●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 ●● ● Dec 07 [00:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rtzgjcpns2nzk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:52] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) [00:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [01:02] *altlink_a01 has quit (connection closed) [01:02] *altlink_871 (~altlink_871@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:41] *techrights_guest|12 (~8831dd5e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:52] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [03:03] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:03] *activelow (~activelow@y3asqgyug43my.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [06:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 07 [07:21] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:21] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 07 [08:14] *altlink_871 has quit (connection closed) [08:14] *altlink_b39 (~altlink_b39@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:50] Techrights-sec router maintenance ; approx 30 min [08:50] Techrights-sec maintenance comaintenance completemplete [08:50] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [08:50] schestowitz-TR I am loooking at the code atm [08:50] schestowitz-TR I sent you the gmi files, they seem sane to me [08:50] schestowitz-TR I think if I send those 4 additional files to the same dir, it can cause issues with ipfs workflow [08:50] schestowitz-TR so, I am thinking [08:50] schestowitz-TR how about writing those 4 gmi files directly to the gemini account [08:50] schestowitz-TR and, if so,wqhat dir? [08:50] schestowitz-TR I don't think we need gmi objects in ipfs [08:50] schestowitz-TR also, this would leapfrog the need to hardlink or copy across files, or duplicate files ● Dec 07 [09:13] schestowitz-TR proceeding [09:13] schestowitz-TR created ~/gemini/irc-gmi [09:13] schestowitz-TR this is where I will sed the gmi files [09:13] schestowitz-TR I've also increased open file limit [09:13] schestowitz-TR ipfs is so weird that to add new objects [09:13] schestowitz-TR it basically opens ALL the files [09:13] schestowitz-TR which means 4000 items in ipfs would require keeping 4000 open file when running 'add' [09:13] schestowitz-TR anyway, I will attempt, for the next night, to put gmi files in that new dir [09:13] schestowitz-TR nce it is accomodatyed we'll need to make an index of the files in it [09:13] schestowitz-TR we can kleep in gemini both gmi and txt version [09:18] schestowitz-TR so this basically means on http we have html and text. on gemini gmi and txt [09:23] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:24] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:25] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [10:01] schestowitz-TR tested file transmission, all seems fine, so now we have one daily stack for me to add to index [10:01] schestowitz-TR 1. I made a full copy of the pi's /home so in case of catastrophe reinstating the server is not unsurmountable [10:01] schestowitz-TR 2. I am now tryint to make index for gmi alongside irc txt files [10:01] schestowitz-TR 3. when you are around, it is worth modifying irc tables perl/shell file to link to the gei version [10:01] schestowitz-TR alongside the text version in wordpress blog post. also, maybe add gemini link for daily bellutin [10:04] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@x39g582ik3w9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:06] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [10:06] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@6wdqb2uvvvnfc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:09] *rianne has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@nrg4jd4gc7jje.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [11:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:26] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:27] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [11:29] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@774nwuxzfj494.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:46] schestowitz x https://thehill.com/policy/technology/584520-microsoft-disrupts-chinese-hacking-group-targeting-organizations-in-dozens [11:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | Microsoft disrupts Chinese hacking group targeting organizations in dozens of countries | TheHill ● Dec 07 [12:39] schestowitz I've just done some maintenance of ipfs; it uses up a lot of bandwidth but times out on requests regardless. [12:39] schestowitz [12:39] schestowitz Re IRC: [12:39] schestowitz DONE: add links [12:39] schestowitz DONE: add uploads -> pi only (tested locally, will see if it works OK tonight) [12:39] schestowitz NOT NEEDED: add cron hardlink [12:39] schestowitz DONE: remove "plain text" at 3 levels (we no longer need to say this) [12:39] schestowitz DONE: add to index at gemini (extensive testing needed, esp. when more files get added) [12:39] schestowitz NEXT: [12:39] schestowitz change link in irc blog post? Or add 4 more links, for the gemtext version... [12:39] schestowitz add link to bulletin at gemini:// (alongside www link and ipfs hash) [12:39] schestowitz change link in irc botx4 channels? [12:39] schestowitz I've pushed to git the stuff done so far. ● Dec 07 [13:58] Techrights-sec pulling from Git [13:58] schestowitz-TR uploading a video related to this atm ● Dec 07 [14:01] Techrights-sec yes, next will be to change the links in the newly created pages from .txt to [14:01] Techrights-sec .gmi [14:01] Techrights-sec Which directory have / will the new Gemtext IRC logs been uploaded to? [14:01] schestowitz-TR it is done already, you can see IRC logs for December (in Gemini) [14:02] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) [14:02] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/index.gmi [14:03] schestowitz-TR the video demonstrates this better, eta 10 mins [14:03] Techrights-sec URL? [14:03] Techrights-sec $ find ~/gemini/ -type f -name techrights-2021-12-06techrights-2021-12-06.gmi -print | wc -l [14:03] Techrights-sec [14:05] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/ [14:05] Techrights-sec that's still plain text [14:06] schestowitz-TR maybe you have it cached? There are two sections, the first is "GemText Version" [14:15] Techrights-sec found it [14:15] Techrights-sec akc [14:15] Techrights-sec ack [14:15] schestowitz-TR video published 10 saecs ago [14:15] Techrights-sec these need updating, I'll look into it: [14:15] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/ [14:15] schestowitz-TR i think best to have 4+4 links, 2 section, for text and for gemtext [14:16] schestowitz-TR the bulletin link at the bottom also has a gemini equivalent that we can add. many "geminites" already read techrights, so this helps [14:44] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) ● Dec 07 [15:07] schestowitz-TR on another topic, I minute ago I deleted rms rss feed [15:07] schestowitz-TR for the same reason I did it a decade ago [15:07] schestowitz-TR about 90% of today's links there are bill'a guardian [15:07] schestowitz-TR so it's not good RoI [15:09] Techrights-sec It's too bad that RMS does not see the layers in the sources [15:09] Techrights-sec Too much intrigue there for most people. [15:09] Techrights-sec ack [15:09] schestowitz-TR If I wanted to read bill, I'd sign up for their rss feed, but that gives them traffic [15:09] schestowitz-TR gemini at least gives some inirection so I can glance at headlines [15:10] schestowitz-TR btw, the site I use for that has a very limited selection of non-tech sites syndicated. for that, it's nypost (murdoch) or bill. wish it had reuters or something... [15:18] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@upfyme5tts22e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:21] Techrights-sec My RSS feed list has grown a lot but it is mostly low-yield stuff. [15:21] Techrights-sec Even the best blogs post infrequently. But quality over quantity is important [15:22] schestowitz-TR when there is no flow or low flow of information it gets harder to write and you end up clickbaiting like micro larabel [15:26] Techrights-sec It'd be an interesting academic research project to track all those that [15:26] Techrights-sec got bought out and how/why it happened. But much is probably under NDA [15:26] Techrights-sec and on top of that it must hurt too much to speak of. [15:26] Techrights-sec ... at least if they have any soul left [15:27] schestowitz-TR on the upside, it leaves us with less competition. but back in the days there was TONS of stuff I could write about, now I rely in direct sources for EPO, GitHub etc. because there is barely any reporting at all [15:34] Techrights-sec yes, TR stands out among fewer sites [15:36] schestowitz-TR TM turns 17.5 at midnight [15:36] schestowitz-TR Susan still in touch, still watching, still healthy too (afaik) [15:36] Techrights-sec Excellent [15:36] Techrights-sec The content there is posted before anywhere else as far as I know [15:36] schestowitz-TR yes, speed is VERY importany [15:38] Techrights-sec Excellent. Maybe it 2.5 years there will be a small party [15:38] Techrights-sec at least online [15:38] schestowitz-TR you know, in theory you can convert the TM RSS feed into a dynamic gmi page, which MIGHT be of use to some people [15:50] Techrights-sec Can you elaborate? [15:50] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/ [15:50] Techrights-sec ... produced by the cron script [15:50] Techrights-sec unfortunately because of the directoru change Gemini vs WWW, a small kludge [15:50] Techrights-sec is involved [15:50] schestowitz 1. regarding tuxmachines in gemini, not worth its own capsule, but its updates are rapid and it can have a little section akin to a feed in gemini.tr, I think. Assuming there's "demand" for that... [15:50] schestowitz 2. looking into the changes right now [15:55] Techrights-sec It'd be a lot of trouble in the script and would be double so brittle as now. [15:55] schestowitz-TR can we have both the txt and gmi links? maybe not worth it? it's already there anyway, same for txt over gemini: [15:55] schestowitz-TR // for bulletin [15:55] schestowitz-TR ah OK, so never mind, leave it just as gmi [15:55] schestowitz-TR thegemini pages contain the txt in the indexes anyway [15:55] Techrights-sec thanks [15:58] schestowitz-TR snide remark against LF in Phoronix today, the last paragraph. I hope people wake up and see who they front for before it's too late. The IRC log past midnight (today) contains discussion about the contents of this LF report. Lots of Microsoft crap, almost infuriating ● Dec 07 [16:00] schestowitz-TR the name is the problem. People are led to believe PF is NOT what it actually is [16:00] schestowitz-TR it barely even employs any kernel hackers!!! [16:02] Techrights-sec Most, too many, project wishful thinking onto the LF and have false expectations [16:02] Techrights-sec based on the name. It is not a foundation to advance Linux it is a foundation [16:02] Techrights-sec to advance its members' interests within Linux. That is the inverse of what [16:02] Techrights-sec people generally expect. [16:02] Techrights-sec percentage-wise a negligble amount of the money goes to technology skills [16:02] schestowitz-TR TR did two or more posts about their edX course [16:03] Techrights-sec pushed to Git now [16:03] schestowitz-TR checking [16:05] schestowitz-TR pushed [16:12] schestowitz-TR nhs just called, all fine [16:12] schestowitz-TR I see in my inbox a reply to my formal complaint [16:12] schestowitz-TR I have not opend it yet [16:12] schestowitz-TR as I assume it would be time-consuming to deal with, maybe another blog post [16:12] schestowitz-TR but I know for sure thousands of people suffered like me, 10-20k on the queue the lady said [16:12] Techrights-sec class-action lawsuits are about the only way to deal with misbehaving private [16:12] Techrights-sec companies, lead plaintiff (if victorious) gets a lot but it is also a time sink [16:13] schestowitz-TR btw, gulagtroll deadline has passed, and no communication since [16:15] Techrights-sec should gemtext irc logs repeat the date at the beginning of every new hour [16:15] Techrights-sec or just once at the beginning of each new day? I'm thinking the latter [16:15] Techrights-sec might be better for screen readers and such. [16:15] Techrights-sec The extranous punctuation / pseudo markup can be removed from the gemtext [16:15] Techrights-sec version too [16:16] schestowitz-TR maybe add the hour before the date? [16:17] *altlink_b39 has quit (connection closed) [16:17] *altlink_d9f (~altlink_d9f@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:20] Techrights-sec "Dec 04, at 01 o'clock" ? [16:20] Techrights-sec I'm thinking that since the whole page is for a single day, the date [16:20] Techrights-sec is quite redundant and would be annoying to listen to especially over [16:20] Techrights-sec calm periods in the log [16:21] schestowitz-TR no, this is not an issue because for idle hours it gets omitted anyway [16:22] schestowitz-TR it helps me and others too I assume get a sense of TIME. Like one long block between the bookmarks being a conversation that is active and fast [16:23] schestowitz-TR for clarity, for 'newbs', it might help to include the hour first, e.g. 5:00 date [16:24] Techrights-sec ok I'll put them back [16:59] Techrights-sec another change pushed to Git [16:59] schestowitz-TR I very much like the verbal descriptions. FWIW, yesterday's logs were polluted but lots of nasty stuff from ryan, but after midnight (IIRC) he got much more constructive and on-topic ● Dec 07 [17:04] schestowitz-TR who is this josh duggar dude? [17:04] schestowitz-TR is he important? [17:04] schestowitz-TR when searching for "Linux" news he keeps showing up like a Han Reiser [17:04] schestowitz-TR connecting "Linux" to psedophilia [17:04] schestowitz-TR I never heard of this guy [17:04] schestowitz-TR And I am suspicious about the media's motivations unlkess he is well known [17:11] Techrights-sec no idea, never heard of him [17:11] Techrights-sec the media (via the new fake local news sites) does appear to be up to something [17:11] Techrights-sec malicious, what it is would be hard to guess but maybe lining up their shots [17:11] Techrights-sec to smear FOSS or non-Windows systems in general [17:12] schestowitz-TR seems like a potential smear, wherein freesw users are "pedophiles"... Cimpanu at ZDNet tried to connect Linux/Gentoo to ISIS, and the Microsofters cheered along back then [17:12] Techrights-sec yes something like that [17:13] schestowitz-TR I'll keep the lid (no links) unless it escalates. "Linux partition" associated with "child abuse"... [17:14] Techrights-sec yes, "they" will say anything to disparage GNU.Linux [17:20] schestowitz-TR there is NO way for me to cover this WITHOUT making the harm even worse [17:20] Techrights-sec ack [17:21] schestowitz-TR Media: I don't always mention what OS the subject of the article uses (alongside Windows). But when I do, I make sure the sponsors like that angle... [17:29] Techrights-sec xhtml-log-to-text.pl now polished [17:34] schestowitz-TR yes, I found that comma a tad misleading before and without some fancy unicode that harms the blind I can't think of something more suitable than a tab or two [17:36] Techrights-sec I figure the comma is for screen readers which would put a pause there [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ diff ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl | wc -l [17:37] schestowitz 45 [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/tmp-delme [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ diff ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl | wc -l [17:37] schestowitz 45 [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/tmp-delme [17:37] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl [17:37] schestowitz hopefully no bugs, we've made many changes today [17:39] Techrights-sec yes, there are probably more tweaks [17:39] schestowitz-TR i'm on shift 1-9am the next 3 nights, so will stay awake to intervene if needed ● Dec 07 [18:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@8km4bi263f3k2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:21] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [19:21] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:27] Techrights-sec ack [19:27] Techrights-sec pushed to Git; will let it rest until tomorrow [19:41] schestowitz-TR ty ● Dec 07 [20:35] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kex73ikejf6k4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 07 [21:14] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/20-linux-one-line-commands [21:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | 20 Linux One-Line Commands [21:14] schestowitz " [21:14] schestowitz Linux users love time-saving commands that achieve multiple actions in just one line, and these one-liners are great examples of why the terminal is such a powerful tool. [21:14] schestowitz This article shares 20 one-liners to help streamline your Linux tasks. [21:14] schestowitz " ● Dec 07 [22:15] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:17] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [22:17] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@u3797vt49iaxc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:27] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow)