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| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://www.networkworld.com/article/3565432/how-to-decipher-linux-release-info.html">How to decipher Linux release info</a></h5> | Jul 08 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3565432/how-to-decipher-linux-release-info.html">How ) | Jul 08 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Jul 08 08:10 |
| schestowitz | <p>There’s a lot more to identifying a Linux release than citing a simple version number. Even a quick look at the output from the uname command can tell you that. What is all of that information, and what does it tell you? </p> | Jul 08 08:10 |
| schestowitz | <p> In this post, we’ll take a closer look at the output from the uname command along with release descriptions provided by some other commands and files. </p></blockquote></li> | Jul 08 08:10 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/672963/ | Jul 08 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lwn.net | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes [LWN.net] | Jul 08 13:27 | |
| schestowitz | old, some of it needs archiving | Jul 08 13:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Nice to see some "class" from Zemlin on the topic of community behaviour. | Jul 08 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Now all we need is some focus on why various member companies of the Linux Foundation seem to routinely violate the licensing of the work featured in the foundation's own name, and why an organisation supposedly acting in the interests of that work does little or nothing obvious in public about it. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 26, 2016 21:59 UTC (Tue) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, he dodged the question really well. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | I find it frustrating that the zealots who managed to derail the conversation about the LF getting rid of community representation into a gender-based discussion essentially gave Jim a great way of 'addressing' the situation without saying anything material on the matter. How it is even remotely relevant whether a lawyer who's part of a lawsuit against one of the members of the Linux Foundation AND is potentially running for the | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | board has a dick or not escapes me entirely but Jim obviously jumped on the opportunity it gave him to talk about what would otherwise have been an important topic. I wasn't even aware of this part of the conversation until he brought it up (and I'd rather continued to be oblivious of it, I'm ashamed enough as it is for my community's (foss') behavior towards minorities). | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 22, 2016 15:46 UTC (Fri) by pheldens (guest, #19366) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | It's good they kept the social justice warriors out. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | http://voxday.blogspot.nl/2016/01/no-sjws-allowed.html | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Attacks on PHP and Ruby pending. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-voxday.blogspot.com | Vox Popoli: No SJWs allowed | Jul 08 13:28 | |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 22, 2016 15:58 UTC (Fri) by andrewsh (subscriber, #71043) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | By which you mean what exactly? | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 22, 2016 16:07 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | The citation of a blog post by that man provides enough evidence that pheldens is not really worth listening to. (And said blog post provides, as usual, evidence of stunning levels of ignorance regarding the LF, the influence Linus has over it, Linus's stated position on women's rights, and oh hell everything else ever. But that's not surprising: the poster's principal domain of knowledge is in the fine art of being horrible to | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | people for not acknowledging his manifest greatness and stirring up mud. I note that 'changing the rules to keep them out' is something his father attempted, too, only he was trying to keep out the taxman.) | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 25, 2016 8:23 UTC (Mon) by oldtomas (guest, #72579) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, nix (and indirectly pheldens) for calling attention to that. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Usually the mention "sjw" is enough for my internal spam filter to kick in, but thanks to nix, I followed the links. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Wow. What a sordid, sad existence. I'm an old guy myself, and somehow thought we've left Freud's century and its castration anxieties. Just wow. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Learnt something new. Disturbing, admittedly. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 31, 2016 9:28 UTC (Sun) by gerv (guest, #3376) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Not read the blog post, have no idea who "that man" is, but: | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | The citation of a blog post by that man provides enough evidence that pheldens is not really worth listening to. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | could be used in a textbook as a classic example of the genetic fallacy. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Feb 10, 2016 20:09 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Yes, except that he's approvingly citing a blog post by someone who believes that women should be denied the vote, who advocates the extermination of the populations of entire continents (seriously!)... this provides evidence that either the OP has done astonishingly little research (reading the comments on that post or looking at any surrounding posts would suffice) or that he thinks positions such as Theodore Beale holds to be | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | unexceptionable. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Both positions are damning. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Posted Feb 10, 2016 20:46 UTC (Wed) by zlynx (subscriber, #2285) [Link] | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | You're still using a fallacy. A couple of them, even. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Other beliefs held don't show anything about the particular subject being discussed. Someone can be wrong about ten things but still right about five others. | Jul 08 13:28 |
| schestowitz | The other fallacy is that because you don't like the results of a particular argument that the logic is wrong. For example "women should be denied the vote" is probably (I haven't read his argument) the result of some facts and logic. Just saying that you don't like the end-result of his argument doesn't invalidate it. You'd have to actually find the flaw in it. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | And not related to fallacies, I often find that arguments with crazy results are what happens when someone very smart and clever is messing around with you, such as the quite logical sounding "proof" that 1+1=3, for large enough values of 1. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Posted Mar 2, 2016 14:06 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Honestly, a five second google would show you the blog posts in which "Vox Day" endeavours to show why women should be denied the vote (I don't recommend reading them, they leave a foul taste in your mouth). His argument is not based on logical reasoning or facts of any sort (no, I'm not linking to the guy, nor am I reiterating his "arguments", they're too unpleasant to type in and I don't want to inflict them on anyone else here). | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | His extreme racism and eliminationism seems unlikely to be based on logic either, but frankly I couldn't get into reading those without hearing my ancestors metaphorically screaming at me so I had to stop. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | This is not someone who thrives on rational argumentation. His blog is, alas, publically visible, so you're welcome to confirm that by reading it. I don't plan to, not any more. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | (And the expressed opinions of and beliefs held by an individual *do* very much show the likelihood of correctness of further opinions and beliefs. The single largest predictor that a person will believe in any given conspiracy theory is whether they believe in other conspiracy theories. This is even true for mutually contradictory ones, such as that Elvis was killed by the CIA and that Elvis is still alive. Vox Day's expressed | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | opinions and beliefs are repugnant and based on fear, hatred, and a desire for self-aggrandizement[1]: that strongly suggests that any statement he makes should be considered wrong or at the very least self-serving unless multiply confirmed by other sources.) | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | [1] honestly, this is someone who set up a slate for the Hugo Awards nominations last year and put *himself* on it multiple times, and filled up the remaining slots with people published by his tiny publishing house. "Shameless" doesn't even *begin* to cover it. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 22, 2016 16:19 UTC (Fri) by amk (subscriber, #19) [Link] | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | I will save dmarti the trouble and re-post a comment of his on the previous news items on this topic. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | ============== | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | It's somewhat hard to find, but there is an LWN comment filtering feature. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Go to | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/MyAccount/ | Jul 08 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lwn.net | Not logged in [LWN.net] | Jul 08 13:29 | |
| schestowitz | Scroll down to the "Comment filtering" section and click "Edit filtering", then make with the "Add user to filters" form. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 27, 2016 0:55 UTC (Wed) by weaselkeeper (guest, #74881) [Link] | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | The antics of the SJWs are getting annoying. Coding is about coding, not what genetalia you have, or how well or poorly you tan. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Show me the code should be the only criteria. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Posted Jan 27, 2016 8:33 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Show me the code should be the only criteria. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | I don't think anyone disagrees that code incorporated into the Linux kernel (or other important open-source software product) should meet certain quality standards. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | However, people who can actually code to those standards don't tend to fall fully-formed out of the sky. There are loads of work to be done, and there is a huge untapped reservoir of people who are, in principle, willing to contribute but can't be bothered, for reasons like the toxic atmosphere they're likely to encounter in case their contributions might be found sub-standard (whether they actually are or not). With appropriate | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | training and mentoring, many of these people could become productive members of the open-source development community, and we all win. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | There are people like Karen Sandler who are part of the effort to establish and promote initiatives that provide such training and mentoring to various groups of folks. This effort should be commended. Defaming such people as “SJWs” doesn't help anyone except the egos of those doing the defamation. | Jul 08 13:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 13:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/b_cavello/status/1280869155487416320 | Jul 08 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@b_cavello: @tuxmachines @schestowitz @linuxfoundation What is this referencing? | Jul 08 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ursmkj/status/1280854037814898691 | Jul 08 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ursmkj: @schestowitz Hello What's the Official Twitter id of Montana Tourism dept😊? | Jul 08 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FemAnon1312/status/1280834666799550475 | Jul 08 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FemAnon1312: He has to blame someone for his failings and it will not be in effect until July 2021. Trump is the one who did not… https://t.co/T5zAsAppYD | Jul 08 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FemAnon1312: He has to blame someone for his failings and it will not be in effect until July 2021. Trump is the one who did not… https://t.co/T5zAsAppYD | Jul 08 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | "He has to blame someone for his failings and it will not be in effect until July 2021. Trump is the one who did not act but he takes no responsibility for anything. He does not care whether you live or die, supporter or not...though he should because he will need votes"\ | Jul 08 21:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FemAnon1312/status/1280832609409536001 | Jul 08 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FemAnon1312: @schestowitz The War on Logic could explain most things occurring | Jul 08 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rajanitjja/status/1280822938950828034 | Jul 08 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rajanitjja: @schestowitz Yes. Ofcourse we believe the New York Times. | Jul 08 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1280799538899492864 | Jul 08 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Farunhofer's "MP3 is dead" propaganda was just so that the money flows in their pocket for the next codec. | Jul 08 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/n0v0id/status/1280775448209874944 | Jul 08 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@n0v0id: Interesting to see how people are suffering from wrong #PIM decisions. This time: open browser tabs instead of todo… https://t.co/Kett8VdRid | Jul 08 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@n0v0id: Interesting to see how people are suffering from wrong #PIM decisions. This time: open browser tabs instead of todo… https://t.co/Kett8VdRid | Jul 08 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Interesting to see how people are suffering from wrong #PIM decisions. This time: open browser tabs instead of todos. | Jul 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | By using the latter, you'd have reminders, notes, status, meta-data,... right from the start without reimplementing stuff in browsers. | Jul 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | "\ | Jul 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/1280682867144765442 | Jul 08 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz For perspective, that's a daily death toll in which every three days #COVID19 is kills about as many Americans as died in 9/11. | Jul 08 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | "For perspective, that's a daily death toll in which every three days #COVID19 is kills about as many Americans as died in 9/11." | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jlboul/status/1280661948858802177 | Jul 08 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: Well, he wants to open schools this fall because the little ones, he says, are not as vulnerable to Covid-19. No sc… https://t.co/FD2GdNFWdE | Jul 08 21:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: Well, he wants to open schools this fall because the little ones, he says, are not as vulnerable to Covid-19. No sc… https://t.co/FD2GdNFWdE | Jul 08 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Well, he wants to open schools this fall because the little ones, he says, are not as vulnerable to Covid-19. No scientific evidence re teachers as carriers, or others in building, or other teachers & staff discussed by him. | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Face with rolling eyes | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheJigisUp10/status/1280630149755461632 | Jul 08 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: #QAnons #QArmy #QAnon2020 #pizzagatelsreal #pedogate2020 #BillGatesIsEvil #novaccines #InformedConsent #metoo… https://t.co/Ar3VNYsA3o | Jul 08 21:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: #QAnons #QArmy #QAnon2020 #pizzagatelsreal #pedogate2020 #BillGatesIsEvil #novaccines #InformedConsent #metoo… https://t.co/Ar3VNYsA3o | Jul 08 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | #QAnons #QArmy #QAnon2020 #pizzagatelsreal #pedogate2020 #BillGatesIsEvil #novaccines #InformedConsent #metoo | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | #trafficking @realDonaldTrump | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @GenFlynn | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @GeorgieBC | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @larrynichols1 | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @arobach | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | @RonanFarrow | Jul 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | "\https://pleroma.site/notice/9wsiTNRekhIqFTvnXM | Jul 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | "they are not modifying the kernel though. they intercept system calls. i wonder what gave them that idea? https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-cache-poisoning/" | Jul 08 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:00 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-cache-poisoning/ ) | Jul 08 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wsTN2mf9t1t7SHM0G | Jul 08 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Good to know you do stand by the quality of your media sources." | Jul 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wsMuRNO2w6HGgQxrk | Jul 08 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Hope they get the death penalty. 💅"\ | Jul 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9ws0lHhwQUDjgTHF44 | Jul 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " just going to point out you don't have to use the js frontend, there's a CLI one for pleroma" | Jul 08 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wrnRXea8DlXwXxf2e | Jul 08 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | her majesty has a lot more power than you might think. | Jul 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | just came up in jamaica this week, apparently even | Jul 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wrmPQS3pysJ4cX29o | Jul 08 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Hm, didn't the CDC recently announce that COVID19 is on the cusp of being a Non-Epidemic?" | Jul 08 22:02 |
| schestowitz | It's becoming extinct in some places | Jul 08 22:02 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wrQxX91GIVugYU4dE | Jul 08 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Putin and his clique need the same treatment that the Czar got." | Jul 08 22:02 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9wqpCZST94QJwlKCSu | Jul 08 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jul 08 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | "this may be a lesson of why never to put someone's name on an invention. never know when cancellation will include the product." | Jul 08 22:02 |
| schestowitz | [17:30] <XN72> Hi I saw an article about WIPO which was issues in 2017 | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:30] <XN72> about Fransis Gurry, WIPO DG | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:30] <XN72> i have evidence about Gurry and his administration covering up sexual harassment and assault at WIPO | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:30] <XN72> and about brutal retaliation against the victim | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:31] <XN72> i also have evidence of WIPO member states being well informed about the case and ignored the request to investigate WIPO administration | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:32] <XN72> http://www.innercitypress.com/ungate1gutsexabusewipoicp061820.html | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:32] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.innercitypress.com | UN Sexual Abuse By Guterres Spreads to ICAO WIPO and UNOPS Amid Ban on Press Asking | Jul 08 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.innercitypress.com | UN Sexual Abuse By Guterres Spreads to ICAO WIPO and UNOPS Amid Ban on Press Asking | Jul 08 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | [17:32] <XN72> Some info van be found on this web site | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:32] <XN72> let me know if you are interested in reporting the case details | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:33] <XN72> the evidence is available in writing | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Fransis not spelled right | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | and lots of typos | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | ILO looked into it | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | upon second assessment, I am not sure it's worth ursuing | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | pursuing | Jul 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | we don't even know UN and WIPO affairs well enough to assess what's false and why | Jul 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.innercitypress.com/un1google021408.html | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | " UNITED NATIONS, February 14 -- Google, after being publicly questioned at the UN about not signing on to the human rights and anti-censorship principles of the Global Compact, responded not by joining the Compact and foreswearing from censorship but by moving to de-list from its Google News service the media organization which raised the question. More than two years after Inner City Press was included into Google News, in a | Jul 08 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.innercitypress.com | Inner City Press -- Investigative Reporting from the UN | Jul 08 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | February 8 message referring to the receipt of a complaint, Google said it would be removing Inner City Press from the news database." | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | In late 2007, Google's chief technologist Michael T. Jones took questions at a UN press conference with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and UN Development Program chief Kemal Dervis promoting Google's involvement in mapping the UN's anti-poverty Millennium Development Goals. Inner City Press, accredited media at the UN, asked Mr. Jones if Google was a member of the UN Global Compact, through which corporations sign up to | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | principles of human rights including non-censorship. Video here, from Minute 30:21. | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Google's Jones at first delayed answering the questions, noting that Google was the third of Inner City Press' three questions -- the first two were to the UN Development Program's Kemal Dervis about the absence of North Korea from the data base, the second to Cisco about censorship. Then, on camera, Jones said he did not know of Google was a member of the UN Global Compact, that he would reply later. Video here, from | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Minute 32:37. | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | " Google's Sergey Brin and Larry Page have each been quoted dodging the question of Google's participation in the Chinese government's censorship of the Internet, saying only that Google contacted Beijing and came to an understanding. It now appears that after getting a taste of censorship in China -- and in Egypt, by some accounts -- Google has in this case brought the practice home to the United States." | Jul 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Google's Sergey Brin and Larry Page have each been quoted dodging the question of Google's participation in the Chinese government's censorship of the Internet, saying only that Google contacted Beijing and came to an understanding. It now appears that after getting a taste of censorship in China -- and in Egypt, by some accounts -- Google has in this case brought the practice home to the United States. | Jul 08 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | > What should we do about TLS? I think it is important to deal with that | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > this month. Shall we schedule time to deal with the mess a massive | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > update would require? HV still has the corrupted sudoers. | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | I agree. I think we're only grateful for good uptime at the moment, but lots of updating is to be done. For TLS kaniini plans to move the site into 3 containers (one for each CMS), then throw TLS in front of it at a higher level, fronting for the containers. | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | sudoers is a pain, but let's wait until something breaks as fixing it requires taking the whole HV down anyway and we can use that as a chance to apply s/w updates at the HM. | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > PS. I am back into Thunderbird again but Gmail seems to be locking me | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > out. What assholes. | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | *People who use | Jul 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > PS. I am back into Thunderbird again but Gmail seems to be locking me | Jul 08 23:22 |
| schestowitz | > out. What assholes. | Jul 08 23:22 |
| schestowitz | People who use PGP are of no "business value" to them. Good luck. | Jul 08 23:22 |
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