Techrights logo

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, September 08, 2020

Join us now at the IRC channel.

*oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Sep 08 03:43
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 03:43
*asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)Sep 08 09:18
*asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 09:18
schestowitz__thegrayzone.com/2020/09/07/assange-extradition-hearing-free-press-trial/Sep 08 11:00
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Pirvu69/status/1303270223743778821Sep 08 11:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Pirvu69: Almost 30 years that Debian exists and almost 30 years of busy bodying, harassments and harassing and other assorte… https://t.co/dNfywot8ErSep 08 11:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Pirvu69: Almost 30 years that Debian exists and almost 30 years of busy bodying, harassments and harassing and other assorte… https://t.co/dNfywot8ErSep 08 11:25
schestowitz__Almost 30 years that Debian exists and almost 30 years of busy bodying, harassments and harassing and other assorted molestations. I never touched Debian if not marginally. My mental sanity comes first.Sep 08 11:25
schestowitz__A Debian Project Leader’s Victim-Offender ReversalSep 08 11:25
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1303263055686578177Sep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: Werner Koch, founder of FSFE, unsubscribed from all FSFE mailing lists and later terminated his membership, did not… https://t.co/7kYXqHTvCVSep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: Werner Koch, founder of FSFE, unsubscribed from all FSFE mailing lists and later terminated his membership, did not… https://t.co/7kYXqHTvCVSep 08 11:26
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__Werner Koch, founder of FSFE, unsubscribed from all FSFE mailing lists and later terminated his membership, did not support any kind of rogue behaviour at FSFE or any other places http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsf-is-not-fsfe/Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__ #fsfe #rogueSep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Stop Calling the FSFE “Free Software Foundation” (There’s No Direct Connection) | TechrightsSep 08 11:26
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303237879888371712Sep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: Just in case you were wondering whether Techrights was at some level devoted to justice, @schestowitz has decided t… https://t.co/GPPVX7b6k3Sep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: Just in case you were wondering whether Techrights was at some level devoted to justice, @schestowitz has decided t… https://t.co/GPPVX7b6k3Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__Just in case you were wondering whether Techrights was at some level devoted to justice, @schestowitzSep 08 11:26
schestowitz__ has decided to go with it being bad for Debian to kick out a rapist:Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/xxiainxx/status/1303243395482234880Sep 08 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@xxiainxx: @mjg59 @schestowitz How did someone so bad at writing a coherent argument get a PhD?Sep 08 11:27
schestowitz__"How did someone so bad at writing a coherent argument get a PhD?"Sep 08 11:27
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1303238608263020547Sep 08 11:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz How did you come to that conclusion?Sep 08 11:27
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1303240927490854912Sep 08 11:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz For reference this is the relevant text. I understand it not as a defense, but as a pointer tha… https://t.co/wkqvT41P5tSep 08 11:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz For reference this is the relevant text. I understand it not as a defense, but as a pointer tha… https://t.co/wkqvT41P5tSep 08 11:27
schestowitz__"For reference this is the relevant text. I understand it not as a defense, but as a pointer that auch behind the scenes talk can also go wrong. (Given that events that are more in the past are ususally taken far less into account than events more in the present)"Sep 08 11:27
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303241550541983744Sep 08 11:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @thermicorp @schestowitz The claim is that the accusations were unverified, which is extremely not the case.Sep 08 11:28
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1303245874886316032Sep 08 11:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz So Roy, which one is it?Sep 08 11:28
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303239229716135936Sep 08 11:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @thermicorp @schestowitz The bit where it spends a bunch of time talking about how Jake was expelled based on unverified accounts?Sep 08 11:29
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303243498376765441Sep 08 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @xxiainxx @schestowitz tbf how did I get a PhDSep 08 11:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thestrayworld/status/1303264788873490436Sep 08 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thestrayworld: @xxiainxx @mjg59 @schestowitz I remembered reading this long ago and it's still here for the public record https://t.co/FXfnJ4aguOSep 08 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linuxidiots.blogspot.com | Linux liars and "advocates" to avoid: The Roy Schestowitz liarSep 08 11:33
schestowitz__"I remembered reading this long ago and it's still here for the public record https://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/2007/09/roy-sc"Sep 08 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/2007/09/roy-sc )Sep 08 11:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1302145295468257282Sep 08 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: The galaxy brain who gave a dump of old debian-private messages to Roy Schestowitz forgot to remove the bit that ma… https://t.co/G6kZBZIfGTSep 08 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: The galaxy brain who gave a dump of old debian-private messages to Roy Schestowitz forgot to remove the bit that ma… https://t.co/G6kZBZIfGTSep 08 11:51
schestowitz__"The galaxy brain who gave a dump of old debian-private messages to Roy Schestowitz forgot to remove the bit that makes it pretty obvious who leaked it. Full marks for obfuscation that retains the original domain length."Sep 08 11:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1302145668098662400Sep 08 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: Said leaker has also gone all-in on defending Jake, which should be surprising to absolutely nobodySep 08 11:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1302146629152120832Sep 08 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: You'd think that "Gosh, the people who are ideologically aligned with me also keep supporting rapists" would trigge… https://t.co/umB2pgYkC2Sep 08 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: You'd think that "Gosh, the people who are ideologically aligned with me also keep supporting rapists" would trigge… https://t.co/umB2pgYkC2Sep 08 11:51
schestowitz__"You'd think that "Gosh, the people who are ideologically aligned with me also keep supporting rapists" would trigger some sort of self reflection, but apparently not"Sep 08 11:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/camyule/status/1302209320126476288Sep 08 11:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@camyule: @mjg59 I went down a rabbit hole reading about this and stumbled on the following — who the fuck are these people… https://t.co/7LPqnkyD3dSep 08 11:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@camyule: @mjg59 I went down a rabbit hole reading about this and stumbled on the following — who the fuck are these people… https://t.co/7LPqnkyD3dSep 08 11:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/renmiri1/status/1302147474375815168Sep 08 11:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@renmiri1: @mjg59 those people don't do self reflection...Sep 08 11:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/emanueleaina/status/1302233084897656833Sep 08 11:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@emanueleaina: @renmiri1 @mjg59 yeah, my assumption is that the lack of self reflection is what actually makes who they areSep 08 11:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1302146629152120832Sep 08 11:53
schestowitz__"You'd think that "Gosh, the people who are ideologically aligned with me also keep supporting rapists" would trigger some sort of self reflection, but apparently not"Sep 08 11:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/LapTop006/status/1302146380148793344Sep 08 11:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LapTop006: @mjg59 Are you also in the evil person club?Sep 08 11:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_dgoldsmith/status/1302190335515385856Sep 08 11:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_dgoldsmith: @mjg59 The hell did you just do to my brainz? I went and googled to see wtf and… yeah. So that’s a thing?Sep 08 11:54
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:54
schestowitz__The hell did you just do to my brainz?Sep 08 11:54
schestowitz__I went and googled to see wtf and… yeah. So that’s a thing?Sep 08 11:54
schestowitz__"Sep 08 11:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1302146899688873985Sep 08 11:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @mjg59 It was actually them that inspired me to write https://t.co/9KBGFTOiCmSep 08 11:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org | Draft:Effects of the 2007-2008 financial crisis on Google - WikipediaSep 08 11:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1302146899688873985Sep 08 11:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_hillu/status/1302232724099432448Sep 08 11:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_hillu: @yuhong2 @mjg59 what?Sep 08 11:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1303283196692500480Sep 08 12:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz where is Torvalds's answer?Sep 08 12:10
schestowitz__itwireSep 08 12:10
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mgarvey002/status/1303272819309113344Sep 08 12:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mgarvey002: @schestowitz They are not present on MSM. Today there is total suppresion of Assange Trial and Freedom of the Press story across the MSM.Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__They are not present on MSM.Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__Today there is total suppresion of Assange Trial and Freedom of the Press story across the MSM.Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/susiwinby/status/1303264493053440001Sep 08 12:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@susiwinby: What about the stooge #JaredKushner who gave the ring leader the intelligence that stated all MbS enemies? Yeah, he… https://t.co/c5QYrDZbFxSep 08 12:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@susiwinby: What about the stooge #JaredKushner who gave the ring leader the intelligence that stated all MbS enemies? Yeah, he… https://t.co/c5QYrDZbFxSep 08 12:12
schestowitz__"What about the stooge #JaredKushner who gave the ring leader the intelligence that stated all MbS enemies? Yeah, he got a billion dollars for the info, but Kushner needed it for his 666 NYC property payment! Is that considered a quid pro quo?"Sep 08 12:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/tzoannop/status/1303263629081563137Sep 08 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tzoannop: Of course, Mohammed BoneSaw didn't put himself on trial. After all, he's such a paragon of "peace", amirite? https://t.co/vfHmF4A2k8Sep 08 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TheAge ☞ #SaudiArabia issues final verdicts over Jamal #Khashoggi killing https://t.co/C5Deg1ivZ0 MbS w… https://t.co/11N2WTjv9DSep 08 12:13
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303249669124845574Sep 08 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @thermicorp @schestowitz Sure, he links to someone else also asserting that the people Jake assaulted are liars. Th… https://t.co/GNAvF6nxQrSep 08 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @thermicorp @schestowitz Sure, he links to someone else also asserting that the people Jake assaulted are liars. Th… https://t.co/GNAvF6nxQrSep 08 12:13
schestowitz__"Sure, he links to someone else also asserting that the people Jake assaulted are liars. That doesn't actually affect the truth of the matter."Sep 08 12:13
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1303248973118009351Sep 08 12:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz Well, he expands on that in the linked article, the truthfulness of which I can not verify hand… https://t.co/AQRqVcoiaaSep 08 12:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @mjg59 @schestowitz Well, he expands on that in the linked article, the truthfulness of which I can not verify hand… https://t.co/AQRqVcoiaaSep 08 12:14
schestowitz__"Well, he expands on that in the linked article, the truthfulness of which I can not verify handily without doing my own in depth research, which I do not want to do because I truly don't care about Appelbaum. He's a person far, far away from me and I have my own issues."Sep 08 12:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1303215677319380992Sep 08 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@therealpadams: @schestowitz What on earth are you talking about? “Performance killing overhead”... Based on what exactly? For CPU,… https://t.co/S4gcFYS12TSep 08 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@therealpadams: @schestowitz What on earth are you talking about? “Performance killing overhead”... Based on what exactly? For CPU,… https://t.co/S4gcFYS12TSep 08 12:15
schestowitz__"What on earth are you talking about? “Performance killing overhead”... Based on what exactly? For CPU, the overhead is only up to 2% at peak. For data, each connection has less than 10kb of additional payload."Sep 08 12:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1303216754479505408Sep 08 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@therealpadams: @schestowitz Here’s a light read for you: https://t.co/ErJhESgX1QSep 08 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> tools.ietf.org | Overview and Analysis of Overhead Caused by TLSSep 08 12:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JamieXML/status/1303169621130846208Sep 08 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JamieXML: Reading this excellent essay by @doctorow on #software rights and #licenses. The licensing and freedom issues of th… https://t.co/rpIUy6B0m3Sep 08 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JamieXML: Reading this excellent essay by @doctorow on #software rights and #licenses. The licensing and freedom issues of th… https://t.co/rpIUy6B0m3Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__Reading this excellent essay by @doctorowSep 08 12:16
schestowitz__ on #software rights and #licenses. The licensing and freedom issues of the 1990s are NOT today's issues. Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__More to say when all the way through. For now, IAAL and an expert, and this is darn good. https://locusmag.com/2020/09/cory-doctorow-ip/Sep 08 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-locusmag.com | Cory Doctorow: IP – Locus OnlineSep 08 12:16
schestowitz__ Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__ Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__HT @schestowitzSep 08 12:16
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:16
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/yourredlantern/status/1303165394551627777\Sep 08 12:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yourredlantern: Aw mang.. @schestowitz he.. @realDonaldTrump.. said #Intrepid huh?.. fuhhh... I’m already late to the last supper.… https://t.co/PUbOfBItVcSep 08 12:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yourredlantern: Aw mang.. @schestowitz he.. @realDonaldTrump.. said #Intrepid huh?.. fuhhh... I’m already late to the last supper.… https://t.co/PUbOfBItVcSep 08 12:19
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:19
schestowitz__Aw mang.. @schestowitzSep 08 12:19
schestowitz__ he.. @realDonaldTrumpSep 08 12:19
schestowitz__.. said #Intrepid huh?.. fuhhh... I’m already late to the last supper. Sighs.. #ridemode ON.Sep 08 12:19
schestowitz__As you can see.. I’m in the past.. 59 minutes of #twoslow mode. I am #one. So fast.. you didn’t even see my slash. Fixfiction.. OD.. OG.. #me.Sep 08 12:19
schestowitz__"Sep 08 12:19
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/PrincessBibiRF_/status/1303145133483921408Sep 08 12:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: @Thomas1774Paine @ThomasPKennedy3 @GoJackFlynn @kenamari1 @realDonaldTrump @RealJamesWoods @atensnut @Danilo_Sant65… https://t.co/0g4Omi6qLXSep 08 12:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: @Thomas1774Paine @ThomasPKennedy3 @GoJackFlynn @kenamari1 @realDonaldTrump @RealJamesWoods @atensnut @Danilo_Sant65… https://t.co/0g4Omi6qLXSep 08 12:19
schestowitz__" Your help on this GoFundMe Coronavirus family disaster is much appreciated."Sep 08 12:19
schestowitz__x https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/since-when-are-six-year-old-comments-by-torvalds-newsworthy.htmlSep 08 12:41
schestowitz__# http://www.nizkor.com/features/fallacies/appeal-to-novelty.htmlSep 08 12:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itwire.com | iTWire - Since when are six-year-old comments by Torvalds newsworthy?Sep 08 12:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nizkor.com | Fallacy: Appeal to NoveltySep 08 12:41
schestowitz__# again, make it very clear why the posts are being quotedSep 08 12:41
schestowitz__I did in several articles since... and also the comments sectionSep 08 12:41
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1303294316698365953Sep 08 12:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz "I would have liked to elicit a comment from the good doctor too, but he seems to be stuck in the era… https://t.co/knTDLnZH0KSep 08 12:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz "I would have liked to elicit a comment from the good doctor too, but he seems to be stuck in the era… https://t.co/knTDLnZH0KSep 08 12:51
schestowitz__""I would have liked to elicit a comment from the good doctor too, but he seems to be stuck in the era of IRC""Sep 08 12:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1303315791891312645Sep 08 14:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thermicorp: @schestowitz @mjg59 So what IS your position?Sep 08 14:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1303320724095021058Sep 08 14:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmbyR00: @schestowitz Blasphemy is punishable by death in sharia? I hadn't heard of that one. That's of course very reasonable and just. Or is it?Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__"Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__Blasphemy is punishable by death in sharia?Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__I hadn't heard of that one.Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__That's of course very reasonable and just.Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__Or is it?Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__"Sep 08 14:35
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/realDonaldPP/status/1303324971469598721Sep 08 14:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@realDonaldPP: @schestowitz #MAGA? #DonaldTrumpIsRuiningOurCountry!Sep 08 14:35
*rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Sep 08 16:17
*rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 16:17
*oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Sep 08 18:13
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 18:13
*rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)Sep 08 20:21
*liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)Sep 08 20:21
*liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 20:42
*rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 20:42
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/refi_64/status/1303360262293139457Sep 08 21:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@refi_64: @mjg59 @schestowitz > https://t.co/q41sZfd0Tq Stopped reading thereSep 08 21:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/ )Sep 08 21:38
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/PrincessBibiRF_/status/1303373299485999106Sep 08 21:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: Help my family GOFUNDME Below @FLOTUS @PastorDScott @schestowitz @richardursomd @realDonaldTrump @KremlinRussia_E… https://t.co/OXmwKLJshuSep 08 21:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: Help my family GOFUNDME Below @FLOTUS @PastorDScott @schestowitz @richardursomd @realDonaldTrump @KremlinRussia_E… https://t.co/OXmwKLJshuSep 08 21:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Scrappy94546226/status/1303375162050478083Sep 08 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Scrappy94546226: @schestowitz https://t.co/jzJRDLdvCsSep 08 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Scrappy94546226: https://t.co/7FUMjQxPRESep 08 21:40
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1303384704335241217Sep 08 21:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: @schestowitz @thermicorp "based on nothing at all" other than the article you wrote?Sep 08 21:40
schestowitz__Re: Debian vs ITwire?Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> https://itwire.com/open-sauce/twenty-years-with-debian-on-the-desktop-%E2%80%93-and-no-regrets.htmlSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-itwire.com | iTWire - Twenty years with Debian on the desktop – and no regretsSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2019/03/msg00013.htmlSep 08 21:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.debian.org | Re: Debian election gerrymander, credibilitySep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> "Sam is an Australian journalist who enjoys writing titillating aboutSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> stories about conflict so much he sometimes just makes the stories up."Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sounds like another opportunity to compare that to the way people madeSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> up some Appelbaum victimsSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 20:37 +0100, Matthias Hager wrote:Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> https://itwire.com/open-source/86334-no-candidates-three-days-before-Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> nominations-for-debian-leader-end.htmlSep 08 21:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-itwire.com | iTWire - No candidates three days before nominations for Debian leader endSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> How many months has this been going on now?Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__Somehow I just knew it would be a Sam Varghese article.Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__Sam is an Australian journalist who enjoys writing titillating aboutSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__stories about conflict so much he sometimes just makes the stories up.Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__As for how long its been going on - it depends on what "it" is, but weSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__Australians have been reading this style of reporting from Sam for a Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__decade or two.Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__Linux Australia used to invite him to it's events to get some coverageSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__(any coverage) for open source.  We got "coverage", but in this sameSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__style and more often than not the attendees didn't recognise the eventSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__being reported on.  He hasn't been invited to a Linux Australia eventSep 08 21:51
schestowitz__for some years now.Sep 08 21:51
schestowitz__> The itwire article accuses slashdot of publishing clickbait.  That isSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> the pot calling the kettle black in this case.Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> They are obviously trying to antagonize you, I felt the comment aboutSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> your name was a personal insult but it would be a very bad idea toSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> engage in a fight with a journalist.  Be grateful that their articleSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> will generate more traffic to your site.Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> The book Sideshow, by Lindsay Tanner, gives interesting advice aboutSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> working with Australian media professionals at every level.Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> I also felt Sam's comment about naming names is almost a threat, it isSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> unpleasant.  That comment and the tone of the article gives me theSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> feeling he is not neutral, it would be very useful to understand why heSep 08 21:52
schestowitz__> is like that.Sep 08 21:52
schestowitz__I kept an eye on the article for comments etc. to assure myself few people even read it...Sep 08 21:53
schestowitz__Jonathan Carter wrote on 08/09/2020 11:17:Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__> Hey, thanks although, just scanning over the mail it doesn't seem likeSep 08 21:58
schestowitz__> you said anything that would bother me.Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__> Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__> Keep safe,Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__You too, thanks!Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__Regards,Sep 08 21:58
schestowitz__> Well put.Sep 08 22:02
schestowitz__> Sep 08 22:02
schestowitz__> I hope it reaches Sam, too.Sep 08 22:02
schestowitz__The article was barely read by anyone anyway...Sep 08 22:02
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18956268#322c6580d4100138a5ec722ef41c0a88Sep 08 22:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Handling Attacks on #FreeSoftware Volunteers and Their Families http://techrights.org/2020/09/08/attacks-on-volunteers/ #freesw Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__"Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__12 October 2018, the Debian Project Leader, Chris Lamb, wrote that he had me “demoted” but the current leader, Sam Hartman, is telling people I was expelled. These words mean very different things. That is an incredibly vindictive way to re-write history. Hartman has made far-fetched claims about trolling but since doing so, not one piece of evidence has appeared. Any evidence produced retrospectively is no more trustworthy Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__than anything else that has been said in the meantime. Debian has a history of making up evidence retrospectively to justify political assassinations.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__tomgrzSep 08 22:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Handling Attacks on Free Software Volunteers and Their Families | TechrightsSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__tomgrz - about 6 hours agoSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__“Trolling” is one of the most poorly defined words in the language.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__John RookeSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__John Rooke - about 4 hours agoSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__It’s very strange. I was a FSFE Fellow over the period that Daniel Pocock is discussing here and I didn’t hear anything from him until the Fellowship was suspended, at which point he invited me to join an alternative mailing list to the FSFE one. At first I was sympathetic, though I didn’t know any of the background, but the list seemed to be for Pocock just to moan and for various random trolls, so I left. He seems to be Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__carrying out some kind of personal vendetta with various individuals in the Free Software Movement. After being on his mailing list for a while I find it difficult to take him seriously.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__tomgrzSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__tomgrz - about 4 hours agoSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__The question is, why was his fellowship suspended? That would not be a trivial matter.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__John RookeSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__John Rooke - about 3 hours agoSep 08 22:06
schestowitz__It’s not his fellowship that was suspended. The status of Fellow was suspended. I suspect this was because as the elected representative he was causing trouble. (I don’t know how many people voted for him BTW.) Like I said, I was sympathetic at first, but gradually came to the view that they were probably well rid of him. He just seems to be an egotist. I never learned anything about the issues he was supposedly working on.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__If what he was doing was attacking people for taking parental leave, then I must say my sympathies would be with them, rather than him.Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__"Sep 08 22:06
schestowitz__It is the opposite. Exact opposite. He left after he felt they had favoured sponsors and then abolished fellows.Sep 08 22:07
*rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)Sep 08 23:13
*rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 23:13
*rianne has quit (Client Quit)Sep 08 23:13
*rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-82.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellSep 08 23:13

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!