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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/showusyourwork/status/1192518265265967106Nov 08 00:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@showusyourwork: @corri_yammari What do you think he's doing with that money right now? https://t.co/IFW6fZBFQfNov 08 00:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zz0x1/status/1192534083731099648Nov 08 00:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/showusyourwork/status/1192553106887839744Nov 08 00:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@showusyourwork: @mpk62 @UncleSamIam1776 @BernieSanders I did, now it's your turn https://t.co/IFW6fZBFQfNov 08 00:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/showusyourwork/status/1192582193375305734Nov 08 00:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@showusyourwork: @Shutuppeople12 @tylernorris1598 @Head___Boy @davidevitelaru @UncleSamIam1776 @BernieSanders Do you understand how… https://t.co/gnIFm9gr10Nov 08 00:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@showusyourwork: @Shutuppeople12 @tylernorris1598 @Head___Boy @davidevitelaru @UncleSamIam1776 @BernieSanders Do you understand how… https://t.co/gnIFm9gr10Nov 08 00:41
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schestowitz"Do you understand how the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation works? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique …"Nov 08 00:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/showusyourwork/status/1192583950457298944Nov 08 00:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@showusyourwork: @Home_Jared @UncleSamIam1776 Yeah, about that https://t.co/IFW6fZBFQfNov 08 00:41
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schestowitz"Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz> What is important now is the follow up. I have seen us do excellent workNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> at the diagnosis stage, and then let ourselves down either in theNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> immediate follow up, or in terms of the longer lessons/conclusions weNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> should be drawing from it… in a sense we ‘forget’ the lesson we haveNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> just learned.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz> Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz> So, in order to ensure we follow up, and learn, from the excellent workNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> Roy has done here:Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz> Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>  1. Are we setting/resetting, or advising a set/reset, of the machinesNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>     (both Windows and GNU/Linux) to UTC? If not, why not?Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz1) moving off DST would be good.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz2) but (1) might risk introducing new bugs that we are not familiar with.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>  2. This has clearly happened before. What are we doing to ensure itNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>     doesn’t happen *again*?Nov 08 00:48
schestowitzBugs were tackled in the past, at least at the DB level. G. Biswas and Berto dealt with some.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>  3. How, specifically, are we going to handle this better in future? (OrNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>     even better ensure it doesn’t recur?).Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>      1. How do we alert clients this time next year that this is aboutNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>         to happen? (Don’t trust your memory!).Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz1) We can tell them that for an hour there may be anomaliesNov 08 00:48
schestowitz2) Stu made a fix in JBoss side/his code.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>      2. How do we ensure log files can cope?Nov 08 00:48
schestowitzEnsure enough disk space is available and watch closely around that time.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>      3. (My favourite) How, specifically, do we change the way thingsNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>         work (best solution!)Nov 08 00:48
schestowitzWe need to sort of mark DST days on the calender, esp. this one (not the 'leap' hour in March).Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>  4. I LOVE the suggestions, but if they /remain/ suggestions it is justNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>     a waste of time…Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>      1. *Are we */adding an insight in a reply to Des/? (Why haven’t weNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>         already Roy?)Nov 08 00:48
schestowitzI did the following day.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz>      2. No /maybe/ about it! Let’s *do the work* to prevent the sameNov 08 00:48
schestowitz>         incident next year, or prepare better!Nov 08 00:48
schestowitzYes, I agree. We already implemented some fix at the app server's side.Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz> Insight and diagnosis is only half of the work we do in support, let’sNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> finish this one in the excellent way Roy has diagnosed it. Please haveNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> the confidence, Roy, to follow through with your own suggestions, andNov 08 00:48
schestowitz> not just leave *as* ‘/suggestions/'…Nov 08 00:48
schestowitz"Nov 08 00:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bwhimself/status/1192610551928623105Nov 08 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bwhimself: @PraveenPerera "The Linux Foundation is Not About Linux" https://t.co/Rfl6EnzejsNov 08 01:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Julier1776/status/1192645992132136960Nov 08 03:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Julier1776: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/hwy4irBLpHNov 08 03:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Julier1776: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/hwy4irBLpHNov 08 03:37
schestowitz"Good, maybe this bullschiff will see Zais disbarred & broke. This entire episode is like a bizarre Monty Python sketch but completely lacking in humor."Nov 08 03:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1192644129387372544Nov 08 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz https://t.co/qVUzhZ7dtBNov 08 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz https://t.co/qVUzhZ7dtBNov 08 03:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1192647618733789184Nov 08 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz U should know of Orwellian as u propagandize for the #serialinfringers. AIA had nothing to do with imp… https://t.co/gqZwM4udgDNov 08 03:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz U should know of Orwellian as u propagandize for the #serialinfringers. AIA had nothing to do with imp… https://t.co/gqZwM4udgDNov 08 03:39
schestowitz"U should know of Orwellian as u propagandize for the #serialinfringers. AIA had nothing to do with improving patent quality. AIA was passed so #serialinfringers could more easily rescind patents they saw as a threat in a controlled forum #PTAB. A pure example of “buying” the law"Nov 08 03:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/anonyfoundation/status/1192628607174270979Nov 08 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@anonyfoundation: https://t.co/cCRXfJvQto #AaronSwartzDay https://t.co/cpViECMQf4Nov 08 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.eff.org | Join EFF for Aaron Swartz Day This Weekend at The Internet Archive | Electronic Frontier FoundationNov 08 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● Exploiting the death of Aaron each year for money (like #condenast #reddit does) ☞ Join #EFF for… https://t.co/5MHDAzhPv1Nov 08 03:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Blaidd_tx/status/1192558261372891136Nov 08 03:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Blaidd_tx: @RE_cyclops_ @MarkSZaidEsq @schestowitz @wikileaks @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_… https://t.co/n8gjzF2ll6Nov 08 03:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Blaidd_tx: @RE_cyclops_ @MarkSZaidEsq @schestowitz @wikileaks @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_… https://t.co/n8gjzF2ll6Nov 08 03:54
schestowitz"Nov 08 03:54
schestowitzMaybe they pay him in Disney World tickets. He loves to go, alone. Member of #Club33 ?Nov 08 03:54
schestowitzDisney Cruises to private islands?Nov 08 03:54
schestowitzMore Disney tween girl stars videos to like on YouTube?Nov 08 03:54
schestowitzHe tweeted about getting tickets to Disney from FBI. HmmNov 08 03:54
schestowitz"Nov 08 03:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JMH_RULES/status/1192556788190793730Nov 08 03:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JMH_RULES: the whistleblower's lawyer is a snitch and a deepstate asset https://t.co/8yMm0Y4I9aNov 08 03:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @MarkSZaidEsq @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw @AndrewBakaj Zaid… https://t.co/n6BUSC3BIjNov 08 03:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RE_cyclops_/status/1192555481518227458Nov 08 03:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RE_cyclops_: @MarkSZaidEsq @schestowitz @wikileaks @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/LsGFISDcLMNov 08 03:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RE_cyclops_: @MarkSZaidEsq @schestowitz @wikileaks @NaomiPitcairn @ARetVet @john_sipher @PacoBell @AshaRangappa_ @wbaidlaw… https://t.co/LsGFISDcLMNov 08 03:55
schestowitz"I can't wait til you're arrested."Nov 08 03:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/1192533783372800000Nov 08 03:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@adymitruk: @schestowitz @zoobab I was there but too busy to listen to anything besides SnowdenNov 08 03:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1192519199983374337Nov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @Twpalovi @petrasorge @KrapulaPhD @katarinabarley @patcrit @AnaMartinsGomes @paululenbelt @MichielvNispen… https://t.co/YGfgvbLZ3YNov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @Twpalovi @petrasorge @KrapulaPhD @katarinabarley @patcrit @AnaMartinsGomes @paululenbelt @MichielvNispen… https://t.co/YGfgvbLZ3YNov 08 03:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/1192509092872503298Nov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@iridesce57: We can hope this ends up in SCOTUS soon https://t.co/MgkMplHmyTNov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● 'Historic' #Alaska Ruling Could Provide Roadmap to Defeating Citizens United https://t.co/fLU3EY6UxvNov 08 03:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/1192489086164099073Nov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Twpalovi: @Sheikh_al_Touar @petrasorge @KrapulaPhD @katarinabarley @patcrit @AnaMartinsGomes @paululenbelt @MichielvNispen… https://t.co/KeBevTNTmuNov 08 03:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Twpalovi: @Sheikh_al_Touar @petrasorge @KrapulaPhD @katarinabarley @patcrit @AnaMartinsGomes @paululenbelt @MichielvNispen… https://t.co/KeBevTNTmuNov 08 03:56
schestowitz"Can we stop saying 'new'?"Nov 08 03:57
schestowitz"But there is a subtle difference between ‘weer’ of ‘alweer’ ☺️"Nov 08 03:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/1192489086164099073Nov 08 03:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1192660246088409088Nov 08 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: .@leoniehaimson @schestowitz I rag on @BillGates so much to/with you two that I'd like to point out a welcome contr… https://t.co/lDOWg08lVvNov 08 04:35
schestowitz"Nov 08 04:35
schestowitzJames Salsman  📎 Retweeted CNBCNov 08 04:35
schestowitz.@leoniehaimson @schestowitz I rag on @BillGates so much to/with you two that I'd like to point out a welcome contrast with this clip in which he was completely misrepresented on Twitter a couple days ago. I fully agree with nearly everything he says here:Nov 08 04:35
schestowitz"Nov 08 04:35
schestowitzWhat he says and does are totally different things, shows historyNov 08 04:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1192662790026088449Nov 08 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @colourmeamused_ @beccalew @schestowitz predates us all 🤣Nov 08 04:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1192662942942027778Nov 08 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates To be fair, he's not lobbying for flattening progressive taxes like Google,… https://t.co/g7KJxgV7RdNov 08 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates To be fair, he's not lobbying for flattening progressive taxes like Google,… https://t.co/g7KJxgV7RdNov 08 04:51
schestowitz"To be fair, he's not lobbying for flattening progressive taxes like Google, Apple, Oracle, Amazon and Facebook are. And in this case his and Warren Buffett's very similar statements on the tax and transfer incidence in the mass media go further (when reported right) than lobbying"Nov 08 04:51
schestowitzHe is the world's biggest tax evaderNov 08 04:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j082298/status/1192663910819782657Nov 08 04:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@j082298: @schestowitz Or worse, the mental illness claim, all it takes is a few corrupt doctors.Nov 08 04:52
acer-box__https://pleroma.site/notice/9oj3pzDdHs9QBpYd6mNov 08 05:00
acer-box__"Nov 08 05:00
acer-box__@schestowitz @kaniini no no noNov 08 05:00
acer-box__no competitionNov 08 05:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 05:00
acer-box__monopoly is safeNov 08 05:00
acer-box__good capitalism is safe capitalismNov 08 05:00
acer-box__"Nov 08 05:00
acer-box__https://pleroma.site/notice/9oj4LOfci2Pk6ScyY4Nov 08 05:00
acer-box__"z in general i would say they are both quite evil, just with different specializations."Nov 08 05:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 05:00
acer-box__#billgates can get many lies out of his mouth. Did so for decades. But he cannot force people to chew, he cannot force-feed or deep-throat people, not even when he bribes the international media to the tune of $100 million per year under the guise of 'charity' (lobbying/bias/lies)Nov 08 05:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16452062#27f73ab0e40501371e917a163ef10931Nov 08 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: And #redhat - as a reminder - works for #microsoft https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/enterprise-database-gone-cloud-native-sql-server-2019-red-hats-hybrid-cloud-portfolio also see http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/microsoft-leads-red-hat-events/Nov 08 05:08
schestowitz"“hybrid cloud portfolio” sounds rather nebulous, and perhaps poor breeding."Nov 08 05:08
schestowitzBastard childNov 08 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.redhat.com | The enterprise database gone cloud-native: SQL Server 2019 on Red Hat’s hybrid cloud portfolioNov 08 05:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Sometimes It Feels Like Microsoft — Not IBM — Bought Red Hat | TechrightsNov 08 05:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16452008#2aa2fcd0e40601371e9f7a163ef10931Nov 08 05:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: They turn mass #surveillance into a 'game' now https://www.iottechtrends.com/product-review/cube-review-keep-track-of-everything-important-to-you/ #spying #eavesdropping #cloudwashing #cube Nov 08 05:34
schestowitz'"Nov 08 05:34
schestowitzTry to keep the important things in your brain. It’s a good exercise.Nov 08 05:34
schestowitzTake the following situation with the cube or just Google Maps with Siri: people who always use Google Maps with Siri giving directions can be observed to have a poor comprehension of where they are, geographically and in relation to specific routes. If you rely on devices for directions, you mostly just do what they say and do not bother to memorize the street names, the route, the towns you go though, rivers you cross, etc.Nov 08 05:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.iottechtrends.com | Cube Review – Keep Track of Everything Important to You - IoT Tech TrendsNov 08 05:34
schestowitzOn the other hand, if you have to keep the map in your head, and navigate yourself on the ground, you will have a much better understanding of the part of the world you are travelling. So, if you are always having to interact with some “cube” to get your routes in your mind, they never will be.Nov 08 05:34
schestowitzNov 08 05:34
schestowitztomgrz - about 2 hours ago Nov 08 05:34
schestowitzI always admire my grandfather. He could or would go from one place to another in the state of Connecticut almost always without even looking at a map, and usually by the best route.Nov 08 05:34
schestowitz"Nov 08 05:34
schestowitzharder when you are out of town, but can still ask for directionsNov 08 05:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16442794#b02dec40e3ac01377604005056264835Nov 08 05:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● 'What Fascism Looks Like': #Israel High Court Upholds Expulsion of Human Rights Watch Director #OmarShakir Over Alleged #BDS Support https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/05/what-fascism-looks-israeli-high-court-upholds-expulsion-human-rights-watch-director Nov 08 05:35
schestowitz"Nov 08 05:35
schestowitzWhen “High-Court” does not mean what you think it does.Nov 08 05:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org | 'What Fascism Looks Like': Israeli High Court Upholds Expulsion of Human Rights Watch Director Omar Shakir Over Alleged BDS Support | Common Dreams NewsNov 08 05:35
schestowitzNov 08 05:35
schestowitzDr. Hydro - about 13 hours ago Nov 08 05:35
schestowitzhttps://pluspora.com/posts/1838942Nov 08 05:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluspora.com | Da hat #Israel die letzten 26 #Terroristen nicht freigelassen und d...Nov 08 05:35
schestowitz"Nov 08 05:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16438265#01a49640e2e4013773d1002590d8e506Nov 08 05:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #Israel Supreme Court Greenlights Deporting #HumanRightsWatch Official https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/11/05/israel-supreme-court-greenlights-deporting-human-rights-watch-official #hrwNov 08 05:36
schestowitz"Nov 08 05:36
schestowitz murdeRED dreams GrandWizardOfZOGNov 08 05:36
schestowitzNov 08 05:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.hrw.org | Israel: Supreme Court Greenlights Deporting Human Rights Watch Official | Human Rights WatchNov 08 05:36
schestowitzsry bro, but Bildbeschreibung hier eingeben https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaledfullea507dbcaa23cf432390.jpg and the example of the kurds shows perfectly, why israel is neededNov 08 05:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaledfullea507dbcaa23cf432390.jpg )Nov 08 05:36
schestowitz"Nov 08 05:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16393672#c57f6a80de4501378cbf002590d8e506Nov 08 05:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #israel #palestine ☞ 'A Mockery of Justice': Outrage Over One-Month Community Service Sentence for Israeli Soldier Who Shot Dead Palestinian Teen https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/30/mockery-justice-outrage-over-one-month-community-service-sentence-israeli-soldier Nov 08 05:37
schestowitz"how do the palstinians punish jew-murderers? just curious"Nov 08 05:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org | 'A Mockery of Justice': Outrage Over One-Month Community Service Sentence for Israeli Soldier Who Shot Dead Palestinian Teen | Common Dreams NewsNov 08 05:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16162912#0d217f40c9d90137525b0cc47a07853cNov 08 05:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #israel #palestine #trump ☞ US Press Horrified By Trump’s "Shoot Migrants in the Legs" But Ignores What Israeli Snipers Do to Palestinian Protesters https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/04/us-press-horrified-trumps-shoot-migrants-legs-ignores-what-israeli-snipers-do Nov 08 05:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.commondreams.org | US Press Horrified By Trump’s "Shoot Migrants in the Legs" But Ignores What Israeli Snipers Do to Palestinian Protesters | Common Dreams ViewsNov 08 05:37
schestowitz"theyre both pretty horrific imo"Nov 08 05:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/thekc23/status/1192666352634470400Nov 08 07:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thekc23: @1trueathena @CaraKorte @BernieSanders HA-we are talking about countries he isn't a citizen of-he profits off of ot… https://t.co/y0wkWCBszmNov 08 07:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thekc23: @1trueathena @CaraKorte @BernieSanders HA-we are talking about countries he isn't a citizen of-he profits off of ot… https://t.co/y0wkWCBszmNov 08 07:03
schestowitz"HA-we are talking about countries he isn't a citizen of-he profits off of other countries via philanthropy&assists monopolistic control of industries(agri)by introducing GMOs into their crops. He maintains&expands his wealth through philanthropy as well  http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Found"Nov 08 07:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Gates Found - TechrightsNov 08 07:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1192678372154863616Nov 08 07:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates I believe you're mistaken. Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Soros, Marc @Benioff,… https://t.co/tL7lJbxV4fNov 08 07:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates I believe you're mistaken. Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Soros, Marc @Benioff,… https://t.co/tL7lJbxV4fNov 08 07:06
schestowitz"I believe you're mistaken. Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Soros, Marc @Benioff, Eli Broad, @Pierre Omidyar, and a handful of others on Forbes 400 disavow the kinds of offshore haven avoidance Gates mentions, in which most of the others readily participate:"Nov 08 07:06
schestowitzThe created or leveraged the scam of fake 'charities' that let them pay little or no taxNov 08 07:06
schestowitzForbes is the foremost glorification rag of this practice and guess who funds itNov 08 07:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/1192679143172820998Nov 08 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates @Benioff @pierre It's weird that so many stories about how billionaires avoi… https://t.co/49zW5wUGDtNov 08 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsalsman: @schestowitz @leoniehaimson @BillGates @Benioff @pierre It's weird that so many stories about how billionaires avoi… https://t.co/49zW5wUGDtNov 08 07:07
schestowitz"It's weird that so many stories about how billionaires avoid taxes completely omit the most popular Panama Papers-style offshore haven shell company method e.g. https://www.moneytips.com/how-the-mega-rich-avoid-paying-taxes …"Nov 08 07:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.moneytips.com | How the Mega-Rich Avoid Paying Taxes | MoneyTipsNov 08 07:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1192680434058104832Nov 08 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz I liked his "rain man" impression... https://t.co/MscIxDNBRw https://t.co/N9d07lPsm2Nov 08 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.marketwatch.com | Advice for Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg: Don’t behave the way Bill Gates did in 1998 - MarketWatchNov 08 07:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz I liked his "rain man" impression... https://t.co/MscIxDNBRw https://t.co/N9d07lPsm2Nov 08 07:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16335379#39af01d0e42101377425002590d8e506Nov 08 07:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS going to speak at #microsoft was a mistake. "Thank you, RMS, for making it look or seem like Microsoft is OK now. In a few weeks when #billgates #pedophilia scandals become a thing we'll have Murdoch's (Gates' friend) media slandering you as what Bill Gates >actually< is..."Nov 08 07:09
schestowitz"Does Murdoch own Vice?"Nov 08 07:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/11/06/sacrificing-rms-for-mit/Nov 08 07:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Only Person Punished for the Gates-Epstein Connection/Affairs Seems to be Richard Stallman and Now the Libel Resumes | TechrightsNov 08 07:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16334793#86375490e4210137741f002590d8e506Nov 08 07:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: must be rather awkward times to be at #redhat on the one hand supporting #gnome while at the same time working for #ibm as IBM lobbies for those #swpats that IBM lobbies hardest for while shaking down like a troll Nov 08 07:10
schestowitz"Nov 08 07:10
schestowitzNov 08 07:10
schestowitzMicrosoft shares with no one, it's all for Bill Gates.Nov 08 07:10
schestowitz"Nov 08 07:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16335288#5f990960e4230137429c002590d8e506Nov 08 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #SFC ready to move on and try to leave its legacy of attacking RMS, the FSF founder and GNU chief, behind? https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/oct/24/ksonexplained/Nov 08 07:11
schestowitz"Nov 08 07:11
schestowitzbased on someone whom I trust, much of the SFC’s attack on RMS was just bkuhn, who left the FSF a month laterNov 08 07:11
schestowitzi felt like that was worth an update, given that he partly denies it in the blog he wrote after leaving.Nov 08 07:11
schestowitzmako hasnt talked about why he left then eh? thats a real disappointment. the impression hes left for me is that hes just a hipster who doesnt care much anymore. thats not a firm doubt, its all ive got from him. which isnt much.Nov 08 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> sfconservancy.org | Karen Sandler Featured on Explained - Software Freedom ConservancyNov 08 07:11
schestowitzNov 08 07:11
schestowitzWill Hill - 11 minutes ago Nov 08 07:11
schestowitzThat’s a pity, there’s noting but good stuff on his wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_M._KuhnNov 08 07:11
schestowitzI’m glad that Sandler had nothing to do with the attack on RMS. She is really awesome and deserves help.Nov 08 07:11
schestowitzA week or two ago, I caught up with some of her lectures about free software in medical devices, more specifically the lack of it. Her 2018 lecture on it was depressingly Trumpian - she’s been beat down from someone roaring for software freedom and real control over medical devices into a person begging software owners for features that will spare her life. This is a story that should be told and one that’s highly resonant. As she Nov 08 07:11
schestowitzcorrectly observed, it’s an issue everyone can understand that highlights the importance of real control over devices people own as their external control or lack of control is as unacceptable as a Harkonan heart plug from Dune. Gates has cornered this market and the result is life threatening.Nov 08 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Bradley M. Kuhn - WikipediaNov 08 07:12
schestowitz"Nov 08 07:12
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okJPrVj7GybB9XtVwNov 08 10:42
schestowitz"This is false advertising, how is it legal?"Nov 08 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 10:42
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okVffhZzJCsdbOXDcNov 08 10:42
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schestowitz"wait. if so, why OCCRP didnt take position for Assange? Also look at their funding, it reeks of US State Department..."Nov 08 10:42
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/breaking-high-court-of-england-and.html?showComment=1573056220603#c3891173166836144648Nov 08 10:45
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:45
schestowitzThe static URLs still work - crazy as it may sound, TuneIn are able to continue to provide access to BBC Radio streams on the current app, but only to listeners outside of the UK!Nov 08 10:45
schestowitzI believe that the restriction also doesn't apply to the TuneIn app on older devices that can't support the BBC Sounds app (or which the BBC won't supply the app on).Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzThe links on my original post provide more info about this together with the BBC's rationale for doing it.Nov 08 10:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: High Court of England and Wales weighs in on communication to the public and linking - The IPKatNov 08 10:46
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/10/breaking-board-of-appeal-provides-some.html?showComment=1573076477618#c2231015295122660861Nov 08 10:46
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzDear Suleiman Ali, Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzIt will not come as a surprise if I disagree with your statement that the EPO refuses, not rejects, applications for formal reasons. Nov 08 10:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal provides some initial thoughts on the Broad Institute’s CRISPR appeal (T0844/18) - The IPKatNov 08 10:46
schestowitzAdded subject-matter is anything but a formal reason. Added subject-matter and novelty are the two faces of the same coin. What one loses on the side of added subject-matter is gained on the side of novelty. You would certainly not claim that novelty is a formal reason. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzIn this respect, the inescapable trap looks harsh, but forces applicants to check whether they want the patent the EPO proposes to grant, as they have to approve the text in which it was granted. It is thus too easy to claim afterwards that the consequences are too strict. Even if a representative can proudly announce to his client that he might obtain a patent, it is his duty to check whether it is in the form which does not bring harm Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzin the future. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzClarity is also not a formal reason, as it is moot to discuss about novelty and inventive step of a set of unclear features. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzI could continue the list. Deciding upon the validity of priority is neither a formal decision. If the priority is not valid, the state of the art to take into account when deciding upon novelty and inventive step changes drastically. Can this be purely a matter of form? I doubt it, even if at a glance it looks like it. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzAs explained by Proof of the pudding the Boards of Appeal, and primarily the Enlarged Board of Appeal, have developed a coherent system of case law, which might look strict at a glance, but has the big advantage to allow everybody to know where they stay, especially third parties. What might be favourable to an applicant/proprietor goes to the detriment of third parties and vice versa. Again the two faces of a same coin. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzThe only point where I would agree with you is the absence of a revision instance in the EPC. Boards of Appeal have a large discretion in their dealings, which will become even larger with the new rules of procedure as of 01.01.2020. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzThe Boards of Appeal may rule whether or not the divisions of first instance have exercised their discretion correctly or not, but which instance rules whether the Boards of Appeal have exercised their discretion correctly? Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzThe institution in EPC 2000 of petitions for review is a rather complicated instrument, and the Enlarged Board has made clear from the outset that it does not want to deal, even roughly, with matters of substance. And yet when reading some petitions, a decision in the substance could sometimes be justified. When only 8 appeal procedures have been reopened after a petition for review, compared to 147 actual decisions, represent a quite Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzmeagre result. Nov 08 10:46
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:46
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/10/breaking-board-of-appeal-provides-some.html?showComment=1573134336828#c255308369077982592Nov 08 10:57
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:57
schestowitzHi 'The EPO is not to blame but the applicant'. Thank you for your response. I joined the patent profession in the mid-90s. I now spend a lot more of my time (and my client's money that could have been used for R&D) on added matter, lack of unity, priority, unsearched matter than I used to in the mid-90s. Everything has become stricter and more complex, and so costlier. The fact that we have a 'coherent body of law' is not worth the cost. Nov 08 10:57
schestowitzI wonder how much it has cost organisations that carry out R&D to argue about priority in the CRISPR dispute. Nov 08 10:57
schestowitzI am not disagreeing with what you say, and as an attorney I enjoy case law. But the real world costs of our legal games at the EPO are huge, and increasing. That money is coming out of R&D budgets. Someone needs to rebalance the system, or at least start to quantitate the real cost of having probably the strictest patent system in the world.Nov 08 10:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal provides some initial thoughts on the Broad Institute’s CRISPR appeal (T0844/18) - The IPKatNov 08 10:57
schestowitzYour response might be that this is not the EPO's responsibility. However it needs to be someone's, and the EPO is well placed to be a participant in such a discussion, in collaboration with EU policy makers. Nov 08 10:57
schestowitz"Nov 08 10:57
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:18
schestowitzYes, I made a copy of docs, but I believe the privacy policy of infospace applies, as that is what is linked from the http://hush.co website: http://infospace.com/downloadable/terms/privacy.htmlNov 08 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.afternic.com | Nov 08 17:18
schestowitzLooking forward to reading you article.Nov 08 17:18
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-infospace.com | Downloadable Privacy PolicyNov 08 17:18
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okfLViWOtbjQ7rPxANov 08 17:48
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schestowitz"maybe we can cheekily ask @rysiek ?"Nov 08 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oknQkOA4vjO0MLTHsNov 08 17:48
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schestowitzhumm, about what? :)""Nov 08 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oknXZyHD0xVirUmo4Nov 08 17:48
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schestowitz"when did OCCRP stand for Assange and against his extradition? (like Amnesty, Article19, The Guardian, The New York Times, RSF, the UN special rapporteur on torture, etc.?)"Nov 08 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okncfO2V9jZxyyJCCNov 08 17:49
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schestowitzwas quoting a piece claiming that "the OCCRP ensures investigative #journalism will never die " so i was wondering""Nov 08 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oknfW5NXSyfzMbPBQNov 08 17:49
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schestowitz" I don't believe OCCRP took a stand one way or another in this particular case."Nov 08 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oknolJiHLuVpkiRZwNov 08 17:50
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schestowitz"who should we ask about it? and also ask why? is it because of OCCRP's funding, or something else?"Nov 08 17:50
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:50
schestowitz@jz @schestowitz I do not think OCCRP necessarily identifies investigative journalism with any single person, be it Julian Assange or anyone else. We do sometimes take a stand in such cases, but usually when there is a connection to OCCRP or one of our Member Centers.Nov 08 17:50
schestowitzThis doesn't have anything to do with the funding; from my experience we're pretty good at not caring about what our funders think of our content. Case in point: the Pentagon Pipeline in Making a Killing, and some other stories.Nov 08 17:50
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okoYfpL1SFc7zOszoNov 08 17:50
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schestowitz"he right person to ask would be either info@occrp.org, or (ugh) our Twitter account."Nov 08 17:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okos0bzy90O5pNfAONov 08 17:51
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schestowitz"point is, according to all the mentioned groups and persons this case is NOT (just) about the person of JA, but about investigative journalism, free speech, the geopolitics of extradition, war, violation of citizenship/asylum, (therefore corruption in the case of Lenin Moreno) etc..."Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okpHfS5GPQ1znyi6CNov 08 17:51
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzI did not say JA case is not about IJ in general or other topics you mention.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzI said that OCCRP does not identify IJ with any single person.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzWhich also doesn't mean OCCRP thinks his case is NOT about IJ.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzThese are separate statements, all can be true at the same time.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzSpecifically it means that one can support IJ in general without necessarily making a call on a particular person's case.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzNot everyone who supports IJ supported Khadija Ismayilova, for example. That's fine.Nov 08 17:51
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okpeR5Cqy6Y5k8NTUNov 08 17:52
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:52
schestowitz well it's not about ranking the horror of persecution of journalists... but this person's case seems to be very localized, and her funding apparently coming from a powerfully connected and highly political entity.... In the case of JA it's rather the opposite: funding by the people, and a case involving US, UK, Sweden, Spain, Ecuador, UN, etc....Nov 08 17:52
schestowitzbut yeah, maybe their line is that they have no time, or something like that... i think we should ask them anywaysNov 08 17:52
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okqFyhGqADP3eq8NENov 08 17:53
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:53
schestowitz@jz @schestowitz please go ahead. I myself wonder what the official line is on this! :)Nov 08 17:53
schestowitzBear in mind there's a bit of history there, with JA/Wikileaks accusing OCCRP of being a gov  shill/front (mere hours before we published our CIA story).Nov 08 17:53
schestowitzThing is, we do have quite a few of donors now:Nov 08 17:53
schestowitzhttps://www.occrp.org/en/aboutus/who-supports-our-workNov 08 17:53
schestowitzIn fact, for the last few years there was a lot of work put into making sure we're not beholden to the US government (or any other gov for that matter). But that's background context.Nov 08 17:53
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.occrp.org | Who supports our work - OCCRPNov 08 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okqVjs1jUKrhwO1HUNov 08 17:53
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:53
schestowitz@rysiek @schestowitz haha you realize this long list of foundations, google, omydiar and a few hyper-aligned vassal countries  etc.. only makes it differently creepy, but not less US-infused looking? :)Nov 08 17:53
schestowitzthanks for the context thoughNov 08 17:53
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:53
schestowitztechrights does not take funding. you ought to follow and support us Nov 08 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okqfjtYUnx2gDrzk0Nov 08 17:54
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:54
schestowitz I didn't say our list of donors is perfect. :)Nov 08 17:54
schestowitzAnd US-infused is substantially different from US-controlled, I'd say.Nov 08 17:54
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:54
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okqmWMTDCdYjWd17YNov 08 17:54
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schestowitz"@rysiek @schestowitz i would argue that more often than not it doesnt.. even if in subtle, "soft' ways... (ie. OTF-funded ppl who hear friendly oral advice of not mentioning US gov in their researches etc...)"Nov 08 17:54
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okr79aX4qqSBW2o6qNov 08 17:55
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:55
schestowitz and yet we do mention US in our stories:Nov 08 17:55
schestowitzhttps://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/spies-and-shadowy-allies/Nov 08 17:55
schestowitzhttps://www.occrp.org/en/makingakilling/Nov 08 17:55
schestowitzAnd if you have suggestions where to get more independent funding from, we're all ears. Can get you in touch with our funding people.Nov 08 17:55
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.occrp.org | Spies and Shadowy Allies Lurk in Secret Thanks to Firm’s Bag of Tricks - The Panama PapersNov 08 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.occrp.org | Making a Killing - OCCRPNov 08 17:55
schestowitzbetter not to look for such funding at all; not everything is about money, which buys power and corrodes visionNov 08 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okrlCmmbl01gXs9QmNov 08 17:56
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:56
schestowitz@jz @schestowitz I would also argue that the "funding" angle always has the danger of leading into the "but Tor was funded by US Navy, therefore surely it's backdoored" corner.Nov 08 17:56
schestowitzI look at Tor Project and I see solid tools, and transparent code. Plus, money that could have been spent on bombs that was used for this instead.Nov 08 17:56
schestowitzBut that's a way bigger debate. Point is, it's not that black-and-white. And governments like any large orgs often do conflicting things. It's not always Part Of A MasterplanNov 08 17:56
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:56
schestowitzThis criticism of Tor is partly legitimate and should not be waved offNov 08 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okrzyPOLQYlRFyP8yNov 08 17:57
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schestowitz" well let's speak about tor then.. and who has access to the root directory servers, how they are administered... also what codes and behaviours are applied to their employees... who they hire (oops that CIA guy! oops the husband of that CEO) and other patterns of influence... is tor really what we need, and should it attract all attention and energy (to the detriment of myriads of other architectures and codebases that could be Nov 08 17:57
schestowitzexperimented with) are also important questions"Nov 08 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oksC04xxXTu5w9csSNov 08 17:58
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schestowitz""Follow the money" is a golden principle of IJ for a reason..... it can take very very subtle forms. for years i thought the OSF had 0 influence on us for instance... it had quite a lot in reality, when considered with a critical distance, over the years... even for 30% or less of our funding."Nov 08 17:58
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schestowitz"Nov 08 17:58
schestowitzz that's also a valid point. But would you be making it 5 years ago? I acknowledge Tor Project "management style" changed perhaps for the worse lately. But was it always the case?Nov 08 17:58
schestowitzAgain, way larger discussion that I have to bail out on right now. But I'm up for having it, either here or in person next time we meet.Nov 08 17:58
schestowitz"Nov 08 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oksFLkFrWVK9w41TMNov 08 17:58
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schestowitz" "us" being?"Nov 08 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oksIxNIPdEhjb2qmmNov 08 17:59
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schestowitz"La Quadrature du Net from 2008 to 2014 when I left"Nov 08 17:59
schestowitzThe site has been practically dead since. I still follow it over RSS, but 90% of the time it's meta craftNov 08 17:59
schestowitzThe site has been practically dead since. I still follow it over RSS, but 90% of the time it's meta/cruftNov 08 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oksQy67blo6IFpeW8\Nov 08 18:00
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schestowitz"@rysiek @schestowitz yes 5y ago either. this is about when that CIA guy was hired with no notice to anyone and under false pretense..... directory index servers were i think all administered by US ppl then (look what happened to the one ran by social-war-veteran Isis L....)"Nov 08 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oksjATALiThsNHz2eNov 08 18:00
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schestowitz"Nov 08 18:01
schestowitz@jz @schestowitz ah yes.Nov 08 18:01
schestowitzWell, my view is: donors give money for a reason. They *want* specific outcomes. I am not strictly against that, depending on how much micromanagement happens, and what the outcomes are supposed to be.Nov 08 18:01
schestowitzWe need better ways of funding important projects, I would agree. Crowdfunding is becoming it, but there are still problems with that also.Nov 08 18:01
schestowitzAnyway. Need to get back to pushing the US agenda or something! Let me know if/when you get an answer from OCCRP (or if you don't)Nov 08 18:01
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:01
schestowitzYou've just explained why taking such money is a mistake; objectivity and independence are your most valuable assets. You lose them? You've lost everything.Nov 08 18:01
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schestowitz"Nov 08 18:02
schestowitzsure let's continue that discussion anytime. as a contribution, here is a non-exhaustive of "soft" influence i noted, with time and distance, donors get on their grantee:Nov 08 18:02
schestowitz- strategy documentsNov 08 18:02
schestowitz- invoices and other "life" traces and metadataNov 08 18:02
schestowitz- unencrypted communication of the former (!)Nov 08 18:02
schestowitz- proximityNov 08 18:02
schestowitz- capacity to invite/move ppl around in same placesNov 08 18:02
schestowitzand that's without even mentioning the "hard" influence: stated objectives, boundaries, no-noes, etc.Nov 08 18:02
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:02
schestowitznotable example: Linux FoundationNov 08 18:02
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9oktJrvAH5dj40sy24Nov 08 18:03
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schestowitz" that's a great list. Quite seriously, perhaps we should make it into a paper or a conference talk? Mapping out the complicated outcomes of donor influence?"Nov 08 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9okuCvLlE9rJcqZtpYNov 08 18:03
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schestowitz"@rysiek @schestowitz one of us already did something like this (which doesnt -on the contrary- invalidates your proposal): https://vimeo.com/173491657 (WARNING: intro may be in French :)) )"Nov 08 18:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-vimeo.com | [THSF2016] ANDY MULLER CCC : A Hackers view on the Military Industrial Internet Freedom Complex on VimeoNov 08 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ol5KDyNU9jSuFKBGaNov 08 18:03
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:03
schestowitzInspired by yogi government in U.P India😂Nov 08 18:03
schestowitz#SabchangasiNov 08 18:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 18:03
schestowitz'Nov 08 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ol5S2yqEtHX88GtpANov 08 18:04
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:04
schestowitz If you talk to #Australians on the street, they very much support #Assange.Nov 08 18:04
schestowitzThe media here are atrocious. They neglect to cover his plight. When they do they spin Julian as a reckless, skateboarding "charm"er.Nov 08 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 18:04
schestowitzThe elite are working overtime to provide distractions in Australia. Whether or not their efforts are working is another story.Nov 08 18:04
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:04
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ol6wNipmnAk6LoSCeNov 08 18:04
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:04
schestowitzPeople walking off their jobs for climate action is unlikely.Nov 08 18:04
schestowitzThe best advice is to boycott multinationals that are doing the wrong thing by either abusing labour, causing environmental destruction or subverting democracies.Nov 08 18:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 08 18:04
schestowitzWe're doing it with #Monsanto (now #Bayer) and #Purdue but now to face of against #BilOil, #fracking, #Nestle, #Lendlease, #Google, #Facebook, #Amazon, #CocaCola, #MARS,  etcNov 08 18:04
schestowitzFor more ethical info:Nov 08 18:04
schestowitzwww.ethical.org.auNov 08 18:04
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:04
schestowitz> Ok, so a little progress here. What I was saying is we need to move from> just thinking about stuff to *action*. Thinking is fun, but only> *action* moves the universe.Nov 08 18:27
schestowitzThere is a new OTRS ticket update in which we move towards adjusting all system times to UTC 0. This involves ByteMark as well.Nov 08 18:27
schestowitzI suggested that if we change TZ settings, all servers should be moved to the same one, without exceptions, to avoid inconsistencies. I will pursue this further on my shift.Nov 08 18:27
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039181684864024576?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039181684864024576:0:0:0:1039181908309549056Nov 08 18:41
schestowitz"Im afraid they going to make that work. let's see"Nov 08 18:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Neoliberalism’s Children Rise Up to Demand Justice in Chile and theNov 08 18:41
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1038469197362171904?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1038469197362171904:1038479964848640000:1039234132551942144:0:1039237101437292544Nov 08 18:41
schestowitz"Who Knows? I don't, either way."Nov 08 18:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Columnist E. Jean Carroll, Who Accused Trump of Rape, FilesNov 08 18:41
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1038469197362171904?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1038469197362171904:1038479964848640000:1039234132551942144:0:1039237101437292544Nov 08 18:41
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039378315962281984?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039378315962281984:0:0:0:1039378432822919168Nov 08 18:42
schestowitz"wow"Nov 08 18:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | [Guest Post] Novelty of Cripps Pink Apples under Council Regulation on Community Plant Variety RightsNov 08 18:42
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039371452949016576?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039371452949016576:0:0:0:1039377644287180800Nov 08 18:42
schestowitz"wow"Nov 08 18:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Fungus Among Us: Researchers Map Lineages of Chytrid Fungus Affecting Sierra Nevada FrogsNov 08 18:42
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039469399076814848?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039469399076814848:0:0:0:1039496019031687168Nov 08 18:43
schestowitz'Nov 08 18:43
schestowitzHmmm-mm. Let's see. They think toxic, logically fallacious thinking is what independents want to hear. Somehow, I think they've long left that train behind. Somehow, deep down inside, they're starting to realize that the definitions have been scrambled. The Left keeps trying to prop itself up by defining itself as "compassionate," but the lies are wearing thin.Nov 08 18:43
schestowitzFAR LEFT = 100% government or big, centralized control (tyranny, like Nazism, Socialism, Communism, Totalitarianism, Collectivism, Crony Capitalism, Corporatism, Corruption), and 0% freedom.Nov 08 18:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Throwing the Base Under the Bus—and Other Deep Thoughts From NYTNov 08 18:43
schestowitzFAR RIGHT = 0% government and 100% freedom. Close to Free Market Capitalism, Americanism, Truth, ResponsibilityNov 08 18:43
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:43
schestowitzs://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039468135219773440?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039468135219773440:0:0:0:1039500806187974656Nov 08 18:44
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzTrumpian right to be deceitful? What a lot of hogwash. I've asked long and hard for specifics on why Democrats hate Republicans, Libertarians and Trump, but they keep coming up with generalities and logical fallacies. Clearly, the Left and the Globalist-Leftist Media is being deceitful and skillfully pretending to be the victim. Oh, God! What a scam.Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzAnyone with half a brain can unravel the lies. I used to be a Democrat and even a Warming Alarmist. I know the lies and thought there are some lies on the Right, they're almost always associated with LEFTISTS hiding on the Right.Nov 08 18:44
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039468135219773440?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039468135219773440:0:0:0:1039500806187974656Nov 08 18:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Why Facebook Is Soliciting LiesNov 08 18:44
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039467482775478272?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039467482775478272:0:0:0:1039501947074080768Nov 08 18:44
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzThat's rich. Both Twit and Fakebook are heavily Left leaning. To call them bullhorns for Trump is like call the church minister a crackjack salesman for the Red Light District.Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzTrump Lies? Name one!!! I dare you.Nov 08 18:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Twitter and Facebook are global bullhorns for Trump's lies. We must break them up | OpinionNov 08 18:44
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzWashPo counter about 10,000Nov 08 18:44
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1039502640923344896?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1039502640923344896:0:0:0:1039505720834523136Nov 08 18:45
schestowitz"because after all these years that usa lived in hitler dream society... trump is right nationalist.. just like hitler"Nov 08 18:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Why a Russian Politician Just Called Trump 'Hitler'Nov 08 18:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peced/status/1192844504426012674Nov 08 18:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peced: @schestowitz The sign is counterproductive unless it's established that she's gonna be primaried.Nov 08 18:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192843523378298882Nov 08 18:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Not very deep. They barely scratched the surface.Nov 08 18:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LarsToralfS/status/1192830189836914689Nov 08 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LarsToralfS: @schestowitz But while #Sanders and #Warren har extreme left, #Buttigieg and #Biden are leftists too, only on the… https://t.co/amsi6WP2O4Nov 08 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LarsToralfS: @schestowitz But while #Sanders and #Warren har extreme left, #Buttigieg and #Biden are leftists too, only on the… https://t.co/amsi6WP2O4Nov 08 18:50
schestowitzBut while #Sanders and #Warren har extreme left,  #Buttigieg and #Biden are leftists too, only on the other side of the left spectrum, i.e. "Inner left", "Extrem right of the left side", "liberal fascists", etc.""Nov 08 18:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trolltrip/status/1192787351531065345Nov 08 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: Hey Roy @schestowitz, did you take notice of former chief editor Jan Kleinert interviewing former mayor of Munich C… https://t.co/xQHt0YhCcwNov 08 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: Hey Roy @schestowitz, did you take notice of former chief editor Jan Kleinert interviewing former mayor of Munich C… https://t.co/xQHt0YhCcwNov 08 18:51
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:51
schestowitzHey Roy Nov 08 18:51
schestowitz@schestowitzNov 08 18:51
schestowitz, did you take notice of former chief editor Jan Kleinert interviewing former mayor of Munich Christian Ude regarding #Limux and #Microsoft lobbying? Great article, unluckily German language only.Nov 08 18:51
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:51
schestowitzCan you sent the gist of it/best part?Nov 08 18:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EP_IT_Attorney/status/1192765805869572097Nov 08 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EP_IT_Attorney: @schestowitz Many believe it is a top-down reformNov 08 18:51
schestowitzBut we know in whose favourNov 08 18:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Estevanovich1/status/1192763566954172416Nov 08 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Estevanovich1: @schestowitz Precisely why Epstein WAS such a valuable intelligence asset, and so expendable, as well. He likely w… https://t.co/MTffCs42uUNov 08 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Estevanovich1: @schestowitz Precisely why Epstein WAS such a valuable intelligence asset, and so expendable, as well. He likely w… https://t.co/MTffCs42uUNov 08 18:52
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzPrecisely why Epstein WAS such a valuable intelligence asset, and so expendable, as well.Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzHe likely was the world's leading child sex honey trapper.Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzLike ALL camera footage surrounding the Pentagon on 9/11, Epstein's guests sexcapades blackmail footage will remain classified.Nov 08 18:52
schestowitz"Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192760983778922496Nov 08 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz I don't think you need to bribe politicians, just convince them is enough.Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192760188706721799Nov 08 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Arresting people is for the executive power. Unfortunately, the EPO is sovereign and does not follow the rule of law.Nov 08 18:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192758408056840192Nov 08 18:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz EPO have their lobbyists in Brussels.Nov 08 18:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1192758028073877504Nov 08 18:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Düsseldorf is the european capital of patent trolling. Worked there for a year, lots of people working in the patent industry.Nov 08 18:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DaAleksandersen/status/1192747878789394434Nov 08 18:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DaAleksandersen: @schestowitz Maybe not if the device had a really low cost due to being subsidized by their business dealings … . T… https://t.co/q0VA2iF1k8Nov 08 18:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DaAleksandersen: @schestowitz Maybe not if the device had a really low cost due to being subsidized by their business dealings … . T… https://t.co/q0VA2iF1k8Nov 08 18:53
schestowitz"Maybe not if the device had a really low cost due to being subsidized by their business dealings … . The retail price is 550 USD, however. A similar-size capacity NAS (without the over-provisioned data replication feature) costs around 120 USD. 2x storage is plus 25 USD."Nov 08 18:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BarrWatch/status/1192746438003810305Nov 08 18:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BarrWatch: .@Microsoft @BillGates https://t.co/fv16x58c8NNov 08 18:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LlaoLine/status/1192727485697409024Nov 08 18:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LlaoLine: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MIAuniverse @Lowkey0nline Alas GB prefers guard his Political prisoners War prisoners of D… https://t.co/8FYGlSEwbcNov 08 18:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LlaoLine: @schestowitz @wikileaks @MIAuniverse @Lowkey0nline Alas GB prefers guard his Political prisoners War prisoners of D… https://t.co/8FYGlSEwbcNov 08 18:54
schestowitz"Alas GB prefers guard his Political prisoners War prisoners of Democrats America's New Order US Mondial Reich of The Ring than  to Kill them doulorously of Hypersensitive slow Death for US GB UE Orphans and some Unmentionable Defense Secrets as Maffias' Crimes in name of States."Nov 08 18:54

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