●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, March 07, 2021 ●● ● Mar 07 [00:01] schestowitz__ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20211255#bf5a9610609c0139376c7085c2fdcc0b [00:01] schestowitz__ " [00:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dr. Richard Stallman is missed by many who perceive him to have been wrongly treated; putting Stallman back in the Board (at the very least) would help the image of the Free Software Foundation http://techrights.org/2021/03/04/re-adding-richard-stallman/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/04/re-adding-richard-stallma [00:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The Free Software Foundation Should Re-add Richard Stallman to the Board | Techrights [00:01] schestowitz__ No RMS should ask for royalties first, then close FSF or sweep the nasty board, with stricts rules of governance^^:)! #GNUSoftwareFoundation ? [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed - a day ago [00:01] schestowitz__ That grant from CCT looks suspicious to me. The FSF is listed as Civil Rights, Social Action & Advocacy in their website. No mention of free software or anything remotely similar. https://www.cctboston.org/ [00:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cctboston.org | Community Consulting Teams | bringing MBA business expertise to Boston area nonprofits [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed - a day ago [00:01] schestowitz__ Looking at what the new FSF president has been saying, Im not sure the people who pushed RMS out arent still there; they are probably the same who pushed out Alex Oliva. [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed - a day ago [00:01] schestowitz__ First public statement by new FSF president Geoffrey Knauth. Obscure coded language specifically crafted to be ambiguous, but not when it comes to minimizing Stallmans role. [00:01] schestowitz__ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/statement-from-fsfs-new-president-geoffrey-knauth [00:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Statement from FSF's new president, Geoffrey Knauth Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [00:01] schestowitz__ herve_02@diasp.org [00:01] schestowitz__ herve_02@diasp.org - a day ago [00:01] schestowitz__ FSF is dead lets forget it. [00:01] schestowitz__ Digit [00:01] schestowitz__ Digit - a day ago [00:01] schestowitz__ im not inclined to succumb to undermining the fsf more because its been undermined some already. thatd play into the hands of proprietary softwares oligarchs plans. it needs further mending, not forsaking, ffs. [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed [00:01] schestowitz__ Derailed - about 21 hours ago [00:01] schestowitz__ The FSF started the process of undermining itself the day it gladly accepted RMS resignation to please those who called for his removal, some of whom couldnt care less about free software, including Neil McGovern from GNOME. Their idea of mending is to keep pleasing those people by canceling RMS from all their public communications and decision making, By contrast, the FSF is totally deaf to the voice of those who call [00:01] schestowitz__ for RMS to be put back where he was, which is the only way the FSF can be saved at this point. [00:01] schestowitz__ Digit [00:01] schestowitz__ Digit - about 20 hours ago [00:01] schestowitz__ how about we each get to be president for a day. [00:01] schestowitz__ herve_02@diasp.org [00:01] schestowitz__ herve_02@diasp.org - about 13 hours ago [00:01] schestowitz__ FSF IS RMS. what he did and what he thinks is the only way to show a possible future for real free software. [00:01] schestowitz__ We must not think that the market or the competitor will be fair, that only the quality could win the war. The war can only be won by politic and, in my opinion, he is the only person I can see to be integrist enought and well known to a max of people to be a lighthouse showing a way to go. [00:01] schestowitz__ free software is under attack every where (microsoft, google, oracle, red hat, ubuntu, linux foundation) and there must be a person well known to show a way. [00:01] schestowitz__ The century coming is the one where economic growth will come from intellectual property, because capitalism face a downward trend in profit rates and the only products that cost peanuts (no raw materials) is IP. SO every thing that show that there is another way of thinking computing as SAS with gafam , that film or music is not only renting each visualisation/earing will be under permanent attack. And the appeasement way [00:01] schestowitz__ of life will cause our death. [00:01] schestowitz__ " [00:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [00:15] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:15] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [00:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 07 [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:51] good morning Roy I'm back up and running ubuntu server still haven't set up IPFS and gemini seems to not resolve after copying files over attack on port 22 are ongoing your account is set up. new port cccccccccccccccccc and pass cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:51] same IP and machine? [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:52] should be [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:52] IPFS account is open same as your pass [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:52] I don't have a grasp of what was changed [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:53] yeah I will check out the IPFS and try to link it all back up [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:54] but your acct I dont know I just copied the contents over minus wget history and Downloads [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:55] I couldn't see in bashrc a path statement either [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:55] IPFS just had the one installed part I will get on that first [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:55] copy across the accounts, with all the files [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:56] that shoukd work assuming arm7 [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:56] uname -a Linux O 5.3.5+ #1 SMP Tue Nov 5 16:13:51 CST 2019 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:57] but there may be something I'm missing [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:57] a vagary between Deb and ubuntu [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:58] see what you think I can go from scratch if you think better [02:32] schestowitz__ [22:59] no rush it's been an interesting morning [02:32] schestowitz__ [23:00] do you have .bash_history from previous homedir? [02:32] schestowitz__ [23:00] yeah i do you want it [02:32] schestowitz__ [23:01] IPFS about to stomp [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] have a go at it [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] tell me if you get stuck [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] done [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] copy files across [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] for gemini no additional software needed [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] copy across file [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:02] then I will set up systemd [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:05] all done just the IPFS install thing I am trying to work it out now [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:13] for ipfs you need to install go, ipfs, then we should be good to go by starting the daemon [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:14] I'll run through your guide again from scratch [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:22] permissions are fubar [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:25] ok, cool [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:25] I am on shift arm [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:25] atm [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:25] cannot talk much [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:26] np I have a heap to work through you work [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:26] your home will have same problem too [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:26] :| [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:34] it'll help you replicate what's there [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:34] but we'll get it done anyway, should not be hard [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:35] you work for now I'll do the IPFS again from scratch [02:33] schestowitz__ [23:35] cheers [02:33] schestowitz__ [00:26] ipfs add ~/tr_text_version/ or go in and ipfs add . [02:33] schestowitz__ [00:29] got it add with -r [02:33] schestowitz__ [00:37] tmux a -t0 its running sweet [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:05] :-) [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:07] that how-to seems different or my understanding has improved a bit [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:07] but i'm pretty stoked [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:08] still haven't looked in your home [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:09] I'm just heading out to the shops catch up after my exercise ;) [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:09] 03/07-12:06:56.086372 [**] [1:402:7] ICMP Destination Unreachable Port Unreachable [**] [Classification: Misc activity] [Priority: 3] {ICMP} 192.168.1.9 -> 192.168.1.8 still going hard [02:33] schestowitz__ [01:19] cool :-) ● Mar 07 [09:09] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [09:27] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 07 [10:46] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Fabio_Lolix/status/1366041757893480450 [10:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Fabio_Lolix: @rjdohnert @LinspireLinux @akai11nj @RobbieFerguson @Category5TV @linuxjournal @tuxmachines @9to5linux @DistroWatch https://t.co/rZHNKE3TD9 [10:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Fabio_Lolix: @rjdohnert @LinspireLinux @akai11nj @RobbieFerguson @Category5TV @linuxjournal @tuxmachines @9to5linux @DistroWatch https://t.co/rZHNKE3TD9 [10:47] schestowitz__ " [10:47] schestowitz__ There is a copy of the agreement in the distro? [10:47] schestowitz__ Arch Linux include it for their packages for which they got redestribution permission [10:47] schestowitz__ " [10:47] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1364786323433934849 [10:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: It looks as if Tux Machines is having some technical problems tonight. @tuxmachines [10:47] schestowitz__ DDOS [10:49] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/chadmccullough/status/1359857351445123080 [10:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chadmccullough: Some more great news coming from @openSUSE. https://t.co/WzhYVDfWvK [10:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: New openSUSE Step Project Looks to Build SUSE Linux Enterprise on More Architectures https://t.co/O6kxstPMP5 ● Mar 07 [11:36] schestowitz__ I am going through the code in git today, is the commit history considered 'safe'? [11:56] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [11:56] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 07 [13:12] Techrights-sec safe in which context [13:12] Techrights-sec It is up to date and as far as I know there have been no usernames or passswords [13:12] Techrights-sec in it, but that is worth an audit. [13:12] schestowitz__ do we want to present it with any sort of webui? I was thinking also of some gemini related projects, seeing there's a vacuum there in tools (sourcehut fills some of those gaps) [13:13] schestowitz__ I was thinking of some gemini UIs or front ends for git [13:15] schestowitz__ gogs is golang, so no go without bloat [13:15] schestowitz__ https://gogs.io/ [13:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gogs.io | Gogs: A painless self-hosted Git service [13:16] schestowitz__ gitea is the same, so golang also [13:16] schestowitz__ https://gogs.io/ [13:16] schestowitz__ https://gitea.io/en-us/ [13:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gitea.io | Gitea [13:21] schestowitz__ so far in my audit I've not managed to find any issues [13:22] schestowitz__ I just wonder, should we add the IRC text format log generator? [13:23] schestowitz__ find | grep xhtml-log-to-text.pl [13:23] schestowitz__ nothing found [13:32] schestowitz__ I've just begun pushing some files too, you can pull to see [13:33] Techrights-sec I guess we could add xhtml-log-to-text.pl in a new directory for IRC [13:33] Techrights-sec I'd like to get a handle on branches before publishing anything though. [13:33] Techrights-sec I've added it to the IRC directory for now [13:34] schestowitz__ some of the ipfs stuff might be worth pushing later, but I need to check it carefully, then the blinkt code [13:36] Techrights-sec I see url.sh has been added. [13:36] Techrights-sec It's complex enough that might be better as perl. [13:36] schestowitz__ If it was redone in Perl, I'd struggle to hack on it to suit my needs :-) [13:37] schestowitz__ It's mean to use handy rather than elegant, as it's likely to be used by one person anyway... [13:37] schestowitz__ *meant [13:41] Techrights-sec One sed instance can have multiple -e options. [13:41] Techrights-sec Also, it would be helpful for readability to stick to https://man.openbsd.org/style [13:41] Techrights-sec when possible [13:41] Techrights-sec It is as good a style guide as any and has a good deal of though and testing [13:41] Techrights-sec behind it. [13:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-man.openbsd.org | style(9) - OpenBSD manual pages [13:42] schestowitz__ I never said that code was pretty. At the moment I check some files. Some are unsafe to share at this point as keys/passwords are contained in them [13:51] schestowitz__ links-latest.sh seems a tad unsafe as it reveals paths and usernames [13:53] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:54] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:54] Techrights-sec which directory is links-latest.sh in? [13:54] schestowitz__ none. it's not worth sharing in its current form, I think [13:56] Techrights-sec yeah it contains an account name [13:56] schestowitz__ I will add some ipfs stuff, but will need to sanitise those a big [13:58] Techrights-sec Ok. I think many of the shell scripts are just site-specific [13:58] Techrights-sec and would be of little to no general use. [13:58] Techrights-sec Once I look at branches in Git we can archive them in a separate branch. [13:58] Techrights-sec But there's no benefit to publishign them, rather maybe some disadvantages. [13:58] schestowitz__ I agree [13:59] schestowitz__ in fact, for ipfs I will push with username included, assuming it does not get published in present form [13:59] schestowitz__ sanitisation can become a maintenance nightmare as versions move up ● Mar 07 [14:00] Techrights-sec I would expect that there is an established best practice documented somewhere [14:00] Techrights-sec for managing identities in Git trees. [14:08] schestowitz__ just pushed some ipfs utils [14:09] Techrights-sec Best not to add them until there is no account info inside them. [14:09] Techrights-sec The history cannot be modified AFAIK [14:09] Techrights-sec That's one of the main reasons why I started a fresh repository. [14:09] schestowitz__ I checked your name does not appear [14:10] Techrights-sec yes, quite a few [14:12] Techrights-sec tc-shaper-v2.sh contains very throttled queues [14:13] schestowitz__ I ran it on the orange pi the other day. When enabled it's very hard to access daily bulletins on gemini, it just times out usually [14:14] schestowitz__ this morning I tidied up the ra-spy a bit, with files shuffled and moved to remove confusion [14:14] Techrights-sec gemini should be prioritized and given more bandwidth in the script [14:15] schestowitz__ can you redo that file and push? I wrongly assumed our PINS for IPFS would be back soon, now I'm not so sure anymore... so ipfs is turned on with the throttling 24/7 [14:17] Techrights-sec 250kbit is way too slow [14:21] Techrights-sec how much bandwidth is the max for that device? [14:22] schestowitz__ the max at home, which is around 8MBits/sec IIRC [14:34] Techrights-sec Ok I've pushed some changes in tc-shaper-v2.sh [14:34] Techrights-sec Can you see if that helps with Gemini vs IPFS? [14:34] Techrights-sec many of the shell scripts in IPFS directory can benefit from HERE documents [14:35] schestowitz__ I've never generalised them or factorised them or anything, though if we do publish some stuff we'll have incentive to [14:37] schestowitz__ git diff 5bdcdaec601e595de41f5814220807f8ce790e77 [14:42] schestowitz__ fantastic, now the capsule is a lot faster and bulletins always load ok [14:44] schestowitz__ I will look into separating out credentials from scripts to make them "Safer" [14:53] schestowitz__ I've taken a look at those two files, they reveal some paths and stuff too, for the time being unsuitable for public eye and very site-specific anyway [14:54] schestowitz__ is fetch_and_cut_video.sh not of general use? [14:54] Techrights-sec Paths are hard to avoid [14:55] schestowitz__ When I wrote all those 'hacks' I never even thought about publishing them, but I suppose transparency isn't a bad thing if presented accordingly (we just want to explain what's done internally, even if it's not of much use) [14:55] Techrights-sec no it is not, AFAIK [14:55] Techrights-sec it turned out not to be of local use either [14:55] Techrights-sec but does document the necessary steps to do it manually [14:56] schestowitz__ We can grin at all those people (cough SPAMnil cough) who put all eggs in the youtube basket [14:56] Techrights-sec but does document the necessary steps to do it manually [14:56] Techrights-sec many vloggrs have complained over the years about 'linux' as a keyword causing [14:56] Techrights-sec videos to get demonitized. [14:57] schestowitz__ chris titus moaned about it last month, he even had to re-upload the video. THis reduces the incentive to even MAKE such videos. [14:58] Techrights-sec I also remember a site called GNUheter which [14:58] Techrights-sec was constantly denied advertising revenue becuase the advertisers refuse [14:58] Techrights-sec refused to accept the traffic was real [14:58] Techrights-sec Titus is far from the only one. [14:58] Techrights-sec Often they win on appeal but by then they are into the long tail and missed [14:58] Techrights-sec the peak viewing and thus the peak advertising. [14:59] schestowitz__ youtube is convenient... until it's suddenly not ● Mar 07 [15:01] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [15:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [15:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:07] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:08] Techrights-sec lbry / odysee are ok for now *but* require login so as to filter out the crap [15:08] Techrights-sec otherwise nothing of use can be found or tracked [15:08] schestowitz__ I created an account there and it looked awful for many reason i can no longer recall [15:09] schestowitz__ blender's peertube instance was very slow [15:09] schestowitz__ Regarding lbry: I created an account there and it looked awful for many reason i can no longer recall [15:31] Techrights-sec It's as awful as Youtube almost, but the first week or so is spent blocking [15:31] Techrights-sec and then it gets better [15:31] schestowitz__ Nobody knows what they will become in the future. "Promises are made to be broken..." [15:32] schestowitz__ btw, some extreme trolling by MG today [15:32] schestowitz__ same tactics as USENET COLA and ACCESS troll... trying to leverage copyright to troll people [15:33] Techrights-sec yes, I conclude that his only reason for showing up is to troll [15:33] Techrights-sec his actions have no merit [15:33] Techrights-sec the only question is who is backing his actions, [15:33] schestowitz__ Sometimes rewards come after the action. "Do X, I will, hire your wife..." [15:34] schestowitz__ re peertube, debian (biggest sponsor google) now backs it, but I experienced slowness with it, put me off it completely [15:45] Techrights-sec lbry and odysee are a bit javascript-intensive, that is a big drawback too [15:45] schestowitz__ it only gets worse over time. Sites very rarely move AWAY from JS. It's an addiction. ● Mar 07 [17:18] *hook54321 has quit (*.net *.split) [17:18] *MinceR has quit (*.net *.split) [17:19] *hook54321 (sid149355@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session) has joined #boycottnovell [17:19] *hook54321 has quit (Changing host) [17:19] *hook54321 (sid149355@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfwiyrsqkdbxcnmo) has joined #boycottnovell [17:19] schestowitz__ > Thanks for message. I realise the www side isn't being abandoned at this [17:19] schestowitz__ > point, but see articles and comments re this could change; I realise [17:19] schestowitz__ > that could be about being excited setting up gemini, but a [17:19] schestowitz__ > gemini-centred structure could be needed in a month, a year, or not at [17:19] schestowitz__ > all ... whichever that is, my health is still the top reason why I must [17:19] schestowitz__ > step away. I can understand that your videos are getting a lot of daily [17:19] schestowitz__ > requests, but I doubt that's about my artwork. I achieved a lot in being [17:19] schestowitz__ > able to do the donated artworks I've done, despite health, so am glad [17:19] schestowitz__ > that's been done, and that the video thumbnails continue to be useful. [17:19] schestowitz__ Gemini will never replace WWW :-) [17:19] schestowitz__ But the idea is, for some purposes it's useful, at the very least for privacy and keeping older computers useful. [17:19] schestowitz__ Thanks for all the great artwork! 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