●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 07, 2022 ●● ● Oct 07 [00:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [00:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@dsqxm8cmnsrqe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 07 [01:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3qbj33nmtvs3e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 07 [06:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [06:23] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:03:56 [06:23] Techrights-sec ^ topic ? [06:23] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:07:52 [06:23] Techrights-sec ^ topic ? [06:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022 [06:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022 [06:26] schestowitz-TR thanks [06:26] schestowitz-TR gym brb [06:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u3k8abp3wtrpn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:54] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 07 [07:00] Techrights-sec np [07:01] schestowitz-TR going to go to aldi later, we expect a busy day later [07:01] schestowitz-TR I put down in notes the topics suggested [07:13] schestowitz-TR i do not have data to back this up with [07:13] schestowitz-TR but it 'felt' like tuesday and weds are the busy news day [07:13] schestowitz-TR by thursday it's already slow news day [07:13] schestowitz-TR more so friday [07:13] schestowitz-TR the vulume in the Links files may have affirm this [07:13] schestowitz-TR if split by day of week [07:13] schestowitz-TR then weighed by length of file [07:13] schestowitz-TR then charted [07:13] schestowitz-TR i could do the same with supplementary links (linux-y sites) [07:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:43] Techrights-sec That rather matches my observations too in recent years. Friday through [07:43] Techrights-sec Monday have basically no news. It'd be hard to assess thoroughly because [07:43] Techrights-sec the pages linked to have no uniform way of reading the date, if they even [07:43] Techrights-sec have the date in a machine readable format or if they have the date at all. [07:43] Techrights-sec But perhaps the small subset with machine readable dates could be analyze. [07:43] Techrights-sec d [07:43] Techrights-sec Their presence in our link lists would be too inaccurate since it can [07:43] Techrights-sec take a few days or longer to find them. So landing in the link lists can happen [07:43] Techrights-sec days after actual publication, if not weeks or months. [07:52] schestowitz-TR larabel played a role in the "linuyx breaks your PC" FUD from Microsoft sites [07:52] schestowitz-TR I firts looked at the mailing list message [07:52] schestowitz-TR it's an intel bug by intel [07:52] schestowitz-TR anyway, cliackbait was mentioned here 24 hours ago [07:52] Techrights-sec :( ● Oct 07 [08:01] schestowitz-TR do you find my posts about covid-19 informative or am I wasting my time? :D [08:01] schestowitz-TR that is based on local data, but I noticed the same trend in the US [08:01] Techrights-sec They're informative, confirming what is suspected, but I assume you are writing [08:01] Techrights-sec for a much wider audience. [08:01] Techrights-sec Probably at least a few other countries too [08:18] schestowitz-TR COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/ [08:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October [08:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:22] Techrights-sec So the published data is a month behind, and slipping. [08:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:23] schestowitz-TR better than nothing [08:23] schestowitz-TR but it seems clear that if frequency was based on urgency/deaths, we should still receive daily updates [08:23] schestowitz-TR this is a policial decision [08:23] schestowitz-TR nothing to do with science [08:24] Techrights-sec Yes, it looks like they are doing their utmost to avoid drawing attention to [08:24] Techrights-sec the current situation. Certtainly if no current data is available, it is not [08:24] Techrights-sec even possible to know the current situation. [08:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:28] schestowitz-TR nhs outsourced a lot of the key data not just to OOXML [08:28] schestowitz-TR but to a Microsoft site that's basically JS [08:28] schestowitz-TR which is infuriating [08:51] Techrights-sec That is partially unrelated to SARS-CoV-2, I would say the outsourcing has [08:51] Techrights-sec more to do with certain political agendas to shut down the national /healthcare/ [08:51] Techrights-sec service and replace it with privatization and "insurance" so that more middlemen [08:51] Techrights-sec (several layers in fact) can skim off the money without providing any added [08:51] Techrights-sec value [08:51] schestowitz-TR wait, am working on a good one [08:51] schestowitz-TR 5 ODF files [08:52] Techrights-sec ack [08:52] Techrights-sec Twenty until fifteen years ago, the benefits of open standards were universally [08:52] Techrights-sec known and accepted. Furthermore, they were the direction the world was heading [08:52] Techrights-sec but then everything collapse through the orgy of corruption and lies surrounding [08:52] Techrights-sec OOXML, which by the way no one uses even today, not even m$ itself. [08:52] Techrights-sec OOXML has never been fully defined nor actually implemented by *any* company [08:52] Techrights-sec or organization. ● Oct 07 [09:03] schestowitz-TR In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/ [09:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year [09:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 07 [10:00] schestowitz-TR bbl aldi ● Oct 07 [11:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 07 [12:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:20] Techrights-sec ack [12:25] schestowitz-TR it is difficult for me to comment on FB [12:25] schestowitz-TR rianne was using it when we met [12:25] schestowitz-TR she stopped ~2 after we met [12:25] schestowitz-TR ~2 years [12:25] schestowitz-TR we met in 2011 [12:25] schestowitz-TR I think FB was not AS evil back then [12:25] schestowitz-TR those sites tend to get MORE malicious over time [12:25] schestowitz-TR they are BUSINESSES [12:25] schestowitz-TR YouTube used to be "ok-ish" around 2011 [12:25] Techrights-sec Yes, YouTube was ok even for a few years after the sale. [12:25] Techrights-sec In recent months it is worse than garbage. It makes even Odysee look ok, and [12:25] Techrights-sec that takes some work. :( [12:27] schestowitz-TR both won't work without JS [12:27] schestowitz-TR but that's just the edge of the iceberg [12:27] schestowitz-TR I don't have like... a wiki page with list of reasons to avoid them [12:27] schestowitz-TR it would change over time, hence wiki [12:27] schestowitz-TR let's just say it is not our foremost priority [12:27] schestowitz-TR compared, say, to microsoft layoffs [12:27] schestowitz-TR you said it was in page 1 of startpage [12:27] schestowitz-TR I rarely use search engines and when I do it's searx.be these days [12:30] schestowitz-TR fwiw, there are also good reasons to avoid peertube [12:30] schestowitz-TR and ipfs for video (latency, lag among the downsides) [12:30] schestowitz-TR self-hosting videos might not be cheap [12:30] schestowitz-TR but you don't have to tip-toe like john campbell [12:30] schestowitz-TR he's not a coward, they just blackmail him by saying he would use a decade of much work [12:30] schestowitz-TR if they can squeeze the trigger on him [12:30] schestowitz-TR seems like they already decided he needs to go [12:30] schestowitz-TR they just look for excuses now [12:30] schestowitz-TR he's "bad for business" (sponsors) [12:35] Techrights-sec ack [12:42] schestowitz-TR i keep telling rianne that people she watches in librewolf have a boss called "Google" [12:42] schestowitz-TR and he's a very vicious and demanding boss [12:42] schestowitz-TR \ [12:42] schestowitz-TR I last told her this morning [12:42] schestowitz-TR this boss is never pleased, and he very very very much likes $ [12:42] schestowitz-TR he doesn't even like to pay employees their fair share [12:42] schestowitz-TR and they cannnot express opinions even outside 'work' [12:42] schestowitz-TR he also tracks them around with their "smart" phones [12:42] schestowitz-TR for 'security' [12:42] schestowitz-TR some years ago a worker who producef exercise videos for sweatshop pay rate entered the boss's office and fired [12:42] schestowitz-TR at some workers [12:42] schestowitz-TR but that was before the worse notoriety [12:42] schestowitz-TR google: if you can just not talk about subject x, that would beeee greaaaaat [12:42] schestowitz-TR same for use of words [12:42] schestowitz-TR and how subjects get covered [12:42] schestowitz-TR later they nitpick on who helped produce the video [12:42] schestowitz-TR so tarqie and chomsky and chris hedges are "bad" people [12:42] schestowitz-TR the footage was licensed to RT [12:42] schestowitz-TR *tariq [12:42] schestowitz-TR john campbell became a ransomware victim [12:42] schestowitz-TR he must turn on the camera and tell us "happy stories" [12:42] schestowitz-TR or all his word AND audience will rm -rf / [12:42] schestowitz-TR with no chance to appeal, let alone a platform to complain in [12:43] Techrights-sec ack ● Oct 07 [15:03] schestowitz-TR the name "sam varghese" has just been borrowed to issue about half a dozen spamnil-style 'articles' [15:03] schestowitz-TR and he went along with it [15:06] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:08] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:17] Techrights-sec ack [15:17] Techrights-sec he seems to be getting ground down [15:17] Techrights-sec and hopefully not heading towards selling out [15:17] Techrights-sec I think he is one of the last remaining tech journalists [15:43] schestowitz-TR If only teaching paid more than it does gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/11.2 [15:53] Techrights-sec The budgets for teaching have been slashed for decades with the (so far [15:53] Techrights-sec successful) goal of weakening it. [15:53] Techrights-sec https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/oct/05/reagan-nation-at-risk-education-policy-trump-bush [15:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | It didn't start with Trump: how America came to undervalue teachers | Education | The Guardian [15:54] schestowitz-TR they like to say the "left" welcomes immigrants for their vote [15:54] schestowitz-TR while one party seems to be actively damaging brains in exchange for votes [15:54] schestowitz-TR that seems to work reasonably well for those who plunder the country [15:54] schestowitz-TR while at the same time keeping the population dumb, divided, and voting GOP [15:56] Techrights-sec That is one of the goal, damaged brains and inability to think in order to [15:56] Techrights-sec harvest uninformed votes based on tribe. Another is to have obedient or [15:56] Techrights-sec easily manipluated worker drones that will accept terrible working conditions [15:56] Techrights-sec and terrible pay and without health care, all uncomplainingly ● Oct 07 [16:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:15] schestowitz-TR need ideas [16:15] schestowitz-TR reports say vista 11 market share 2.6% [16:16] schestowitz-TR what can we "add" to that? [16:16] schestowitz-TR (news slow; too slow even for many TM pages, let alone original articles) [16:17] Techrights-sec The rate of change is important. That and how long it has been declining for. [16:17] Techrights-sec Also it is important to point to a way out, even if it is Linux Mint or [16:17] Techrights-sec PeppermintOS [16:17] Techrights-sec There are a fair number of blog posts, but they are very slow to process as [16:17] Techrights-sec is usual. Each writer has their own style so the pith may be anywhere in a [16:17] Techrights-sec long post. [16:17] Techrights-sec Vista11 only has any market share at all because of the Wintel duopoly and [16:17] Techrights-sec the grip (monopoly) has with OEMs. [16:22] Techrights-sec [16:22] Techrights-sec If one could go to big box store in your average city and buy off the shelf [16:22] Techrights-sec a compute with GNU/Linux pre-installed, that'd be the end of Windows [16:22] Techrights-sec It's almost what happened with the Asus EEE. The GNU/Linux versions flew [16:22] Techrights-sec off the shelves, but M$ prevented restocking by pressing Asus to stop with [16:22] Techrights-sec the GNU/Linux version and then people who bought the Windows version mostly [16:22] Techrights-sec returned them so the m$-owned media helped with the FUD by implying that the [16:22] Techrights-sec returns were associated with GNU/Linux even though they were due to the [16:22] Techrights-sec Windows versions. [16:22] Techrights-sec (don't quote any of that, it's written too poorly) [16:22] Techrights-sec You have the Asus EEE links somewhere from years ago. I think they might be [16:22] Techrights-sec ZDNet links even. It's how I recall it, and briefly there were two articles [16:22] Techrights-sec covering that. How do your recollections differ? [16:23] Techrights-sec The Asus EEE (linux version) was a very good netbook and quite affordable. [16:23] Techrights-sec That was another thing, m$ killed the netbook market by constraining the OEMs' [16:23] Techrights-sec abilities to change the specs. [16:27] schestowitz-TR this is now how I remember it [16:27] schestowitz-TR *not how [16:27] schestowitz-TR we have a wiki page with a list of articles [16:27] schestowitz-TR head of osi at the time suggested that I document what had happened like this [16:27] schestowitz-TR there were also microsoftr bribes, negative pricing [16:27] schestowitz-TR but zemlin and the sunshine boyz thank "our diamong sponsor Microsoft" [16:28] schestowitz-TR bribes are a crime [16:33] psydruid I used the Asus EEE with Ubuntu for almost 2 years until the SSD broke [16:33] psydruid after wiping the useless and outdated Windows XP that came with it [16:34] psydruid little did they know that killing the netbook market just made people move to phones and tablets [16:34] psydruid anything to escape Microsoft [16:37] schestowitz-TR Windows has (had also) many real practical issues [16:37] schestowitz-TR bloat (higher specs) [16:37] schestowitz-TR price [16:37] schestowitz-TR stability [16:37] schestowitz-TR among others [16:37] schestowitz-TR you don't hear androiud users saying [16:38] schestowitz-TR "hang on, I need to reboot first" [16:41] Techrights-sec m$ has made the superstition of powercycling and or rebooting the generic [16:41] Techrights-sec ritual response to debugging. ● Oct 07 [18:26] psydruid the US has not just been asserting its dominance in terms of software, but also in terms of hardware [18:26] psydruid now that the cat is out of the bag and a lot more non-US produced hardware is hitting the market, they are crying wolf [18:27] psydruid and Windows is going into the garbage bin of history along with that hardware that isn't being sold anymore [18:35] schestowitz-TR OTA [18:35] schestowitz-TR yes, but they tell us the only alternative is China [18:35] schestowitz-TR rather than nations making their own systems [18:35] schestowitz-TR like India and China do with free ISAs [18:35] schestowitz-TR as if only one nation can be h/w and s/w suppliers [18:36] schestowitz-TR like clown computing, the "client" model [18:36] schestowitz-TR it's the mindset of colonialism and parentalism [18:36] schestowitz-TR Microsoft did this patronising thing to a lot of Africannations [18:36] schestowitz-TR insinuaint they have no engineers [18:37] schestowitz-TR and have no charge of doing ICT without Microsoft's help [18:37] schestowitz-TR they could easily make their own distros and deploy Free sofwtare [18:37] schestowitz-TR they don't need Microsoft [18:37] schestowitz-TR I wrote some responses to this a long time ago [18:37] schestowitz-TR IIRC, in relation to South Africa too ● Oct 07 [19:21] schestowitz-TR if all goes as planned, maybe I'll publish the copyright troll's letter in xmas [19:21] schestowitz-TR draft [19:21] Techrights-sec checking [19:28] Techrights-sec The GPL in and of itself is a clever hack of copyright law and has provided [19:28] Techrights-sec great benefit. LT himself has mentioned many times that very thing and [19:28] Techrights-sec once, right before he got abused, even stated in a video that it was his best [19:28] Techrights-sec decision ever to use the GPLv2. [19:28] schestowitz-TR I will do a later video on uefi secure [sic] boot as gpl evasion [19:28] schestowitz-TR and github as anti-gpl weapon [19:28] schestowitz-TR I've just put this in myh notes as next [topic] [19:28] Techrights-sec Yes, UEFI / restricte boot is a means of license evasion / violation. [19:33] schestowitz-TR ok, done eating for today (still finding discounts) [19:33] schestowitz-TR will clean rss fees [19:33] schestowitz-TR btw, john cambell is tring to spin very bad news as OK or even good news [19:33] schestowitz-TR I guess the boss (Google) wants some positive tone [19:33] schestowitz-TR the clients (advertisers, not HIS) assess the platform for 'accuracy' (cnsistency with the PR) [19:42] Techrights-sec ack [19:59] Techrights-sec Serious question: what would it take for FSF, EFF, and OSI to make any kind [19:59] Techrights-sec of campaign, big or small, to counter Vista12 together? ● Oct 07 [20:00] schestowitz-TR they are not goign to collaborate [20:00] schestowitz-TR eff is to busy promoting shit [20:00] schestowitz-TR osi is fighting SF [20:00] schestowitz-TR and FSF is too afriad to speak out against anything [20:00] Techrights-sec right, negative answers aside, what obstacles could be removed, if the [20:00] Techrights-sec situation were more favorable? [20:04] schestowitz-TR i don't know internal politics, but from what I heard (phipps, lxo etc.) there is a coup and they don't have the power to push it back anymore [20:04] schestowitz-TR and they concedes, which was a mistake [20:04] schestowitz-TR they even did to rms agsinst us (not succefully) what trolls do against dfc [20:04] schestowitz-TR it's just boring ol divide and rule [20:04] schestowitz-TR identify or interject some politics people don't agree on [20:04] schestowitz-TR then cause strife [20:04] schestowitz-TR i'd like to think we're not gullible enough to ever fall for it [20:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@im24he94pn5u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:45] Techrights-sec ack ● Oct 07 [21:26] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:30] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3dfbakv35ftxu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ir6r8ntjse2ha.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 07 [23:18] schestowitz-TR our eye on the friendman leads to various other potential scandal [23:18] schestowitz-TR I think we have a network of leaks and whispers now [23:18] schestowitz-TR to last for a long time [23:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:24] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:35] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell