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| schestowitz-TR | my judgment is not clouded by the fact that I left is; social control media had waned even before that, not sure how many years | Jun 07 07:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | or maybe just months. I reckon in a few years many of us will sort of forget it ever existed, and we won't care about | Jun 07 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | some past "tweets"; Trumo's have not existed for 16 months already, maybe 18 months | Jun 07 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | figosdev said the same about fediverse and diaspora yesterday in IRC | Jun 07 07:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point it did matter a bit | Jun 07 07:54 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 07:54 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I presume your meeting will be online during normal working hours? | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | today is my last shift until AFTER an important meeting where decisions might be almost finalised | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be nice to go back to 2 or, at most, 3 nights per week | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 nights in a row, than 5 free | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the way it was 2011-2013 | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | savings are nice, but we only live once (sans all the "transhumanism" crap) | Jun 07 08:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I presume your meeting will be online during normal working hours? | Jun 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, we will be paid for the time too, they say... | Jun 07 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | this represents an issue only to those who depend on the job to pay some obscene rents | Jun 07 08:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | moving away completely would be risky, so limiting to the extent that is reasonable is something I wanted to do | Jun 07 08:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | for years. This year we thought about leaving completely, rianne is still checking all sorts of things | Jun 07 08:05 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 08:11 |
| Techrights-sec | it pays to plan carefully, I would think | Jun 07 08:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've always planned ahead carefully ans asked around, more than most people do | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. when I reached important forks on the road, like when I had a London job offer but also phd offers | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | academa became disgusting in recent decades for a lot of reasons (not what the media likes to focus on) | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so parking there in 2022 isn't the same as in 1952 | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I suspect "digital vegan" can tell you a lot more than I can | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he does not need to as you were there too | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the next appalling hase might be, lecturers need to wear uniform with logos of the companies that | Jun 07 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "support" their labs and fund the "research" (marketing) | Jun 07 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec | yes academia has been set on its head, it should return to leading advancement | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | rather than serving as a funder for incubators and startups or say-for-pay | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | consulting | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Universities have allowed M$ to abuse the funding situation for ovef a decade | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | now. They throw some chump change at a desperate department in exchange for | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | 1) deploying m$ products and excluding useful technology, 2) slapping the | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | name "Microsoft Research" onto the resulting journal articles. | Jun 07 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Their research is merely rebranded marketing. It's similar to ~ 20 years | Jun 07 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec | ago when the SEC filings showed that their largest line item in the budget | Jun 07 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec | was marketing. The world laughed and M$ shuffled the money around while only | Jun 07 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec | doubling down on the stupidity. | Jun 07 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec | Looking at PDFs generated by the USDA, which appear quite broken if one | Jun 07 09:52 |
| Techrights-sec | actually needs to print. The culprit seems to be that false PDFs are generated | Jun 07 09:52 |
| Techrights-sec | by Aspose.Pdf for .NET 8.4.0 and M$ Word | Jun 07 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can imagine USDA is parly in the pockets of Epstein's secret best buddy | Jun 07 09:53 |
| Techrights-sec | I exxpect so. People are fooled by tacking a .pdf onto the file name, it's not | Jun 07 10:10 |
| Techrights-sec | a PDF and does not work with normal printers. However, it is /still/ for the | Jun 07 10:10 |
| Techrights-sec | time being possible to convert to PostScript and send that and get a viable | Jun 07 10:10 |
| Techrights-sec | result most of the time. | Jun 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | how do we calssify this | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how do we best tackle it? | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (serious question) | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | we might need to make an invesntory of issues, group the, then put together strategy | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and get others to go along | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would work if we can get enough people working along the same lines | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, i am increasingly convinced jperlow fell on his sword | Jun 07 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe our criticism played a role | Jun 07 10:40 |
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| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure about how to tackle government corruption, society just seems to | Jun 07 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | accept it as a neccessary reality. | Jun 07 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | you told me Louis Rozemann (pardom spelling) is being gaslit by gulagtube already | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, it is his primary presence online | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like getting the carpet pulled from undernatgh your feet | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil's videos got so poor (low number of views) that he's putting his whole account at risk | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | (as I type this just read the link about gulag havign to pay a small fortune for defamation in gulagtube | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a toxic asset of sorts... they want to play "safe") | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | YouTube "communityt guidlines" = ever-changing CoC. If you don't accept the changes, you are locked out. | Jun 07 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | implied "consent" | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure about how to tackle government corruption, society just seems to | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | accept it as a neccessary reality. It's probably a combination of both | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | incompetence *and* malice on the part of M$ but inside the USDA is is probably | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | a combination of corruption, malicee, *and* negligence. | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | Louis Rossmann just did a video covering US government corruption and the | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | fact that the structure of the voting process entrenches it. | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f | Jun 07 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f ) | Jun 07 11:00 | |
| Techrights-sec | s/implied/forced/ | Jun 07 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | See the "Schrems II" case on that | Jun 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, this is where I borrowed the term from, or rather it was inspired by some url to that effect | Jun 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are many examples of this in society | Jun 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like me "consenting" to cctv in the food store | Jun 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | by virtue of entering it | Jun 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is somne small sign near the door, I think | Jun 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could reject that and starve | Jun 07 11:05 |
| Techrights-sec | old, but ongoing: https://noyb.eu/en/project/forced-consent-dpas-austria-belgium-france-germany-and-ireland | Jun 07 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Forced Consent (DPAs in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Ireland) | noyb.eu | Jun 07 11:09 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it is a form of hostage dilemma | Jun 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | without me even spying what the hostage is ("friends", data, access to employment etc.) | Jun 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I called it slavery it would ruffle some feathers | Jun 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | note to self | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people and families drowned in 2000 | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then 2008 | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | then corona!kraine!whatsNext | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they then blame the workers | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I really loathe this "great resignation" BS | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see many companies announcing layoffs | Jun 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many people leaving in droves | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the media is owned by those who do the layoffs | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some of them use "reisgnation" canard to push "skill shortage" | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | code word for outsourcing or cost-cutting | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we're in for profound change, not that we've seen none these past 2 years | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2008 my dad lost all his money | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | it finished him | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | some managed to get past that point but are barely surviving now | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence my dad was apprehensive when my sister told (snitched) him about my plans | Jun 07 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | some siblings work like horses, way beyond 40hours/week | Jun 07 11:18 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it was around that time I even started sending my dad money each money, which he appreciated | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | even his cousin helped him | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and helped my grandpa | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was just a warm-up compared to 2019-[not finished] | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the underlying issues of 2008 were never tackled AT ALL | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | OWS got crushed | Jun 07 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we're meant to embrace temporarily amnesia | Jun 07 11:21 |
| Techrights-sec | nor were the underlying issues from 2000- Although the dotcom bubble burst | Jun 07 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | the main conditions underneath were never addressed even after Enron | Jun 07 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | The economic collapse has been built up all that time rather than mitigated | Jun 07 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | so when things can no longer be propped up and the public is no longer fooled | Jun 07 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | by fraud and misdirection, it will fall down -- hard | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are 2 things: | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) skills | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) savings | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | with (a) you can replenish (b) | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is when you resort to drugs and self-neglect | Jun 07 11:23 |
| Techrights-sec | I figure there is more control over inflation that what is let on and that | Jun 07 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec | it is grown at this point to ensure that even those who have saved lose their | Jun 07 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec | money and will dance to the music. | Jun 07 11:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the salaries have not grown proportionally (at EPO, 'public' sector, 0% while inflation is 12%) | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so that in effetc means severe pay cuts | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they can 'race down the yuan' | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and find a way to make out pay equitable in the "lucrative" parts of mainland china | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | (even china is outsourcing to cheap labourers abroad) | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so iow, to make up for capital deficits the renumerations are altered and with enough crises (nobody talks about | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mortgage crisis; just those "external" ones) they can manufacture consent | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | "blame china/nature" "blame russia" next they will blame lazy/spoiled "great resignation" workjers | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but never wall street and london speculators | Jun 07 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | watch out for this: like in the "developing" (exploited) "world" (nations), parents will increasingly view their | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | as providers ore insurance policies | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it used to be the opp., esp. with inheritance being a clocked jackpot | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but pensions are not keeping up with expenditure | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this will cause a lot of misery | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that subconsciously this is why my dad all along opposed me reducing my hours and why he taught the "others" | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to work above and beyond (to stand out) | Jun 07 11:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | [personal: mom told me last week she might soon put the house on sale to free up some cash at hand; she lost a lot | Jun 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to "the market"] | Jun 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "developing" "world" 1972: have kids, they can help you with the farm/business | Jun 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "depeloped" nations 1972: kids are expensive | Jun 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "developing" "world" 2022: don't have kids, wheat is expensive, russia uses it as "weapon" (billBC this week) | Jun 07 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "depeloped" nations 2022: maybe have some kids, they can shelter you when you are out of work or retired | Jun 07 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Jun 07 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: ^^ | Jun 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | about your mom | Jun 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's mom took a second job just now, as rent is hiked by about 50% | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the new job pays like 3 times less | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | oops | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not rianne's | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | RYAN'S | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | US has a long tradition of working several jobs to make ends meet | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | his mom must be about 60 | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also bilked her out of her pension | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | (the church) | Jun 07 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I assume she is a nurse in something connected to the church in IN | Jun 07 11:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, a Catholic retirement home. | Jun 07 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | The workers' wages are trimmed to keep the workers broken and desperate and | Jun 07 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | thus compliant and without time to organize or push back. It also distracts | Jun 07 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | from the destination for the money: the pockets of a very few executives and | Jun 07 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | a handful of "investors". | Jun 07 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Now she's trying to retire and draw the pension while still working part time like they said she could and they're getting squirrely about whether they'll actually allow it. | Jun 07 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:42 |
| Techrights-sec | the Catholic Church is a large political entity with a lot of money; the | Jun 07 11:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Mormon "Church" is even worse. | Jun 07 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | They don't actually want her there and it's because she's been around so long she costs them about $9 an hour more than some nurse they get fresh out of school. | Jun 07 11:42 |
| Techrights-sec | One of the reasons for Northern Europe, Scandinavia in particular, taking | Jun 07 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | part in the Reformation so quickly was the ability to confiscate the | Jun 07 11:43 |
| Techrights-sec | holdings which were on par or exceeding those of the monarchy. | Jun 07 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | They've had a lot of incompetent and embezzling administrators. | Jun 07 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Now they take it out on the people who actually work. | Jun 07 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Her ex husband worked there and hurt his back away from the job and then claimed it was a workplace accident to get them to pay for his back surgery. | Jun 07 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | He went to lift a television and went "OWWWWW!". | Jun 07 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | They couldn't prove where the accident happened so he got away with doing that. | Jun 07 11:45 |
| Techrights-sec | These were | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | then reapportioned internally to both buy domestic alliances and externally | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | to finance endless wars. The pushback against the wars and against the | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | lack of transparency and accountability came in 1776 when the power shifted | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | and the parties which had been locked out and kept in the dark wrote | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | freedom of infromation into the Swedish constitution. However, since the late | Jun 07 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | With all of those idiots they had managing the place, that was a drop in the bucket I guess. | Jun 07 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | 1990 privatization has been a way to circumvent that constitutional obligation. | Jun 07 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | He didn't admit that until years later. | Jun 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | He was always buying junk. schestowitz-TR I mean, not like a Bose radio. If he did buy a Bose radio he'd get one that didn't work and say "I'll fix that." and then sit it somewhere and never fix it, and it wouldn't even be a side project that ever got done, and he'd pay $200 for it. | Jun 07 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's how he did her with things like that rusted out old lawnmower he paid almost $300 for and then it sat there and kept rusting. | Jun 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | While their gas is being turned off. | Jun 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Water, car insurance... | Jun 07 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | If any group claiming to be a religion crosses the line and becomes active in | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | national politics they should have their status revoked and be treated | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | as a political movement instead, that applies to both Catholocism and islamism | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | anyway speaking of status as a religion this is too much of a digression from | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | the spread of microsoftianism within the US public sector. That crap just does | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | not work, yet even in the face of it not working, insiders still keep deploying | Jun 07 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | it. | Jun 07 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that, over time, there will be fewer such deployments and "clown" is Micrsofot's attempt to also own, | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | control, and tame what's not its own | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | then corrupt officials into buying "clown" | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and pay rents to Microsoft | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | for things that Microsoft is still attacking, not just with patents | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Amazon exploits these differently, as does Gulag | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gulag and Amazon and Microsoft... exploiting differently | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Apple also quite differently | Jun 07 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | because their main "products" and "services" or "cash cows" are not the same | Jun 07 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, if you can actually fix things and are handy and buy things cheap, then sometimes it's worth going for. | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | things do not last long anymore | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | IME | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still getting worse | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | people want to buy cheap | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they make it cheap | Jun 07 11:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | with the worst possible components | Jun 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | this means | Jun 07 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | But getting a rusty lawnmower that doesn't work and needs a new engine and new blades and an evening being sanded down and repainted, and you pay 65% of what a new riding lawnmower costs.... Then never fix it. | Jun 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) repairs cost more than new | Jun 07 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | That's just stupid. | Jun 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) they don't last long | Jun 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, you're racing towards industry of 'disposabl;es' | Jun 07 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I refuse to buy any more electric kettles | Jun 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | you buy even a decent brand and it lasts one year | Jun 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't fancy feeling like I'm 'renting' a kettle on an annual basis | Jun 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | If he got it for 10% of what a new one costs and an engine rebuild kit, and some paint and sandpaper and new blades and ended up with one that ran okay and cost him 35% of a new one, that would have been a deal. | Jun 07 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wasting like 100+ dollars every 5 years | Jun 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | He had boxes from ebay showing up with chains in them. | Jun 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Then he threw the chains in a corner and never took them out of the box. | Jun 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> I don't fancy feeling like I'm 'renting' a kettle on an annual basis | Jun 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | You can heat water in a microwave. | Jun 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use the hob now | Jun 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | "stove" in US | Jun 07 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it took me time to get used to it | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. the timer on the hob | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and how many mins for what amount and level | Jun 07 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I used a whistling stovetop kettle for years. | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | electric showers the same | Jun 07 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | How many minutes? | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | ours broke down less than a year after moving in | Jun 07 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | It whistles when the water is ready! | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I replaced that with the boiler | Jun 07 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don 't repair the electric shower | Jun 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they want to sell the same unit again | Jun 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | with all the same components, which could instead be reused | Jun 07 11:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fitting needs an electrician | Jun 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, if the landlord had any sense he'd just pony up the dough and get a tankless water heater for the building. | Jun 07 11:59 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's a one time expense and no cost to store a ton of hot water in a tank that sits there and rusts out and needs flushing. | Jun 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | If you get a traditional water heater, you need to wrap it in one hell of an insulation blanket. | Jun 07 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | And don't cheap out on it. | Jun 07 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | You can get your cost of running it down by 40-50% by wrapping it with a good water heater blanket. | Jun 07 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | But many people don't do that and then bitch about their electric or gas bills. | Jun 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | more modern boilers can heat up water "on demand" | Jun 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and reach temps like 50 degrees | Jun 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | depending on initial temp and rate of flow | Jun 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I grew up we'd have to heat up the whole boiler hours in advance | Jun 07 12:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it could "run out" of hot water | Jun 07 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | If there was something I could do to my car for $40 that doubled the gas mileage, I would! | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | here we have undeerground gas pipes | Jun 07 12:02 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 12:02 |
| Techrights-sec | did you have time to check the short Rossmann video above? | Jun 07 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Rossman video? | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not even clicked on it, many links today | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | slow news in RSS, but it's good to have that compansated for | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll check the video now | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: yes | Jun 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | , hang on | Jun 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't see the link. | Jun 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | About "developed" countries.... | Jun 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "A word on why exposing corruption doesn't matter" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f | Jun 07 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | A word on why exposing corruption doesn't matter | Jun 07 12:03 | |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jun 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's code for "stopped growing a long time ago. Termite infested economy.". | Jun 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | "Here's a queen that does nothing to wave at football." | Jun 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | Here's Boris with a bill to arrest homeless and throw "boat people" back in the Channel. | Jun 07 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The Right to Repair laws at the state level concern these companies because they'll have to design products that comply with all of them or start being unable to sell into certain states for certain reasons based on certain parts of certain bills. | Jun 07 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | They want a very weak federal law that stops states from doing something better. | Jun 07 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | Like the CAN-SPAM Act. | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | watching now (btw, falkon struggles with lbry) | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so another thing not to like about this oddball protocol | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) it used to work OK | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) sometimes it works, sometimes now | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not, I use librewolf | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | he speaks of "reddit" | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a good place to read | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | it makes my blood boil sometimes | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of their social engineering | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "token dissent" -digital vegan | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, that reminds me of epo | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | write 5000 articles exposing corruption | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "crickets" | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | at&t lobbyists | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | corporate money | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like epo | Jun 07 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | i like his mention of identity politics (epo uses perception of "unity" or "EU!") and spontaneous, unedited webcam | Jun 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | "Hochul said the purchase of body armor will be banned, except for those in law enforcement or in professions that could put them in danger." | Jun 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | Body armor isn't restricted in most states. | Jun 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | People can just buy it there and take it to New York. | Jun 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is a uniquely us issue | Jun 07 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | [09:07] <techrights-news> "Motor vehicle traffic deaths 40,698; All firearm death 45,222" ☛ https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm | Jun 07 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cdc.gov | FastStats - Injuries | Jun 07 12:14 | |
| DaemonFC | You can wear body armor in Illinois, but if you wear it while you're committing a crime, it's another offense. | Jun 07 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Crime being violent crime where you're wearing it so that the police have a harder time shooting you. | Jun 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | “To … all those drunk with power who think that they will challenge these laws,” James said. “The Second Amendment is not absolute.” | Jun 07 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they're passing more laws when their biggest one, the one against the right to conceal and carry, is about to be struck down in a month or two. | Jun 07 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | The rest are going to go. | Jun 07 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be able to enforce them for months, maybe. | Jun 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | millions in us have these fantasies | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | or delusions of grandeur | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | wherein they take on the gov. | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | with fifles | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then "take over" or somthing | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | like some armed militia would be an improvement over what exists now | Jun 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is why the us gov. STILL has some consent from most of the people | Jun 07 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | who view it as "lesser evil" | Jun 07 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and oppose insurrection | Jun 07 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec: I've put the top500 link you sent under "Science" as I saw no connection to patent and assumed human error | Jun 07 12:25 |
| Techrights-sec | reddit is a disinformation / propaganda medium | Jun 07 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec | controlled by microsofters to prevent and discourage ICT growth | Jun 07 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks that was an error | Jun 07 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if rossmann explained how he chooses topic | Jun 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | some linus vloggers mentioned "reddi" x-/ | Jun 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid repetition you always need to chase topics | Jun 07 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and ones you cannot address in one sentence | Jun 07 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec | the illusion of topics is deceptive, since the microsofters there quickly | Jun 07 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | suppress any off-message discussion. | Jun 07 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am kicking myself trying to recall what it is that last night I thought, "i could respond to this" before | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | accepting that one "Ed" comment can cover it all, no need for a video | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but there are always things like these | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they come and go | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it really does not matter what it was (that I forgot) | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I already responded to it in text | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and later rejected the idea of it meriting a video | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm GLAD to know that Rossmann is being suppresse in gulagtube, if only just the schafufrunde or | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | however that's spelled (I'll never remember) | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | youtube is good for shit videos or fart videos | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not literally | Jun 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are not too controversial | Jun 07 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not but I am relieved that he is aware of it though at the moment he | Jun 07 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | might not be aware of how widespread it is and how it is used to manipulate | Jun 07 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | and steer public opinion | Jun 07 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps but LBRY won't last long IMO | Jun 07 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | Whether or not they think that the US Supreme Court is "drunk with power", it does tell New York what its laws are. | Jun 07 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty much the only thing these new laws will do is cost money to defend and get struck down. | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | heh. lbry ALREADY vanished | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and became not a site | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but protocoll | Jun 07 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Illinois FOID Act is on borrowed time. | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, due to some sec probe | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | at first I thought it was about the decentrlised nature | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | later I realised it's because they recruit "creators" on the condition of inflating | Jun 07 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | their 'crypto'scam | Jun 07 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Wait for the Supreme Court decision on Conceal and Carry. If they say it's a right that doesn't require a permit, what does Illinois do? | Jun 07 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | Back down. | Jun 07 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | And crime won't go up if they do that. | Jun 07 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | The people who shouldn't have them and don't have a permit just buy them and carry them anyway. | Jun 07 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | And if they get arrested for it, it's because that's on top of the million other things they have a record for since they turned 18. | Jun 07 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | LBRY is the protocol | Jun 07 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | anyway I have my doubts about its technical viability in the long run | Jun 07 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | the scam is the main payload the videos are just there as a loss leader | Jun 07 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | cryptocurrency as it exists to day is a scam and at the same time an egregious | Jun 07 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | waste of electicity and CPU time | Jun 07 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | This is why gun laws don't work. "You murdered some people and we're sending you to prison, but you violated the conceal and carry law so here's 2 years on top of the life sentence.". | Jun 07 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | The law only scares people who don't want to be in trouble for ANYTHING, like me. | Jun 07 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | It does nothing to scare people who are like, you know, in trouble whenever they're out of jail briefly anyway and go "Fuck you pig! Blam blam blam!" with the gun that the law said they couldn't have. | Jun 07 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | It's like restraining orders. People get them and it's an absolute joke. | Jun 07 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | "I believe this person is going to kill me. Please serve them with a document that enrages them and tells them everywhere I'll be so they'll commit a misdemeanor when they come to kill me." | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | videeos are expensive to stgore and deliver | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the more popular they become, the more expensive | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | i keep good backups of all the raws and finals | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are not too expensive to store on multiple devices | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but atm I rely on the generocity of kaniini | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have a rough estimate of hosting w/ TB-level BW | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cost is very high | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not yet found a SOLID topic for video | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "THIS IS FINE!" | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't have patreon | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne always jokes about larabel, | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | being mandated to keep up to some quotas | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | which she says she does not have in tuxmachines | Jun 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | she has been spending dozens of hours per week researching recipes | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and experimenting a lot in the kitchen | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | is doing OK, about 50 nodes per day, despite "slow" news | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got more creative | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: the law does not protect | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | from those who don't obey the law | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like CCTV does not prevent crime | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it might help convict the per | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | IF you catch the person | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | IFa | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then prevent repetition | Jun 07 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like people who want to break the law have any self-control whatsoever. | Jun 07 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | If they did, they'd take basic measures to not be caught. | Jun 07 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | galvinised society has no respect | Jun 07 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | Or figure out some way to do the same awful thing, but which is entirely legal. | Jun 07 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | This country is so screwed up that even when you can tell the police "The bad guys are right THERE!" more than half the time they don't do anything about it. | Jun 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Yes, the gun lobby and weapons manufacturers fuel the violence with easily available assault-style weapons" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/06/hedges-americas-gun-fetish/ | <techrights-news> "Yes, the gun lobby and weapons manufacturers fuel the violence with easily available assault-style weapons" ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/06/hedges-americas-gun-fetish/ | Source: ScheerpostSource: Scheerpost | Jun 07 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hedges: America’s Gun Fetish – scheerpost.com | Jun 07 12:41 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no "easy fix" or longterm solution to the video conumdrum | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | videos are big | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are expensive | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | MSM used to be partly done on taxpayer payroll | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | to create a sense of national unity | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I do not oppose | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is, billg et al buying the media | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | even when taxpayers still pay for it | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with or without ads or brainwash for revenue/justification | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | my uncle in FL still sends me small videos over email | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | hollywood economics have been failing in recent years | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | hardly any "big budget" films | Jun 07 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they too should ask for "defense" bailout | Jun 07 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | Traditional reporting was more or less fact-based and politically neutral. | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | national unity is an admirable purpose if done impartially and based on | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | empirical observable facts | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe are divested from reality so unlike in decades past were people disagreed | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | on interpretation of the facts there is no common base on which to even found | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | a dialog since one or more parties are detatched from reality. | Jun 07 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Films mostly suck since 1999 or so, when Hollywood started kowtowing to CCP | Jun 07 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Now you have Fox and CNN, and CNN is stuck talking about Trump every day. | Jun 07 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Like, the same stories every day reworded a little about something that happened 2-3 years ago. | Jun 07 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | THey really want to save Biden I guess. | Jun 07 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think anything they do will be enough to distract from gas that costs 3x as much. | Jun 07 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | It went up to $5.89 this morning. I pulled over and topped up at the Murphy for $5.34 because it usually takes them another day to catch up with everyone else. | Jun 07 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you see gas going down, fill up somewhere else, if you see it going up, go to Murphy, is the usual rule. | Jun 07 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've not gone "to the movies" since 2018 or 2019 (last of Planet o the Apes) | Jun 07 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | we did, however, eat popcorn at home and rianne bought a machine that makes it fast | Jun 07 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | A microwave? | Jun 07 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | A defense bailout would be as relevant there, perhaps more so, than for M$ | Jun 07 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm shocked that Trump has avoided prosecution for sedition among other things | Jun 07 12:49 |
| Techrights-sec | but that is off topic | Jun 07 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: no | Jun 07 12:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | another toy | Jun 07 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | Filling the house with crap during a recession? | Jun 07 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | rare exception | Jun 07 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | I too like to live dangerously. *arches eyebrow* | Jun 07 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | not my idea | Jun 07 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | The "news" keeps saying "if" there is a recession "later". | Jun 07 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it's possible for gas to be $6 a gallon and not have one going on right now. | Jun 07 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm still puzzling over how society can counter the problems of microsoftianism | Jun 07 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | as found in the USDA and USPTO and etc | Jun 07 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | A smart CEO would let everyone who can work from home. | Jun 07 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | The damage caused by their substandard, insufficient products is real and | Jun 07 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec | far from insignificant when taken at scale. | Jun 07 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | If they don't need child care and gas for the car and shit, and can move out of California, they'll probably gladly take a pay cut of some kind, or at least not expect huge raises for a while. | Jun 07 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | And if there are no raises coming and people see their standard of living crater, you have another problem. Low morale = low productivity. | Jun 07 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I suppose I wasn't cut out for management in a large company because the way I see it is when employees have a problem, the company has a problem. | Jun 07 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | We need to be doing enough to keep the employees at least this happy to make sure we're getting an optimal amount of productivity for our employment expense, etc. | Jun 07 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes that means a decent raise, sometimes it means encouraging them to take a vacation and go do something away for a while, doesn't have to be expensive. | Jun 07 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they take some days off and go camping or fishing or hiking, which don't cost a lot of money, but it does great things for the mind. | Jun 07 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | An overencumbered mind leads to burnout, which leads to lower productivity. | Jun 07 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Walmart got a blurb about "job creation" into WGN, probably others. | Jun 07 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | They say they want to open four new warehouses with order picking robots. | Jun 07 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | "creating jobs" | Jun 07 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Like robots create jobs. They exist so you don't have to create jobs. You have a workforce that doesn't eat, doesn't sleep, doesn't have family problems going on, doesn't take sick days, and no paychecks. | Jun 07 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | "job creators" | Jun 07 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | My uncle said that nobody takes sick days when they're sick. | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the innovation has not been happening where their products exist | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | neither academic nor industrial/commercial | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think it's not because Windows and other MSFT products sucjk | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but because capable people reject those products | Jun 07 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | They go to work sick and take the sick days when they just don't want to be at work. | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and get on with real work | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | the lesser abled people default to shitware | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and end up passing capital to Microsoft and the resellers | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | without accomplishing muchg | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | therein lies the dangers to companies and depts that choose MDF | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | a side effect is, they drive out capable technicians | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can only attracts the dropouts | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | *attract | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | or people with "certificatios" in place of real merits | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | (in places of work where they mandated Windows I made it clear I would not be really interested. in one unbiversity | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they said it would be ok to install anything I want...) | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need to be flexible to pull people who get work done and not just follow scripts (not in the technical sense) | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we live in a society where even that has become a rariry | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can use devuan or lfs or openbsd or riscos | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to "fo work" they invite you to "the clown" | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that requires 30 millionn lines of "code" | Jun 07 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | whether it's dressed up as a fox or a jackal | Jun 07 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I've had jobs where the bosses are just SO awful that I called in sick sometimes just because I didn't want to deal with their shit that day and took at three day weekend instead. | Jun 07 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Then they always wonder why they have staffing problems. | Jun 07 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Why people are always one point from being fired. | Jun 07 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | You know, the way I figured it was I had a cheap car, I had a roof over my head, I had food and video games. If I could sick out back when we called that playing hooky instead of a "mental health day", why not? | Jun 07 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | true | Jun 07 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | And the only reason you need a mental health day is because of having a boss like that. | Jun 07 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | When I had a good boss, I rarely ever called in. | Jun 07 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I've had jobs where I had to call in one day in three years or something. | Jun 07 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's the price companies pay for letting the crap float to the top. | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | The capable people reject those products and the work environment in which they | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | can exist and are thus driven out by incompetents and suckups. | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Certifications are generally a red flag warning that the potential employee | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | has no actual skills or experience or knowledge. HR on the other hand loves | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | box ticking and thus certification. | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | bloat == security holes | Jun 07 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | You promote evil ignorant people to management, morale goes into the shitter, you start having problems. Lots of problems. | Jun 07 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: crap wants other crap to join up there | Jun 07 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it poses less risk | Jun 07 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the other crap | Jun 07 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | same in politics | Jun 07 13:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got infested with few of those certification-adoring BS | Jun 07 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not without some challenge and dissent | Jun 07 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is worse | Jun 07 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes the CLIENTS have such expectations | Jun 07 13:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | ISO and other toilet paper like "AWS" | Jun 07 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec | there are some clever ways to deflect such silliness from clients, sometimes | Jun 07 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | The ISO is pretty much worthless. | Jun 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | They'll standardize pretty much anything, for money. | Jun 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | No matter how bad. | Jun 07 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | I notice that nobody even proposed Opus to the ISO. I think the ISO is losing their relevance though. | Jun 07 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Standards are catching on by their own merit or taking them to standards bodies that still function mostly like they are supposed to. | Jun 07 13:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | tickbox checking exercise | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or memorisation skills | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | those are factry floor mentalities | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "did you wear gloves"? | Jun 07 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, So many "news" articles lamenting the "death" of the "iPod". | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "did you cut it like we taught you"? | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in tech, the problems vary and are not predictable | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne joked that sarinGas was like candy sore manager | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | *store | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming we open up boxes and stuff shelves | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or close tickets like they are "people at the counter" | Jun 07 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | I pointed out any old Android phone could do more than that. | Jun 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "here, have candy" | Jun 07 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even with no data connection, you can still play most music formats on one. | Jun 07 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's not totally useless without data. Get one for next to nothing and use it as a media player. | Jun 07 13:11 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, they are meaningless tickboxes, and as such the "requirements" can often | Jun 07 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | be gamed | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | In airplane mode, the battery lasts a good long while. | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | The iPod was just an iPhone without a cellular modem at the end. | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | What's the point? | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | $400 for an iPhone with no modem? | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | You can buy an iPhone with a modem for that! | Jun 07 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ISO was valuable prior to the OOXML scandal. One could argue that one of the | Jun 07 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | primary or secondary goals was to delegitimize ISO as an organization and | Jun 07 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | undermine its reputation to the point of no return | Jun 07 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ^goals of the scandal | Jun 07 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | They standardized things that patent trolls brought them a long time before that. | Jun 07 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Like MP3. | Jun 07 13:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are some sayings that come to mind | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | along the linhes of, it takes more effort to resist than to play along | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | or, how cynicism is the way to go but few do it | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are many idioms to that effect | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this is how I've felt at work... for the past few years | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | my outlet was confronting the management | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the most senior employee I think I'm entitled or priivileged to do this | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike some colleagues | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and later I can say, "told you so..." | Jun 07 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | some banks here cannot be accessed (online) for periods of the day | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | not for security reasons | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | you and I can only imagine what happens in those time slots | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the banks would not say | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | just messages saying come back later | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, bt does this too | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are close microsoft partners | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if web sites can be up 24/76 on shoestring budget | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and LSE could run 24/7 after abandoning Microsoft (outages during daytime) | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | why can't bank with massive "tech" budgets | Jun 07 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | that replace physical branches withg "apps" and "on-line" | Jun 07 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> along the linhes of, it takes more effort to resist than to play along | Jun 07 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | Often true. | Jun 07 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Active resistance often burns up too much energy. | Jun 07 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's ways to resist and make it look like you're complying. Then you can gain compliance from people who don't bother to check if you're doing what you're supposed to. | Jun 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | I learned that lesson early on. My dad had me thrown into a psychiatric facility. | Jun 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | I went days without eating demanding to be let out. | Jun 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | I refused my medication. | Jun 07 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | The more I did that, the more that they threatened my stay there would be a very long one. | Jun 07 13:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Then I noticed that if it looked like I'd given up, nobody was actually checking to see what I did. | Jun 07 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | So I started playing along. Eating meals, taking the medication (then tossing it when nobody was looking. | Jun 07 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | And once they thought I was doing what they wanted me to do, they let me out. | Jun 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | compliance is path of least resistance | Jun 07 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | when those to whom you comply exercise a lot of control | Jun 07 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, just look like you're some dumb guy who has given up trying to push back. | Jun 07 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | And then they mostly just leave you alone. | Jun 07 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | And all most people want is to be left alone. | Jun 07 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | So that's good enough for most people. | Jun 07 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 13:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Financial security gives people the time and space they need to properly organise against social and class injustice; thus, the ruling class wants to obliterate the middle class. The ruling class DOES have financial security, but this class does not fight itself; yet worse, those people collude to cover up for each other (shared goals) | Jun 07 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I just don't buy a lot of stuff. | Jun 07 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | I buy cheap clothes and wear them for many years. | Jun 07 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | I got an apartment on the lower end of the rent scale. | Jun 07 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, if you don't get many expensive tastes and bad habits, it's not all that bad. | Jun 07 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | Children are an expensive thing and a bad habit. | Jun 07 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm mostly the same | Jun 07 13:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | except rianne shelved away many of my much older clothes | Jun 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | I see people with 3 or 4 kids complaining that gas is expensive. | Jun 07 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ones from my teenage years | Jun 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Or their electric bill is $10 higher or lower this month. | Jun 07 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids amplify this | Jun 07 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | They're worried about the wrong things because they had some control over their life and they squandered it. | Jun 07 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need heating in winter | Jun 07 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | adults need cooling | Jun 07 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about body mass | Jun 07 13:41 |
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| DaemonFC | I noticed I need the air conditioner less so far with the dehumidifier running. | Jun 07 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | I was mostly using the air conditioner to get rid of that stagnant humid air, which it will do for a lot more money. | Jun 07 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | fans can help | Jun 07 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | It gets the worst in here for days after there was a storm. | Jun 07 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | The relative humidity shoots up to like 80%. | Jun 07 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | when showers, hot showers, use gas | Jun 07 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the prices soar | Jun 07 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can then become more efficient | Jun 07 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like anywhere in the house being over 50% relative humidity. | Jun 07 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | dry shaving, shorter showers | Jun 07 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | So I set the duehumidifier at 45. 45 at the unit = 50 in the other rooms. | Jun 07 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | 50 = 58. | Jun 07 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a big problem in england | Jun 07 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | It gets pretty gross in here without that. | Jun 07 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | temperature range here is OK | Jun 07 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | High humidity makes it very hard to sleep. | Jun 07 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of which, I had a weird dream last night. | Jun 07 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | John was in it. We were at a library and he annoyed a police officer who made everyone else look away while he took out his baton and cracked John's skull in with it and then walked off. | Jun 07 13:46 |
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| schestowitz-TR | good dream then? | Jun 07 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | mayeb he needed the skull tom unlock the "smart" KIA | Jun 07 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | Disturbing still. | Jun 07 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it IS disturbing | Jun 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, why would you be in a LIBRARY! | Jun 07 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Jun 07 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | joke | Jun 07 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | You go to sleep and your mind can do anything it wants to you. | Jun 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | depends | Jun 07 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | Then Mandy wonders why I don't like to sleep at night. | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | first, another person can wake you up | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you show signs of unease | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | second, if your life is relatively clam those dreams become less wild | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *calm | Jun 07 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy just sleeps through it. | Jun 07 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | Then I sleep in the day and in the day I get sleep paralysis. | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | he saw dogs smashed IRL | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | he can take a bad dream or two | Jun 07 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | sleep paralysis happens a lot in daytime | Jun 07 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the reason I put so many locks on the door is because of that. | Jun 07 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | depending on posture, too | Jun 07 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not experienced any sleep paralysis in a very very long time | Jun 07 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | I always hallucinate that there's someone breaking into the apartment. | Jun 07 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | They're going to kill me but I can't move. I can't move and they're coming. | Jun 07 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | sense of presence | Jun 07 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | just remind yourself it's a false sense | Jun 07 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and go back to sleep | Jun 07 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I do that. | Jun 07 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | or cause adrenaline rush to wake up | Jun 07 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, if I can manage to move a finger, I come out of it faster. | Jun 07 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's extremely frustrating. Like my hand doesn't want to move but if I force it to, it will slowly start to move, and then everything else unlocks a few seconds later. | Jun 07 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | It's easier to get my left hand to move than my right hand. | Jun 07 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | Which is strange, because I'm right-handed. | Jun 07 13:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> COVID-19 ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/covid-is-not-behind-us-its-still-sending-children-to-the-emergency-room/ | Source: TruthOut | Jun 07 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | COVID Is Not Behind Us — It’s Still Sending Children to the Emergency Room | Jun 07 14:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Instead of patching its own ACTIVELY-EXPLOITED holes Microsoft launched a weeks-long anti-Linux FUD campaign in the media, accusing Linux of having security lapses (that were not) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/microsoft-wont-say-if-it-will-patch-critical-windows-vulnerability-under-exploit/ | Jun 07 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft won’t say if it will patch critical Windows vulnerability under exploit | Ars Technica | Jun 07 14:25 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 14:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was never sure how to respond to it | Jun 07 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | not because I lacked counter-argumentrs | Jun 07 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but because it would give more room/space for the FUD | Jun 07 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is likely the goal | Jun 07 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | linuxsecurity.com is an anti-Linux site | Jun 07 14:32 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 15:59 |
| Techrights-sec | yes many sites have misleading names or titles to lure in people and then | Jun 07 15:59 |
| Techrights-sec | feed them disinformation and FUD against Linux and FOSS | Jun 07 15:59 |
| Techrights-sec | mainstream media could be repaired by abandoning this "both sides" crap and | Jun 07 15:59 |
| Techrights-sec | attempting to focus on verifiable facts | Jun 07 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | gang is code for oligarchs who break the media code | Jun 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the ones who bought Politico 2 years agi | Jun 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *ago | Jun 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'winged' media causes people not t focus on facts | Jun 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but worry if one sounds right- or left-wing | Jun 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | when covering those facts | Jun 07 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, except that the media no longer covers facts but instead focuses on 'sides' | Jun 07 16:06 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the other night I looked a lot or fished for story ideas re epo | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | the epo picked politics, not unlike mozilla and eff | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | like all this war stuff | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | same tactics as eu | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so people who oppose epo might seem pro-russia or similar | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but of course blasting epo over belarus hits the po where it hurts | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it shows that epo is opposite of what it presents itself as | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | with eu and esp. germany you could use energy contracts | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | to contradict what they are saying | Jun 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, former germany head of state was on board of gasprom | Jun 07 16:09 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 16:16 |
| Techrights-sec | regarding Germany, they talk but do the opposite of the talk | Jun 07 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | putler is a man of his word | Jun 07 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | germany politicians are pawns od moneyed interests | Jun 07 16:16 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, like M$ which seems to own more than a few high level DE politicians | Jun 07 16:18 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/olaf-scholz-and-ukraine-why-has-germany-been-so-slow-to-deliver-weapons-a-7cc8397b-2448-49e6-afa5-00311c8fedce | Jun 07 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.spiegel.de | Olaf Scholz and Ukraine: Why Has Germany Been So Slow to Deliver Weapons? - DER SPIEGEL | Jun 07 16:18 | |
| Techrights-sec | apropos RU and UA | Jun 07 16:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just microsoft | Jun 07 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for historic reasons mostly them | Jun 07 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 10 years it can be more gulag and other occupying forces | Jun 07 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not loyal to a nation but to shareholders) | Jun 07 16:19 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Jun 07 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I said the other week, I think for the long-term we need to identify the pattern | Jun 07 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and keep attacking those | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than the brands | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like with patents, there's a framework being leveraged | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the brands exploiting that will change over time and work in parallel | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | some patent front groups work for Microsoft and Gulag at the same time | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | OIN works for ICBM and Microsoft | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is the approach | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | another aspect is how to swerve and avoid the common trolling tactics | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like all the pseudo-ethics | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | while not coming across as a bigot | Jun 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | showing their hypocrisy is a very powerful approach | Jun 07 16:26 |
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| Techrights-sec | thinking about the Rossmann video on corruption it is essential to remember that | Jun 07 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec | the context for his comments is US politics and only US politics. The | Jun 07 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec | first-past-the-post system is not used in Europe and so the dynamics are | Jun 07 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec | completely different. | Jun 07 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | the most threatening companies, even in Europe, aree American. They don't hold elections. | Jun 07 18:16 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, that's true | Jun 07 18:17 |
| Techrights-sec | the don't hold elections just bribe | Jun 07 18:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | "marketing help" | Jun 07 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | seriously though, there is also no lack of stories of IBM and Oracle corruption | Jun 07 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to be a cultural thing | Jun 07 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | assumption of a lack of oversight and punioshment/consequences\ | Jun 07 18:18 |
| Techrights-sec | Oracle tested the lack of punishment when it bought InnoDB | Jun 07 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of making more robust system for data they just undermine what exists already | Jun 07 18:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is the whole raison detre of antitrust law and sherman act | Jun 07 18:19 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.databasejournal.com/mysql/oracles-purchase-of-innodb-their-release-of-oracle-express-and-the-effect-on-mysql/ | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | The US DOJ did nothing, so Ellison realized there was nothing to get in the way | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | of doing anything he wanted | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | above a certain size, it is more convenient to stifle the market than | Jun 07 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.databasejournal.com | Oracle's purchase of InnoDB, their release of Oracle Express, and the effect on MySQL | Database Journal | Jun 07 18:21 | |
| Techrights-sec | engage in competition or strive for advancement. Also, since the MBAs involved | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | know nothing about computers and even less about databases, it is easier for | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | them to get their tiny minds around the concept. Furthermore there is the | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | zero-sum-game religion that most of them seem to adhere to and through that | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | they seem to figure that they're making a winner by throwing sand in everyone's | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | gears | Jun 07 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec | yes but is also the reason that the agency responsible for enforcing those | Jun 07 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | laws has been basically defunded and hobbled | Jun 07 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | that's why Ellison tested the waters first with the purchase of InnoDB; that | Jun 07 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | should have been stopped but wasn't so he went out and bought MySQL too seeing | Jun 07 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | as it was Oracle's only major competitor at the time. | Jun 07 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | i checked out mysql dumps this morning | Jun 07 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are ok | Jun 07 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | somehow it feels like mysql has been ok since then, maybe partly because mariadb exists | Jun 07 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's also libreoffice vs openoffice.orfg | Jun 07 18:29 |
| Techrights-sec | I think the existence of MariaDB has been the sole reason MySQL has done ok. | Jun 07 18:29 |
| Techrights-sec | Berkeley DB has not fared as well under Oracle, BDB was once very widespread | Jun 07 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | but Oracle has more or less killed it off through several measures. | Jun 07 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | i checked out mysql dumps this morning | Jun 07 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are ok | Jun 07 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | somehow it feels like mysql has been ok since then, maybe partly because mariadb exists | Jun 07 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's also libreoffice vs openoffice.orfg | Jun 07 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | at work we standardised around psql a long time ago because our DBAs and experience was based around that | Jun 07 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | That happened in 2006 | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | after InnoDB | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | which was sold in 2005 | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | PostgreSQL is a better choice technically though far less common. | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | BSD whiners made to much noise about the license for it to be taken that | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | seriously however. The whining turned off almost anyone starting to look into | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | the matter and they made it look like the license was the sole difference | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | aside from some incompatiblities. But looking past the license and only at | Jun 07 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | the capabilities, it is a better choice for most deployments | Jun 07 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have a foot now in OSI board | Jun 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that it matters so much | Jun 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | OSI is lacking the clout it once had | Jun 07 18:34 |
| Techrights-sec | However, one good move is that BDB is now under AGPL + dual license | Jun 07 18:35 |
| Techrights-sec | The decline of OSI was an intentional move by the then board. | Jun 07 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne just came back | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | saw a shoplifter caught today | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | full chicken told for 0.3 pounds | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | *sold | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | escorted out | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, she found enough stuff | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | saw dead pigeon, wanted to bury it | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but hands already full | Jun 07 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | did the shopliffter get thrashed? | Jun 07 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | oh | Jun 07 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | [16:44] <techrights-news> Oligarchy ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/06/it-doesnt-matter-oligarchy-how-many-mass-shootings-there-are | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 07 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | It Doesn't Matter to the Oligarchy How Many Mass Shootings There Are | Chris Hedges | Jun 07 18:41 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing. Blog migrated. https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael | Jun 07 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meeksfamily.uk | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing | Jun 07 19:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | notice how outsourcing to gnome | Jun 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and relying on planets | Jun 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | cost him a lot | Jun 07 19:03 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Jun 07 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the tuesday remarks | Jun 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is the sort of stuff I've long kept in mind | Jun 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those "blogs" I contributed to which later vanished completely | Jun 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | though usually I kepy my own copies and reposted these on my turf | Jun 07 19:05 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Jun 07 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | planets deter, discourage, obscure, omit, prosecute dissenting voices | Jun 07 19:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are echo chambers like social control media if not worse | Jun 07 19:09 |
| Techrights-sec | yes I would say that planets are mostly bad | Jun 07 19:10 |
| Techrights-sec | not just dissenting voices, but off-message posts get censored too | Jun 07 19:10 |
| Techrights-sec | not off-topic just off-message | Jun 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | their editors'/eeditor's vanity project | Jun 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it doesn't start this way | Jun 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was going to use some other words to explain the relation and utility, but forgot... though the underlying concepts | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | are the same | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cultivate groupthink | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence tghe grouping | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the latest blog post from, wait... forgot his name... norbert | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hang on... Norbert Preining: Modern world https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/modern-world/ | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did a Linus on him | Jun 07 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.preining.info | Modern world | There and back again | Jun 07 19:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | forced apology, compelled to give a talk with "diversity" candidate | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | then he left | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | now this blog post | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was going to use some other words to explain the relation and utility, but forgot... though the underlying concepts | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | are the same | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they cultivate groupthink | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence tghe grouping | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | see the latest blog post from, wait... forgot his name... norbert | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | hang on... Norbert Preining: Modern world https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/modern-world/ | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did a Linus on him | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | forced apology, compelled to give a talk with "diversity" candidate | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | then he left | Jun 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | now this blog post | Jun 07 19:13 |
| Techrights-sec | did they try forced, unnecessary treatment on him like with Torvalds and, | Jun 07 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | presumably, others? | Jun 07 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe short of him donning rainbows in his blog he will never be forgiven | Jun 07 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | he tried to play their game | Jun 07 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and realised he was wasting his time | Jun 07 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will never be happy | Jun 07 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | even though he spent like x10 longer in thie project | Jun 07 19:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and made technical mcontributions, not just hearsay and gossip | Jun 07 19:15 |
| Techrights-sec | even if he ingratiates himself, it will not help -- as you point out they | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | will never be happy; furthermore it has been shown time and again there and | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | elsewhere over many, many decades that appeasement does not work especially | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | towards bullies and despots and wannabe dictators | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | It's not about technical contributesion is about CoCs and blue hair | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | The goal is to wrest control of the projects from those who made them | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | by using proxies and catspaws | Jun 07 19:19 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/01/future-of-my-packages-in-debian/ | Jun 07 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.preining.info | Future of "my" packages in Debian | There and back again | Jun 07 19:19 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://danielpocock.com/debian-jonathan-carter-chris-lamb-resignations/ | Jun 07 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-danielpocock.com | Calling for Jonathan Carter & Chris Lamb to resign from Debian | Jun 07 19:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw that 10 mins ago, was reading | Jun 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | "then they fight you..." | Jun 07 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | (me also, remember I walk on narrow pebbles when merely linking to these) | Jun 07 19:25 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you stand up for nobody, who will stand up for you? | Jun 07 19:25 |
| Techrights-sec | correct | Jun 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was thinking of collecting screenshots to demonstrate the bias of linuxsecuirty.com | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but instead I will wait another week | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and see if it improves | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | reposting a lot of shite for VMware+Microsoft | Jun 07 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 19:28 |
| Techrights-sec | https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/paul-pelosis-bought-up-to-2-1m-of-apple-microsoft-shares/ | Jun 07 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nypost.com | Paul Pelosi's bought up to $2.1M of Apple, Microsoft shares | Jun 07 19:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR | USA, Inc. | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Not to even be taken seriously anymore | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter which corporate party | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thus it must be dealt with as a political issue | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ask the Polosis how much they preofited from Biden's bailout to Microsoft | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's like he's passing federal money into his pocket | Jun 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and months ago demands were made to ban politicians from stocktrading | Jun 07 19:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yes he is | Jun 07 19:54 |
| Techrights-sec | and he's passing influence into the legislature via his wife, that conflict | Jun 07 19:54 |
| Techrights-sec | of interest is unavoidable | Jun 07 19:54 |
| Techrights-sec | of interest is unavoidable in that situation but banning stock trading | Jun 07 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | while in office for the politician and their spouse would prevent that | Jun 07 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | but the lobbying money from Wallstreet would prevent that as handily as | Jun 07 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | they did prevent Warren from running for office. | Jun 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot change the game by playing according to its rules | Jun 07 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to find some laterial path or angle | Jun 07 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Sanders too will realise it before he looks like Noam Chomsky at 95 | Jun 07 20:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Sanders is already too old for the office of president, so is Biden, amd | Jun 07 20:05 |
| Techrights-sec | probably Warren. | Jun 07 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | earlier this year I check yough photos of Warren out of curiousity | Jun 07 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing she looks younger than she really is | Jun 07 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | AOC has some promise and the vicious attacks or hatred from the right reaffirm this | Jun 07 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I don't know if enough a-holes in "red states" can get themselves to vote for a | Jun 07 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "foreigner" (not) from "copuntry" (not) like Puerto Rico | Jun 07 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | This is where oligarchy is not just "cool" witrh gun crime but also with bigotry | Jun 07 20:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 20:10 |
| Techrights-sec | yes that's how it looks from here too | Jun 07 20:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember they were ready to use atheism against Sanders | Jun 07 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | while likely relaying on (unofficially, vbehind closed doors) antisemitism coming to the rescure too | Jun 07 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. in the "middle" states | Jun 07 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | while the media the oligarchs fund (still) spreads all this "bolshevik" myth | Jun 07 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jun 07 20:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | trump went on the alex jones show | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is where you can rile up the cranks with their whispers campaigns | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing is off limits when you want to win power | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | even meetings int he tower... with RUSSIAN officials | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | to coordinate the election stategy | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | sedition is without consequences 18 months later | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | riling up mobs | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and alex jones and all that | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he ran against Sanders | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | he and breitbart (oligarchs-funded) | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | would ensure the "ZOG" crankery would kick into full wwing | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | swing | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | "unofficially" | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they did with obama and "muslim brotherhood" | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | calling him muslim and stuff | Jun 07 20:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | facts don't matter anymore | Jun 07 20:17 |
| Techrights-sec | fact-free news media let that happen rather than calling it and other | Jun 07 20:20 |
| Techrights-sec | bullshit out | Jun 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is new kind of abused "media" | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is called "fact checkers" | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and there is a push to phase in that "fact checking" as a FILTER | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the name of fighting words that the CIA partly came up with, IIRC | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | censorship spun as "security" | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | while you let a sitting president rile up for sedition | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and get away with it | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe evben run for president again | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | "security" | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | Canada needs to build a wall ;-) | Jun 07 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | snopes used to do that now it only offers spin on the investigated topics | Jun 07 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | not just that but the initial campaign in 2016 had clear legal transgressions | Jun 07 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | which are actionable | Jun 07 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.vox.com/2020/9/29/21493319/trump-russia-if-youre-listening-comments-rewrite-history | Jun 07 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | that's just one of manhy | Jun 07 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Trump says “Russia, if you’re listening” was a joke. There’s tape proving otherwise. - Vox | Jun 07 20:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | whichsnopes? | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | WHICH snopes? | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | It's like slashdot | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | around 7 years ago it became a media aite | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | *site | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | riding the past reputation as a fact checker | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, the owners too change, or the operators | Jun 07 20:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the name stayed | Jun 07 20:25 |
| Techrights-sec | yep snopes died but left the name to essentially a new organization with | Jun 07 20:33 |
| Techrights-sec | new goals and methods | Jun 07 20:33 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC a divorce was involved too | Jun 07 20:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | SPLC | Jun 07 20:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Twitter is dying, fast. There's a Carl Icahn with hairplugs now. His name is Ilon. [sic] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/twitter_musk_bots/ | Jun 07 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk threatens to terminate $46.5bn Twitter deal • The Register | Jun 07 23:51 | |
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