●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, December 06, 2021 ●● ● Dec 06 [00:07] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:16] *altlink_f18 (~altlink_f18@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 06 [01:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 06 [06:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 06 [07:07] schestowitz $ cp xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl [07:07] schestowitz-TR SUCCESS [07:07] schestowitz-TR gn [07:07] Techrights-sec 069e3af5e27be6fc2289ccf481b92d335aefa310 [07:19] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/mike34698631/status/1467734707425067013#m [07:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Mike-Gee (@mike34698631): "info on anything you want to research on gates http://techrights.org/billwatch-resurrected/" | nitter ● Dec 06 [08:20] *altlink_f18 has quit (connection closed) [08:20] *altlink_387 (~altlink_387@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:28] schestowitz notes to self (stages) [08:28] schestowitz add links [08:28] schestowitz add uploads -> pi only [08:28] schestowitz add cron hardlink [08:28] schestowitz add to index at gemini [08:28] schestowitz change link in irc blog post? [08:28] schestowitz change link in irc botx4 channels? [08:28] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Connection closed) ● Dec 06 [09:23] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@d3u7abs8yy2fu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:46] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [09:46] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@4cyi8scw8uevw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 06 [11:15] schestowitz https://twitter.com/AnthonieLouise/status/1467805776257458178 [11:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AnthonieLouise: https://t.co/PBKYmcCAKK [11:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #GhislaineMaxwell trial: Key moments from the first week - BBC News https://t.co/6mWxvQjzys #billbc never menti https://t.co/VXSHQ8XcWu [11:18] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 06 [12:23] schestowitz comparing gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.gmi to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.txt in amfora and lagrange, it seems clear that page is rendered based on the file extension, either before agate instructs so or because the clients/browsers detect it so [12:27] schestowitz-TR amfora has a weird timeout behaviour; if the page is long and it does not complete transmission in about 5 seconds, then it suggests downloading. I think that the issue isn't the server being too slow (it is slower now) but the assumptions made by the client. [12:28] Techrights-sec That sounds about right. I see that behavior. I suppose a bug report is in [12:28] Techrights-sec order. [12:28] schestowitz-TR I use v 1.7.2 [12:29] Techrights-sec v1.8.0-82 here [12:30] schestowitz-TR so newer versions still have this behaviour [12:30] schestowitz-TR I suppose they only receive bugs from people with a Microsoft account [12:30] schestowitz-TR I'm told GitHub would get integrated with Azure [12:30] schestowitz-TR so a power play against FOSS and Google/AWS at the same time [12:31] schestowitz-TR btw, yesterday things generally went smoothly, even got lots of exercise done, which helps compensate for Saturday. Seeing the latest from Zemlin I know we've played a major role. [12:33] schestowitz-TR otoh, zemlinWasRight ... social control media is a passing fad, a liability, so he stopped in 2019. going ahead and deleting everything shows the 'RMS factor... bkuhn also went ahead and deleted all his dents one by one years ago [12:34] Techrights-sec But didn't he just hire another microsofter? [12:34] Techrights-sec hopefully it leads to a major trend in the general population to delete [12:34] Techrights-sec their social control media accounts [12:35] schestowitz-TR https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/linkedin_hindi/ [12:35] -altlink_387/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/linkedin_hindi/ [12:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | LinkedIn adds Hindi service to target more Indian users The Register [12:37] schestowitz comparing gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.gmi to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tester.txt in amfora and lagrange, it seems clear that page is rendered based on the file extension, either before agate instructs so or because the clients/browsers detect it so [12:37] schestowitz Waiting on https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801 "The IRS has provided extracted financial data for this filing, but has not yet released the source documents. [12:37] -altlink_387/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801 [12:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-projects.propublica.org | The Linux Foundation - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica [12:37] schestowitz " [12:38] Techrights-sec Hindi is one of the larger languages in India. They must be expanding offices [12:38] Techrights-sec or other activities there in agressio against the country. [12:38] schestowitz That is their MODI operandi [12:39] psydruid Hindi is also one of my native/heritage languages [12:40] psydruid yes, they target Indians a lot for promoting their inferior software and services [12:40] Techrights-sec Last filing listed there is 2019, the 2020 is not yet shown. How long can [12:40] Techrights-sec it retain tax-exempt status with its current behaviors, activities, and hirings? [12:40] Techrights-sec Executive compensation $5,523,526 [12:40] Techrights-sec Linus should take his trademarks and walk. [12:40] psydruid and those are often gullible and receptive for financial reasons [12:40] schestowitz I can imagine [12:41] schestowitz but in the UK it's often the same [12:41] schestowitz maybe they aim differently demographically [12:42] psydruid I see it a lot on Quora, even though that shouldn't be a canonical reference or anything [12:46] Techrights-sec ack ● Dec 06 [13:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 06 [16:17] *altlink_387 has quit (connection closed) [16:17] *altlink_a01 (~altlink_a01@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@q7wcsvubbp35k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 06 [17:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 06 [19:29] Techrights-sec lol just chedked spannil's gulagtube channel [19:29] Techrights-sec it's entertaining to me as it keeps getting worse [19:29] Techrights-sec a [19:29] Techrights-sec a train wreck [19:29] Techrights-sec you see people wasting their time [19:29] Techrights-sec and after 2 weeks they might get 10 viewers [19:29] Techrights-sec never more than 100 [19:29] Techrights-sec I guess LF recommends this to them [19:29] Techrights-sec :/ and the LF feeds him [19:35] schestowitz-TR I still hold him partly acountable for killing linux.com [19:35] schestowitz-TR sheela zemlin knows him [19:35] schestowitz-TR also a poser and career climber [19:35] schestowitz-TR he refers toi himself as "exceptionally well-connected" "filmmakser" [19:36] schestowitz-TR while bottom-feeding Mirosofot and worse [19:36] Techrights-sec yeah I noticed he was a climber the first time I read a little of his writing, [19:36] Techrights-sec back in the Muktware days when he was still partially ok. [19:36] Techrights-sec The Zemlins and all the other microsofters need to leave the LF. [19:36] Techrights-sec There also needs to be a hardcore "dogfooding" requirement for the board [19:36] Techrights-sec and, especially, the executives. [19:36] Techrights-sec [19:37] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfooding [19:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia [19:38] schestowitz-TR spamnil uses a mac and brags about how much that cost [19:38] schestowitz-TR probably sponsored by Machead zemlin [19:50] Techrights-sec Conversely, DT and others brag about using only FOSS operating systems and [19:50] Techrights-sec FOSS tools on those systems. You can do video editing on GNU/Linux [19:50] Techrights-sec just as well as on a Mac. [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-1-software:d [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-2-kdenlive:b [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-1-software:d [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-part-2-kdenlive:b [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-tips-and-tricks:c [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-tips-and-tricks:c [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux Part 1: Software Choices [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-how-to-get-the:a [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-how-to-get-the:a [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux Part 2: Kdenlive Video Editor Reviewed [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: Tips and Tricks to Manage Kdenlives Settings, Files and More. [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: How to Get the Most Out of Kdenlive [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-the-most:6 [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-the-most:6 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: The Most Important Part of a Video [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-5-basic:6 [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/video-editing-with-linux-5-basic:6 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Video Editing with Linux: 5 Basic Techniques You Should Know [19:50] Techrights-sec https://odysee.com/@purism:8/adding-visual-interest-with-effects-and:8 [19:50] -altlink_a01/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/adding-visual-interest-with-effects-and:8 [19:50] Techrights-sec again, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food [19:51] Techrights-sec It'd be like Tim Cook using M$ Windows. Oh wait he apparently does [19:51] Techrights-sec https://www.wired.com/story/how-email-open-tracking-quietly-took-over-the-web/ [19:51] Techrights-sec There was a time when OS X was getting somewhat more open, at least parts [19:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Adding Visual Interest with Effects and Compositions [19:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia [19:51] Techrights-sec of it were. But that ended with Snow Leopard and went very rapidly downhill [19:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wired.com | You Give Up a Lot of Privacy Just Opening Emails. Here's How to Stop It | WIRED [19:51] Techrights-sec after that. There are a bunch of compatibility and security bugs they [19:51] Techrights-sec have not gotten around to fixing and the neglected areas show their [19:51] Techrights-sec agenda. [19:51] schestowitz-TR You beat me to it re Tim Crook and Windows, I was going to correct what you said [19:51] Techrights-sec The audience that spamnil might appeal to is interested only in money [19:51] Techrights-sec and that is their only metric for /anything/ in life. [19:53] Techrights-sec and for those types the greater the monetary expense, the higher they prize it; [19:53] Techrights-sec so they worship inefficiency [19:56] schestowitz-TR yo dawg, I hear you use Windiws, so I welcome you to Linux Foundation [19:57] schestowitz-TR I posted Daily Links, hence, slow to reply, will clean remaining RSS feeds now, leaving all patent "news" until weekends as it pains my eyes to see some much drivel and spam there.. there used to be ACTUAL reporting in that domain [19:58] Techrights-sec :/ probably true [19:58] Techrights-sec news has slowed down /again/ in general. there is almost nothing left soon [19:58] Techrights-sec most material now seems to come from blogs [19:59] schestowitz-TR they do not make up for what was lost and still, in searches, the webspam dominates. things like spamnil and press release, clogging up the spamfarm www became ● Dec 06 [20:02] schestowitz-TR what pains my eyes and mind even more than spam is the misinformation, deliverable lies (disinformation), which replace reporting [20:04] Techrights-sec yes. the one maneuver that is puzzling is the proliferation of far right [20:04] Techrights-sec fake local news sites picking FOSS topics and especially GNU/Linux topics [20:04] Techrights-sec Since those appear to be run top-down, centrally I wonder what's up with that [20:04] Techrights-sec yes that has been going on for years now and was really bad in the last 10, [20:04] Techrights-sec they just parrot stuff uncritically as if that is reporting [20:04] schestowitz-TR it is a lot "cheaper" [20:05] Techrights-sec If someone says its raining and another person says its dry, its not your job to quote them both. Its your [20:05] Techrights-sec job to look out the window and find out which is true.""" [20:05] Techrights-sec ^quote [20:05] schestowitz-TR yes, I put that quote in TR several times, even as an image ;-) [20:05] Techrights-sec from unknown source [20:05] Techrights-sec :) [20:07] schestowitz-TR names that vanished (rianne and I floated some an hour ago) gary newell, matt hartly , katherine noyes (remember?), maybe more that are hard to remember anymore. I think lack of traffic killed their morale and they called it quits, or a lack of salary [20:08] Techrights-sec yes there were others too [20:09] schestowitz-TR better to quit than to become a presstitude, which means disgracing oneself for a few more salaries and then be remembered as a turncoat [20:10] Techrights-sec yes there were others too; ZDNet, Wired, BYTE, Dr Dobb's, and the others [20:10] Techrights-sec all were pro FOSS and had specialized columns and sections on GNU/Linux [20:10] Techrights-sec specifically [20:10] schestowitz-TR so I made a two tiered system [20:10] schestowitz-TR junk and cruft [20:10] schestowitz-TR like ibm/red hat stuff [20:10] schestowitz-TR I go through it very quickly [20:10] schestowitz-TR collecting itsemf [20:10] schestowitz-TR hardly bothering to read them [20:10] schestowitz-TR toss in "leftovers" [20:10] schestowitz-TR and then the few that can still be good [20:10] schestowitz-TR that saves time [20:12] Techrights-sec going through it all is quite a slog; very slow and difficult; [20:12] Techrights-sec It's almost impossible to find something good on purpose. [20:12] schestowitz-TR devop cloud... SAP... alliance, AI/ML something blah blah [20:12] schestowitz-TR can;'yt stand it [20:13] schestowitz-TR basically, the issue is that people who can write better articles sare not writing [20:13] schestowitz-TR they are coding [20:13] schestowitz-TR this leavs a group of nontechs like spamnil to name-drop buzzwords [20:20] Techrights-sec byte had a lot of talented authors who were getting into Linux and GNU/Linux [20:20] Techrights-sec e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Bar_(investor) [20:20] Techrights-sec the excitement was spreading to the other authors but before it took off [20:20] Techrights-sec BYTE got bought out by CMP and shut down. [20:20] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_Magazine [20:20] Techrights-sec 2002 was the end in practice [20:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Moshe Bar (investor) - Wikipedia [20:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Byte (magazine) - Wikipedia ● Dec 06 [22:34] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow) [22:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:53] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)