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schestowitz-TRgm, I am 99% sure now I will never go back on any social control mediaApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRit would be as fruistless as having a "little smoke" after quittingApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRnot that I would describe that as psysically addictiveApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRhow hard would it be to make the daily links present just the URL for eachApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRlinkApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRnot title -- just url, before each "block " or item?   Apr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRat the moment I do this manually, sometimes copying too little of the URLApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRor "too much" of itApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRi.e. broken linkApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRactualy. come to think of it... site name would be nice to have after the urlApr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRso Apr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRURL  source: [site name]Apr 09 08:24
schestowitz-TRI have meanwhile pushed to git some changes from my endApr 09 08:24
Techrights-secIt'd be easy to make that modification.  Apr 09 08:28
schestowitz-TRI think (from memory) you commented out the lines which did something similar beforeApr 09 08:28
schestowitz-TRmaybe it can be exactly the same as before, except no hashtag and instead source: [name of site]Apr 09 08:28
schestowitz-TRat the endApr 09 08:28
schestowitz-TRas the format no longer relies on the sea of spurious navigation by hashesApr 09 08:28
Techrights-secit'd be simple to prepent the URL before that. Apr 09 08:35
Techrights-secSomething like this?Apr 09 08:35
Techrights-sec<!--https://kevincox.ca/2022/03/18/multi-version-rollout/ Kevin Cox-->Apr 09 08:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kevincox.ca | Multi-Version RolloutsApr 09 08:35
schestowitz-TRchecking wth my side...Apr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRok, yes, I can see now in timeline.shApr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRsed -Ee 's/<!--(....Apr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRthat's the lline which uncomments thatApr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRso the belowApr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRas you show in the prototypeApr 09 08:40
schestowitz-TRwould likely be greatApr 09 08:40
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Techrights-sec<!-- https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/05/submitting-changes/ Kevin Cox -->Apr 09 08:48
Techrights-sec                  <h5>[[[[[Kevin Cox]]]]] <a href="https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/05/submitting-changes/">Submitting Changes</a></hApr 09 08:48
Techrights-sec5>Apr 09 08:48
Techrights-sec                  <blockquote>Apr 09 08:48
Techrights-sec                    <p>It would be possible to do a simple version manually, manually deploy to a slice of production after apprApr 09 08:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kevincox.ca | Submitting ChangesApr 09 08:48
Techrights-secoval. However, merge conflicts would cause a lot of pain and forgotten versApr 09 08:48
Techrights-sec</p></blockquote></li>Apr 09 08:48
Techrights-seclike that?Apr 09 08:48
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schestowitz-TRI think the [[[[ bits are added somewhere else already, so neo need for themApr 09 08:50
schestowitz-TRah, OK, yes, they get added thereApr 09 08:50
schestowitz-TRbut at my end when all the links links I add are already thereApr 09 08:50
schestowitz-TRotherwise it duplicats the 'tagging'Apr 09 08:50
schestowitz-TRiirc, that's a script called social media interleave or similarApr 09 08:53
schestowitz-TRI hope that musk stake will accelerate the death of this bubble/hypeApr 09 08:53
schestowitz-TRit shows who those sites served all alongApr 09 08:53
schestowitz-TRsaudi price, bill gates, musk...Apr 09 08:53
schestowitz-TRand those people are being subjected to sharecroppingApr 09 08:53
Techrights-secThat's where they have been for a long time but I can remove them.Apr 09 08:53
Techrights-secthis is in links-interleave-social-control-media.plApr 09 08:53
Techrights-secyesApr 09 08:53
Techrights-secUnfortunately the public is oblivious and uncaring about who controls Apr 09 08:53
Techrights-sectwitter and how much they are able to use it for manupulation.  A lot of thatApr 09 08:53
Techrights-secuncaring is due to severe psychological addiction and the various forms Apr 09 08:54
Techrights-secof denial that go along with that.  Apr 09 08:54
schestowitz-TRmanipulation is the only business model they found. twitter started bombarding with ads only years ago, but that's just part of the "ads"Apr 09 08:54
schestowitz-TRiirc, it was an indian official who called "trending" what they are: adsApr 09 08:54
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Techrights-secyes, manipulation is the *only* business model and aside from Carole CadwalladrApr 09 08:58
Techrights-secthere are no journalists even looking at the problem and she has beenApr 09 08:58
Techrights-secsuccessfully marginalized and pushed asideApr 09 08:58
Techrights-secSLAPP : https://pressgazette.co.uk/carole-cadwalladr-will-defend-true-claims-about-brexiteer-aaron-banks-in-libel-battle/Apr 09 08:58
Techrights-sechttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/14/arron-banks-carole-cadwalladr-libel-trialApr 09 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pressgazette.co.uk | Carole Cadwalladr threatens to counter-sue Arron Banks after libel claimApr 09 08:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Arron Banks’s lawsuit against reporter a freedom of speech matter, court hears | Arron Banks | The GuardianApr 09 08:58
schestowitz-TRcraif murray had a decent rebuttal to  itApr 09 08:59
schestowitz-TRshe is not so innocent eitherApr 09 08:59
schestowitz-TRshe picked on "enemies" of the bill guardian and coApr 09 08:59
Techrights-secCraig Murray has also been shut down more or lessApr 09 09:00
Techrights-secYet the grauniad is the only site covering her trial it seemsApr 09 09:00
Techrights-sechttps://essexlawresearch.blog/2022/03/24/libel-trial-against-investigative-journalist-concludes-before-the-high-court-a-landmark-test-of-the-public-interest-defence/Apr 09 09:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-essexlawresearch.blog | Libel Trial against Investigative Journalist Concludes Before the High Court: A Landmark Test of the Public Interest Defence | Essex Law Research BlogApr 09 09:00
schestowitz-TRreadingApr 09 09:09
Techrights-secthe court appears to have sided with banks for all practical purposes thoughApr 09 09:10
Techrights-secsuperficially appearing to have done otherwise.  The effect is the sameApr 09 09:10
Techrights-secas a win for him, if I read correctly.Apr 09 09:10
schestowitz-TRso no matter the intenbtionApr 09 09:10
schestowitz-TRor how shitty brexit isApr 09 09:10
schestowitz-TRshe may have done sloppy workApr 09 09:10
Techrights-secAFAIK she was about the only one to even tryApr 09 09:11
schestowitz-TRback in the goilden wikileaks eraApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRor wikileaks daysApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRassange still 'free'Apr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRI saw some of her tweetsApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRnever followed her articles closelyApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRthe style was like that of qanonApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRjust post a bunch of photo opsApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRor just photos of peopleApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRseamed together as "tweets"Apr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRand prove connections by some shitpostingApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRI focused (at the time) on AssangeApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRand how was luimped in with "RUSHA" and "brexit"Apr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRthis got her "likes" not for quality of journalismApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRbut for tribalismApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRand scoring political pointsApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRcarole sure did msome "honourable" conspiracy theoriesApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRand was a well-compensated "crank"Apr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRthe way I saw itApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRand some insinuated she was possible used by intel agenciesApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRfor some objectives of theiorsApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRnotably, in that limited context, diluting public supportApr 09 09:15
schestowitz-TRfor journalism that exposes war crimes etc.Apr 09 09:15
Techrights-secRSF did mention the case back in January but just that once IIRCApr 09 09:19
Techrights-secEverything has been turned into tribalism and partisanship these days.Apr 09 09:19
Techrights-secThat part is likely. The intel agencies do appear to exploit who they can.Apr 09 09:19
Techrights-secI notice that all the cranks still disparage Assange when they can, evenApr 09 09:19
Techrights-secwith lies that have been fully debunked yet still get trotted out.Apr 09 09:19
Techrights-secAnyway, at least here, the media keeps pushing people to use social controlApr 09 09:19
Techrights-secmedia even though it undermines their future (both the victims and the media) Apr 09 09:19
schestowitz-TRyou won't appreciate me saying soApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRbut Julian did controbute to becoming an easier targetApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRsome things he said and didApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRsome people whom he chose to meet etc.Apr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRhe should have been more prudentApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRbut that's not to say they wouldn't have found or made upoApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRsomething elseApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRthe general allute om f "scoail" media will wear offfApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRwhen more people accept it's mostly fakeApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRand its impact overall is massively over-inflatedApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRand exaggerated to herd people thereApr 09 09:20
schestowitz-TRat one point even Brya Lunduike made the point about it being overratedApr 09 09:20
Techrights-secNot here.  As the country falls further victim repeatedly to disinformationApr 09 09:21
Techrights-seccampaigns that have profound effect on politics and politicians they stillApr 09 09:21
Techrights-secpush it.Apr 09 09:21
Techrights-secYes, but Bryan has gone off the deep end in recent years and has not had anything useful to say for about that long.Apr 09 09:21
schestowitz-TRfrom what I saw in dozens of OSNews comments, Lunduke managed to get himselfApr 09 09:23
schestowitz-TRcanceledApr 09 09:23
schestowitz-TRand even when he reported correctly on eleementaryOS (and this is nowApr 09 09:23
schestowitz-TRverified/affirmed) the focus was on him being a terrible persoonApr 09 09:23
schestowitz-TRpersona non grataApr 09 09:23
schestowitz-TRwhose site must not even be mentioned or linked toApr 09 09:23
Techrights-sechttps://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/don-t-want-to-be-abused-online-simple,-stay-away-from-social-media.htmlApr 09 09:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Don't want to be abused online? Simple, stay away from social mediaApr 09 09:25
schestowitz-TRhave you put this link inm daily links?Apr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRmind you, I had to click OK on 320+ dialogues when opening this page Apr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TR*30 timesApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRso many trackers and shitApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRbeing off "social" media 'helps'Apr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRit makes you less ionvolved Apr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRand you don't end up wqresling with pigs in the mudApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRbut it is not an nsuranmce against being vilified thereApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRbut the way twitter works, you cannot winApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRbecause false statements remainApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRand threding is terribleApr 09 09:28
schestowitz-TRso context will, by design, be absentApr 09 09:28
Techrights-secYes, one item which did not get enough coverage was his repeated observationsApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secthat YouTube videos containing the word "Linux" in the title got demonetizedApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secconsistently.  Apr 09 09:33
Techrights-secYes, the opponents attack the messenger because ad hominem is all they can     Apr 09 09:33
Techrights-seccounter with since their arguments have no merit when they exist at allApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secunfortunately most schools and communnity clubs are run via Facebook hereApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secthose few that are exceptions use something else Facebook like WhatsAppApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secand the members pat themselves on their backs for being clever in avoidingApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secFacebook.  :/Apr 09 09:33
Techrights-secavoidance of context is one of the methods they use to increase confusion andApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secstrife and thus "enagagement" which equals more "clicks" and more manipulationApr 09 09:33
Techrights-secand more visceral responses thus feeding a vicious cycle.Apr 09 09:33
schestowitz-TRI assume one of the yeses above is to the link being in the next cycle of daily linksApr 09 09:33
schestowitz-TRI read it in a hurry just nowApr 09 09:33
schestowitz-TRthat agrees with opinions I've formed myselfApr 09 09:33
schestowitz-TRalthough I'm a dataset of size 1Apr 09 09:34
Techrights-sec:)Apr 09 09:37
schestowitz-TRlet's hope this can become a HUGE issue this year. The media is propping up the musk thing as great newsApr 09 09:38
schestowitz-TRthis is sheer spin!!Apr 09 09:38
schestowitz-TRimagine that same media saying it's AWESOME and COOLApr 09 09:39
schestowitz-TRthat bezos bought washington postApr 09 09:39
schestowitz-TRor jack ma with the HK pressApr 09 09:39
Techrights-secIt's sheer foolishness since social control media damages the press, Apr 09 09:40
Techrights-sectwitter in particular damages the press, and Musk will use it as a hammerApr 09 09:40
Techrights-secto further damage the press and push his agendas and various pump-and-dumpApr 09 09:40
Techrights-secschemesApr 09 09:40
Techrights-secyep bezos and gates and maApr 09 09:40
Techrights-secma was put away by the CCP more recently Apr 09 09:40
schestowitz-TRthey put both people and companies (and celebs)Apr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRand people WITH companiesApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRif they become too powerful and independentApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRveering in their own directionApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRand drawing inspirationApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRonly pooh is allowed thatApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TR*put AWAYApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRfwiw, corporations operate similarlApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRthey remove staff that poses a threat to the managementApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRand can become managementApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRunless it's part of the existing cliqueApr 09 09:42
schestowitz-TRso it's not about skills but self-defenceApr 09 09:42
Techrights-sechttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/technology/china-jack-ma-alibaba.htmlApr 09 09:44
Techrights-secjust if they get too independent just as JK Rowling or John LennonApr 09 09:44
Techrights-secif they contribute nothing to society, such as the Kardashian herd, thenApr 09 09:44
Techrights-secthey're allowed to continue as they areApr 09 09:44
Techrights-sechttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/technology/jack-ma-alibaba-tycoons.htmlApr 09 09:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Why China Turned Against Alibaba's Jack Ma - The New York TimesApr 09 09:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Jack Ma Shows Why China’s Tycoons Keep Quiet - The New York TimesApr 09 09:44
Techrights-sechttps://www.forbes.com/sites/georgecalhoun/2021/06/24/what-really-happened-to-jack-ma/Apr 09 09:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | What Really Happened To Jack Ma?Apr 09 09:44
schestowitz-TRmusk is to twitter what andrew lee is (was?) to freenodeApr 09 09:44
Techrights-secone can hopeApr 09 09:44
schestowitz-TRlol, not the response I was expectingApr 09 09:45
Techrights-secI have no good will towards twitter at allApr 09 09:48
schestowitz-TRits influence and reach have both been waningApr 09 09:48
schestowitz-TRbut like FB they hide itApr 09 09:49
schestowitz-TRand they fake itApr 09 09:49
schestowitz-TRby sending all the users to few very active "zones"Apr 09 09:49
schestowitz-TRor high-profile accounts that 'media' will quoteApr 09 09:49
schestowitz-TRas if this was "the scene"Apr 09 09:49
Techrights-secagain the "media" is part of the problem even when it is against their own   Apr 09 09:50
Techrights-secinterests to do soApr 09 09:50
schestowitz-TRcollective interestApr 09 09:56
schestowitz-TRneed collective actionbApr 09 09:56
schestowitz-TRthey hope to gfain "edge"Apr 09 09:56
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Techrights-secPrisoners' DilemmaApr 09 10:08
Techrights-sechttps://plato.stanford.edu/entries/prisoner-dilemma/Apr 09 10:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-plato.stanford.edu | Prisoner’s Dilemma (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)Apr 09 10:08
schestowitz-TRthe filters and the reactionApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRimperial the freedom or willingness to speak openly and franklyApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRcase or example:Apr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRI said "microsoft piece of shit company" in a videio yesterdayApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRin gulagtube people avoid such termsApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRor remove them after recordingApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRor upload, get a warning, then change behaviourApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRtwitter is a lot like that with covid-19 and ABCD+Apr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRyou have to think twice or thrice before saying thingsApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TR*imperial/imperil/Apr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRthis gives AMPLE political control to the platform ownerApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRElon Musk already had Twitter BAN people who used his surname or maybe faceApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRin twitterApr 09 10:12
schestowitz-TRmany people forgot that (and the reaction to it)Apr 09 10:12
Techrights-secmost only remember a few minutes at a time AFAIKApr 09 10:20
schestowitz-TRinfo overload contributes to thisApr 09 10:20
schestowitz-TRirc can be more manageableApr 09 10:20
schestowitz-TRif done rightApr 09 10:20
schestowitz-TRno unified uiApr 09 10:20
Techrights-secmost only remember a few minutes at a time AFAIKApr 09 10:24
schestowitz-TR The Jackson confirmation, like OJ Simpson case, shows quite an accomplishment; they've made it all about race and this way margApr 09 10:32
schestowitz-TRinalised any actual substance.Apr 09 10:32
Techrights-secyep that keeps anyone from discussing actual qualifications or important Apr 09 10:32
Techrights-secissuesApr 09 10:32
schestowitz-TRnot limited to courts and politicsApr 09 10:33
schestowitz-TRFOSS has a combination of money (GSoC, Outreachy) tried to itApr 09 10:33
schestowitz-TRso if you declineApr 09 10:33
schestowitz-TRyou are both a commieApr 09 10:33
schestowitz-TRand a bigotApr 09 10:33
Techrights-secoutreachy seems more about politics and control intrigue than anything aboutApr 09 10:48
Techrights-seccodeApr 09 10:48
Techrights-secOpenBSD appears to have the best CoC by far out of any extant projectApr 09 10:48
Techrights-secHowever, the reason FOSS is attacked is because of the utility the softwareApr 09 10:48
Techrights-sechas had. Thus the two-pronged approach to 1) weaken the softwatre (e.g.Apr 09 10:48
Techrights-secsystemd) and 2) control the software and its developers (eg. systemd)Apr 09 10:48
schestowitz-TRI have just watched that video you sent over about being put in the "gulag"Apr 09 10:49
schestowitz-TRHE USED THE WORDApr 09 10:49
schestowitz-TRGulagtube will only get more oppressive, not more lenient, over timeApr 09 10:49
Techrights-secyes, many are noticing but only as they themselves are pushed out and silencedApr 09 10:49
Techrights-secthereApr 09 10:49
schestowitz-TRI am going to start copying some parts of /home and mater /root as backups of TRApr 09 10:51
schestowitz-TRto the new laptop, which has 1TBApr 09 10:51
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schestowitz-TRtruly terrible weather here laterApr 09 11:10
schestowitz-TRcold, war, super-windyApr 09 11:10
schestowitz-TRdoing actualm damageApr 09 11:10
schestowitz-TR*lately, not laterApr 09 11:10
DaemonFC$13 to make a pot of slow cooker sweet and sour meatballs with ingredients from Walmart. Actually, it takes half of a family sized bag of frozen meatballs. Apr 09 11:12
DaemonFCSo I'll have half a bag left. Total order $16.85Apr 09 11:12
DaemonFCIt's always more expensive to make a recipe every year. :PApr 09 11:13
DaemonFCMy favorite is when all of the can and bag sizes have changed because they want to hide the inflation.Apr 09 11:13
DaemonFCThen it throws the entire recipe off.Apr 09 11:13
Techrights-sec"OBEY", "CONFORM", "MARRY AND REPRODUCE", "CONSUME", "WATCH TELEVISION" and "SLEEP"Apr 09 13:20
Techrights-sechttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/plotsummaryApr 09 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-They Live (1988) - Plot Summary - IMDbApr 09 13:20
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schestowitz-TRI have dropped gulag alerts altogetherApr 09 15:20
schestowitz-TRstill undecided on gulag noiseApr 09 15:20
schestowitz-TRI keep picking up patent news iun generalApr 09 15:20
schestowitz-TRbut 90% of it would be better not amplifiedApr 09 15:20
Techrights-sechowever I suspect that the only way to get patent news is to sift throughApr 09 15:20
Techrights-sectremendous loads of crap Apr 09 15:20
Techrights-secI use fie pre-loaded Google News searches but only check them occasionally Apr 09 15:20
Techrights-secsince it is so rare for those feeds to contain anyting relevant let aloneApr 09 15:20
Techrights-secboth relevant and of decent quality.Apr 09 15:20
schestowitz-TRone option at the end of my head was, gulag "enhanced"Apr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRwhere spamSites are culled, and topics somehow organisedApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRbut no program can replace a human assessorApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TResp. in subjects that ar e'specialised'Apr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRhence I stopped thinkingApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRso it's a GIGO problem with no simple solution to itApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRyou start with the sobjective: Daily Links and TuxMachines with manyApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRrelevant Linux linksApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRthen, for patents, correcting liesApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRthe latter is more difficult as it is a precarious situatuinApr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRwhen I was in social control media I had an approch for responding, but it still;Apr 09 15:23
schestowitz-TRsent them trafficApr 09 15:23
Techrights-secin anyting relevant let aloneApr 09 15:25
Techrights-secboth relevant and of decent quality.Apr 09 15:25
Techrights-secBest to avoid sending traffic to them/Apr 09 15:25
Techrights-secyes twitter is designed for such misuse of the "report" buttonApr 09 15:25
Techrights-secthere is also "brigading" there tooApr 09 15:25
schestowitz-TRin the moe distant past (about 5) years I had another approacj: take the false tweetsApr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TR"Mention"(TM) themApr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TRand then correct them inlineApr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TRbut thiks has gotten risky as they can report you for "abuse"Apr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TRor"block" uou to make the Mention "not available"Apr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TRmoreobver, it requires readyg tweetsApr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TRI used to follow the PPEPo's wteets, all of them, when RSS was possibleApr 09 15:26
schestowitz-TReven the third parties are blocked noiwApr 09 15:26
Techrights-secit also allows various marginal agendas to push into mainstream despite Apr 09 15:31
Techrights-secbeing otherwise upopular and even despised; that too drives "engagement" dueApr 09 15:31
Techrights-secto the strife it causesApr 09 15:31
schestowitz-TRbrigading is encouraged by twitter as it drives engagamnebneApr 09 15:31
schestowitz-TRbut only the "good" brigadingApr 09 15:31
schestowitz-TRlike, if Elon Musk likes it and you luagh at the "pedo guy" driver who risked his lifeApr 09 15:31
Techrights-secNot only risked his life but had nearly unique skills with best-in-the-worldApr 09 15:31
Techrights-secexperience in those skills.  The people who could have taken on that task Apr 09 15:31
Techrights-secwouldn't even need all fingers on one hand to count. Apr 09 15:31
Techrights-secThere are a lot of divers, but very few cavers who are divers.  There is a Apr 09 15:31
Techrights-secbig difference with the foundation.  He was first and foremost a spelunker.Apr 09 15:31
Techrights-sechttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/inside-the-risky-cave-dive-that-rescued-a-thai-soccer-teamApr 09 15:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nationalgeographic.com | Inside the risky cave dive that rescued a Thai soccer teamApr 09 15:31
schestowitz-TRI always have to remind myself who owns NeoGeoApr 09 15:32
schestowitz-TRI've loved and sued their wallpapers/photos sine I was about 15Apr 09 15:32
schestowitz-TR*usedApr 09 15:32
Techrights-secYes, it got sold not so long ago and shifted focus a bit and priorities a lot.Apr 09 15:33
Techrights-sec:(Apr 09 15:33
schestowitz-TR"Apr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TRsome people/corproiations/interests stand to benefit a lotApr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TRnot necessarily from changing the agenda of neogeoApr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TRbut just buying it and doing nothign with itApr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TRthe same is true for companioes bought companies and orgsApr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TRbuy and let rotApr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TR"give me your sandwich!!!"Apr 09 15:35
schestowitz-TR"are ... you.. actualyl going to eat it?"Apr 09 15:35
Techrights-sechttps://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-10-16/thailand-cave-rescue-divers-documentaryApr 09 15:36
Techrights-secYes, there is the threat of just letting it quietly waste away.  That gets it Apr 09 15:36
Techrights-secoutof the way without the fight and ruckus that would come with trying to changeApr 09 15:36
Techrights-secit too much or shut it down quickly.Apr 09 15:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.latimes.com | 'The Rescue' real people: Cave divers tell their stories - Los Angeles TimesApr 09 15:36
schestowitz-TRI wonder WHICH year in Business [siuc] School [sic] they teach thatApr 09 15:37
schestowitz-TRAshitPieApr 09 15:37
Techrights-sec:(Apr 09 15:40
Techrights-secMBA is just rationalised theft and fraud.  No redeeming value.  I figure Apr 09 15:40
Techrights-secthere's an inverse relation between the number of MBAs in a business andApr 09 15:40
Techrights-secits economic viability.  However, the only institutions which would studyApr 09 15:40
Techrights-secthat, even given the numbers from the dot-com era, would be business schoolsApr 09 15:40
Techrights-secand there's not getting past the conflict of interest there.  They would notApr 09 15:40
Techrights-secbe willing to gather data showing that they are egnaged in fraud and that theApr 09 15:40
Techrights-secworld would be better off without their interference.Apr 09 15:40
schestowitz-TRold story, maybe I mentioned in irc some time in the pastApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRin summer 2003 I thinkApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRwe were moveed in the student halldApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRI was phd candidateApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRthey had to repair/change all the shower in the buildingApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRso for a week or so I ended up sharing a unit (kitchen, lounge) with some indian oriiginApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRMBA studentApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRthat person was the most despicable thing I ever came acrossApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRsociopath in his 20sApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRunable to see what he himself wasApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRI did have experience with other MBA studentsApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRone of them, Hans (Norway), was my friendApr 09 15:43
schestowitz-TRall the rest were tasteless people or worseApr 09 15:43
Techrights-sechttps://text.npr.org/1043363760Apr 09 15:44
Techrights-secMBAs are notorious for not being very brightApr 09 15:44
Techrights-secnor ethicalApr 09 15:44
Techrights-secTheyre also partially responsible for the plague of m$ products about in the Apr 09 15:44
Techrights-secworld, a capital crime as far as I see it.  Apr 09 15:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Documentary follows the divers who risked it all in the Thailand cave rescueApr 09 15:44
schestowitz-TRbribes are "marketing help"Apr 09 15:45
schestowitz-TRjust keep saying it, keep lyingApr 09 15:45
schestowitz-TRa colleague my senior at the tme, gilles (from france), had a very dim view of MBA studentsApr 09 15:45
schestowitz-TRbut I did not (yet/) know whyApr 09 15:45
Techrights-secMBAs are often very one-dimensional along with the other problemsApr 09 15:46
Techrights-secno depth, just greed and fraudApr 09 15:46
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Techrights-sec"...and can lead to a successful bankruptcy..." [citation omitted]Apr 09 16:08
schestowitz-TRoxymoronApr 09 16:08
schestowitz-TRelop led to a successful demiseApr 09 16:08
schestowitz-TRiirc elop went to some business [sic] school [sic] in canadaApr 09 16:08
schestowitz-TRhaha, if bankruptcy is success, when what is a failure???c   Apr 09 16:08
schestowitz-TR*then what exactly would a failure be? Getting BACK to business?Apr 09 16:08
Techrights-seche was different, the Nokia board lied and signed a unique contract with himApr 09 16:10
Techrights-secgranting him a $25 M bonus if he sold the company to M$.  So he torpedoed everyApr 09 16:10
Techrights-secthing he could and even sold off the headquarters.  When the company was thenApr 09 16:10
Techrights-secon the ropes, M$ bought it for an old song and the board gave Elop his bonus.Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secVery little has been commented in regards to the board's role in Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secsetting the company up for failure.  I speculate that 99% of it was to         Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-seceliminate the Linux-based phone because it was even getting better reviewsApr 09 16:10
Techrights-secthan the iphone at the time.Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secI guess failure would be reinvesting in and growing a business further.Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secYep, failure would be being in business with the money rolling in and Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secbuilding capital and critical skills and experience. Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secFurthermore, businesses (or any institution) cannot keep skilled people, Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secespecially not the best, once a critical threshold is crossed.  MBAs cut Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secinvestments until that threshold gets crossed and then they can Apr 09 16:10
Techrights-secride the company down until they hop off after a "successful bankruptcy"Apr 09 16:10
schestowitz-TRwell, they ruined the most important company in that countryApr 09 16:11
schestowitz-TRand, afaik, also the largest employer except maybe the federal govApr 09 16:11
schestowitz-TRthrough I'm sure in helsinki it's the dominent empoloyerApr 09 16:11
schestowitz-TRso it was not some business ventureApr 09 16:11
schestowitz-TRbut filrting with sedition, treasonApr 09 16:11
schestowitz-TRand moreover aiminmg to sell to the US when you have a vast border , a land border, with russia, is absolutely insaneApr 09 16:11
Techrights-secyep and probably broke quite a few laws but fat chance of getting the boareApr 09 16:13
Techrights-secboard prosecuted Apr 09 16:13
Techrights-sechttps://www.businessinsider.com/people-are-furious-over-accident-that-gave-nokia-ceo-255-million-payday-in-microsoft-sale-2013-9?r=US&IR=TApr 09 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | 'Accident' That Gave Nokia CEO $25.5 Million Payday in Microsoft SaleApr 09 16:13
Techrights-sechttps://www.computerworld.com/article/2474943/stephen-elop-s-reward-for-running-nokia-into-the-ground---25-million.htmlApr 09 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Stephen Elop's reward for running Nokia into the ground: $25 million | ComputerworldApr 09 16:13
Techrights-sechttps://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stephen-elop-to-get-25-5m-for-selling-nokia-to-microsoft-1.1867972Apr 09 16:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbc.ca | Stephen Elop to get $25.5M for selling Nokia to Microsoft | CBC NewsApr 09 16:14
schestowitz-TRLet's see what payday is impending for M. Baker3~Apr 09 16:15
Techrights-sec"Nokia board chairman misled media about size of bonus for ex-CEO..."Apr 09 16:15
Techrights-secshe's cut from the same clothApr 09 16:15
schestowitz-TRlast night I thought abouyt setting up a subdomain and instance of invidious for TRApr 09 16:24
Techrights-secprobablyApr 09 16:24
Techrights-secokApr 09 16:24
schestowitz-TRbut then I lkooked closerApr 09 16:24
schestowitz-TRit's a nuclear thing from a legal perspectiveApr 09 16:24
schestowitz-TRand can even jeopardise the TLDApr 09 16:24
schestowitz-TRas you may have see (git, irc logs), we made an instance randomiserApr 09 16:24
schestowitz-TRi need to change a couple of code filesApr 09 16:37
schestowitz-TRfor handling the changes or the expsnsion of the links in daily linksApr 09 16:37
schestowitz-TRthat should not be hardApr 09 16:37
schestowitz-TRone needs to remove <-- and --> when retreivingApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRthe secnd will need to remove the bitswhen I finaliseApr 09 16:38
Techrights-secwhich ones?Apr 09 16:38
Techrights-secokApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRfor details look at page source of latest techrights postApr 09 16:38
Techrights-secBut does it validate?Apr 09 16:38
Techrights-sec:(Apr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRit looks OK as HTMLApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRI think it'll be converted OK to gemtextApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRbut I am going to use sed, I think,Apr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRvalidation results had 200+ errorsApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRbut because of the commented bitApr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRmaybe I will replace the body of that post soon Apr 09 16:38
schestowitz-TRfor test's sake/purposesApr 09 16:39
schestowitz-TRcould you pls reload today's links with the changes incorporated?Apr 09 16:39
schestowitz-TRI will then see if the bits gets stripped OK at my sideApr 09 16:39
Techrights-secokApr 09 16:45
Techrights-secjust a minuteApr 09 16:45
Techrights-secuploaded but the changes are not there.Apr 09 16:45
Techrights-seclookingApr 09 16:45
Techrights-secre-runningApr 09 16:45
Techrights-secmaybe UTF-8 problem -- againApr 09 16:45
schestowitz-TRI'll fix the UTF-8 in a bit, the rest should be ok?Apr 09 16:47
Techrights-secI'll fix the UTF-8 in a bit, the rest should be ok?Apr 09 16:47
schestowitz-TRoh, now I remember how we did this beforeApr 09 16:49
schestowitz-TRyou were not running interleave scriptApr 09 16:49
schestowitz-TRI ran it only at my endApr 09 16:49
schestowitz-TRbecause it would incorporate additional linksApr 09 16:49
Techrights-seccorrect that script was commented out from the maintenance script hereApr 09 16:49
Techrights-secI'll remove it here againApr 09 16:49
schestowitz-TRAAAif that gets removed, there won't be premade lines for IRCApr 09 16:49
schestowitz-TRi think one simple fix is, at your end the tags get turned off (commented out from the code)Apr 09 16:55
schestowitz-TRand then at my end only, when I run "finalise" that bit is 'toggled on'Apr 09 16:55
schestowitz-TRthat might be a very simple 'hack'fixApr 09 16:55
schestowitz-TRsimpler than running a think to check if a tag exists already Apr 09 16:55
schestowitz-TRwhen I say tag I mean [[[[[Apr 09 16:55
schestowitz-TROK, so basically there is one mode of run where it adds the "lines"Apr 09 16:57
schestowitz-TRand another (final, my side) where it adds all the tagsApr 09 16:57
schestowitz-TRpushed to git a fixApr 09 17:15
schestowitz-TRso basically the issue will be solved if at your end it makes the "line" (same form as in latestApr 09 17:15
schestowitz-TRupload, today's links)Apr 09 17:15
schestowitz-TRand then the tags are added only at my endApr 09 17:15
Techrights-seccheckingApr 09 17:42
schestowitz-TRoneoption might be command line parameter acting like a flagApr 09 17:42
schestowitz-TRor just some variable somewhereApr 09 17:42
schestowitz-TRto keep it from branching off into two separate filesApr 09 17:42
Techrights-secthat's feasible, just have to track down the UTF-8 problem with the moduleApr 09 17:42
schestowitz-TR(just got some epo doc)Apr 09 17:44
schestowitz-TRmay do a video shortlyApr 09 17:44
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Techrights-secackApr 09 17:59
Techrights-secfixed the UTF8 bug Apr 09 18:04
schestowitz-TR:-)Apr 09 18:04
schestowitz-TRit's good that we equip ourselves with s/w and h/w toolsApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRlast night I spent ages on the new laptopApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRthere was a pesky memory leak issueApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRto get under controlApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRi nearly had to reboot but recovered from tty2Apr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRat the moment I back up the site to both laptops, then I will do tuxmachines alsoApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRmy home connection is therefore slowApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRand you may feel that, e.g. over gemini or sshApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TR12 gb done since morningApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRtbh, i still don't know how to cover the patent fudApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRI have until tomorrow to decideApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRI don't want to just ignore it allApr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRas that leaves only zoobabApr 09 18:09
Techrights-secQuiteRSS seems to leakApr 09 18:09
Techrights-secI think cgroups or something could be used to contain itApr 09 18:09
Techrights-secIt's usually quite slow there anyway :/Apr 09 18:09
Techrights-secIgnoring it would not be such a good idea.Apr 09 18:09
Techrights-secHow will zoobab approach the problem?Apr 09 18:09
schestowitz-TRhe can press "like" on tweets...Apr 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRhe has not done a lot latelyApr 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRa "hell of shame"-type approach would in theory workApr 09 18:10
schestowitz-TRbut I don't know how to make that workApr 09 18:10
schestowitz-TR*hallApr 09 18:11
Techrights-secWhat other approaches are on the shortlist?Apr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRone that I tried years ago was,Apr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRtake screenshot of flase articleApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRthan use textual responseApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRbut I am very meticulous with text in the siteApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRas it is not judged like audio and IRCApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRso you cannot do one article per minuteApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRThat's why I started doing videos a month before the strike and a month afterApr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TR8 weeks, 8 partsApr 09 18:15
Techrights-secThat approach sounds good.    It's slower, of course, but docuents the Apr 09 18:15
Techrights-seclies very carefully without feeding them traffic.Apr 09 18:15
Techrights-secand rebuts them.  Apr 09 18:15
schestowitz-TRI will try that tomorrowApr 09 18:16
schestowitz-TRwill put headlines in alt=""Apr 09 18:16
Techrights-secackApr 09 18:20
Techrights-secyes and they have long demonetized anything with "Linux" inthe titleApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRwe are going to see lots of very pissed off vloggers after covid-19Apr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRunder the guise of "facts" gulag is taking things up a notchApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRit started with alex jones, avid ike, stephen mulleneaux (ignore spelling)Apr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRand now they target 'edgy' free software broadcastersApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRlbry is not really the best alternativeApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRfor as plethora of reasonApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRthey hop from blogs to twitter to youtubeApr 09 18:20
schestowitz-TRand thosew ho feel threatened respondApr 09 18:21
schestowitz-TReven freenodeApr 09 18:21
schestowitz-TRchris titus makes a lot of windows shitApr 09 18:21
schestowitz-TRbut he mentioned that "linux" videos get him flaggedApr 09 18:21
schestowitz-TRthat reduces the incentive to even decie to cover the topicApr 09 18:21
Techrights-secthat's most likely their goal ...Apr 09 18:21
Techrights-secsome or all of that appears automatedApr 09 18:22
schestowitz-TRthere is also language controlApr 09 18:23
schestowitz-TRcannnot say shitApr 09 18:23
schestowitz-TRcannot even say ashitpieApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRbecause crime sis OKApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRthe response to crime is "toxicApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRautomatic "moderation" is bestApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRbecause they remove legal issue (liability)Apr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRand it removes costs assopciated with proper analysisApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRlike IBM/Red Hat versus PoockApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRan actual person mentioned 3 conditions IBM failed to fulfilApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TRwith shithub, as noted this morninmg, takedown req = successApr 09 18:24
schestowitz-TR99% of the timeApr 09 18:24
Techrights-secthe soud "linux" ought to be easy for their algorithms to pick up and flagApr 09 18:25
Techrights-secthere are basically no channels to appeal the take down or get a manual reviewApr 09 18:25
schestowitz-TRor almost justb as bad , demonetisedApr 09 18:25
schestowitz-TR"do more of this and you will starve"Apr 09 18:25
schestowitz-TRtry ANOTHER topic insteadApr 09 18:25
schestowitz-TRother topics re "more successful"Apr 09 18:25
Techrights-secyepApr 09 18:26
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schestowitz-TRgulag is the puppy owner sticking the "cointent creators" face in front of the  Apr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TRpiss and the shitApr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TRthe poor puppy (don't kick the puppy!) will leave, over time...Apr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TR"I love you, big brother"Apr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TR*will learn, over timeApr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TRand thias is one of many ways those sites manipulate and shape opinionApr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TRhedges interviews with people like chomsky are all goneApr 09 18:28
schestowitz-TRso people won't learn the "other side"Apr 09 18:28
Techrights-sectheir business goals probably include paying out the least possible amountApr 09 18:29
Techrights-secstockholm syndromeApr 09 18:29
Techrights-secLBRY via Odysee is picking up a lot of vloggers, but it still pays almostApr 09 18:29
Techrights-secnothing due to their playing around with cryptocurrencyApr 09 18:29
Techrights-secWith an empirical fact, there is no "other side", but many don't want people toApr 09 18:29
Techrights-secremember that at all.Apr 09 18:29
schestowitz-TR.nl inflation rose to 12%Apr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRI will cover this shjortlyApr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRalso I'm on shiftApr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRbutbut f* this s*Apr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRI do 1 hour, 2 maxApr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRon shift iwill 1am, samr tomorrowApr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TR /iwill/till/Apr 09 18:32
schestowitz-TRotaApr 09 18:32
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