●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 07, 2022 ●● ● May 07 [00:01] schestowitz-TR [15:35] Blockchain is Dangerous Nonsense //www.eisfunke.com/article/blockchain-technology.html ● May 07 [04:01] *teucer_ has quit (Quit: leaving) ● May 07 [05:47] schestowitz-TR social control media can be very addictive in some sense [05:47] schestowitz-TR I noticed this well before "FOMO" was a thing [05:47] schestowitz-TR back around 2009 and 2010, with identica, I would meticulously go through every "DENT" [05:47] schestowitz-TR that made it through (by bot) into our IRC channel [05:47] schestowitz-TR every single one of them [05:47] schestowitz-TR using the IRC logs [05:47] schestowitz-TR I'd then follow the link and get it "done" [05:47] schestowitz-TR it became my toldo list [05:47] schestowitz-TR based on who I followed, e.g. Glyn Moody [05:47] schestowitz-TR Years later I stopped doing it [05:47] schestowitz-TR That was very time-consuming [05:47] schestowitz-TR That was identica and the results were linear, neutral [05:47] schestowitz-TR the s/n ratio was nopt too bad [05:47] schestowitz-TR of course all those dents have been lost forever since 2013, except maybe [05:47] schestowitz-TR our IRC archive of the odd IA copy (I don't suppose they retain like a million dents) [05:51] Techrights-sec Glyn should has a feed. I'd go out of my way to read the articles [05:51] Techrights-sec he writes, even if I would not otherwise visit some of the sites [05:51] Techrights-sec ^s/has/have/ [05:51] Techrights-sec yes the effort that people put into social control media is largely a waste [05:52] Techrights-sec Independent, threaded discussion forums like SN are another matter. [05:52] Techrights-sec They can be of use. Reddit and HN are not among them. Those are shill [05:52] Techrights-sec sites and Reddit is as least as bad as Twitter, perhaps worse [05:52] Techrights-sec I generally go out of my way to avoid following a link if I see that it [05:52] Techrights-sec goes to Reddit [05:52] schestowitz-TR [21:18] "Communication within the OpenWrt Project One of OpenWrt's (and former LEDE's) goals is that all project-related communication should be done on public channels that are archived and easily browsable." LOL, outsourcing to malicious, lying, propaganda and censorship site Reddit!!! https://openwrt.org/contact?rev=1651790990&do=diff [05:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Communication within the OpenWrt Project [05:54] schestowitz-TR coming soon: Bill gates Ask Me ANything PREFILTERED, about how people yell at me in the streets -- people who [05:54] schestowitz-TR are conspiracy cranks and wannabe murderers... and how I'm really sorry about meeting a person who [05:54] schestowitz-TR gives access to little girls... not everyone who does this can just "apologise" his way out [05:56] Techrights-sec yep they prefilter it so he gets only softball questions [05:56] Techrights-sec I suppose they are overdue for another such session of reputation laundering [05:57] schestowitz-TR remember they ewmployed Microsoft Peter for a decade [05:57] schestowitz-TR they develop a reputation and names for them [05:57] schestowitz-TR that will chase them for years [05:59] Techrights-sec yep ● May 07 [06:00] Techrights-sec though they do what they can to brush that under the rug [06:01] Techrights-sec not just were but still are doing that [06:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 07 [07:08] schestowitz-TR Conde Nast (of Reddit etc.): we not only employ pedophiles who shill for Microsoft (and get arrested for raping ki [07:08] schestowitz-TR ds), for a whole decade. We also do white-washing for billionaires who are Jeffrey Epstein enablers. I suppose Redd [07:08] schestowitz-TR it and Ars have no qualms about promoting paedophiles while censoring those who speak on the subject. [07:08] schestowitz-TR bbl [07:08] Techrights-sec ack [07:32] schestowitz-TR I've nopticed 2 issues [07:32] schestowitz-TR 1) the git commnand periodically run does not show me when there are new commits for me to pull [07:32] schestowitz-TR except the ones I push myself [07:32] schestowitz-TR 2) the add-irc-line fails to work, I'm still investigating the cause [07:32] schestowitz-TR OK, re (2), you are running the code that adds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag] [07:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | [tag - Search results - Wikipedia [07:32] schestowitz-TR at your end [07:32] schestowitz-TR so that's the issue [07:32] schestowitz-TR (I add those at my end before posting Daily Links) [07:39] schestowitz-TR I've nopticed 2 issues [07:39] schestowitz-TR 1) the git commnand periodically run does not show me when there are new commits for me to pull [07:39] schestowitz-TR except the ones I push myself [07:39] schestowitz-TR 2) the add-irc-line fails to work, I'm still investigating the cause [07:39] schestowitz-TR OK, re (2), you are running the code that adds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag] [07:39] schestowitz-TR at your end [07:39] schestowitz-TR so that's the issue [07:39] schestowitz-TR (I add those at my end before posting Daily Links) [07:39] schestowitz-TR re (1), I added a pull before the usual command, then pushed the changes [07:39] schestowitz-TR [07:36] Based on Statcounter, Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edge, Jan to May: 4.12, 4.06, 4.05, 4.05, and 4.04% [07:41] Techrights-sec the addition of tags is accidental, as mentioned I am a novice with Git [07:41] Techrights-sec and only just starting with it [07:41] Techrights-sec the 'git commit; git push' are the two basic commands and if there [07:41] Techrights-sec are tags added, it is git itself [07:41] Techrights-sec git is really good and from what I read has the functionality that [07:41] Techrights-sec is actually needed but the workflow / UI is terrible [07:42] schestowitz-TR same here, though I was good at cvs and svn [07:42] schestowitz-TR these things are like waves that com and go [07:42] schestowitz-TR something will replace git [07:42] schestowitz-TR wedon't know what yet [07:42] schestowitz-TR (it won't be github, gh is waning slowly) [07:42] schestowitz-TR No, I meant you added http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=[tag] at your end in combined html file [07:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | [tag - Search results - Wikipedia [07:42] schestowitz-TR those tags should not be added until the end, from my end [07:42] Techrights-sec checking... [07:42] Techrights-sec I see. [07:44] schestowitz-TR B0ng [sic] and Edge are so insignificant that any mere mention of themn, IMHO, would be [07:44] schestowitz-TR 'advertising'... I checked the share because some stupid site did a howo on how to [07:44] schestowitz-TR install it in "Linux"... I've not seen such misguided howtos in a while [07:44] Techrights-sec yes they should not be advertised [07:46] Techrights-sec re-uploaded merged links [07:47] schestowitz-TR thanks, fetching [07:47] schestowitz-TR haha 2,200 lines at my expand after expansion [07:47] schestowitz-TR I think an all-time high ;-) [07:47] schestowitz-TR good [07:47] schestowitz-TR I'lll have a crack at it now, accommodating tuxmachines [07:48] Techrights-sec nice [07:48] Techrights-sec only 49 links added manually. that is the high end of average [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-01.html:40 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-02.html:19 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-03.html:75 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-04.html:66 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-05.html:53 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-06.html:55 [07:48] Techrights-sec 2022-05-07.html:49 [07:52] schestowitz-TR there is a leftover "]" [07:52] schestowitz-TR after
[07:52] schestowitz-TR not sure why, but this one I will remove manually this time at my end [07:52] schestowitz-TR I am guesing something in the code at you end had this small bug [07:52] schestowitz-TR but either way, for today's file the fix was simple, with search and replace [07:52] Techrights-sec ok [07:52] Techrights-sec $ grep -c http ../m2022-04/2022-04-??.html | awk -F : '{a=a+$2} END {print a/NR}' [07:52] Techrights-sec 45.5667 [07:52] Techrights-sec probably; I had to re-clone Git yesterday ● May 07 [08:00] schestowitz-TR I deleted Windows! And switched to Fedora gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/blog-2022-05-06-I-deleted-Windows-and-switched-to-Fedora.gmi [08:01] schestowitz-TR to see what I mean about "[" (or "]" rather) you can open the merged file at your end, [08:01] schestowitz-TR also see [Old] ]" [08:02] Techrights-sec Yes what's strange is that the sed formula was balanced, I double-checked [08:02] Techrights-sec it [08:02] Techrights-sec I should have checked the output before uploading though [08:03] schestowitz-TR i fixed it for today, I'm apace now [08:03] schestowitz-TR I really enjoyed some EPO comments today [08:03] schestowitz-TR I posted loads in the main channel [08:03] Techrights-sec ack [08:03] Techrights-sec DFC [08:03] Techrights-sec 's channe? [08:04] schestowitz-TR heh. yes. though matey has been getting dominant there too, which I don't mind [08:04] schestowitz-TR I don't spend much time there lately [08:04] Techrights-sec as long as the off-topic rants, misdirection, and lies are minimized all [08:04] Techrights-sec around [08:16] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/ [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:47] Techrights-sec I wonder how unsustaibable the business model of youtube is, [08:47] Techrights-sec bandwidth costs always and so does storage and while the bandwidth will [08:47] Techrights-sec presumably fluctuate in proportion to the ads shown the storage cossts [08:47] Techrights-sec only rise [08:52] schestowitz-TR good topic [08:52] schestowitz-TR I have wondered about it since 2006 [08:52] schestowitz-TR let's break it down [08:52] schestowitz-TR expenses: [08:52] schestowitz-TR 1) staff [08:52] schestowitz-TR 2) equipment in DC [08:52] schestowitz-TR 3) network (upstream+more hardware) [08:52] schestowitz-TR 4) replication, see (2) and more of (1) [08:52] schestowitz-TR 5) moderation and enforcement, see (1) [08:52] schestowitz-TR sources of income [08:52] schestowitz-TR 1) ads [08:52] schestowitz-TR and I think that's it? [08:52] schestowitz-TR (mind you, over time storage costs go down, but electricity is getting more expensive [08:52] schestowitz-TR and over time gulag needs to store more and more data. If traffic decreasesd, the cost/benefit [08:52] schestowitz-TR equation changes as the ad revenue does not keep up with operation costs) [08:52] schestowitz-TR I forgot to mention among expenses the payouts (before!) to so-called 'creators' [08:52] schestowitz-TR When Ton from Blender rejected GitHub he said it had been ioperating at a loss [08:52] schestowitz-TR and riving VCs' money, hence he knew they would turn the tables one day [08:52] schestowitz-TR same for me with gulagtube [08:52] schestowitz-TR for techbytes we always self-hosted, gulag has a few copies, but that was all [08:52] schestowitz-TR gulagtube and gulagdrive are just more "professional" faces on Mega/MegaUpload [08:54] Techrights-sec I wonder how unsustaibable the business model of youtube is, [08:54] Techrights-sec bandwidth costs always and so does storage and while the bandwidth will [08:54] Techrights-sec presumably fluctuate in proportion to the ads shown the storage cossts [08:54] Techrights-sec only rise [08:54] Techrights-sec afaik [08:54] Techrights-sec ah there is also a "premium" for 7 USD / month [08:54] schestowitz-TR did you not send me a URL about gulagtube shutting down some "premium" thing (not Red)? [08:54] schestowitz-TR Or was it for Twitter or similar (like blue and that new openwash thing, pretending it's not centralised)? [08:56] Techrights-sec [08:56] Techrights-sec nut no clue if anyone anywhere has ever signed up for that [08:56] Techrights-sec yes but those payouts are probably small when considered in context [08:56] Techrights-sec "YouTube also earns revenue from Channel Memberships, YouTube TV, Super Chats, Super Stickers, Super Thanks & Merch [08:56] Techrights-sec andise. " [08:56] Techrights-sec https://whatisthebusinessmodelof.com/business-models/youtube-business-model/ [08:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-whatisthebusinessmodelof.com | YouTube Business Model: How YouTube Makes Money [08:56] Techrights-sec But that can't account for much [08:56] Techrights-sec there are probably also kickbacks or whatever for surveillance but not [08:56] Techrights-sec mentioned explicitly [08:56] Techrights-sec I still can't figure out how Mega differed from the other services [08:56] Techrights-sec aside from not being fully onboard with surveillance (probably) [08:59] schestowitz-TR they say mega was not serious about enforcement or moderation re copyrights [08:59] schestowitz-TR or turned a blind eye [08:59] schestowitz-TR megaupload more so [08:59] schestowitz-TR which sounds plausible, but the task does not scale well [08:59] schestowitz-TR and I don't see evidence of Box or Gulag doing any better in tharhat regardl [08:59] schestowitz-TR when you are small it\'s common to claim you are infested with "nazis" (parler) [08:59] schestowitz-TR or "piracy" (MegaUpload) [08:59] schestowitz-TR though figures are hard to verify with [08:59] Techrights-sec yet youtube was allowed to grow; I wonder the relative size of youtube [08:59] Techrights-sec at the time it was bought by Google compared to Mega ● May 07 [09:00] schestowitz-TR Mega or MegaUpload? Mind you, the latter is dead and the former rather dodgy [09:01] schestowitz-TR they also eliminated many "unused" accounts to lower operational costs [09:01] schestowitz-TR 10 years ago rianne and I uploaded backups of photos to mega [09:02] Techrights-sec yes I sometimes wonder why youtube does not purge content to save space [09:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:04] schestowitz-TR it does delete it [09:04] schestowitz-TR I also had this theory I tested last month [09:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:04] schestowitz-TR about proximity/cdn [09:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:04] schestowitz-TR and how old and barely watched videoe don't get distributed far [09:04] schestowitz-TR like Wayback Machine being slow [09:04] schestowitz-TR they even added ads to my old videos [09:04] schestowitz-TR that are old howtos [09:04] schestowitz-TR can you remind me what link you send re shutdown of "premium" plan? was it gulagtube? [09:04] schestowitz-TR I think we're about to see a major avalanche there... [09:05] Techrights-sec I think the wayback machien is slow on purpose in self-defense [09:05] Techrights-sec I'm not sure I recall, looking anyway ... [09:05] Techrights-sec https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2022/01/19/youtube-to-shut-down-originals-programme/ [09:05] Techrights-sec ?? [09:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.digitaltveurope.com | YouTube to shut down Originals programme Digital TV Europe [09:08] schestowitz-TR no, it has to be newer, days old, maybe under surveillance or astroturfing [09:09] schestowitz-TR it was not youtube red or twitter "blue" [09:09] schestowitz-TR or cnn's drm experiment [09:09] schestowitz-TR drm has a new name, "+" [09:09] schestowitz-TR ABCD+ [09:09] schestowitz-TR it's hard to teach people to start paying for something [09:09] schestowitz-TR 1) they used to get for free [09:09] schestowitz-TR 2) they can still get for free elsewhere [09:10] Techrights-sec https://www.gamingbible.co.uk/news/netflix-responds-to-drop-in-subscribers-by-cancelling-more-projects-20220422 [09:10] Techrights-sec ?? [09:10] Techrights-sec https://www.theverge.com/23043232/cnn-plus-axios-chat-shut-down-streaming-news [09:10] Techrights-sec ?? [09:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gamingbible.co.uk | Netflix Responds To Drop In Subscribers By Cancelling Even More Projects [09:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | This chart might explain why CNN Plus shut down early - The Verge [09:18] schestowitz-TR checking... [09:18] schestowitz-TR not sure it's critical, but.... [09:18] schestowitz-TR actually, I might end up ina rabbithole, checking a week's worth of Daily Links [09:18] schestowitz-TR the point being, never mind what exactly it was (maybe I didn't even get that from "merged"), [09:18] schestowitz-TR all those upselling programmes are failing [09:18] schestowitz-TR Bryant when he was still "The Linux Gamer" made fun of Twitter Blue [09:18] schestowitz-TR or maybe it was someone else [09:18] schestowitz-TR there is usually no value to these things other than perceived prestiage [09:18] schestowitz-TR like the blue "Mussk-Certified" tick [09:18] schestowitz-TR the very fact those programmes keep coming back show that the biz model is not workng [09:18] schestowitz-TR when twitter OMENTARILY made profits it was the time it was clobbering away at the userbase [09:18] schestowitz-TR doing things that royally pissed off their users [09:18] schestowitz-TR like killing their "apps" of choice [09:18] schestowitz-TR and then the traffic was never the same anymore [09:18] schestowitz-TR and even with ads evewrywhere Twitter ended up swinging back into losses [09:18] schestowitz-TR the "peak profit" era was the "period of transition by CASHING IN on what's left" [09:18] schestowitz-TR (which I am happy about BTW; they can shoot their own feet, riding people's pension [09:18] schestowitz-TR funds via Wall Street bubbles and spculative high-interest "schemes") [09:18] schestowitz-TR the new Twitter owner has another momentary business model, like scamcoin and other [09:18] schestowitz-TR schemes [09:18] schestowitz-TR now it's the 'honeymoon period', he hasn't turned his knobs yet, [09:18] schestowitz-TR but clues show that "free speech" means "some accounts are no longer gratis" [09:18] schestowitz-TR won't be freee OR free.... [09:18] schestowitz-TR but he'll get a ton of attgention (brand) each time he moves the knobs [09:19] Techrights-sec ack [09:19] Techrights-sec I'm not so sure the business model is for twitter as much as it involves [09:19] Techrights-sec twitter [09:19] Techrights-sec yes, knobs will be turned after the 6-month grace period passes [09:19] Techrights-sec the attention is part of the business model but it won't necessarily [09:19] Techrights-sec bring in money to twitter itself, just to musk [09:22] schestowitz-TR likme omidyar with his pet "media" projects [09:22] schestowitz-TR rappler, the intercept etc. [09:22] schestowitz-TR he gains personally, but not from the sites [09:22] schestowitz-TR BTW, he did shut down the snowden leaks investigation team not too long after [09:22] schestowitz-TR 'buying' it [09:22] schestowitz-TR and greenwald ended up ... up in arms [09:22] schestowitz-TR I rarely see that site anymore, but I'm sure it's still active [09:22] schestowitz-TR it even employed a fraud arrested for plotting terrorism... as a writer [09:22] schestowitz-TR I forgot his name [09:22] schestowitz-TR burning sources did not help omidyar's name, either [09:22] schestowitz-TR not one but several, and mostly due to severe cases of incompoetence [09:22] schestowitz-TR among his staff [09:22] schestowitz-TR I wonder if Lee (Micah) still works there, I very much doubt it [09:23] Techrights-sec greenwald appears as a say-for-pay crank who accidentally rose to fame [09:23] Techrights-sec because snowden accidentally picked him as a news contact; midyar shut down [09:23] Techrights-sec the snowden archive and basically vanished the topicfrom the mainstream [09:23] Techrights-sec even scheier has not only shut up but also began to toe the line [09:23] Techrights-sec burning sources IMHO was one of his goals [09:23] Techrights-sec to sow fear and distrust among potential whistleblowers [09:23] Techrights-sec note how none have really surfaced since reality winner was [09:23] Techrights-sec railroaded [09:26] schestowitz-TR true, I never thought of that as a theory, but there was one firm [09:26] schestowitz-TR advertising itself to whistleblower with expensive [09:26] schestowitz-TR ads in large media [09:26] schestowitz-TR and later it turned out, in court docs, that it had been an fbi informane [09:26] schestowitz-TR Mark Said et al IIRC [09:26] schestowitz-TR I used to fight with them, back when Wikileaks was still in good shape [09:26] schestowitz-TR and jess Raddack along with Thomas Drake wwere prominent in Twitter [09:26] schestowitz-TR Twitter became a divisive polatrity machine after that [09:27] Techrights-sec ack [09:27] Techrights-sec yes though with social control media the polarization is in part one means [09:27] Techrights-sec to drive "engagement" [09:28] schestowitz-TR as a side perk, it helps divert attention away from important nonpartisan stuff [09:28] schestowitz-TR such as wikileaks [09:28] schestowitz-TR twitter did its best to polarise these things [09:28] Techrights-sec yes [09:28] schestowitz-TR if not wings then "Russia" and other red herrings [09:36] schestowitz-TR hang in there a few more years when lots more of the media and "social" media has given up [09:36] schestowitz-TR I wonder what this will mean to www and whether things like gemini can maintain the same growth [09:36] schestowitz-TR but people will still be talking and reading (maybe emojis), so hard to tell... as more regimes [09:36] schestowitz-TR go to war and struggle to borrow more capital [09:36] schestowitz-TR my guess is, rather than try to control the media directly there will be more oppression [09:36] schestowitz-TR like outright shutting sites down or censoring them en masse [09:36] schestowitz-TR CA system is a hopping point towards mass censorship [09:36] schestowitz-TR they can start with "nazi" and "pirate" sites "unworthy of SSL certs" in the CA "trust cartel" [09:36] schestowitz-TR then they will justify the same for lesser and lesser sites [09:36] schestowitz-TR but they are still building the fences [09:36] schestowitz-TR which each release of browsers, inc. Mozilla, the nag become worse [09:36] schestowitz-TR then they remove the bypass buttonsa [09:36] schestowitz-TR and later they can just outright block, mozilla even has an option for that now! [09:36] schestowitz-TR Bakerville. [09:36] Techrights-sec one of the changes that the social control media landscape causes is [09:36] Techrights-sec a balkanization of society such that there are no common issues to even [09:36] Techrights-sec debate; futhermore there is the degradation of knowledge and competency [09:36] Techrights-sec such that opininos are given equal valence to empirical facts and the [09:36] Techrights-sec latter are disparaged [09:39] schestowitz-TR yes, but let's keep separate this issue for the sake of compartmentaliaation [09:39] schestowitz-TR a friend of vigivegan said that sites with no membership in the SSL CA 'cartel' are the [09:39] schestowitz-TR "new dark web" [09:39] schestowitz-TR maybe that's the vision they have [09:39] schestowitz-TR no cert = "might ne nazi" [09:39] schestowitz-TR hence, block [09:39] schestowitz-TR first browser [09:39] schestowitz-TR maybe later ISP [09:39] schestowitz-TR it's like Orban with his "media or site registration" scheme [09:39] schestowitz-TR which earned him much notoriety about a decade back [09:39] schestowitz-TR MinceR: is Orban still doing this? [09:39] Techrights-sec could be. there is certainly an effort to marginalize those outside [09:39] Techrights-sec the certificate cartel. That goes *also* for various programing libraries. [09:42] schestowitz-TR we need to teach people to manage their own code [09:42] schestowitz-TR "discoverability" is massively overrated [09:42] schestowitz-TR like being "discovered" in gulagtube or Twitter [09:42] schestowitz-TR tell that to TODAY's used in both [09:42] schestowitz-TR Gulag has given up on them completely [09:42] schestowitz-TR and Twitter is not even used that much [09:42] schestowitz-TR shithub is one of many now, like skype 5-10 years after the criminals [09:42] schestowitz-TR bought the darn thing [09:42] schestowitz-TR With love from Sweden/Estonia/Lux to NSA/Microsoft... [09:42] schestowitz-TR Made in Europe, made to work for USA, Inc. [09:42] Techrights-sec it affect IoT badly too [09:43] schestowitz-TR what is iot? [09:43] schestowitz-TR what do you mean by iot? [09:43] schestowitz-TR badly -made devices with some low-quality integration thrown on top of them [09:43] schestowitz-TR using code "discovered" in Micrrosoft's NSAHub? [09:44] Techrights-sec yep [09:44] Techrights-sec more specifically it prevents or inhibits creation of reasonably secure [09:44] Techrights-sec networked embedded devices [09:45] schestowitz-TR what is iot? [09:45] schestowitz-TR what do you mean by iot? [09:45] schestowitz-TR badly -made devices with some low-quality integration thrown on top of them [09:45] schestowitz-TR using code "discovered" in Micrrosoft's NSAHub? [09:46] schestowitz-TR Microsoft/NSA (github CSO is from NSA) can actively promote projects with known holes in them [09:46] schestowitz-TR as long as only NSA knows of the hole [09:46] schestowitz-TR maybe even because it put them there several years back [09:46] schestowitz-TR they can poison the "supply chain" with Microsoft as the middleman [09:46] Techrights-sec "bugdoors" [09:48] schestowitz-TR but one has to be careful floating such an hypothesis withouit any concrete evidence [09:48] schestowitz-TR to avoid being labeled a crank [09:48] schestowitz-TR same for the theories about GitHub Actions [09:48] schestowitz-TR being the outsourcing of the build system [09:48] schestowitz-TR so who the heck knows what that generates or will generate [09:49] schestowitz-TR they control not jujst "supply chain" [09:49] schestowitz-TR but also buiold process [09:49] schestowitz-TR in the clown [09:49] schestowitz-TR "BUT IT IS FREE!!!!" [09:50] schestowitz-TR a) so what if we use github, it's still our free software [09:50] schestowitz-TR b) so what if Microsoft took over? [09:50] schestowitz-TR c) so what is security is managed by NSA now? [09:51] schestowitz-TR d) so what if they can edit our code, we can check how they 'fix' it [09:51] schestowitz-TR 3) so what if the build process isn't controlled by us? [09:51] schestowitz-TR f) I've no arguments left, but trust me, our free software it totally safe! STOP BEING MICROSOT HATER! [09:51] Techrights-sec yes ad hominem works well when it is heavily funded [09:55] schestowitz-TR reats-like-we-have-never-seen/ | Source: Counter Punch [09:55] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Nuclear Threats Like We Have Never Seen - CounterPunch.org [09:55] schestowitz-TR --> immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:55] schestowitz-TR [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D581.jpg [09:55] schestowitz-TR [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D224.jpg [09:55] schestowitz-TR wrong paste [09:55] schestowitz-TR "I think I link being miserable, bitter and cynical to being a good person, which is not healthy" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [09:55] schestowitz-TR "upper-middle-class work is insane. you have finance (get paid to play the slots and steal from people), consulting (get paid to take the blame for other people's problems) and big tech (manifest the absolute worst ideas anyone has come up with)." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [09:56] schestowitz-TR "On Tuesday I lost all hearing in my left ear over the course of three hours. I had that otherwise common, ephemeral tinnitus that one sometimes experiences for 3-4 seconds. I had an unusual number of bouts, and they started lasting progressively longer. Then hearing just never returned." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/928 ● May 07 [10:08] schestowitz-TR https://truthout.org/articles/trump-encouraged-elon-musk-to-buy-twitter-truth-social-ceo-devin-nunes-says/ [10:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Trump Encouraged Elon Musk to Buy Twitter, Truth Social CEO Devin Nunes Says [10:09] schestowitz-TR Book Banning on the Rise in the US https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ | Source: Project Censored [10:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ ) [10:14] Techrights-sec yes bookbanning and other censorship is on the rise and the maneuvering [10:14] Techrights-sec in that direction has been prepared for years; the term "free speech" [10:14] Techrights-sec is a dog whistle in some groups and code word which they agitate and [10:14] Techrights-sec fight against [10:14] Techrights-sec and twitter and the other social control media have been part of that [10:14] Techrights-sec reframing of the term [10:14] Techrights-sec https://www.quora.com/When-did-free-speech-become-a-dog-whistle-term-for-hate-speech [10:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-When did free speech become a dog-whistle term for hate speech? - Quora [10:15] schestowitz-TR "ahte speech" itself is a dangerous label [10:15] schestowitz-TR but you already know that [10:16] schestowitz-TR a) a lot of hate is legitimate [10:16] schestowitz-TR b) the label is poorly defined [10:16] schestowitz-TR c) the enforcement is done by those who deserve to be hated [10:22] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:23] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:23] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:24] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [10:24] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [10:33] schestowitz can you still see what I wrote before my other machine died? [10:33] schestowitz what happens when the machine dies? (I am still trying to bypass that HDMI PITA) [10:34] schestowitz did you say something in that other session? [10:34] schestowitz It looks insistent on starting a new session [10:34] schestowitz instead of joining an orphaned one [10:36] schestowitz sec:" [10:36] schestowitz yes the word in English is becoming on par with "pravda" as people [10:36] schestowitz move further and further away from empirical facts [10:36] schestowitz https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/truthiness-meaning-word-origin [10:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is 'Truthiness'? | Slang Definition of Truthiness | Merriam-Webster | Merriam-Webster [10:36] schestowitz https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17FOB-onlanguage-t.html [10:36] schestowitz nonot sure but you had two ytalk sessions going and two tmux sessions [10:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Truthiness - The New York Times [10:36] schestowitz going [10:36] schestowitz make sure that it is something like this: [10:36] schestowitz tmux attach-session -t whatever || tmux new-session -s whatever ytalk [10:36] schestowitz " [10:49] schestowitz "no -c needed " [10:55] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:55] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-l9usa8.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:59] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [10:59] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [10:59] *libertybox has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [10:59] *Techrights-sec has quit (connection closed) [10:59] *Techrights-sec has quit (Connection closed) ● May 07 [11:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4azthyqfbpik6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:09] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:09] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:09] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [11:10] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:10] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-fq26md.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:11] schestowitz brb [11:11] schestowitz do not say anything for now [11:12] schestowitz I think I found the culrpit [11:12] schestowitz it's the hdmi cable [11:12] schestowitz rianne had similar issues with this cable last yhear, we blamed laptop or screen [11:12] schestowitz brb [11:12] schestowitz "ack" [11:19] schestowitz-TR HDMI remains an engima to me [11:19] schestowitz-TR all those stupid cables [11:19] schestowitz-TR and the random swap-around [11:19] schestowitz-TR apropos, I plugged in an external USB storage drive [11:19] schestowitz-TR 300 GB [11:19] schestowitz-TR from around 2005 [11:19] schestowitz-TR no computer would be able to mount it [11:19] schestowitz-TR so you can learn something about age of magnetic disks [11:19] schestowitz-TR I've not connected it since maybe 2013 [11:26] schestowitz-TR to over-compensate for this misery I plan to work on my desk setup today [11:26] schestowitz-TR any small improvement counts, over time... [11:26] schestowitz-TR what I lost before the incident was, [11:26] schestowitz-TR I said that just like "hate speech" the word "truth" got a bit of a bad connotation [11:26] schestowitz-TR and that using the work, unlike facts or science, can have a bit of baggage or burden [11:26] schestowitz-TR but I do not know it that started around 9/11/2001 [11:26] schestowitz-TR as I had been a teenager prior to it [11:26] schestowitz-TR and did not read political literature [11:26] schestowitz-TR the web was still just a decade old [11:33] Techrights-sec ack [11:33] Techrights-sec it was two links about the definition of truthines neologism [11:35] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:40] schestowitz-TR I think I am going to use that old hard drive as a hard prop, to hold up a screen [11:40] schestowitz-TR sad when recycle means use electronics as a rough propr [11:41] schestowitz-TR because they're poorly made [11:41] schestowitz-TR not meant to last [11:50] Techrights-sec it was two links about the definition of truthines neologism [11:50] Techrights-sec https://www.quora.com/When-did-free-speech-become-a-dog-whistle-term-for-hate-speech [11:50] Techrights-sec it might not be a good idea to put physical stress on the device if [11:50] Techrights-sec it is till in use at all [11:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-When did free speech become a dog-whistle term for hate speech? - Quora [11:51] schestowitz-TR no, the point is, [11:51] schestowitz-TR that machine cannot be mounted [11:51] schestowitz-TR it's almost 20 years old [11:51] schestowitz-TR and short of forenstic tools I doubt much data can be taken off it [11:51] schestowitz-TR it's already backed up fully yo a bigger drive iirc [11:51] schestowitz-TR 10 times the capacity [11:52] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [11:53] Techrights-sec if it has been taken out of use then don't worry [11:53] schestowitz-TR right now I try to over-compensate [11:53] schestowitz-TR (psych trick) [11:53] schestowitz-TR for the loss of productivity [11:53] schestowitz-TR moreover knowing that starting a new sesison gives a chance to rearrange [11:53] schestowitz-TR more so if I shuffle hardware around [11:53] schestowitz-TR which I have to be very careful with [11:53] schestowitz-TR sometimes I break or tear things in ther process, which means moire time wasted ● May 07 [12:07] Techrights-sec ack [12:39] schestowitz-TR it is an opti'm problem [12:39] schestowitz-TR reusing some VERY old gear [12:39] schestowitz-TR 20+ years [12:39] schestowitz-TR rianne uses 3 mqachines atm [12:39] schestowitz-TR shwe is on shift [12:39] schestowitz-TR now I am closer to the window and doing exercise while reading should be a tad simpler [12:39] Techrights-sec ack [12:39] Techrights-sec treadmill? [12:39] schestowitz-TR no, shotput ball inside a pillow case [12:42] Techrights-sec doing TR and TM backup ATM [12:42] Techrights-sec no [12:42] Techrights-sec , that was the last line [12:42] schestowitz-TR did I miss something when session reset? [12:42] schestowitz-TR last I saw was treadmill [12:51] Techrights-sec rupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated [12:53] Techrights-sec wordpressdatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated [12:54] schestowitz-TR I guess my test scripts do not work correctly then [12:54] schestowitz-TR you can see the empty file ~/dump-integrity-check.log and the cronjob that is supposed to send such output to it ● May 07 [13:01] Techrights-sec yes that file is empty [13:02] Techrights-sec $ gzip -t drupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gz [13:02] Techrights-sec gzip: drupaldatabase-20220506.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated [13:02] Techrights-sec the gzipped dump is no good on TR as well [13:02] schestowitz-TR I think I can see the issue now [13:09] Techrights-sec which script? [13:09] Techrights-sec fetch-tm-dump.sh ? [13:09] Techrights-sec there is no redirect in that script, gzip works directly on the file. [13:09] Techrights-sec perhaps that is the problem? [13:09] Techrights-sec ^symptom [13:09] Techrights-sec checking [13:09] schestowitz-TR OK, I think the issue is [13:09] schestowitz-TR running guznip and using >> to a file [13:10] schestowitz-TR the i/o which reports an error does not go to the file [13:10] schestowitz-TR maybe need some number there? [13:10] schestowitz-TR ~ [13:10] schestowitz-TR the file is ~/bin/get_dbs.sh [13:10] schestowitz-TR there are 3 places there where it sends output to a file [13:10] schestowitz-TR there is a similar thing in the TM remote backup script [13:13] Techrights-sec same there, gzip works directly on the file [13:13] Techrights-sec i'm going to try re-running get_dbs.sh manually [13:13] schestowitz-TR thanks, this way you can see i/o [13:16] Techrights-sec although it was yesterday's which failed and today's is ok [13:16] schestowitz-TR based on a test that I did, the error message from gunzip shows up in the command line [13:16] schestowitz-TR but does not go to the file based on my test [13:16] schestowitz-TR so I did the output-to-file thing wrong [13:23] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:28] Techrights-sec ack [13:30] schestowitz-TR it is possible that it was always a mistake to do in-place gzip? [13:30] schestowitz-TR doesn't seem to have caused issues until jan 6th 2022? [13:30] schestowitz-TR I think 1>2 or something like that would let me see the status of the gz [13:30] schestowitz-TR but that in itself would not solve the issue, just highlight it when it happens [13:30] schestowitz-TR (/me finished shuffling things around, a lot better now!) [13:30] Techrights-sec [13:30] Techrights-sec ack [13:30] Techrights-sec perhaps but I have no idea about what is causing the symptoms [13:31] schestowitz-TR can you see my mistake, like why >> log file [13:31] schestowitz-TR would not send the output I get when running the same interactively from the CLI? [13:35] Techrights-sec the error message probably goes to stderr so I've added a redirection [13:35] Techrights-sec for both lines [13:41] schestowitz-TR in tmux I set up a small pane that notifies us when there is a bad gz [13:41] schestowitz-TR I see three lines, for 3 gz files, I will add the missing one [13:41] schestowitz-TR done [13:41] schestowitz-TR the missing one was in wiki dump [13:41] schestowitz-TR should it be 2>&1 [13:41] schestowitz-TR or the other way around? [13:41] schestowitz-TR because in TM backup scripts it's used the other way around [13:42] schestowitz-TR see tmux middle pane right now... [13:48] Techrights-sec ack [13:48] Techrights-sec it should be 2>&1 [13:49] Techrights-sec ok, so we have identified a years-old bug along the way [13:49] Techrights-sec (I think) [13:49] Techrights-sec or maybe those other lines are OK [13:49] schestowitz-TR ok, so we have identified a years-old bug along the way [13:49] schestowitz-TR (I think) [13:49] schestowitz-TR or maybe those other lines are OK [13:49] Techrights-sec probably ● May 07 [14:06] schestowitz-TR Sites like propublica, which take bribes from Bill Gates, have two reasons not to cover his crimes but to cover them up. 1) they might put at risk future money from the criminal. 2) by writing on the issue people might be led to point out the bribes, taking the scandal public So the bribes are hush money or PR money (BillPR/NPR and BillBC). [14:15] Techrights-sec ack [14:43] MinceR 07 103918 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: is Orban still doing this? [14:43] MinceR i'm not sure what happened to that ● May 07 [15:02] *Despatche_ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:02] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [15:25] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 07 [16:45] Techrights-sec https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ [16:45] Techrights-sec https://futurism.com/the-byte/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-bad-idea [16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ ) [16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-futurism.com | Bill Gates Says It Was a Bad Idea to Pal Around With Jeffrey Epstein [16:55] Techrights-sec BillG won't make a comeback [16:55] Techrights-sec people will fire back [16:55] Techrights-sec re GulagTube Go, yes... that's the one I had in mind [16:55] Techrights-sec GO-LAG-GO [16:55] Techrights-sec ack [16:56] schestowitz-TR BillG won't make a comeback [16:56] schestowitz-TR people will fire back [16:56] schestowitz-TR re GulagTube Go, yes... that's the one I had in mind [16:56] schestowitz-TR GO-LAG-GO [16:56] Techrights-sec ack [16:58] schestowitz-TR with billg, unlike rms, he cannot claim that it was all false [16:58] schestowitz-TR ratger, he admits that he lied [16:58] schestowitz-TR what's more, the media keeps pulishing this, reminding people or telling peopple [16:58] schestowitz-TR that he was close to epstein [16:58] schestowitz-TR not all of them even know about it [16:58] schestowitz-TR so I don't think his strategy can ever work [16:58] Techrights-sec yes but it looks like they do that to softpedal his involvement in [16:58] Techrights-sec Epstein's activities; There's been very little coverage of the money [16:58] Techrights-sec part too. [16:59] schestowitz-TR then people start searcjing the Web [16:59] schestowitz-TR maybe part of that is just periodically googlebombing [16:59] schestowitz-TR but again, I doubt this will work [16:59] Techrights-sec it looks like googlebombing [16:59] schestowitz-TR plus namecalling ● May 07 [17:00] Techrights-sec they may also be trying to wear out the public's attention span [17:09] schestowitz-TR my dad sent me 2 links about this [17:09] schestowitz-TR two, separarelt [17:09] schestowitz-TR he was livid [17:09] schestowitz-TR he also says people he knew strongly dislike Gates [17:09] schestowitz-TR it does not take an opinion poll [17:09] schestowitz-TR that's definitely a new thing [17:10] Techrights-sec before his long and expensive campaing for reputatino laundering he [17:10] Techrights-sec was one of the most hated people in industry [17:14] schestowitz-TR OK, finished daily links [17:14] schestowitz-TR rss left, lots of stuff piling us there [17:14] schestowitz-TR had 2+ hours of nap [17:14] schestowitz-TR I did successfully overcompensate for thgat hdmi+crash issue [17:14] Techrights-sec ack [17:14] schestowitz-TR the setup here is a lot better now [17:14] schestowitz-TR so I can say "maybe for the better..." [17:14] schestowitz-TR I had too small a space for moving the mouse [17:14] schestowitz-TR also, I improved the water/coffee isolation (from equipment) [17:14] schestowitz-TR I still have 2 birthday balloons here [17:14] schestowitz-TR if you can think of topic idea, that would help [17:14] schestowitz-TR my goal will be to clean all feeds except patents [17:14] schestowitz-TR adn then focus on patents tomorrow [17:18] Techrights-sec i had some the other day but cannot recall, do you keep a list of possible [17:18] Techrights-sec ideas? [17:21] schestowitz-TR usually a mental list if not concrete [17:21] schestowitz-TR if concrete I sump a link [17:21] schestowitz-TR sometimes I yarn for ideas and then regret not writing them down [17:21] schestowitz-TR this morning I mention to you Edge market share [17:21] schestowitz-TR it was a remote idea of something to ADDD to something ELSE [17:21] schestowitz-TR as a BY THE WAY [17:21] schestowitz-TR as I do not wish to mention that BRAND [17:21] schestowitz-TR but it might help to show that [17:21] schestowitz-TR 4% is no majore threat [17:21] schestowitz-TR I am still adjusting here, had extra sleep [17:21] schestowitz-TR rianne dealt today with a client she hates [17:21] schestowitz-TR on thurs. we'll see what best suits us [17:21] schestowitz-TR even food discounts might be at risk [17:21] schestowitz-TR my dad says I'm super-lucky to have such an easy job from home [17:21] schestowitz-TR and gets upset if I tell him I might leave [17:39] *Despatche__ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:39] *Despatche_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:53] Techrights-sec is net neutrality a relevant topic? [17:53] Techrights-sec what about this push to deploy or pretend to deploy FIDO everywhere? [17:53] Techrights-sec aside from the surveillance and gatekeeping factor, there is a question [17:53] Techrights-sec (on my part) about standard-critical software patents. [17:54] schestowitz-TR i do not know FIDO well enough [17:54] schestowitz-TR I know what it is about [17:54] schestowitz-TR 2FA is antoehr problem [17:55] Techrights-sec Yes it is one aspect of 2FA but it can be deployed in a way that weakens [17:55] Techrights-sec security or leaves it the same, likewise it can be deployed in a way that [17:55] Techrights-sec causes problems for privacy and can introduce single point of failure risks [17:56] Techrights-sec https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/outage-disrupts-microsoft-services/ [17:56] Techrights-sec old [17:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Outage disrupts Microsoft services - CNET ● May 07 [18:18] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [18:19] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:22] Techrights-sec https://www.information-age.com/microsoft-in-passport-climb-down-285266/ [18:22] Techrights-sec old [18:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.information-age.com | Microsoft in Passport climb down - Information Age [18:58] *Despatche__ has quit (connection closed) [18:58] *Despatche__ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 07 [19:02] schestowitz-TR Imposing Microsoft junk on Gemini protocol? gemini://gemini.marmaladefoo.com/blog/ [19:03] SomeH4x0r congratulations, you were noticed [19:03] SomeH4x0r a few decades pass, and you will be saying "kill Gemini" [19:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9cw3zp2d57yhq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:04] SomeH4x0r any big attempts to fix the evil system will be infiltrated by their agents which you won't notice [19:04] SomeH4x0r then these attempts will be converted to the same evil [19:05] SomeH4x0r I have no hope [19:09] Techrights-sec ack [19:09] Techrights-sec which part of "Luke's Gemlog" ? [19:09] Techrights-sec eww "SmolNetSharp ..." [19:13] schestowitz-TR China intends to transfer state institutions and state-owned enterprises to Linux and PCs of local manufacturers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164572#comment-33571 [19:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | China Orders Government, State Firms to Dump Foreign PCs | Tux Machines [19:13] schestowitz-TR one way or another, we're getting our way [19:13] schestowitz-TR not without challenge [19:13] schestowitz-TR but we'll get there [19:13] schestowitz-TR and get co-opted [19:14] Techrights-sec the good part is that the latest entry is from years ago so it looks [19:14] Techrights-sec abandoned [19:20] schestowitz-TR Small-Scale Fab: Make Parts with Free/Open Source Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164582 [19:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Small-Scale Fab: Make Parts with Free/Open Source Software | Tux Machines [19:30] Techrights-sec ack [19:31] schestowitz-TR ergonomics improved a lot here today, also mobility of a laptop habitually used for 'gym' [19:31] schestowitz-TR I wish I had done that sooner [19:31] schestowitz-TR I had a good excuse to pause and work on this [19:31] Techrights-sec great [19:37] Techrights-sec ergonomics are very important very quickly and bad ergonomics can [19:37] Techrights-sec very suddenly become a severe problem and take ages to correct / repair [19:39] schestowitz-TR getting up and back down fast is helpful [19:39] schestowitz-TR also distance from the lamp when doing exercise [19:39] schestowitz-TR like I said at noon, it's a never-ending optimisation problem [19:39] schestowitz-TR in the old place I recheed near optimum but then ran out of space when [19:39] schestowitz-TR adding another PC [19:39] schestowitz-TR so I relocated [19:39] schestowitz-TR now I'm next to two doors that open up to the sun [19:39] Techrights-sec nice [19:39] Techrights-sec though sun is hard with computer screens due to low contrast, so continual [19:39] Techrights-sec adjustment through the day is necessary [19:40] schestowitz-TR the sun was a bigger problem at the old place because it was direct (face, screens, or both) [19:41] Techrights-sec ack [19:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:55] schestowitz-TR I've shut the door, but cannot record about FIDO as I think I have a weak grasp on the pertinent issue [19:55] schestowitz-TR maybe a textual rebuttal would be better, provided pounters other than the aofrementioned ones [19:55] Techrights-sec I wonder if the whole 2FA / FIDO / OAUTH thing has been vetted against [19:55] Techrights-sec submarine patents [19:56] schestowitz-TR i see posts about swpats a lot (in weekends this year) and havent not seen many of this kind, in suit, [19:56] schestowitz-TR just some allusions to security [19:56] schestowitz-TR but I think with FIDO it's better to focus on control rather than the patebt aspects [19:56] schestowitz-TR cui bono? [19:58] schestowitz-TR I thought about doing some video about the (now 2) coverage from Daniel about Debian using the [19:58] schestowitz-TR trademark for overt censorship [19:58] schestowitz-TR the TM person in Debian has just resigned [19:58] schestowitz-TR (FIDO is a little outside my ballpark, we covered it before quoting a secuirty enthusiast) [19:59] Techrights-sec yes that is very interesting too especially what they are trying to [19:59] Techrights-sec hide through trademark enforcement ● May 07 [20:01] schestowitz-TR I covered the Fedora case [20:01] schestowitz-TR This one is similar to it [20:01] schestowitz-TR Though I suspect the motivations are a bit different [20:01] schestowitz-TR I'll wait and see what happens... [20:01] schestowitz-TR "A large sum of money from Debian funds is now paying for Jonathan Cohen, a lawyer at Charles Fussell & Co LLP, to purse a [20:01] schestowitz-TR SLAPP lawsuit and try to shut down the Debian Community News and the Uncensored Debian Planet web sites." https://fsfellows [20:01] schestowitz-TR hip.news/charles-fussell-jonathan-cohen-debian-slapp-microsite-resignations/ [20:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: fsfellows; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://fsfellows ) [20:02] Techrights-sec can ties or parallels be discussed, that would be a topic as well [20:02] Techrights-sec unfortunate, I figure those uses of the trademark are valid since they [20:02] Techrights-sec are used to talk /about/ debian and identify it. [20:04] schestowitz-TR this is an ongoing tory (2 parts in 3 days), so i can wait, add more parts as comments in TM [20:04] schestowitz-TR and then go through them one by one [20:04] schestowitz-TR I will have no struggle or qualm explaining those [20:04] schestowitz-TR as I myself had experience with SLAPP [20:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@dt8efu6nsd6nk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 07 [22:07] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)