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[09:28] schestowitz-TR I'm still catching up with many links ● Jun 08 [10:19] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:21] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [10:27] Techrights-sec a while back kaniini mentioned "soon" [10:27] Techrights-sec Is he still ok? [10:28] schestowitz-TR somewhere in canada now, like a nomad [10:34] Techrights-sec ok [10:53] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-i33.jp8.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:53] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:54] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 08 [11:04] schestowitz-TR Nordic Ideal https://www.thenation.com/article/world/finland-sweden-nato/ | Source: The Nation [11:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The End of the Nordic Ideal | The Nation [11:07] schestowitz-TR "The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department has long contended it has no gang problem." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/sheriff-who-claimed-he-would-clean-up-the-los-angeles-sheriffs-department-gang-problem-has-instead-allowed-it-to-thrive/ | Source: Techdirt [11:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sheriff Who Claimed He Would Clean Up The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department Gang Problem Has Instead Allowed It To Thrive | Techdirt [11:07] schestowitz-TR I think "chaos theory" is sometimes used in a non-technical context too [11:16] Techrights-sec ack [11:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pv6wipudzw7wk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:17] schestowitz-TR not exactly on-topic, I know, but over the years I've heard that a society happy and contented enough [11:17] schestowitz-TR would be be so passive and still look to improve [11:17] schestowitz-TR if you worsen things, they tackle the worst aspects first [11:17] schestowitz-TR so things like "royal" family are not the top priority [11:18] Techrights-sec perhaps, that's a common theme in some science fictio genres [11:19] schestowitz-TR a motif is, what are they looking to distract from? [11:19] schestowitz-TR using selective outrage? [11:19] schestowitz-TR then you focus not on what they tell you but on what you insist is more importanyt [11:19] schestowitz-TR not Apple vs Microsoft [11:19] schestowitz-TR but Freedom versus DRM, back doors etc. [11:20] Techrights-sec not just distract from with small distractions but creation of [11:20] Techrights-sec large intractable crises to prevent addressing class and power [11:20] schestowitz-TR those can be connected [11:21] schestowitz-TR so you connect them [11:21] schestowitz-TR and attribute the crises to those with incentive to create them [11:22] Techrights-sec yes and the crises are increasingly international in nature [11:25] schestowitz-TR the media lost interest in "war on terror" [11:25] schestowitz-TR from what I can gather, the bloodbaths continue [11:25] schestowitz-TR when russia invaded georgia,iirc not long after gw had invaded iraq, the outrage was minimal [11:25] schestowitz-TR prior to war on terror there was "cold war" [11:25] schestowitz-TR then ussr became "not so risky" [11:28] schestowitz-TR "As ordinary workers across the United States watched inflation eat away at modest wage gains in 2021" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/report-warns-taxpayer-money-fueling-pandemic-greed-grab-us-ceos | Source: Common Dreams [11:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Report Warns Taxpayer Money Is Fueling 'Pandemic Greed Grab' by US CEOs [11:28] Techrights-sec ack [11:31] schestowitz-TR makes it a tad harder to rebel against the status quo ("the system") [11:31] schestowitz-TR but one can manage [11:31] schestowitz-TR btw, got some compliments on our journalism this morning [11:32] schestowitz-TR soon 34,000 blog posts [11:32] schestowitz-TR tuxmachines 18 this friday [11:32] schestowitz-TR tomorrow a meeting that likely decided, tentatively, what happens next [11:32] schestowitz-TR working 2 nights in a row, than 5 days off, would be a massive improvement [11:32] schestowitz-TR we've managed to skirt most price increases using "life hacks" [11:32] schestowitz-TR riannr might start growing mushrooms soon, or try to... apparently leftover coffee is good for that so she has been collecting [11:32] schestowitz-TR it [11:33] Techrights-sec various grains are better, there are kits to work from but also an enormous [11:33] Techrights-sec wealth of informtion about how to culture and grow various species. If you have [11:33] Techrights-sec space, you can probably do it. I recall reading about it at the time when [11:33] Techrights-sec people figured out how to farm shiitake [11:33] schestowitz-TR as prices increase, incentive to at least try that will grow [11:39] Techrights-sec It might be an interesting hobby [11:39] Techrights-sec The trick is being OCD about keeping all parts of the process sterile [11:40] schestowitz-TR rianne learns this from youtube channels these days [11:40] schestowitz-TR (while youtube lasts...) [11:40] Techrights-sec :/ not necessarily an authoritative source, it would depend very highly on [11:40] Techrights-sec who is actually posting and what their background is [11:46] schestowitz-TR change of topic: [11:46] schestowitz-TR I still check almost every day if raspios (d11) has updares for linux-image or raspberrypi-kernel [11:46] schestowitz-TR because I choose to assume something went wrong with the last one, which should be 5.15.x [11:46] schestowitz-TR and so it falls back onto 5.10.x [11:46] schestowitz-TR which is not fully compatible with some of the other "latest" packages [11:46] schestowitz-TR that's an untested theory [11:46] schestowitz-TR but I did see kernel-related warnings when last booting with a "head" attached [11:46] schestowitz-TR and moreover the USB clone works OK [11:46] schestowitz-TR I've made backups, but to other machines and drive, not the full clonbe [11:46] schestowitz-TR because I don't consider anything outside /home to be in a fine state ATM [11:46] schestowitz-TR in the future I will be even more hesitant to run full system updates [11:46] Techrights-sec ack [11:46] Techrights-sec it's very rare that the ydo [11:53] schestowitz-TR I do not have a spare machine to test updates on [11:53] schestowitz-TR and at the moment rianne's pi is a dedicated work machine or vpn workhorse [11:53] schestowitz-TR don't want to tinker with it [11:53] schestowitz-TR it makes life easier [11:53] schestowitz-TR bear in mind the lack of consolidation means that during third we have THREE phones [11:53] schestowitz-TR landline, ip phone, gulag... [11:53] schestowitz-TR that's "progress" for you [11:53] schestowitz-TR when you put idiots in decision-making positions [11:53] schestowitz-TR I have not checked price and availability of raspi4, but will do so briefly now [11:53] schestowitz-TR curious due to "supply" issues [11:53] schestowitz-TR (my dad thinking china is staging or faking it... to cause issue... [11:53] schestowitz-TR I asked for evidence... he cannot provide any) [11:55] schestowitz https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/raspberry-pi [11:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.pimoroni.com | Raspberry Pi Boards, Kits, HATs, and Accessories - Next Day Delivery - Pimoroni [11:55] schestowitz notice the prices [11:55] schestowitz I think they use bundles to conceal the changes [11:55] Techrights-sec ack [11:57] schestowitz-TR the way I am reading this (some have 1GB of RAM), the prices may or may not have doubled [11:57] schestowitz-TR iot's a good thing we stocked up on needed hardware and spare before this BS period [11:57] schestowitz-TR where you want a simple set of speakers and they offer you one speaker for like 100 pounds ● Jun 08 [12:00] Techrights-sec ack [12:00] Techrights-sec pretty much everything containing an actuall RPi is out of stock, just like [12:00] Techrights-sec everywhere else [12:00] Techrights-sec Ukraine products 70% of the world's neon and that is currently essential for [12:00] Techrights-sec the manufacture of chips [12:02] Techrights-sec :/ [12:04] schestowitz-TR iirc, it was you who passed the link this morning about improvising the manufacturing [12:04] schestowitz-TR I LOLed at the part about them shipping product with chips missing, promising to add them later [12:04] schestowitz-TR I mean, WTF??? How would that actually work? They send someone to your home to "upgrade" with a screwdriver? [12:04] schestowitz-TR I joked about this with rianne [12:04] schestowitz-TR I actually find the whole think amusing rather than sadening [12:04] schestowitz-TR but maybe because atm it feels like misfrotune of others [12:04] schestowitz-TR esp. people who buy "smart" cars [12:04] schestowitz-TR in reality, rich people will find a way around the shortages [12:04] schestowitz-TR and be a "priority clientele" [12:04] schestowitz-TR while prices soar, hurting not them but others [12:06] Techrights-sec the global supply chain has been maneuvered into a position where there [12:06] Techrights-sec are multiple single-point-of-failure junctions and now that several are failing [12:06] Techrights-sec it brings down all computer hardware manufacturing [12:06] Techrights-sec it was just a matter of time given the direction things had been heading [12:08] schestowitz-TR I still need more time to wrap my head around what that means [12:08] schestowitz-TR inc. second-hand/"preowned" markets [12:08] schestowitz-TR from an environmental POV, this has potential for good [12:08] schestowitz-TR we've long hoped air travel would RETURN to being an expensive [12:08] schestowitz-TR luxury [12:08] schestowitz-TR which is really what it ALL ALONG should have been [12:08] schestowitz-TR no more treturn flights for some weekend conference of beach trip [12:08] schestowitz-TR we need a rebellion against work communting, too [12:10] schestowitz-TR iirc, rianne purchased the pi just before the ukraine war and chinese lockdowns [12:10] schestowitz-TR it did not cost much more than the prior price [12:10] schestowitz-TR and the stocks were replenished just days after she had left her email [12:15] schestowitz-TR as I expected, activelow seems to have just returned, but with a new nickname [12:15] schestowitz-TR after causing a channel to go bad by de-registering [12:15] schestowitz-TR like matey, he does not wish to be seen as a returnee [12:15] schestowitz-TR brandon lozza recently came back too, after many years [12:15] schestowitz-TR people come and go, but as long as they're alive and we too are online they [12:15] schestowitz-TR can return at any moment [12:15] schestowitz-TR many people from usenet also suddenly appeaer [12:16] Techrights-sec that kind of stability is an asset [12:17] schestowitz-TR i think olf it as reward for consistency [12:18] Techrights-sec yes ● Jun 08 [13:16] schestowitz-TR activelow has just ragequit again [13:16] schestowitz-TR for us not being as radical [13:16] schestowitz-TR I worry he's getting more extreme over time [13:16] schestowitz-TR and it's hard to get him out of it [13:16] schestowitz-TR isolated and misinformed [13:16] schestowitz-TR I know his real name, I saw it in his code [13:41] schestowitz-TR days ago conde nast, after 5+ yearsd, did a "report" on vault7 leaker [13:41] schestowitz-TR it was ad hominem [13:41] schestowitz-TR schneier linked to it [13:41] schestowitz-TR which does not imply it is good [13:41] schestowitz-TR he linked to a lot of conde nast rubbish these days [13:41] Techrights-sec ok but I have no backround in deradicalization and can only suggest to stand [13:41] Techrights-sec firm against such bullshit; a problem is that such behavior is often used [13:41] Techrights-sec as an excuse to shoehorn CoCs and cenorship [13:41] Techrights-sec Schneier seemed to retire in most ways shortly after he processed the Snowden [13:41] Techrights-sec documents. [13:44] schestowitz-TR wait [13:44] schestowitz-TR did bruce "process" these documents? [13:44] schestowitz-TR I watch that closely at the time [13:44] schestowitz-TR Schnier may have linked to articles [13:44] schestowitz-TR in schneier.org [13:44] schestowitz-TR but I did not see him directly involv ed [13:44] schestowitz-TR ioerror was def. involved [13:44] schestowitz-TR mflee [13:44] schestowitz-TR greenwalf [13:44] schestowitz-TR before omidyar bought greenwald and his associates [13:44] schestowitz-TR then shut them all down [13:44] schestowitz-TR based on some contractual basis [13:44] schestowitz-TR as I understand it [13:44] schestowitz-TR they wrote in protest [13:44] schestowitz-TR and that was the end of that [13:44] schestowitz-TR they vanished along with the material [13:44] Techrights-sec IIRC [13:44] Techrights-sec IIRC he had copies [13:44] Techrights-sec after the big news [13:44] Techrights-sec omidyar bought him to get the papers and 1) put them on ice and 2) act as a [13:44] Techrights-sec honeypot for other whistleblowers [13:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:47] schestowitz-TR Ok, yes, this makes sense [13:47] schestowitz-TR and notice how few WBers come out now with material [13:47] schestowitz-TR the other day I think one of the drone strikes WBers was in IRC [13:47] schestowitz-TR but I am not sure [13:47] schestowitz-TR they confided in me [13:47] schestowitz-TR but there is nothing to write about the subject anymore [13:47] schestowitz-TR because the media stopped particpating [13:47] schestowitz-TR as if the drones just stopped existing or turned into kites [13:51] Techrights-sec ack [13:51] schestowitz-TR it is particularly upsetting to me [13:51] schestowitz-TR in 2012ish-1015 I wrote heavily about drone strikes [13:51] schestowitz-TR it's still in Daily Links [13:51] schestowitz-TR other topics of focus in 2011 onwards were NSA mass surveillance [13:51] schestowitz-TR prior to snoweden [13:51] schestowitz-TR wikileaks was intreumental there [13:51] schestowitz-TR for a number of reasons [13:51] schestowitz-TR in 2015 I decided to stop, I probably still have that piece of paper [13:51] schestowitz-TR I discussed with rianne about how to shift focus [13:51] schestowitz-TR the drone strikes thing reached an impasse [13:51] schestowitz-TR as had happened to debates about sw patents [13:51] schestowitz-TR apropos, crystalmath said in irc we don't write much about freesw [13:51] schestowitz-TR and I showed him fsf had also stopped [13:52] schestowitz-TR and he agrees [13:52] schestowitz-TR freesw as a topic is being cast aside [13:52] schestowitz-TR now it's "hey hi" and "web3" and "somethingverse" and all soerts of totally [13:52] schestowitz-TR ludicrous stuff [13:52] Techrights-sec yes I recall [13:52] Techrights-sec if anyone is supposed to talk up Software Freedom it should be the FSF [13:52] Techrights-sec I've also noticed their neglect of responsiblity there [13:53] schestowitz-TR when LF could move in for the kill against Windows (desktop/laptop) it instead sold out [13:53] schestowitz-TR same thing happened to Novell [13:53] schestowitz-TR one week before the Microsoft deal they got a major OEM to BUNDLE PC with SLED 10 [13:53] schestowitz-TR I linked to that in irc a few days ago [13:54] Techrights-sec yes they were close; same for Canonical, there were over a half dozen golden [13:54] Techrights-sec opportunities to make big sales or at least promote the heck out of their [13:54] Techrights-sec products and services but they let it drop *each* and every time [13:54] Techrights-sec I attributed that to the moles from M$ which Canonical knowingly brought in [13:58] Techrights-sec It has been acting like an anti-Linux Foundation for a long while now [13:58] Techrights-sec and appears to have been infiltrated and fully subverted [13:58] Techrights-sec I don't suppose they still have a charter online for comparison between their [13:58] Techrights-sec stated goals and their current misdeeds? [13:59] schestowitz-TR I actually covered this numerous times [13:59] schestowitz-TR e.g. comparing their mention of "community" in the site over the years, using the wayback machine [13:59] schestowitz-TR more recently I did another kind of comparison [13:59] schestowitz-TR do yolu wwant the url/s? ● Jun 08 [14:01] schestowitz-TR it would not take long to retreieve, hang on... [14:01] schestowitz-TR btw, I sense that when such orgs turn on the "politics mode" it's a defence staretgy [14:01] schestowitz-TR the PR "consultants" tell them it can associate legit critics with "bigots" [14:01] schestowitz-TR "I am SOOOO tol;erant, WHY are you attacking me? [sob]" [14:01] Techrights-sec ok [14:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/08/03/no-more-community-in-lf/ [14:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | How the Linux Foundation Devolved From Community-Centric to Microsoft (in GitHub) Projects | Techrights [14:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ [14:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights [14:11] Techrights-sec https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/ [14:11] Techrights-sec changed back in 2016 or so [14:11] Techrights-sec https://www.information-age.com/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board-123460821/ [14:11] Techrights-sec interesting possibility [14:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Bylaws - Linux Foundation [14:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.information-age.com | Linux Foundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board - Information Age [14:12] schestowitz-TR how much time apart from Microsoft sellout? [14:12] schestowitz-TR Maybe there was a request associated with that move [14:12] schestowitz-TR and it was fulfilled? [14:12] schestowitz-TR around that time OSI was also getting like 90%+ corporate funded [14:12] schestowitz-TR now it is like 97%, based on 2020 filing, probably higher by now [14:12] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/ [14:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft Joins, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights [14:12] schestowitz see the image [14:12] schestowitz pay close attention [14:15] Techrights-sec yes [14:17] Techrights-sec I see. (normally I ignore the images) [14:17] Techrights-sec The M$ mole also is allowed to shill there too [14:17] Techrights-sec that's kind of old and hard to find but there was a lot of talk about [14:17] Techrights-sec the removal of the community seats as a move to preemptively block Sandler [14:17] Techrights-sec and other pro-GPL people from even having a chance at winning a seat. [14:17] schestowitz-TR can you research for any concrete links between the microsoft "loves" Linnux (Foundation) move [14:17] schestowitz-TR and the removal of ksandler among other moved? [14:17] schestowitz-TR *moves [14:17] schestowitz-TR sheela zemlin's employment history does not coincide with that year in particular (I have checked already; years ago) [14:17] schestowitz-TR spouses are not off-limit, ask Tim Bray [14:19] Techrights-sec Tim Bray has been toeing the line in recent years though, it seems his [14:19] Techrights-sec memory is not long in that regard or that they finally did find a way to [14:19] Techrights-sec get to him [14:19] Techrights-sec It'd probably take 30 minutes of searching to find his old blog post about [14:19] Techrights-sec how M$ went after first him and then his wife's company [14:19] schestowitz-TR I can get that in 20 seconds or less [14:19] schestowitz-TR "life is complicated" was the title and we have a wiki page for that attack pattern [14:24] Techrights-sec I just tried and even a fairly narrow search turned up nothing not even [14:24] Techrights-sec his blog [14:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_Retribution_against_individuals_and_organisations [14:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Retribution against individuals and organisations - Techrights [14:24] schestowitz http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/01/24/Mixup [14:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring. [14:28] Techrights-sec ack [14:34] schestowitz-TR it would be INVALUABLE if we could prove [14:34] schestowitz-TR that there ere further strings attacked to MS-LF [14:34] schestowitz-TR or... if someone sent us a tip [14:34] schestowitz-TR like we got many re shithub [14:34] schestowitz-TR one single source can do infinite damage [14:34] schestowitz-TR like ed snowden [14:34] schestowitz-TR before omidyar shat on his "stash" [14:34] schestowitz-TR (snowden did not keep copies himself, it was not safe) [14:34] schestowitz-TR he even handed over his own laptop [14:34] Techrights-sec no it was not safe for him to keep anything [14:34] Techrights-sec probably quite a bit [14:34] schestowitz-TR we do not knowhow much data was on Assange's laptop and other electronic devices [14:34] schestowitz-TR when those were seized b surposed and handed over to the US [14:34] schestowitz-TR probably lots of stuff in there [14:34] schestowitz-TR pro tip: if they take away your shaving kit, act fast :/ [14:34] schestowitz-TR they might be preparing you for "the role" [14:35] schestowitz-TR typecasting [14:36] Techrights-sec yep [14:36] Techrights-sec and they intentionally roughed him up on the way out so that he'd struggle and [14:36] Techrights-sec protest [14:36] Techrights-sec visibly for the waiting cameras [14:36] Techrights-sec perhaps not dissimilar to the military-like raid on Kim Dotcom and the camera [14:36] Techrights-sec crews which were given a headsup [14:38] schestowitz-TR Kim (on record): "hey had a knee to my neck" (or chin) [14:38] schestowitz-TR *they [14:38] schestowitz-TR life-threatening position [14:38] schestowitz-TR that was before Chauvin [14:41] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA [14:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom Police Raid Video Released - Invidious [14:42] schestowitz-TR a good strategy is not just to record before entry [14:42] schestowitz-TR but have a femalke as alibo/eyewitness [14:42] schestowitz-TR they get a bad "press" for roughening up women [14:42] schestowitz-TR and so they are less likely to do some things [14:42] schestowitz-TR but more importantly, you need evidence that you were obedient and polite [14:42] schestowitz-TR when it is therir word against yours [14:43] schestowitz-TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA [14:43] schestowitz-TR towards the end of the video Kim explained what FBI did simultaneously [14:43] schestowitz-TR in the background [14:43] schestowitz-TR It would take longer to get the parts about them physically assaulting him [14:43] schestowitz-TR afaik, there was either no footage or only the state shields footage of that [14:43] schestowitz-TR that was an "OTR" thing [14:44] Techrights-sec * or chins :/ [14:44] Techrights-sec ack [14:47] Techrights-sec raids like that are not about solving a problem but about show of force and [14:47] Techrights-sec having a large chance that some fatal "mistake" might happen with the handling [14:47] Techrights-sec of the victim / target [14:47] schestowitz last 5 seconds of https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mmObwguVmEI [14:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom - The RAID - Invidious [14:48] Techrights-sec and as mentioned he has not done anything different AFAIK from the other [14:48] Techrights-sec "cloud" services [14:54] Techrights-sec the gate was unlocked yet they jumped over it [14:54] Techrights-sec if only they could raid microsofters that way and be rid of the cybersecurity [14:54] Techrights-sec disaster in a mattetr of hours [14:56] schestowitz-TR you and I know how "the system" works and why [14:56] schestowitz-TR I try my best to not challenge the limits too much [14:56] schestowitz-TR so I can carry on another 20 years [14:56] schestowitz-TR 'doping' = credibility loss for short-term boost [14:56] Techrights-sec yep [14:56] schestowitz-TR or doing questionable things that can get you in trouble with some laws [14:56] schestowitz-TR people will try to do both regardless [14:56] schestowitz-TR SLAPP [14:56] schestowitz-TR ad hominem [14:56] schestowitz-TR but that does not mean you should make it easier for them [14:58] schestowitz-TR roughening people up, with physical force or words (provocation, threats) [14:58] schestowitz-TR is one way to lower their rational instincts [14:58] schestowitz-TR and invoke inpulsive actions [14:58] schestowitz-TR I can think of several people this was done to [14:58] schestowitz-TR and helped discredit them [14:58] schestowitz-TR the ad hominem conde nast piece that bruce schneier linked to I did not need to read past the summary [14:58] schestowitz-TR the summar made it clear it was a distraction and typical motivation questioning [14:59] Techrights-sec ack [14:59] schestowitz-TR I used to treat Bruce with respect [14:59] schestowitz-TR now it's scepticism [14:59] schestowitz-TR if noit "ol' fart" cycnicism [14:59] schestowitz-TR same as for SJVN ● Jun 08 [15:00] Techrights-sec Bruce deflated rather suddenly but had so much respect from the community that [15:00] Techrights-sec it took a long time for people to accept that he is gone in practice [15:01] schestowitz-TR maybe some time soon he'll get "bored" and pull a "guido de icaza" [15:01] Techrights-sec I'm still wondering what they did to Durusau over ODF and open standards [15:01] schestowitz-TR he is in twitter [15:03] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/channel/UCXj2fUcGQk4xbjp8qRudQyA [15:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Patrick Durusau - Invidious [15:03] schestowitz-TR here too, recent [15:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/06/22/durusau-and-coekaerts/ [15:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Apparently Did a Patrick Durusau on Wim Coekaerts to Broaden Its Control Over GNU/Linux | Techrights [15:09] Techrights-sec ack [15:20] schestowitz-TR microsoft is the worst [15:20] schestowitz-TR but I saw other companies, to a lesser degree, doing the same to CS labs [15:20] schestowitz-TR Gulag, Intel.. [15:20] schestowitz-TR their goal is not to advance teaching or research [15:20] schestowitz-TR their money is not a "support" [15:20] schestowitz-TR sorry, it is [15:20] schestowitz-TR but not for the schools but to themselves [15:20] schestowitz-TR this is an issue politicians won't tackle [15:20] schestowitz-TR because like those schools they're owned by corporatism [15:20] schestowitz-TR and they too get "donations" [15:20] schestowitz-TR like Microbell Larabel [15:20] schestowitz-TR they are "slaves" [15:20] schestowitz-TR of the "masters" [15:20] schestowitz-TR which play political PR games [15:20] schestowitz-TR and say those words are obscene [15:20] schestowitz-TR as they might cause an emotional reaction [15:20] schestowitz-TR apropos, see the latest post from norbert prenning [15:20] schestowitz-TR I saw tghat video uyears ago [15:20] schestowitz-TR interesting he would bring it up now all of a sudden [15:20] schestowitz-TR I know he has spoken to daniel p lately [15:20] Techrights-sec ack [15:20] Techrights-sec rough video, but not far off [15:21] schestowitz-TR maybe the video is a bit ahead of its time [15:21] schestowitz-TR it was very popular a couple of years ago [15:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:29] schestowitz-TR I was about to create symlinks for ~gemini so that the Daily IRC Logs do not have a broken URI/L in "Local copy" and "Enter the [15:29] schestowitz-TR IRC channels now" [15:29] schestowitz-TR but the former, not the latter, is a tricker one [15:29] schestowitz-TR *trickier [15:29] schestowitz-TR and I reckon cobbling together something in perl for this particular post "type" would be simpler [15:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:34] Techrights-sec probably easier in perl [15:36] schestowitz-TR "The word chaos is understood as meaning disorder and confusion, and when it flourishes, it becomes increasingly difficult" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/chaos-or-community-2/ | Source: Counter Punch [15:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Chaos or Community - CounterPunch.org [15:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:39] schestowitz-TR just chedked what a fraud scamnil became [15:39] schestowitz-TR but unwilling to do any more screenshots, as it would give him more limelight than he deserves [15:39] schestowitz-TR but he's scamming companies [15:39] schestowitz-TR they deserve to know [15:39] schestowitz-TR LF is complicity in it [15:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:46] Techrights-sec checking [15:46] Techrights-sec currently the following is generated: [15:46] Techrights-sec => /irc-channel/ Enter the IRC channels now [15:46] Techrights-sec what should be there instead? [15:46] schestowitz-TR I think /about [15:47] schestowitz-TR where it has details about accessing IRC [15:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 08 [16:04] schestowitz-TR Not good/disturbing trend here: courier does not knock on door, instead putting through the door a slip that [16:04] schestowitz-TR says the parcel is INSIDE THE BIN! You can easily have it thrown away into a landfill. Lazy approach of nihilists, pushed throu [16:04] schestowitz-TR gh with "cost-cutting" approaches... [16:04] schestowitz-TR Dear UK couriers, the BIN is NOT a mail box. It's not secure and periodically it gets emptied into garbage tr [16:04] schestowitz-TR ucks. People pay shipping fees for a service, not for you to dump objects of value into BINS. Worse yet, this practice will enc [16:04] schestowitz-TR ourage petty thieves to go through your trash, making a mess in pursuit of treasures. This is the new "key under the doormat" l [16:04] schestowitz-TR unacy. [16:04] schestowitz-TR all those f*ers [16:04] schestowitz-TR had to do was knock on the f*ing door [16:04] schestowitz-TR both rianne and I had our headphones off for this [16:04] schestowitz-TR and I only knew they came because I heard the mouth of the door opening for the slip [16:06] schestowitz-TR "technological advancement" = bezos et al playing treeasure hunt with things you paid for [16:44] schestowitz-TR Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into Peoples Trashcans https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/08/bins-are-not-mailboxes/ [16:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into Peoples Trashcans ● Jun 08 [17:23] Techrights-sec technically they are discarding the package they were supposed to have delivered [17:23] Techrights-sec and falsely claimed to have delivered: committing fraud [17:23] Techrights-sec and or facilitating theft [17:23] schestowitz-TR ack [17:23] schestowitz-TR ota [17:40] schestowitz-TR ota [17:40] schestowitz-TR it was about llf [17:40] schestowitz-TR typing it up now [17:49] Techrights-sec ack [17:49] Techrights-sec did you file a business complaint against the delivery company for [17:49] Techrights-sec discarding your package while lying about having delivered it? [17:49] Techrights-sec ^business complaint with the government [17:50] schestowitz-TR royal mail is the gov. [17:50] schestowitz-TR it would go nowehere [17:50] schestowitz-TR they would make up "convincing" excuses [17:50] schestowitz-TR it's like filing a coc complaints about the coc committee [17:51] Techrights-sec is there an ombudsman in a different branch that would be covering that topic? [17:51] schestowitz-TR ombudsman is our former client [17:51] schestowitz-TR and it does not yield much results [17:51] schestowitz-TR it's slow, too [17:52] Techrights-sec the point is to get the fraud registered and monitored not necessaril instant [17:52] Techrights-sec satisfaction or justice [17:53] schestowitz-TR i'd rather speak of the issue and let others chanse this [17:53] schestowitz-TR I spent a long time last year complaining about a "medical" "services" company [17:53] schestowitz-TR it got results, but took a lot of energy [17:53] schestowitz-TR brb typing re lf [17:53] schestowitz-TR will have draft soon, then move on to the next video [17:53] schestowitz-TR riannt took charge of tm [17:53] Techrights-sec ack [17:54] schestowitz-TR i have no wine anymore, but we have vodka in case tomorrow I free up time by sem--retiring [17:54] Techrights-sec log out from root before tippling ● Jun 08 [18:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u6frqcve4gb94.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:49] Techrights-sec ack [18:49] Techrights-sec 1980s? [18:49] schestowitz-TR draft [18:49] schestowitz-TR wow, I found so many typos that it is embarassing [18:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:54] schestowitz-TR ota new epo stuff [18:54] schestowitz-TR ota ● Jun 08 [19:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [19:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 08 [21:57] schestowitz-TR GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.ht GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.htmlml [21:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.ht