●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 07, 2022 ●●
● Aug 07
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● Aug 07
[05:39]	schestowitz-TR	gm
[05:39]	schestowitz-TR	I can make ipfs addition of objects about 5 times faster
[05:39]	schestowitz-TR	but atm the ability to serve ipfs from a home node over copper is now good
[05:39]	schestowitz-TR	so making the code more efficient might be pointless
● Aug 07
[06:33]	Techrights-sec	gm
[06:33]	Techrights-sec	the efficiency might come in handy later somehow
[06:33]	Techrights-sec	ack
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	I'm running garbage collection for ipfs atm
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	trying to see if I can salvage the darn shebang
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	the problem is that it times out a lot
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	daniel p, who also runs a node of ipfs, complained he was havinf similar issues
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	very slow or not reachable 
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	but I don't give up just yet
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	they did make improvements before
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	and I thought about it yesterday
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	under some circumstances, you can give it more resources 
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	like a vps 
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	to bypass dns/site censorship
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	the imp;ortant thing is to maintain the index of hashes and file store
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	the data is now 900 MB in aggregated side 
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	20+ months of bulletins and irc files
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	the datastore, or caches etc. grew to about 5gb 
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	I think that's too much, many stale files in there
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	btw, the 5:10am backup went well
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	now I just need to write something to purge old backups
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	those backups include some working files of rianne and myself
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	so the backup drive becomes a third disk onto which to write active work
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	in TR git you will see some long-overdue changes associates
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	with the toxic residue of "hashtags"
[06:34]	schestowitz-TR	to me, they're not just a way to refer to IRC channel on our network
[06:35]	schestowitz-TR	do you think it would be sensible to mention in TM that we're now in gemini and point to clients or primers?
[06:35]	Techrights-sec	not quite yet, the Gemini capsule is getting there but there are still
[06:35]	Techrights-sec	problems with the conversion and such
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	I think the order or migration might be
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	first say we have a capsule
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	later, make copies of "new" nodes (July, August)
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	add rediections
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	test
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	revert back to backups
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	lock old DB/CMS
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	update rss feed by redirection
[06:37]	schestowitz-TR	I'll contact marius asking him to test node creation
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[06:46]	Techrights-sec	thanks, marius' input is very important though I don't want to inconvenience
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	him with too much, I just hope the work flow is acceptable
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	as mentioned an other option is to do all the editing, including the metadata,
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	via nano (or should there be a provision for using vi too?)
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	perhaps the first step is that we say there /will/ be a capsule
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	it's not production-ready by any means atm
[06:46]	Techrights-sec	it's rather close though
[06:48]	schestowitz-TR	I've decided not to tell him yet as the UI or interfaces (apis) might change a bit and it's hard to explain over email with nitty-gritty details like, this time
[06:48]	schestowitz-TR	you cannot hotlink, but here, have this tool where you wget a file and it generates for you some html bits (which is still work in progress)
● Aug 07
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	I've just garbage-collected away over a GB of ipfs objects regarded as stale
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	but performance is still sub-par 
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	maybe I'll pass ipfs to a datacentre?
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	I've just garbage-collected away over a GB of ipfs objects regarded as stale
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	but performance is still sub-par 
[07:00]	schestowitz-TR	maybe I'll pass ipfs to a datacentre?
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	there is a bug somewhere in that an empty slug turned up
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	I'm not sure how to duplicate it but it was probably during the input process
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	RP2040_based_board_ships_for_5_40 should have been the right slug
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	the empty slug is one that I noticed
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	and I think it's my mistake
[07:01]	schestowitz-TR	maybe it doesn't check for some edge case
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	how often should garbage-collection be run?  Is there a way to trigger it
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	automatically when it is needed before it would be too slow?
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	only a mistake in the UI, it should not be possible to create an empty slug
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	can you recall the process? 
[07:01]	Techrights-sec	The other fields were present in that record, just the slug was empty 
[07:02]	schestowitz-TR	I don't remember how or why it happened
[07:02]	schestowitz-TR	I jst noticed that it did
[07:04]	Techrights-sec	checking
[07:04]	schestowitz-TR	thought: we now have a modern OS
[07:04]	schestowitz-TR	and ipfs has not scaled well for my connection for ages already
[07:04]	schestowitz-TR	should I deploy to the tr alpine VM?
[07:04]	schestowitz-TR	and see if I can sync new objects to there?
[07:04]	schestowitz-TR	probably well overdue
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	oh, better yet, keep the node at home, usually turned off,
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	and add a node at the server, which will become a primary one
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	it just needs to have the same objects in it
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	I'll make it today's objective
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	we'll see how alpine can copy with golang
[07:07]	schestowitz-TR	*cope
[07:08]	Techrights-sec	there is an lxc container techrights-new
[07:08]	Techrights-sec	if IPFS can be added from the repository, it might be ok to try there
[07:08]	Techrights-sec	if it cannot be added from the repository, it might not be a good idea to
[07:08]	Techrights-sec	that might work too, but my main concern is sticking with tools from
[07:08]	Techrights-sec	the repository
[07:08]	schestowitz	https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/go-ipfs
[07:08]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/go-ipfs )
[07:08]	schestowitz	"404 Page not found."
[07:08]	schestowitz	looks like it was removed
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	WARNING: Ignoring http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main: No such file or directory
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	right, but apk is unfamiliar so the steps to correct that error are elusiv
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community: temporary error (try again later)
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	WARNING: Ignoring http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community: No such file or directory
[07:12]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org | Index of /alpine/edge/main/
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	2 errors; 27 distinct packages available
[07:12]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org | Index of /alpine/edge/community/
[07:12]	Techrights-sec	wget: bad address 'dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org'
[07:13]	Techrights-sec	if it's not in the repository it would be inadvisable to have it on a public
[07:13]	Techrights-sec	facing system on fat pipes in a data centre
[07:15]	Techrights-sec	I don't see any IPFS stuff in the repository at all, at least no by name
[07:16]	schestowitz-TR	there used to bethere used to be
[07:16]	schestowitz	https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GabBWWvsr4oJ:https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86/go-ipfs+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=pub-2479740519054892
[07:16]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webcache.googleusercontent.com | Alpine Linux packages
[07:16]	Techrights-sec	hmm then it may have been removed from the 3.x series
[07:16]	Techrights-sec	ack
[07:17]	schestowitz	MaintainerOleg Titov
[07:17]	schestowitz	Build time2022-07-21 14:19:15
[07:22]	Techrights-sec	ack
[07:22]	Techrights-sec	something is up with apk, perhaps dns:
[07:22]	Techrights-sec	 ping -c 3 dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org
[07:22]	Techrights-sec	ping: bad address 'dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org'
[07:22]	Techrights-sec	that's google :(
[07:23]	Techrights-sec	resolv.conf is empty
[07:23]	Techrights-sec	doesnt the data centre have its own?
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	yes, you need to echo '8.8.8.8' > resolve... or similar
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	I'm on that machine atm as well
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	choose dns
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	I tried adding ipfs or go-ipfs
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	add dns to it, of your choie
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	most 'free' choices are awful
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	and ISPs pretend they need not provide any
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	you can see what kaniini suggested for tm-new
[07:23]	schestowitz-TR	he and xrevan were arguing over it
[07:24]	Techrights-sec	the DNS should be as topologically close to the data centre as possible
[07:25]	schestowitz-TR	can you add one and then try apk add ipfs?
[07:26]	schestowitz-TR	if you do that I can take care of the rest and hopefully ipfs@techrights will be back on top
[07:26]	schestowitz-TR	that would also remove a yoke from my home pi
[07:26]	schestowitz-TR	and hokme network in general
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	ok
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	# apk add go-ipfs
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	(1/2) Installing kubo (0.14.0-r1)
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	Executing kubo-0.14.0-r1.pre-install
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	Executing kubo-0.14.0-r1.post-install
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	To be able to use the ipfs service you will need to create the ipfs repository
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	(eg: su -s /bin/sh -c "ipfs init -e" ipfs)
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	or change IPFS_PATH of /etc/conf.d/ipfs with another with proper permissions.
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	(2/2) Installing kubo-openrc (0.14.0-r1)
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	Executing busybox-1.35.0-r22.trigger
[07:27]	Techrights-sec	OK: 72 MiB in 30 packages
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● Aug 07
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	ping
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	installed nanop and ssh, configured them
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	we need to decide on user accounts (for ssh/rsync) 
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	created account for me
[08:03]	Techrights-sec	a dns entry might help
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	should I make dns entry?
[08:03]	schestowitz-TR	created account for ipfs
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	which subdomain/s?
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	at some point maybe ipfs. git. etc    
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	if we have new and old in tandem at one point tr-new.techrights.org would seem odd
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	can you create yourself an account with adduser?
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	I'll add just ipfs.techrights.org for now
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	added rsync also
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	dns is working ok now (from here)
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs.techrights.org
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs will have its own user
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	consistent with the pi, not same access creds
[08:10]	Techrights-sec	tr-new ?   
[08:10]	Techrights-sec	ok  
[08:12]	schestowitz-TR	it'll take several days for me to upload the ipfs directory, but that's OK, there's no hurry
[08:12]	schestowitz-TR	I've compacted the data as best as I could
[08:13]	Techrights-sec	$ ssh-keygen -t ed25519 -C 'roy tr-new' -f tr-new
[08:13]	Techrights-sec	$ ssh-copy-id -i tr-new ipfs.techrights.org
[08:13]	Techrights-sec	I can log in now with keys.  Have you set up keys yet?  It is important to
[08:13]	Techrights-sec	turn of password authentication as soon we can
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	let me first ther transfer and then set keys up for both acccounts
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	so that they can pass files as needed
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, tuxmachines needs to be done first
[08:15]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs is not urgent, but it's long overdue that we give it the b/w it needs without choking gemini and rianne's videos etc.
[08:15]	Techrights-sec	The above two lines will do it .
[08:16]	Techrights-sec	updated /etc/profile
[08:16]	Techrights-sec	maybe TR's Git ought be moved there too?
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	that'll require also making changes on the pi/gemini
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	eventually
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	that'll require also making changes on the pi/gemini
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	small changes, assuming same alias
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	ok
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	not big changes though
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	yes
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR	passwordless login set up fro roy
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	but don'\t turn off pw yet
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	as I need to do the same for the pi later
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	when done copying I'll test to see if object availability improves over ipfs
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	before doing any coding or investing further time in this
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	having a fixed ip address can help
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	as it's easy for the swarm to predict where to find the registered device id
[08:26]	Techrights-sec	it doesn't need to be password less, the key can have a strong passphrase
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● Aug 07
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	# du -sh
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	111.8M  .
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	after about an hour
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	it'll take days longer
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it's a one-time thing, then I'll just need to add the new objects to it, which can take under a minute
[09:12]	Techrights-sec	ack
[09:22]	schestowitz-TR	in theory we could add videos to ipfs (scale issue due to total size of videos and time taken to get checksums
[09:23]	schestowitz-TR	but we don't lack capacity there
[09:23]	schestowitz-TR	I tried peertube and it's only good if many people have copies
[09:23]	schestowitz-TR	blender3d adopted it, but it's just way too slow
[09:23]	schestowitz-TR	fsf adopted it also, but it containue to use locally-hosted mediagoblin
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	ack
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	my uninformed guess is that the size would choke most nodes
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	they need to host an extra seed (or whatever it is called) themselves to
[09:23]	Techrights-sec	bootstrap the process; if it's too slow people turn away rather than join in
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	such an extra seed might end up de facto dedicated hosting
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	in which case nothing is achieved by peertube
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	like ipfs where one node only has the hashed data
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	there's a reason why bittorrent only ever scales well for things like big films, popular music, pr0n etc.
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	the incentive to share today's news won't be there next week or in 10 years
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	but music from 10 years ago is still alluring to many people
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	you rely on oveerlap in what many people are after and thus have copies of, locally stored
[09:27]	Techrights-sec	ack
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	one merit of ipfs is that it bypasses dns
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	but it has its own addressing system
[09:27]	schestowitz-TR	ands not every node has updated information of which node is on which ip, assuming people's isps shuffle that around a lot
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[09:41]	Techrights-sec	yes ISPs change home IP addresses rather often
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	it helps discourage hosting anything public from home
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	i.e. it helps "protect the children"
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	I asked BT, repeatedly, what it would take to get static ip address
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	they said no way unless you are business
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	when I worked in dial support as undergrad students we gave some profs fixed ip addresses, iirc
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	some also ran vpn through us (MMC)
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	*MCC
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	So they can access things like library from home
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	connections are faster now
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	but services are not much improved
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	The proprietrary portion of the university libraries' digital collections
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	used to be available via SSO (kerberos and ldap);  You'd log in from where
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	you were, if it was not a campus IP address, and away you'd go.  Now there
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	are boondoggles like VPNs and such, especially CISCO, VPNs which have poor
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	performance and are really only there to burn up the budget and to block
[09:51]	Techrights-sec	Linux and *BSD clients
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	back then a big challenge, for me also, was supporting mandrake users and such
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	this was 20 years ago
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	we had some instructions, but for the most part the bsd and gnu/linux profs were on their own
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	I used mandrake in the officer and later tried ubuntu 4.10 (first release) on a dell desktop
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	it just looked and behaved like debian
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	it was debian with bongo sound and another set of themes/colours
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	MS (Mark S) did an MS. He copied the competition. Now he's pushing crap like snaps.
[09:54]	schestowitz-TR	 Canonical https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c05bb0e-b52e-426a-8bd8-cf63c21ac9b9_1600x1067.png
[09:55]	Techrights-sec	at the time it was nearly identical to Debian
[09:55]	Techrights-sec	that was quite nice, Debian with polish
[09:57]	schestowitz-TR	debian with polish is called sparkyLinux ;-)
[09:57]	schestowitz-TR	POLISH, gedddit?
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	sparky= polish distro based on debian
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	eurolinux=polish distro based on rhel
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	they do other locales too
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	but don't have marketing capacity
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	cannot afford to buy "LET'S TALK" episodes from clickfraud spamni
[09:59]	schestowitz-TR	where 99% of the "views" are bots
● Aug 07
[10:00]	Techrights-sec	There was a Polis(ed) distro for a while but it was only ok for one release or
[10:00]	Techrights-sec	so and then it got quickly out of maintenance and more trouble than it was
[10:00]	Techrights-sec	worth; it was a good try though 
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	m4linux is polish too, but I cannot recall for sure what it is based on
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	it has routine releases, marius covers it a lot
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	gnu/linux was originally a community respons to corporate shittiness from ibm (1980s) or xerox
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	but then it was called "linux" and sold as the reaction to Microsoft'a crimes and market abuses
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	now we need the commuity to replace
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	a) corporate distros (inc. AWS)
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	b) corporate controlled distros like SPI/Debian (they have Arch in the bag, too)
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	what's needed is people who know how to assemble the tools
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	and reject shit like snap, firefox, chro* and systemd
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	pclinusos comes close
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	and uses kde, not gnome
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	alpine is good also
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	a lot of what people think they need they don't really need
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	if you must play games, aaa games, maybe get a console like steamos (arch/kde/drm)
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	steam deck, with steamos
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	I think newswaffle is awesome and our goal in gemini should be to add more missing pieces
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	we have youtube mirror, github mirror (ish, more like gateway), way to read any news site one choose
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	in any language
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	weather there are several options
[10:05]	schestowitz-TR	some games and riddles
[10:06]	schestowitz-TR	social control media does not need a replacement
[10:06]	schestowitz-TR	it just needs to die
[10:06]	Techrights-sec	a) good way to describe the, "cloud" services are basically proprietary
[10:06]	Techrights-sec	distros
[10:06]	Techrights-sec	b) Devuan has a fighting chance now
[10:06]	Techrights-sec	Alpine seems very nice and lean; It's much better than I though it would be and
[10:06]	Techrights-sec	I was already positively inclined towards it from the beginning
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[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	I spoke to jonathen cartel
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	he's not so bad
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	there was pressure for him to be a dick like sam
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	sam did a GR on systemd
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	not under this name obviously
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	they didn't fgollow through ... yet
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	maybe lennard working for a debconf SPONSOR will wake them up
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	BTW, I did a quick post on devuan yesterday
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	re ipfs, given that isps give us appalling upload speeds we can use that as a building block to make a more decentralised Net (maybe Web, too)
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	the key thing is to put ipfs in lots of places
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	I removed the alias australia.techrights.org
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	as the guy no longer wants ipfs connecting to a zillion ip address, inc. some from CHOYNA (aussie accent)
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	230mb uploaded so far... I think I can upload just the objects, not datastore (like cache)
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	and then start from that... will save me days' worth of uploading
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	to speed it up I've stopped rsync
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	now uploading with --exclude
[10:24]	Techrights-sec	ack
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	for things I think it can autogenerate anyway
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	datastore and blocks
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	lol, I wrote jonathan CARTEL
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	must be muscle memory
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	but still funny
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	I think as soon as I have SOME objects, I will be able to start ipfs on the server
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	and later add the new arrivals
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	for gemini capsule I can write the page to html, then wget from the pi
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	it's public data anyway
[10:24]	schestowitz-TR	or use ssh/similar, we don't have nginx/apache on the server yet
[10:33]	Techrights-sec	which would you prefer, nginx or apache2?
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	we currently use apache, so it means less to change afterwards
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	but let's finish TM first, knowing some of the setup there helps with TR later (e.g. git)
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	I think just copying across the files from centos and running git on them would be OK
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	if you have spare time you can try that already, first as a second address
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	there's also the "Links" account
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	we can tidy up the files and programs when moving to the new /home
[10:36]	schestowitz-TR	not systemd-homed
[10:37]	Techrights-sec	ok 
[10:37]	Techrights-sec	I've made a directory for the vhost but will not add apache2 yet
[10:37]	Techrights-sec	I gues the Links account can be moved 
● Aug 07
[11:25]	Techrights-sec	in Amfora, it is possible now to progress forward through Tux Machines posts
[11:25]	Techrights-sec	by pressing Enter twice per post.
[11:25]	schestowitz-TR	i assume double tap means progress to first link?
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[11:44]	Techrights-sec	yes
[11:44]	Techrights-sec	tab then enter works too
[11:44]	Techrights-sec	but the first link is the defaut so enter is less work
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● Aug 07
[12:00]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs running on the server now
[12:00]	schestowitz-TR	I'll add more objects as they arrive
[12:00]	Techrights-sec	ok
[12:00]	Techrights-sec	moving links over to ipfs.techrights.org
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR	oh, excellent, I assume ... or never mind, you sent daily links already
[12:03]	Techrights-sec	yes they were sent already
[12:07]	Techrights-sec	seems to work; anyway, that's where the'll be tomorrow
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	inotify is available, if needed ...
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[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	Oh, I was in the wrong window
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	I wanted to say, OK, so I didn't respond as I was busy posting some links
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	and am also tinkering with ipfs
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	it already runs with the data it has gotten so far
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	as for links, I diodn't realise a connection was broken
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	so I was not getting alerted about new links
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	I think that's all I wanted to say, but maybe there was more
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	I will have to change code and topologies later for ipfs to work nicely on the server side
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	but first I'll check the impct on object availability
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[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	[13:25] <schestowitz> https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/08/03/the-owner-of-the-proprietary-software-controls-the-computer-not-the-owner-of-the-computer/ is a video TR p
[18:06]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-neritam.wordpress.com | The owner of the proprietary software controls the computer, not the owner of the computer neritam
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	osted as webm this year, it's hotlinked 
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	612mb/~940mb
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	I've already added many objects to ipfs and need your advice
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	so here is what I'm thinking
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	2:30-40am, machine generates irc logs, then bulletin, time it finishes unknown
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	it'll report in irc
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	then it sends all the objects to the pi as before 
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	in addition it sends them to TR-new and reports to me if issues exist
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs processes the object on the server, not the pi
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	but the pi needs those objects for gemini, as well
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs might run very gently as a fallback or background process, not touch the disk much
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	at 3am the server adds the new objects (9 in total)
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	it then sends the new hashes stuff to your homdir on the SERVER, not the pi
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	it also updates the ipfs tables and transmits to gemini on the pi, or the pi pulls the index of hashes from a www address
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	ok
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	how much can be transfered to tr-new and removed from the pi?
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	this whole process would mean changes to the code, but not major changes
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	I thought, after cloning, I'd still be able to take over from the pi, but reachability of that many objects would be poor
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	so I wonder, after changing the code, whether I should make similar versions of the scripts on the server
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	or push to git with those changes apply
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	they cannot run the same on both the pi and the server
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	the words you use show there might be a misconcpetion about ipfs
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	one is a booter of the other
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	the objects are the same, they're assumes so based on the hashes
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	so the more nodes having them in circulation, the better
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	the pi is more relaxed and the home network less busy when ipfs is off
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	the main issue was, where to serve these from?
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	/s/booter/booster
[18:21]	Techrights-sec	I have no clue about how IPFS works.  So my advice, if one could call it that,
[18:21]	Techrights-sec	is unlikely to be informed.  Whatever the internal workings, I would suggest
[18:21]	Techrights-sec	trying to move as much of the core activities as possible to tm-new.
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	processing the files on the server is astonishingly fast
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	like 5-10 faster than the pi
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	and I can see objects reachable again for the first time in about a year
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	if there' a blessing associated with this past tuesday's incidents, this is it
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, let this to me, I'll get this done by the morning I reckon
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	testing can take a few more days
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	another good thing about the incidents is that I can mount the drive again and have automated backups
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	network aspects like iptables or wifi available don't matter much anymore
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	I also fortified the SBC
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	owing to the network capacity stuff you made the script more robust to timeouts and disruption
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	so that's good as well
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes I can throttle it again if gemini causes heavy load
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR	which happened 2 weeks ago (55k reqs a day)
[18:35]	Techrights-sec	nftables would be better ...
[18:35]	Techrights-sec	than iptables if available
[18:35]	Techrights-sec	tc is what does the traffic shaping and that is available to either
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	I think the only thing we lost in the root OS was the addition of the traffic shaping scripts with sudoers
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	but we won't need that anymore if all goes as planned
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	being able to throttle down the pi is still possible by hand, which is good
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	I'll clone the whole OS hopefully this coming week
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	tonight's task will be to change the code to generate you the ipfs bits into homedir on server
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	and to properly update the same on the "old" site
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	this time those objects will actually be accessible
[18:38]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:50]	schestowitz-TR	it resolves several outstanding issues
[18:50]	schestowitz-TR	and makes ipfs viable again (it was a scale issue)
[18:51]	Techrights-sec	ack
● Aug 07
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	740mb now
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	the master copy will be home hosted and ready to roll
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	but the booster and authoritative sources for generating the hashes will be in the DC
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	they will be kept in sync
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	so if one is online the other is still OK
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	I'll figure out the details later and maybe write something about that
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	when the transfer is done I'll change the code and test stuff
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	what I asked earlier is, how to manage two similar codebases
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	without git splitting off into two branches
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	I still don't know how profound the changes might be, maybe I can just "comment out" the bits for local
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	and write those for remote
[19:07]	schestowitz-TR	it might be no more than 10 lines in total
[19:07]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:07]	Techrights-sec	be sure to use similar, but distinct, names for the scripts and such
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	at some point later techrights.org will point to another ip address, so I will use domain name
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	but be aware tomorrow morning I hope you'll have the usual files in your homedir
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	if not tomorrow, later this week
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	ok
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	sometime soon I'd like to rearrange MQTT a little so that it would open the 
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	possibility of maybe adding generic read-only access in the future, at least
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	for some of the 'topics'
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	as alternative to rss like test.mosquitt [sic].org?
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	I assume you get notificed when I add notes to TM-new but don't know if those contain data other than topic
[19:11]	Techrights-sec	
[19:11]	Techrights-sec	yes
[19:11]	Techrights-sec	yep
[19:14]	Techrights-sec	for now, it says only date, time, and "tux machines site updated"
[19:14]	Techrights-sec	it could convey more details, or not           
[19:14]	schestowitz-TR	nice, but...
[19:14]	schestowitz-TR	I wonder what clients exist for that and how widely used they are 
[19:14]	schestowitz-TR	IOW, if this becomes a public API, I doubt many hardcore gnu/linux users will care
[19:15]	Techrights-sec	regardless, it would be helpful to juggle the account names a little
[19:15]	Techrights-sec	Paho used to exist for Python but they eliminated the ability to work with
[19:15]	Techrights-sec	self-signed certificates.
[19:15]	Techrights-sec	I'm not sure any would care, but it's more about the principle of the matter
[19:15]	Techrights-sec	a little renaming now will / could go a long way later
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	yes, it would at least be "innovative"
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	we're ther first site of this kind (scope/topic) with a gemini capsule, that's for sure
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	many other firsts, but it's not a popularity contest
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	the hierarchical nature of the 'topics' could be exploited better for Git 
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	notifications, down to the relevant directory or maybe even file which has 
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	been updated .. perhaps.  Though commits can, and often do, contain multiple
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	file updates, and that presents a puzzle.  That might be overthinking it
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	but at least the usernames for MQTT can be redone to be more informative 
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	so that it is easier to figure out which one is where. 
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	That's not for today but maybe tomorrow or later. 
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	The Git notification over MQTT can and should stay simple.  
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	Yes, and even that seems to be a first.  
[19:21]	Techrights-sec	The level of notification on your end can be kept generic.
[19:21]	schestowitz-TR	it is enough to tell me to run a check, when I am free, to see what changed
[19:21]	schestowitz-TR	anything beyond that would be unwanted distraction from what I do at the time of the alert
[19:21]	schestowitz-TR	until my mind frees up
[19:25]	schestowitz-TR	todo:
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	a) fix ipfs
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	b) resume publication pace (lower priority)
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	c) find more rss feeds if possible (it's vvvvvvweeeeeeewwwy vewwwwy slow this past week), impacting (b)
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	d) back up for better D-R planning (I think the outages won't happen again; they did a massive job there)
[19:27]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	lots of good stuff today in irc logs
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	re uefi
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	I try not to spend too much time on it, but morale-wise it's good to know Microsoft is 
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	really THAT nerous. I see from the inside some staff of MSFT panicking. Many lost a lot of money
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	as their capital was tied to the company's "value"
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	and they are shedding off stuff, anyone can go (person, project, team)
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	other companies don't need Windowes people, so reraining needed
[19:29]	Techrights-sec	they've been in that state for 20 years afaik
[19:29]	Techrights-sec	what's different now is that people know how hard M$ works covertly and overtly
[19:29]	Techrights-sec	to undermine the free market
[19:30]	schestowitz-TR	brb
[19:30]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	brb
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	OK, just checked some Windows and Edge stats
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	I still have 2 msft series going
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	and one upcoming epo
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	august is slow, so I'm in no hurry to finish the material
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	would rather get close to completition of site migration and then fortify what we have
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	if you can, make backups of TR sometimes
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	I see many sites perishing these days (offline, no activity, or webspam "exit startegy")
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	so www-only is not a viable long-term strategy
[19:36]	schestowitz-TR	nor is social control media, lol...
[19:39]	schestowitz-TR	[18:52] <techrights-news> This statement was issued on a Sunday; they've solved none of the underlying issues, they're just gagging those who speak about Debian issues https://www.debian.org/News/2022/20220807
[19:39]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debian.org | Debian -- News -- Ownership of "debian.community" domain
[19:40]	schestowitz-TR	note to self: remind people to adopt system-free distros and remind devs to consider building on devuan 
[19:40]	schestowitz-TR	debian just issued a cocky statement
[19:43]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> Most British COVID-19 mourners suffer PTSD symptoms: survey | News https://news.curtin.edu.au/media-releases/most-british-covid-19-mourners-suffer-ptsd-symptoms-survey/ Source: news | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.curtin.edu.au/media-releases/most-british-covid-19-mourners-suffer-ptsd-symptoms-survey/
[19:44]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.curtin.edu.au | Most British COVID-19 mourners suffer PTSD symptoms: survey | News
[19:45]	Techrights-sec	ack
[19:45]	Techrights-sec	the backups of TR have to take place over SFTP, so I'll have to make alternate 
[19:45]	Techrights-sec	scripts from the ones I have at the moment.  
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	at least the disks are no longer moaning
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	the most important piece of data, as it changes a lot, if the wordpress DB
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	videos I do, in theory, keep locally by virtue of how they are uploaded
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	but the WP DB is countless hours of human effort
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	of many people inc. WBers
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR	we have a commitment to them
[19:49]	Techrights-sec	yes that's very good
[19:50]	schestowitz-TR	just spoke to rianne we'll buy backup hardware in the supermarket tomorrow
[19:50]	schestowitz-TR	they have a section for it
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[19:52]	Techrights-sec	more USB HDs or SSDs?
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[19:54]	schestowitz-TR	not decided yet, maybe both, but also depends on brands and prices
[19:54]	schestowitz-TR	more like usb sticks and sd
[19:54]	schestowitz-TR	the important files are usually on the pi anyway
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	and we have enough external drives for now
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	(off topic people work work 6am to 6pm for nasty companies life in a personal digital disarray... too much time wasted grooming someone else's systems)
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	For now I'd recommend the spinning rust models rather rather than the solid
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	state models.
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	Oh.  Ok.  The USB sticks would be good for mirroring the RPi systems.
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	It appears that mirroring like that is apparently the best practice.
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	RAID 1 is supposedly unlikely to be of any use in the situation where the
[19:57]	Techrights-sec	power goes out and forces unclean shutdowns.  
● Aug 07
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	michael west's site is postging a LOT this monh, I assume it is thriving a shame it focuses most on .AU
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	though sometimes some UK perspective too
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	I don't expect more shutdowns of this kind (there were several as they try to bring the power back up to no avail, with inconsistent voltage too
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	but it's also safer now from evil miss broomstick ... who knocked it over a few times by accident
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	spinning rust now gets a full snapshot of /home every morning at 5:10am 
[20:00]	Techrights-sec	Yes he writes a lot and does good work but only a little ever seems to overlap
[20:00]	Techrights-sec	with TR
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	it's good for daily links, I try to support by linking to his word
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	he seems truly independent  
[20:01]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, former prisoner of murdoch
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	----
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	lessons of the past month:
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	YOU might be OK with economic volatility
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	but OTHERS might not be and it's all connected
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	whether you like it or not
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	Then, disconnecting oneself from others seems the least harmful way forward
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	"crab culture" (trying to drag other crabs down)
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	btw, one client at work now gets amber lights showing on the server SMART issue
[20:05]	Techrights-sec	check the smartctl data
[20:05]	Techrights-sec	if possible
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	we'll need to swap out the whole RAID
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	some of them don't take such stuff into accounbt
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	but at least properly forwarned
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	we moved them to wireguard 
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	they used to pay a FFOOOORTTUNE for some shit company to "support" openvpn for them
[20:05]	schestowitz-TR	it's RIDICULOUS!
[20:06]	schestowitz-TR	not my dept. and I'm on my way out, I hope by year's end
[20:06]	Techrights-sec	ack
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	one client did a migration from djangocms to drupal
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	they always hire on low budget
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	like totally clueless slingers from india 
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	and this time a pair of people in yerevan
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	of course they lost data in the migration
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	again, their problem
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	if they want to keep their data in tact, they'll need to pay
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	that one idiot threw kubernetes on a server just for the "fun" of it
[20:09]	Techrights-sec	yes
[20:09]	Techrights-sec	:(
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	for no purpose whatsoever
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	a live/prod webserver
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	we had to restrict his account and he needed to go through us before installing anything
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	after this kept happening
[20:10]	schestowitz	https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNSNxDGf8uW24qwfnLjXrvXVvHmUMuSgb1HJu756yHhud
[20:10]	schestowitz-TR	850mb
[20:10]	schestowitz-TR	getting there soon, then I can start testing on a "real" thing
[20:10]	schestowitz-TR	not testing the water
[20:12]	Techrights-sec	ack
[20:43]	schestowitz-TR	correcting myself: michael west started REPOSTING from AAP
[20:43]	schestowitz-TR	Those are not stories made by him and colleagues
[20:43]	schestowitz-TR	and, if anything, they can 'dilute' the signal or even "signal an exit strategy"
[20:44]	schestowitz-TR	same thing thgat happenes in truthDig before it died (reprinting trash from AP)
● Aug 07
[21:53]	schestowitz	Gemini Search Results Study, Part 1 gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220807.gmi "This is going to be a fairly brief post that will be further expanded upon in Part 2, which probably won't be published for at least a few days.
[21:54]	schestowitz	"
● Aug 07
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[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	I've temporarily cleared the path to /home/links with 777, until we do groups (needs thinking
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	as I need to get to /home/links/ipfs for IRC files
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	that's on tr-new, not the pi
[22:24]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.it/profesorluis/status/1556246634329264128#m
[22:24]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-profesorluis.port (@profesorluis): "Schools, according to Richard Stallman, are becoming monsters for imposing proprietary software and spying on children http://techrights.org/2021/05/15/richard-stallman-2019-talk/"|nitter.it
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[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	ok, 11pm all done and sorted, expect the files in the above-mentioned path of links, I added some packages like gnu coreutils
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	for date to work properly, I can enhance later from where it stands, resotoring and adding more funtionality
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs has good availability again!