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| schestowitz | Re: Paul Allen, Nicole Junkermann, and Jeffrey Epstein | Aug 08 07:34 |
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| schestowitz | > https://vocal.media/theSwamp/the-epstein-associate-nobody-s-talking-about-the-idf-linked-bond-girl-infiltrating-the-uk-nhs | Aug 08 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-vocal.media | The Epstein Associate Nobody's Talking About: The IDF-Linked Bond Girl Infiltrating the UK NHS | Aug 08 07:34 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | someone sent this to me | Aug 08 07:34 |
| schestowitz | Re: Woke up. Bored. Decided to start some shit. | Aug 08 07:46 |
| schestowitz | > https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1291738949782667264?s=21 | Aug 08 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: From being blacklisted by powerful monopolies for being rightfully critical of them to being their stenographer. Ev… https://t.co/kyTDmyHZmm | Aug 08 07:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: From being blacklisted by powerful monopolies for being rightfully critical of them to being their stenographer. Ev… https://t.co/kyTDmyHZmm | Aug 08 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 07:46 |
| schestowitz | > 🤣 | Aug 08 07:46 |
| schestowitz | > Sent from my iPhone | Aug 08 07:46 |
| schestowitz | I will mention this in a bit... | Aug 08 07:46 |
| schestowitz | >Re: Fwd: WordPress 5.5 is coming. Is your site ready? | Aug 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I am aware. | Aug 08 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > Please check my weblog. I am getting a distortion on all my devices. The | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > monthly *Calendar* to access a certain date is out of proportion, so | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > much so that it is blocking text in the article alongside. Last night | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > it was fine. | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > I checked the text size setting in “accessibility;” it was at a | Aug 08 07:55 |
| schestowitz | > moderate size. | Aug 08 07:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 07:56 |
| schestowitz | > Any other suggestions? | Aug 08 07:56 |
| schestowitz | My guess is that something you posted is causing this. See if unpublishing or changing the data of some recent post corrects this. | Aug 08 07:56 |
| schestowitz | "Re: Did you have a chance to see the problem?" | Aug 08 07:56 |
| schestowitz | https://helpcenter.qodeinteractive.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002249678-How-To-Fix-Overlapping-Of-The-Menu-Items | Aug 08 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-helpcenter.qodeinteractive.com | How To Fix Overlapping Of The Menu Items – Qode Help Center | Aug 08 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | Re: Alert! Need help. A problem On all my devices | Aug 08 07:57 |
| schestowitz | > The *_calendar_* on the Home Page (with today’s posts) is too large and | Aug 08 07:57 |
| schestowitz | > overlaps the article. | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | > I have checked for oversized pictures and a couple of other things but | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | > cannot isolate any particular recent article that is the cause. It was | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | > all O.K. late last night. | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | Mark as "draft" recent posts and see what happens... | Aug 08 07:58 |
| schestowitz | > [apologies for missing context] | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > Not fair to criticize it based on something you posted only in July | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > noted. i just woke up so id need a couple minutes at least, to piece | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > together exactly what youre referring to, but i get what youre saying. | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > GeoffK is no saint in the Church of Emacs, indeed, but he and Odile | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > had nearly unanimous support, including RMS and myself. | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > also noted, and a fair point. though rms also supports the fsf, and i | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > have given up on it. the reasons are several, but most of all they arent | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > fighting the fight for the user anymore. i stand by that, very strongly. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > however, it is still relevant that he has the support of rms. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > Both are rms supporters, so his support base is now much stronger. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > But we needed someone with a relationship and trust from the other | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > side to pacify the organization and try to get us working on the | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > original goals (that he subscribes to), instead of against each other. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > i get what youre saying. ive already said this, and if i say it again it | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > might sound like im not listening, but im being literal and so trying to | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > convey the exact opposite of that. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > I think Geoff is a good person to carry that out, in spite of being | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > no saint. Pacification takes a different set of skills. I hope he | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > can even set the stage for RMS to return to the board. Please give | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > him the chance they didn't give me. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > im really not capable of trusting anybody at the fsf at this point-- id | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > be more comfortable with you as president (than geoff) but if i really | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > trusted you we would talk more. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > rms, i credit with genius and integrity and i dont think i could ever | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > change my mind about either, but i cant shake the feeling that hes being | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > gullible about things. i dont mean about geoff. i get the feeling geoff | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > is a compromise, though for some reason i dont think hes a liar. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > whether rms-led, alex-oliva-led or geoff-led, even if aliens landed and | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > geoff was suddenly made ambassador to jupiter, handing the reins back to | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > president rms next week-- the fsf just seems to be going more "open" (in | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > terms of effects, regardless of license) and more driven by sponsors. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > the relationship the fsf wants with people is one where they do the | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > listening, and the fsf doesnt change for the better. | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > most of all, my position about rms is not that he resigned, but that he | Aug 08 08:52 |
| schestowitz | > was pushed to resign under largely (not entirely) false pretenses, most | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > unfairly. my article about how i would have supported the coup under | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > very different (for one, honest-- for another, less vicious) | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > circumstances (ill paste it here) applies. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > it doesnt bother me that rms isnt president PER SE-- the fact that they | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > betrayed him matters. the fsf could have DONALD TRUMP as president, | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > provided that the job the fsf was doing (despite him) was alright. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > i just dont believe that the fsf is fighting for us. likely there are | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > PEOPLE IN the fsf fighting for us, but (for another Office reference) | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > its like dwight steering the boat on the booze cruise-- its not a real | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > wheel theyre steering. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > if we cant blame the coup for that, we can only blame a drift in | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > priorities away from the task in hand-- or just as likely, a firm | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > footing in the same place while the problem theyre fighting slips | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > further from their reach-- but not just in terms of success, but in | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > terms of its methodology. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > what happened to rms was unfair and dishonest-- it should have been | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > neither of those. he IS the founder of the movement and he definitely | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > deserves better. he has earned a legacy that is nearly the opposite of | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > the recent narrative. and he deserves (as the founder) to have a VOICE | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > in his own fucking movement. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > WE deserve for HIM to have that. so if geoff can help fix that, good for | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > him, honestly. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > with that said, gnu is drifting towards microsofts clutches, and the gnu | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > maintainers do not care. we have an fsf president with a github account | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > (is that what you were referring to?) and a new board member with a | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > github account. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > both are "arctic code vault" contributors on github. i only know a | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > little about that, but it seems to be between the long now foundation | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > (meh) and github is probably co-opting it, im not sure. | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > i dont think the FSF takes these problems seriously, and it isnt about | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > sainthood. as i wrote in the new book: | Aug 08 08:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > "People make this stuff out to be purity arguments. "How many ways can | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > your freedom be compromised?" isnt putting aside a purity argument for | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > purity, its making a petty argument for compromise at your expense. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > *Never wanting to be sold out (also, not selling out users) isnt about | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > "purity" or piety, its about integrity."* | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > as the queen-of-england-like symbolic "head" of the gnu project with no | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > ability to exercise power, the gnu maintainer parliament runs amuck over | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > his warnings and drags the gnu project wherever they would like it to go. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > i argued last year why the gnu project should remain top-down even if | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > the rest of the free software movement does not. *instead they are doing | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > to gnu EXACTLY what was done to libreplanet*, which started this whole | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > coup (and made it possible for roy and i to predict the rest) | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > dont let the new president (this holds if rms was there) keep you from | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > knowing what "they" will do with him. they will do with geoff exactly | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > what they did with rms. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > theyll convince him that the best foot forward is more compromise, and | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > use him as a pawn. i dont care how strong-willed people think he is, the | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > position of president is on the wrong end of a lever. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > but regardless of his intentions, personal feelings or mission, the fsf | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > will continue its path-- with or without rms, with or without a good | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > president-- thats the bigger problem here. and nothing but nothing is | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > showing on my radar to convince me otherwise. results, not faith. theres | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > ZERO place left for faith. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > we can take 100 steps, 100 chances to believe. screw that, we will be | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > the ones who save free software. the fsf cant (more importantly, WONT) | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > save itself. | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > *the coup article (dont feel a need to read it, its there)* | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > *Chapter 13: I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > Circumstances) | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > *I was not involved in the coup against rms, though I would have | Aug 08 08:54 |
| schestowitz | > participated in it-- if it had been very different in its nature. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > I will outline a better coup here, which is close to what I originally | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > called for and much farther from what happened instead. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > The coup took most people by surprise, including me. The one Id proposed | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > was as much of a rhetorical device as anything. Its true that I | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > predicted rms being ousted, though it happened much sooner (and it was | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > much dirtier in its tactics) than I had thought likely. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > The coup I would have liked would have two primary objectives: | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > 1. Choose / Acclimate a successor for rms (this was a goal of mine) | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > 2. Get the FSF to listen to its members | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > In hindsight, this coup was somewhat pointless because: | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > 1. It wasnt my intention to choose a successor, but rather to let | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > everyone already in charge do so. My list of suggestions included the | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > person (Alex Oliva) who actually stands in place of rms now. It also | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > included some other people on the board. It did NOT include John | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > Sullivan, who I have long said was too middle-of-the-road for a leader, | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > but good for the position he already had. In light of the years events, | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > I retract the latter part of the statement. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > 2. The FSF has never cared what its members think, and now it never | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > will. The idea of getting the FSF to listen to its members was a naive | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > fantasy. These days, the FSF only listens to money-- and only to big | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > money at that. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > 3. Corporations did it first. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > Techrights has traced the FSFs "love of money" all the way back to 2014. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > Its interesting to note that 2014 is also the year when I stopped | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > believing in Debian-- and the year that I have long considered the point | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > or past the point of "Peak Freedom" in terms of software. | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > Other important differences between my plan and their coup include: | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > 1. I would have supported a coup that was Honest, which existed | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > primarily to help the FSF, not primarily to screw over and devastate rms. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > 2. The only goal regarding rms was to get him to step down (even | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > gradually) as FSF president-- not to be silenced as a speaker, not to be | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > removed from GNU, not to resign from the board. The way it was done | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > instead was completely asinine, unless the goal was to do harm to the | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > FSF and the movement. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > 3. It would have protected the legacy of the FSF, including that of its | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > founder. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > And here is what happened instead: | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > The coup was completely dishonest, and was NOT against only rms. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > The coup was (as I predicted nearly a year before it happened) against | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > both rms and his supporters-- against the Free Software movement itself, | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > and designed to weaken its position against monopolies that dont care | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > about your freedom. It has done exactly this. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > It has removed rms (with NO GOOD REASON) from the board of directors, | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > which in my opinion makes the remaining board itself illegitimate, | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > fraudulent and next to useless. Any action from a board which loses its | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > most prominent founding member under false pretenses is not worth taking | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > seriously-- nor is the organisation. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > The fraudulent reorganisation and actions taken in bad faith have put | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > the FSF go against its own mission, and in practical terms have turned | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > the FSF itself into a scam, asking for money to support a cause which | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > the new organisation has itself worked to dismantle. Throwing money at | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > corruption fixes nothing. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > If that work was over and being reversed, that would be one thing. But | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > that is not what has happened. | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > Between what did happen and what I proposed, one commonality is that | Aug 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > Alex Oliva was one of the people I thought might manage to lead the FSF | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > in good faith-- someone who understands the movement and its founder. | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > As he is a former employee of IBM, I had mixed feelings about that-- but | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > I still think he is probably closer to the founder than anybody else who | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > might take over, and if my plan had been implemented it would have most | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > likely led to Oliva being chosen as the new president. | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > I wanted someone who was not afraid to speak out (and Oliva has indeed | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > spoken out about the coup) because speaking out is something free | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > software must do, and if the president cant do that then the | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > organisation is impotent. Instead of being made president however, the | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > FSF chose to make Oliva one of TWO VPs-- right, just like Michael and | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > Jim in The Office. If you need a sign to let you know just how fake the | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > "new" FSF is, this wasnt the one that convinced me though it ought to be | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > enough. | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > Plans to remove rms arent a new thing-- rms has long stood in the way of | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > corporate hegemony. The Open Source Initiative has long worked to co-opt | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > Free Software, to the point where their own co-founder resigned in | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > protest of them doing so: | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/02/msg01641.html | Aug 08 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.debian.org | It's Time to Talk About Free Software Again | Aug 08 08:57 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > After the coup, OSI co-founder Bruce Perens mentioned that OSI had its | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > own plan many years ago to depose rms, but that he never supported it. I | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > would note the similarities between the old plan (because looking back, | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > parts of it were clearly deployed) and the more recent one. | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > All versions of this plan involve creating new rules and stressing new | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > priorities for free software that just happen to cut rms and his | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > supporters out of the picture. To give a quick breakdown of events over | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > the past couple years, this theme is easy to illustrate: | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > = December 2018 = | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > A petition was created during or after LibrePlanet 2018 (an FSF-hosted | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > and FSF-organised event) caling for rms to be held to LibrePlanets safe | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > space rules. | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > No matter what the rules are called, conflating a lack of "safety" with | Aug 08 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > whether the host organisations own president is allowed to override the | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > emcee to make a comment or ask the speaker a question is exactly the | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > sort of inflexible, zero-tolerance stupidity that makes reasonable | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > people hate these sorts of rules. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > This is supposed to be a meeting of "hackers"-- people who change the | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > world in clever ways. LibrePlanet does this group of revolutionary | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > thinkers no justice. If they simply dealt with real problems and serious | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > disruptions when they arose, nobody would think much of it. Instead, | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > they want a set of rules that guarantees absurd overreactions and puts | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > those over handling disruption in a way that is sane, constructive or | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > reasonable. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Since this happened a year before the rest of the events, it would be | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > reasonable to treat it as separate from the coup. However, the themes in | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > common (a year is also not really very long as far as political | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > strategies are concerned) are more than enough cause to include this-- | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > without it, some context is missed. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > = September 2019 = | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > The coup swings into gear, with reactions to comments rms made on the | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > MIT CSAIL mailing list. Since then he has been DEFENDED by prominent | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > feminists, activists and even the former (and female) head of the ACLU, | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > but this has not stopped people from implying that rms is a misogynist | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > and defender of pedophiles, including Jeffrey Epstein (he never did | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > defend Epstein, quite the contrary). | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > One of the pieces of "evidence" circulated online against rms was a | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > photo of his MIT office door, where someone else had scribbled a joke | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > about women, which rms removed. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > The executive director of GNOME (who had also signed the LibrePlanet | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > petition) used the GNOME blog to attack rms in light of these events. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > The Software Freedom Conservancy issued a statement calling for his | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > resignation. | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Stallman "voluntarily" resigns on Sept 16, less than a week after people | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > called for him to. Based on what Ive been told, I believe the | Aug 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > information he was given leading to him stepping down was not given in | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > good faith. RMS DID NOT NEED TO RESIGN either when or how he did-- he | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > was scammed out of his position, and with that everyone supporting the | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > FSF was scammed. | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > = Late 2019, duration unknown = | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > The FSF mailing list was censored to remove or even prevent statements | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > that supported rms after his resignation. | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > = September 2019 = | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > Stallman.org is defaced to make it look like rms has resigned from the | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > GNU project. | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > = October 2019 = | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > Developers from Guix and the GNU project (also an FSF staff member and a | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > former FSF staff member) call for rms to resign as head of the GNU | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > project. I find their opportunism and timing disgusting and I note the | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > number of corporate employees and sympathisers with monopolistic | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > companies (including IBM, Microsoft and Google) who were involved with this. | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > = Late 2019 and/or early 2020, Ongoing = | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > The GNU wiki hosts a call for a "social contract" for the GNU project, | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > not unlike the safe space rules that led to the LibrePlanet petition, | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > with a list of supporters / endorsements that overlaps mostly with the | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > list of people on the Guix petition. | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > This coup did not start in response to events in September, it used | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > every opportunity it had to latch onto the smallest and most | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > insignificant drama as justification (the questions and comments rms | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > made at LibrePlanet were not controversial, apart than stating his right | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > as FSF president to make them, rather than letting the emcee dictate to | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > him) and even when the FSF had already lost rms from his position as | Aug 08 08:59 |
| schestowitz | > well as the board, the traitors demanded to strip him as well as | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > supporters of even more. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > The FSF is not a functional organisation, it is being sabotaged from the | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > outside and within, and the people responsible have not ceased to | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > undermine the founder as well as the community. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Whats more is that (as Techrights has argued in great detail over the | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > past 10-11 months since the resignation) a lot of what happened was | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > based on distortions and lies that have not been rectified. RMS was not | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > merely deposed, he was assassinated. Absolutely nothing has happened to | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > resolve the corruption, apart from Oliva saying that it was in fact | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > dishonest and a coup. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > RMS says he is still the head of the GNU project and to support the FSF, | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > but the FSF is a corrupt organisation that lies to its members. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Supporting it is not the solution in light of all we know. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Support free software, not the FSF which dismantled itself in an attack | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > on its own mission. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Support rms-- not the traitors who assassinated him. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Support GNU-- but know that some of the projects are run by traitors, | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > who dont care about your freedom. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > If you are new to all this, perhaps youre thinking "Why would I support | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > a movement that has elements as dysfunctional as this?" | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Thats a perfectly reasonable question. If you feel that way, definitely | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > DO NOT give any money (time is one thing-- people will give time to | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > their own television, I dont think giving it to free software is likely | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > worse) to the FSF or even to free software until you are more | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > comfortable with doing so. Im very selective about that myself. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > The reason I would recommend you support free software is that the | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > alternative is worse, and free software (as a movement) is still good. | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, it has a few too many people working against it, but it has had | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > that for years. The FSF (including rms himself) failed to protect us or | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > itself from this coup-- the narrative constantly (and either erroneously | Aug 08 09:00 |
| schestowitz | > or dishonestly) is written as though this happened solely to rms. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > It happened to the FSF, it happened to the new VP, it happened to the | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > board, the GNU project and all the people who have given time and money | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > to these things. This was a great fraud and a terrible scam. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > The best possible response is to rebuild free software in a way that | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > does justice to its core principles (particularly the Free Software | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > Definition) both in rhetoric (as the FSF cloyingly soundbites these | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > days) and in practice (as the FSF does not) as well as justice to its | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > history, including the legacy of its founder. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > No, I did not support the rms assassination. As it happened, the whole | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > thing is a giant lie and a terrible injustice, and those responsible are | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > traitors to free software. Those who support them are either just as bad | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > if they know better, or manipulated to under false pretenses and by | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > outright lies. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > The movement deserves far better than these scoundrels. If you trust the | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > people that did this, they will (continue to) do the same to you. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > As to what to do about those who are both within and against the | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > movement, the previous chapter still holds-- we need more people, more | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > autonomy-- and as Oliva called it one article of his, a "New Dawn" for | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > this movement. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > Free Software itself-- founded by Richard Stallman-- was a shock to all | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > narcissist developers and monopolists. Now that they have taken control | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > of the movement that affronted them, the best way forward is to | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > rejuvenate both our defenses and the good work we can do-- and to work | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > (to reroute) around the projects that continue to sell us out to monopolies. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe nobody really wanted this position, not someone with clout anyway... | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > im told that hes on the good side, but imo it doesnt matter-- rms is on the good side, and he is only being used at this point. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > i wish to support rms, without joining him in being used. thats why i dont follow his advice even though i will fight for him to have a voice. as the founder he deserves to be heard out fairly by supporters of free software, even if he recommends things we (at least i) no longer support. if nothing else, if we make a bad move we can say "well, rms did warn us." but the reasons he deserves to be heard are simply a matter of | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | integrity and fairness, they may also have "practical" (or strategically beneficial-- warnings of his, etc) value at this stage. but even if they dont, he deserves a lot better. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Peter Brown would have been more suitable. | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Re: Strategy | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > You-know always appeals to me to let them quietly rebuild, but there is | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > no indication that they are going to rebuild anything beyond exactly | Aug 08 09:01 |
| schestowitz | > what failed 1-5 years ago. | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > The fact that they feel a need to do it quietly only implies that it is | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > so precarious in the first place-- but I haven't ruled out the | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > possibility that they are simply buying time. | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > *When a person you can trust gives a stupid and pointless idea, it is | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > possible they got it from someone who they mistakenly think they can | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > trust, who we cannot.* To me this describes several things that have | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > already happened, and I can't help thinking "they're suckering you | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > again, you know that right?" I don't mean me, I mean people keep | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > promising CHANGE over there. But the people making the promises can't | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > promise anything. They really want to! | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > *If they can't openly rebuild*, they are only proving that they remain | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > under a ridiculous siege. And they still aren't listening, so we are | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > supposed to just "hang tight" and wait for it. | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > No, to be fair, they said the opposite of that part once. But it's all | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > BS in my opinion, even when they send someone to deliver it who believes | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > it. The time for trust is long past. Just do it. | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > You wrote: | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > _it doesnt bother me that rms isnt president PER SE-- the fact that they | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > betrayed him matters. the fsf could have DONALD TRUMP as president, | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > provided that the job the fsf was doing (despite him) was alright._ | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent distinction. Trust is central to any movement. More | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > important than money, by far. | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > _simply buying time._ | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > Time is of the essence: first the nearest hour, then the successive | Aug 08 09:02 |
| schestowitz | > hours, then more time after that... and so on and on. | Aug 08 09:02 |
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| schestowitz | = | Aug 08 12:37 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.deccanherald.com/business/serum-institute-ties-up-with-gates-foundation-gavi-for-covid-19-vaccine-at-3-per-dose-870603.html | Aug 08 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.deccanherald.com | Serum Institute ties up with Gates Foundation, Gavi for Covid-19 vaccine at $3 per dose | Deccan Herald | Aug 08 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | Criminal #billgates is already profiteering from #covid19 and people are asked by media that he bribed to thank him for it | Aug 08 12:38 |
| schestowitz | https://mastodon.social/@phryk/104592464071723653 | Aug 08 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social | phryk✅: "A thing I wish more people in IT would understand…" - Mastodon | Aug 08 12:39 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3570388/why-apple-must-accelerate-its-digital-health-product-development.html | Aug 08 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | Why Apple must accelerate its digital health product development | Computerworld | Aug 08 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agargmd/status/1292063097742647296 | Aug 08 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agargmd: @schestowitz Favorite beach: Fuck It. | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PredatoryDenier/status/1292021542512209920 | Aug 08 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PredatoryDenier: @schestowitz Exactly, but try telling that to a Hillary voter. | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ParisCritical/status/1292013321823170560 | Aug 08 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ParisCritical: @schestowitz https://t.co/yCYN1zvGQR | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | PICT Voices #10: Iain Mackenzie, Critique in a World of Control - YouTube | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schrepfler/status/1292007056170418176 | Aug 08 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schrepfler: @bagder @schestowitz It’s a bot. | Aug 08 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | it's not | Aug 08 17:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1291998950946492418 | Aug 08 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: #Strandedassets https://t.co/h1IjhnFXmu | Aug 08 17:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Independent #Energy ☞ #Climate crisis: World’s largest coal mine sees value slashed by £1.4bn amid surge… https://t.co/yNshGmiseV | Aug 08 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OCorral29/status/1291993249431748610 | Aug 08 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OCorral29: @schestowitz “Trump's attempts to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation” https://t.co/VLkJhys51d | Aug 08 17:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OCorral29: @schestowitz “Trump's attempts to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation” https://t.co/VLkJhys51d | Aug 08 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bagder/status/1291854801697898496 | Aug 08 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bagder: @schestowitz exactly how would that benefit me, you or any curl developers or users of curl? | Aug 08 17:46 | |
| schestowitz | project autonomy and not dependence on proprietary software and network effect monopoly of abusive company. Read http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | Aug 08 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoft’s Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | Aug 08 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbonifaz/status/1291840631770427398 | Aug 08 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rbonifaz: Interesante un asistente de voz libre, podría ser una alternativa a las de Google, Apple y Amazon. Un asistente de… https://t.co/SMWtISubc7 | Aug 08 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rbonifaz: Interesante un asistente de voz libre, podría ser una alternativa a las de Google, Apple y Amazon. Un asistente de… https://t.co/SMWtISubc7 | Aug 08 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | Interesante un asistente de voz libre, podría ser una alternativa a las de Google, Apple y Amazon. Un asistente de voz que no espíe suena interesante."" | Aug 08 17:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AdamSalt_Dev/status/1291831261510721540 | Aug 08 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xv0Hfb1q70tGCI8jA | Aug 08 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:50 | |
| schestowitz | "So accused of being a monopoly, big tech simply acquires more and makes the monopoly bigger and reducing user freedom and choices further." | Aug 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xuxApNqkgQRj4AnHE | Aug 08 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Astonishing, Record-Breaking Gains Continue across the Greenland Ice Sheet | Aug 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | https://electroverse.net/astonishing-record-breaking-gains-continue-across-the-greenland-ice-sheet/ | Aug 08 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-electroverse.net | Astonishing, Record-Breaking Gains Continue across the Greenland Ice Sheet - MSM Silent - Electroverse | Aug 08 17:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xuPSfqVYTEsuquqLQ | Aug 08 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:51 | |
| schestowitz | "People are for fun now. DOS is dead as a daily driver and smartcom is non-existent along with message units and 1200 Baud connections. I personally prefer making gzipped tarballs before seeding private trackers and figure everyone should either fly UNIX or brave the waters using WinRAR, if they must 🤡" | Aug 08 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xuJb7nIvbnqBi410y | Aug 08 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | politics | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz They're worried about appearing biased so they're now effectively holding non-conservative pages to a higher standard than conservative pages?? Sounds kinda... what's the word?... when you show favoritism or preference towards one thing over others... 🤔 | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Fake 'balance' | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xuF59tVBYwNcLSrmS | Aug 08 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | "I don't believe that everybody who met Epstein was raping women." | Aug 08 17:52 |
| schestowitz | That's not the point; many knew what he had been doing and still chose to associate with that. | Aug 08 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xsQeR386YsU8f4VyC | Aug 08 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Micorsoft lobbies has enough say already | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xsQ51CQDtUBpYWvZY | Aug 08 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | "cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ad0KP5EvpU 🙂 " | Aug 08 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | EEVblog #1028 - What's All This PC/104 Stuff Anyhow? - YouTube | Aug 08 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xsFmzqNWcmAs8zGpE | Aug 08 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Westpac bank in Australia has decided to decided to phase out accepting cash by the end of this year! It will likely be the first high street bank to be cashless." | Aug 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | \https://pleroma.site/notice/9xs4QB2pH07Fw5erfk | Aug 08 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "#ff @schestowitz" | Aug 08 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xrapAPlksjOb4ODYm | Aug 08 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | " i said the same about 8 years ago when they introduced the whole javascript bloat, stopping it from functioning on my dumb phone. The editor was changed to be 'more reactive'. Ajax and soap were trending back then." | Aug 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xraT4Tz864bpPpEvY | Aug 08 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | "solution is simple! A lot of money is paid to use msoffice. Envigle msft to fix it!" | Aug 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xrNaLyvAVJ8iuRCPQ | Aug 08 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | "yeah I just don't fancy the packaging method (shipping a shell binary and other bins to avoid relying on the host tools, but then you have to trust the bins…)" | Aug 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xrMb6FF3xeqFgrbYO | Aug 08 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | "This is fascism. Have to give that to Jordan Peterson, he saw it coming." | Aug 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xr5iUSNk9fM9Nwq2q | Aug 08 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | "The only way to truly live off the grid is to be self sufficient and produce everything yourself. We live in a digital age and cash will eventually go away because then it can’t be easily laundered."\ | Aug 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xr5aa6oqRGhMc5hPE | Aug 08 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | "I guess I’m not fully following your concerns. I mean, I enjoy privacy as well but I also know that the conveniences of society come at a cost to us all. Your government already knows who you are and where you are. Not having a bank account won’t prevent that. Also, private companies will always be driven by profit and expense reduction. It might not be beneficial for all customers but you’re probably in the minority. It’s | Aug 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | just the world we live in now." | Aug 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | " just the world we live in now" is a very weak argument for anything | Aug 08 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | "That means he sponsored some project on GitHub, not that he gave money to Microsoft ("GitHub does not charge fees for GitHub Sponsors. We cover payment processing costs, so one-hundred percent of your sponsorship goes to the developers and organizations you fund.")." | Aug 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | This may change over time (cf. paypal) | Aug 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xpbxldKyIfPz3TsRs | Aug 08 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | "gpl would prevent this and people would still be free to sell it for however much they want." | Aug 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xpWJTKd69FNrrhH4i | Aug 08 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | "they are trolling" | Aug 08 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I tried for a long time to get WSL into my workflow and it just really hasn't been viable for me. | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Now that I think about it. I don't actually know anyone who uses WSL for more than messing around. | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xpOQOTik47hD1jrrE | Aug 08 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | "what would free software have done differently? Zoom has more lockdown features than our present free software solutions relevant in this case." | Aug 08 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | " cashless society *doesn't have to be* a nasty society -- it just depends who's in control over the code." | Aug 08 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xokJSmuKCTGNgqzpI | Aug 08 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | ""1997-03-07: buy some milk" 😄" | Aug 08 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xoGV8mbWzI5BfMdRQ | Aug 08 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | "The flaw is they run Windows." | Aug 08 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xo1eFGDJnX0ZS64gK | Aug 08 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | "and this is the one that canada wants to implement here" | Aug 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Franconadians | Aug 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xnbOoGSoD7fgzC208 | Aug 08 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Cool! Microsoft might have another way of extracting a bunch of personal user data!" | Aug 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | To pull people into vans | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xnGX6tRKkvCkOXZoW | Aug 08 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | " Mint also had a serious fuck up just the past week where they pushed a bleeding-edge #GRUB update that was incompatible with the latest kernel of the distro, which rendered all systems unbootable if they ran the upgrade before Mint realized what they did."\ | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Always wiser to wait for a bit, let others jump the gun | Aug 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xnGEesqjYhkfHSx4C | Aug 08 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | " #Ubuntu docs are open to the public, while #Mint locks all their docs in a #CloudFlare site, except for some very old docs that will lead you astray. #LinuxMint fucks up simple things like telling ppl where the #bug tracker is. You must be able to reach the CF site just to find out where to report bugs: https://www.linuxmint.com/getinvolved.php" | Aug 08 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxmint.com | Get Involved - Linux Mint | Aug 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xmtS79kd8uRAZopXM | Aug 08 18:10 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz been looking at grub commentary over a 5 year period. A few people observe gnu code quality as being poor. Grub is a common target. No one makes the observation that these software are written without access to hardware documentation or help from manufacturers. The software are the equivalent of "reference models" now, like matrix synapse server. I recall developers having to first write documentation for the unknown | Aug 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | software, most of it theoretical, then write code." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xmCkRdIwPvVrP8W2K | Aug 08 18:10 |
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| schestowitz | "I think the Oil industry in general, (at least for cars) could be coming to an end. However oil based products are used in so many other areas, so job losses in the Oil industry could be mitigated by those in new material manufacturing and R&D in to sustainable and more environmentally friendly materials." | Aug 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xllzb5BOO9OkWB1yC | Aug 08 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz "Allegedly! Allegedly!"" | Aug 08 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xllXTHcnRqgS4aLEe | Aug 08 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | "prions?" | Aug 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xlOvCdA43FsoD0Prs | Aug 08 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | "What editor do you use Dr. Roy?" | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | nano and kate | Aug 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xlKtPYOe6L6UefQo4 | Aug 08 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Silicon Valley was built on Pentagon money and every single corporate social media platform has been dutifully serving the role of a state contractor in controlled narrative management since Occupy Wall Street. It is literally impossible by design for any political dissent to go viral on the modern web. | Aug 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Normally these are things Trump leads from behind on by "opposing" it, in order to manufacture consent for his administration's actual pro-war pro-surveillance accelerationism. | Aug 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | :\ | Aug 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xl1OnB4rfDNehRj0q | Aug 08 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | "I am glad that kernel devs are standing firm 👍" | Aug 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xkpMbjrDzmC9HuFAe | Aug 08 18:15 |
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| schestowitz | " This looks very useful, thanks for sharing :)" | Aug 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xkaSHZlbUII2YQz68 | Aug 08 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 08 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | "because @schestowitz copypasted the title. :(" | Aug 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xkaLXNaRqBP1jWM52 | Aug 08 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "@a1batross how coyld he make a typo in a 4 letter acronym lmaoooooo" | Aug 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xkRtgHCyZcwsZk9QG | Aug 08 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "'friends in high places'" | Aug 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xkPSBlw5C3AXosYk4 | Aug 08 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Review: Haiku R1 beta 2 | Aug 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200803#haiku | Aug 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | #HaikuOS via http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140574 @schestowitz | Aug 08 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Aug 08 18:17 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Haiku R1 beta 2 | Tux Machines | Aug 08 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | " do you have a reference for this? And do you mind sharing? Assuming so, yeet!" | Aug 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | broken links | Aug 08 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | this is really a new thing to me, Doctor. I am wondering from where you got the information that this distro is from Indonesia as all of its web pages don't say a thing about Indonesia at all (unless we read Distrowatch entry which is external). Thanks a lot for mentioning me! | Aug 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | However, after seeing it includes so many large proprietary software built in (even more than what IGOS and BlankOn GNU/Linux brought), and clearly present them as good solutions, I honestly lost interest. | Aug 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | "first of august?" | Aug 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xjyA0dY2zgS2B3wJc | Aug 08 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | app stores need to comply to our local (tax, anti-discrimination, ...) laws. | Aug 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Focusing on one single app has 0 poliical value and is, like post of trumps moves, entirely PR driven. | Aug 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz these TikTok politics are insane. | Aug 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Here in europe we weould concentrate on "what's really bad about this?" and then ban the bad behaviour. | Aug 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | For example "company x owing us y taxes?" then "make law that forces companys doing things like X to pay the y tax amount, e. g. revenue-taxing for international corporations". | Aug 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Or for TikTok: | Aug 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I don't think germany would EVER ban an app. They would simply make the laws sense-making and then all tiktok (or similar) apps are illegal | Aug 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xjxsFvCTqboE5qzTM | Aug 08 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | "These links say absolutely nothing about what the problem is. One is a conference plan and the other is a dump of random unrelated links."\ | Aug 08 18:22 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xjtYy6C7YbvdDXlq4 | Aug 08 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | "Maybe Microsoft figures with their new emphasis on cloud computing they just don't need as many employees." | Aug 08 18:22 |
| schestowitz | They fire Azure staff also http://techrights.org/2020/07/19/azure-layoffs-and-beyond/ | Aug 08 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Lays Off Azure Staff and Much More, Spins These Layoffs as “Optimization Strategy” | Techrights | Aug 08 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xjc4btCQtKIqEP5ii | Aug 08 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | "Yes. The other RSS feeds I added work on your app really well." | Aug 08 18:24 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xv1ez9HPU2gW1zfua | Aug 08 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | " Yeah, I’ll give you that. Maybe I’m just a bit jaded by life." | Aug 08 18:25 |
| schestowitz | They used to say the same about slave 'owning' and women not voting | Aug 08 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | "Sure, that is true. And there may be reasons to be dubious of Knauth. But I don't think him sponsoring a project via GitHub Sponsors is one." | Aug 08 18:25 |
| schestowitz | What does "PRO" mean? | Aug 08 18:25 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9xv28rzmZOSv1Ankrw | Aug 08 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Amongst other harmful acts against them." | Aug 08 18:26 |
| schestowitz | A lot of revenge can be invisible, e.g. bad credit report | Aug 08 18:26 |
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| schestowitz | >> roy is republishing it in its entirety, or perhaps he will nix the | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > chapters that are actually previous articles-- there are a couple of | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > those. so yes if youre still active on diaspora... then the techrights | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > version wont be new to you. i spent 8 or 9 days putting the new version | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > of the book together, and you read the fsf-titanic version. this one is | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > very much revamped, but NOT since i posted it a few days ago. | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> i appreciate the fact that the fsf is TRYING to turn around, and i | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > realise the structure isnt the most conducive to that. | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> the words that may ring the most loudly from all of this may prove to | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > be "too little, too late" | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> ive long said of systemd that even if they eradicated it tomorrow, the | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > damage it did to the "freecosystem" is 5 years worth of setback. in this | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > sense, it is a (political) software weapon. | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> any differences about that piece of software we may have aside, if the | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > fsf righted itself completely in 48 hours, i feel the fsf may already be | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > a few years behind in its fight. | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> rms deserves BOTH a legacy and a voice. im no fan of assholes who | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > treat him like a has-been, i strongly support him heading the gnu | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > project AND being on the board of directors. he shouldnt ONLY have a | Aug 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | > "legacy" but as long as he is capable of coherent speech, people should | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > hear out what he has to say about the movement he founded-- even if they | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > dont agree and dont act on it. instead he is largely cancelled, with or | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > without fsf support. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> as for the gnu project, the lack of people listening to what he says | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > has already cost us dearly. he keeps saying hes the leader of the gnu | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > project (he certainly was) but im afraid it doesnt show, and thats the | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > maintainers fault. i dont blame all of them, i blame the ones who are | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > relevant to this complaint. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> rms says hes not an optimist. he should really play to his strengths | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > in that regard. it is far more suited to the situation at hand than | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > optimism. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> what saddens me is he still refuses to hedge his bets, which is what | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > ive advocated for literally years now. he would (maybe not in his | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > opinion, but in the course of action) rather have control that does | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > nothing than mere influence that does more. he could have had the latter | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > all this time, but he squanders it on telling us to support fsf (imo). | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> we support software freedom and the four freedoms, and the gnu | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > project-- but not the people dragging it towards github. rms explicitly | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > told them not to. i have switched to my own editor to avoid leafpad (the | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > github-based program i use the most) a few months ago i didnt have this | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > option. libffi and zlib1g are terrible things to need. libopenjpeg is | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > also a github hostage. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> microsoft is trying to own git itself, as roy and i have talked about. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > git is controlled by the linux foundation, which microsoft controls. we | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > are going to lose the linux kernel. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> the fsf isnt going to catch up and beat all this, so its promises to | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > fight for our freedom are a cheque it cant cash. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> the fsf is done-- OF COURSE i dont expect you to agree, i dont expect | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > anybody [...] to agree. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> my concern is that the rms legacy CONTINUE, with or without the | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > floundering software foundation. | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> rms is more important than fsf. i realise however, the importance of | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > the fsf to the gnu project. im not naive about that. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> i do worry a lot for the gnu project, being the flagship of free | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > software-- 40 years in the making. maybe the fsf can buy it some time, | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > but thats not enough for me to support an organisation making promises | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > to the user i STRONGLY doubt it will ever be able to fulfill. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> if rms wont hedge his bets, WE still have to. if he tells people to | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > put their stock wholly in the fsf, we have to say no to that. but the | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > gnu project matters-- a lot. and even if hes the head of it in name | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > only, he should be the rightful head of it in actuality. im doubtful. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> above all, i question anybodys ability to assess what all has already | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > happened-- the damage assessment. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> rms wasnt just cancelled, he was disabled-- as in an unchecked option | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > in a menu or .rc file. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> everyone who has "come back" from this sort of thing has done so | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > greatly weakened and ineffective against the masters-- linus still leads | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > linux but he does what they want, not what linus would do. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> when rms comes back, it will be in that sort of state-- in perpetuity. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> we are better off making more of him than restoring the original. im | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > not against him coming back, as a wrote recently he may NOT be fit to | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > lead anymore, but neither is anybody else by the same standards. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> the fsf titanic is nice but we need more ships. i still think youre | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > sunk, but i wish you the best of luck on that bit of flotsam you guys | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > are hanging onto. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> i know thats going to sound sarcastic. but we need fighters, and the | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > fsf has given us nothing we can do to help other than debate FOR free | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > software (which we do) and throw money at you, which isnt related to the | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > problem that you have. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | >> we either believe or we dont. some of us have waited 5 years for you | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | > guys to come around already. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> a lot of people who care about software have already pronounced it | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > dead. we are more concerned with "what next" because if we hang onto the | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > past, we are also dead. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> id rather free software continue, and if it really is either/or, we | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > have to choose. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> if we support geoff, we support microsoft. thats not going to happen. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > but if hes not one of the rms betrayers, thats good. good for him. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> id still like to know where that fucking pineapple money came from. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > NOBODY talks about that, and even im not very interested because i | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > figure we will never know. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> maybe its nothing, but im amused to think geoff probably does know. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > roy, you have to see the latest fsf video about "utopia" (its a | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > fictional video conferencing platform-- you linked to the video already) | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > its basically a video on why you shouldnt use github. i am quite certain | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > they didnt mean it to be-- what with a new president and board member | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > that use it, of course. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > im not planning to write about it, just watch the video again. if you | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > feel moved to, make a meme or better yet an article. this is gold. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Is the new board member also with an ACTIVE ShitHub account? | Aug 08 23:38 |
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