●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 09, 2021 ●● ● Oct 09 [00:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cspms5dx2has6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:24] schestowitz https://www.reddit.com/r/uwaterloo/comments/kbf5xa/statementrequest_by_richard_stallman_about_his/ [00:24] schestowitz " [00:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Statement/request by Richard Stallman about his recent talk : uwaterloo [00:24] schestowitz At the start of my talk on Dec 4, around 30 people were watching. By [00:24] schestowitz the end, it was around 100. (I hope this doesn't mean people didn't [00:24] schestowitz get notice in advance!) People have asked me to post the recording, [00:24] schestowitz and I will do that. If you would like to watch the talk, you will [00:24] schestowitz have the opportunity. [00:24] schestowitz Would you please do something for me, that will be greatly helpful to [00:24] schestowitz me in my activities? I would like you to show your appreciation for [00:24] schestowitz my work and my ideas at the time I need it most. [00:24] schestowitz I ask you to email the Dean of the Faculty of Mathematics, at [00:24] schestowitz deanmath@uwaterloo.ca, asking the Faculty of Mathematics to host the [00:24] schestowitz recording of my talk. [00:24] schestowitz For instance, you could say, "I ask the Faculty of Mathematics to host [00:24] schestowitz the recording of the talk that Richard Stallman was invited to give to [00:24] schestowitz students of the University of Waterloo. His invitation was canceled [00:24] schestowitz based on false accusations, but he gave the talk anyway. Please show [00:24] schestowitz that his contribution to the university community is appreciated, by [00:24] schestowitz hosting the recording now." Or say whatever you like. [00:24] schestowitz However you say it, please post the same text on the university's [00:24] schestowitz subreddit, so other students can see you ask for this. You can also [00:24] schestowitz tell your friends and acquaintances who have a relationship to the [00:24] schestowitz university. [00:24] schestowitz If this were a matter of rational argument, a single convincing [00:24] schestowitz argument would be enough. Alas, it isn't like that -- it will [00:24] schestowitz probably take many statements of support to persuade the dean. So if [00:24] schestowitz you see that others have sent these messages, don't think that "It's [00:24] schestowitz already done." Please add one more. [00:24] schestowitz " [00:25] schestowitz https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BzI7wqUBZbkJ:https://libredd.it/r/uwaterloo/comments/k35jw5/richard_stallman_is_being_falsely_accused_of/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webcache.googleusercontent.com | Richard Stallman is being falsely accused of things he did not do - r/uwaterloo [00:25] schestowitz " [00:25] schestowitz Richard Stallman is being falsely accused of things he did not do Serious [00:25] schestowitz I like to consider myself a progressive person, and I see what everyone is saying here against Richard Stallman. [00:25] schestowitz But these accusations that he is misogynist or a defender of pedophilia or a defender of sexual assault are wrong. [00:25] schestowitz Have a look at these please (and read them completely, please. I have read every single word of Selam G's medium blog posts, and out of respect for that, I would ask that you read the entirety of these two web pages before commenting. Not enough people are reading everything, which is leading to misconceptions. Read everything and decide everything for yourself): [00:25] schestowitz https://blog.dachary.org/2020/02/10/how-the-cancel-culture-was-leveraged-against-rms/ [00:25] schestowitz https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/index.html [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.dachary.org | How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS Loc Dachary [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sterling-archermedes.github.io | Low grade "journalists" and internet mob attack RMS with lies. In-depth review. [00:25] schestowitz Richard Stallman had views on a topic which is considered controversial (sexism, prostitution, racism), and none of his views them defended pedophilia or misogyny or sexual assault, but taken out of context, they seemed that way. [00:25] schestowitz If you have actually read both of those web pages, you will understand what I mean. I know that even despite me telling people to read them in their entirety, some people will not. So here is a summary with things heavily copied and pasted from the sources above: [00:25] schestowitz Claim: Richard Stallman defended sexual assault [00:25] schestowitz No. According to source #2: "There was a Facebook event calling for a protest regarding donations Jeffrey Epstein made to MIT. Stallman objected to the wording of the description of the event. Objecting to choices of words is something he is known for doing, he is a philosopher after all." The wording of the event was basically saying that Marvin Minsky sexually assaulted Giuffre, which Stallman disagreed with. [00:25] schestowitz The email was regarding this report by the verge:https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20798900/marvin-minsky-jeffrey [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | AI pioneer Marvin Minsky accused of sex with Epstein trafficking victim - The Verge [00:25] schestowitz You will see in this article that Giuffre was directed by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with Minsky. Is this equivalent to Minsky assaulting Giuffre? Think about this yourselves. If A tells B to have sex with C, C assaulted B? The Facebook post sensationalized "Giuffre being directed to have sex with Marvin" as "Marvin assaulted Giuffre". Why? It makes very little sense to me, and it made very little sense to Dr. Stallman as well. Dr. [00:25] schestowitz Stallman used to be a colleague of Marvin Minsky from what I understand, and I would also defend any colleague of mine who was wrongly accused of sexual assault by a sensationalized Facebook post. Is defending someone who is wrongly accused of being "guilty" where the principle is that "innocent until proven guilty" the wrong thing to do? [00:25] schestowitz To this date, it has not been confirmed that Marvin Minsky even had sex with Giuffre. Read the section on Marvin's Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky#Association_with_Jeffrey_Epstein, and you might think it is way more likely that Marvin did not have sex with Giuffre, as quoting the sources Wikipedia used (you may verify these yourselves): " There has been no allegation that sex between them took place nor a [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Marvin Minsky - Wikipedia [00:25] schestowitz lawsuit against Minsky's estate.[49] Minsky's widow, Gloria Rudisch, says that he could not have had sex with any of the women at Epstein's residences, as they were always together during all of the visits to Epstein's residences.[50][51] " [00:25] schestowitz Claim: Richard Stallman defends pedophiles and pedophilia. [00:25] schestowitz No. Here is what he says (summary: he is saying Epstein is a serial rapist and should have a longer sentence) [00:25] schestowitz (Now) Labor Secretary Acosta's plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein was not only extremely lenient, it was so lenient that it was illegal. [00:25] schestowitz I wonder whether this makes it possible to resentence him to a longer prison term. [00:25] schestowitz I disagree with some of what the article says about Epstein. Epstein is not, apparently, a pedophile, since the people he raped seem to have all been postpuberal. [00:25] schestowitz By contrast, calling him a sex offender tends to minimize his crimes, since it groups him with people who committed a spectrum of acts of varying levels of gravity. Some of them were not crimes. Some of these people didn't actually do anything to anyone. [00:25] schestowitz I think the right term for a person such as Epstein is serial rapist. [00:25] schestowitz What he is disagreeing with is the fact that the word pedophilia has been used differently than the definition in most dictionaries. [00:25] schestowitz https://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.britannica.com | pedophilia | Definition & Facts | Britannica [00:25] schestowitz https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia#1 [00:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.webmd.com | What is Pedophilia: FAQ on Pedophiles and Pedophilia [00:25] schestowitz Both the above (which I think are some of the most reputable sources I could find online; Encyclopedia Britannica and WebMD have been around for ages and everyone consults these sources for basically everything), basically say that pedophilia is defined as sex or interest in sex by adults with prepubescent children, which they define as "generally aged 13 or younger". All the minors that Epstein seemed to have raped were above 13 years [00:26] schestowitz of age. [00:26] schestowitz Stallman thus says Epstein is not a pedophile, since that is not how the term is defined. He also says Epstein is a serial rapist and should be sentenced to much longer prison term, something that I personally agree with as well. [00:26] schestowitz Read the sources 1 and 2 for more information on his comments on pedophilia. They are all covered in these sources, so please just read them. I am too tired to copy-paste them over, but he is not endorsing the practice. [00:26] schestowitz Claim: Richard Stallman is a misogynist. [00:26] schestowitz Likely, this accusation is being made because of some of the quotes and pictures that Selam G. posted. These quotes all seem to be made decades ago, with probably the most controversial one from 1985. There is no source mentioned for these quotes at all, so I don't know how Selam G. managed to get the testimonies of people who are probably 60-70 years old by now. [00:26] schestowitz The picture of the sign in front of his office did not say "also: hot ladies". This was later added by an unknown person, as mentioned in source #1. [00:26] schestowitz For the rest of the quotes, it is explained in Source #2. Again, please read both these sources in their entirety. [00:26] schestowitz The only real questionable quote seems to be this one at the end which was about 1985 apparently: [00:26] schestowitz When I was a teen freshman, I went to a buffet lunch at an Indian restaurant in Central Square with a graduate student friend and others from the AI lab. I don't know if he and I were the last two left, but at a table with only the two of us, Richard Stallman told me of his misery and that he'd kill himself if I didn't go out with him. [00:26] schestowitz I felt bad for him and also uncomfortable and manipulated. I did not like being put in that position suddenly responsible for an important man. What had I done to get into this situation? I decided I could not be responsible for his living or dying, and would have to accept him killing himself. I declined further contact. [00:26] schestowitz He was not a man of his word or he'd be long dead. [00:26] schestowitz - Betsy S., Bachelor's in Management Science, '85 [00:26] schestowitz I agree that this is bad. Source #2 mentions this about this quote above: [00:26] schestowitz "The next story does sound inappropriate by today stardards but something that is unacceptable today could have been perfectly fine in 1985 (when it happened). Even if it had happened today, I don't think this alone could justify everything that is being done to Stallman. I say this alone because, as we've seen, the rest are lies and mis-characterizations." [00:26] schestowitz With which I do agree. What is more is that this kind of thing only seems to have happened in 1985 and not in the 35 years since? Stallman made a mistake once, he is not a perfect human being at all. I know a couple of high school friends who have threatened to kill themselves in order to get their way during a relationship or romance as well. Does this make them misogynists? It is terrible behaviour from Stallman, and it happened once [00:26] schestowitz in 35 years, if it did happen (again, Selam G. mentions no source for these quotes). [00:26] schestowitz This personally makes me scared as well. I was once a very depressed student and during the time that I was depressed I was thinking about suicide every single day, and am sure made some comments about death or romance that made someone uncomfortable. Should I be cancelled due to that one mistake when I was not mentally well? I don't know what Stallman's life was like when he made this comment or if he was suffering from mental illness. [00:26] schestowitz We need to be a bit more kind. He did not sexually assault this woman, if that's what you are concerned about either. Stallman has never been accused of sexual assault or misconduct, unlike billionaires with lawyers to defend them, such as someone like Donald Trump. [00:26] schestowitz All in all, the way the world is headed is scaring me. Stallman even lost his home because of all this misinterpretation by tabloid "journalists" who twist the facts (see here)). What a travesty of free speech we have created with this culture that we endorse. [00:26] schestowitz I am not a lawyer, but I think Richard Stallman should explore suing for defamation here. This entire defamation episode has cost him his job and respect in the community by people who have twisted his words. [00:26] schestowitz Next time you see some controversy, please read both sides of the arguments and see what both sides have to say. As I said, I have read both sides, including both of Selam G.'s blog posts, in their entirety. I know that many of you will not even read the sources or even this far into this Reddit post, but if you do, you can now consider both sides when forming your opinion. Sensationalist titles of news articles or blogs do us no good in the [00:26] schestowitz quest of procuring facts. I hate that this is what we have come to as a society. [00:26] schestowitz " ● Oct 09 [02:57] Techrights-sec https://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_24.html [02:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-httpd.apache.org | Apache HTTP Server 2.4 vulnerabilities - The Apache HTTP Server Project [02:58] schestowitz-TR wait [02:58] Techrights-sec ok [02:59] schestowitz-TR are all these packages going to be be changed? Also, are the servers delivering up to date packages? it's old EPEL. ● Oct 09 [03:00] Techrights-sec it appears so. I am not experiences in CentOS, so there may be quirks [03:00] Techrights-sec however, see URL above [03:00] schestowitz-TR I saw that 2 days ago in CISA [03:01] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156505#comment-31285 [03:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, and More | Tux Machines [03:03] Techrights-sec Yes, it has been a while [03:03] Techrights-sec TM comments are not visible [03:03] Techrights-sec \ [03:03] schestowitz-TR you always had this issue, which is odd as it's part of plain HTML [03:04] schestowitz-TR It says "Submitted", not "comments" [03:05] Techrights-sec I can see the post, just not anh comments. [03:05] Techrights-sec Anyway the patch seems to still be outstanding on TR at least. [03:05] schestowitz-TR yes, true, but in case the other updates make something break it's good to have a fallback ready [03:06] schestowitz-TR BTWm,, funny story: [03:07] schestowitz-TR I wrongly assumed tmux was available, pressed ctrl+z to restart an irc bot, only then I noticed I had interfered with someone else's processes, that took some seconds to realise [03:10] schestowitz rather than surprising that centos would want to update gtk2 on a` headless server, but gtk/gdk used to be more than gui, maybe that's still the case [03:10] Techrights-sec ack [03:10] Techrights-sec yes, ctrl-z and ctrl-c and ctrl-s ... [03:10] Techrights-sec one becomes dependent and used to tmux [03:10] Techrights-sec it looks like a full reboot would be required. [03:11] schestowitz some months ago after a reboot systemd barfed and intervention by kaniini was needed to get it going again. Actually, it was a brownout rather than reboot [03:12] Techrights-sec can we book time for kaniini to be available? I'd rather not put this off. [03:12] schestowitz I will ask now... [03:12] Techrights-sec Thanks. [03:13] schestowitz I did not look into the technical details of it, but to what extent would fronting the apache back end with up to date varnish/nginx improve safety? [03:15] Techrights-sec I have not looked into the details. The varnish front-end would [03:15] Techrights-sec probably help with performance. [03:15] schestowitz those can also be used to block dodgy requests [03:15] Techrights-sec Proof-of-concept code is seldom included [03:15] Techrights-sec any more. [03:16] schestowitz twitter used to delete all tweets of mine that linked to some code, even if merely sec research sites [03:17] Techrights-sec Yes varnish can filter a bit. [03:17] Techrights-sec nothign good to say about twitter here [03:26] Techrights-sec """ [03:26] Techrights-sec The danger of the vulnerability mitigates the fact that the problem manifests itself only in the recently [03:26] Techrights-sec released version 2.4.49 and does not affect all earlier releases. [03:26] Techrights-sec """ [03:26] Techrights-sec https://www.itsfoss.net/vulnerability-in-apache-http-server/ [03:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itsfoss.net | Vulnerability in Apache http server 2.4.49 allowing files outside of the site root to be retrieved - itsfoss.net [03:28] schestowitz it is outside my scrollback range now, but I wrote in social control media that this bugs proves, don't rush to use the latest and greatest. I wrote that 2 days ago. [03:28] schestowitz same applies to wordpress BTW, we use a patched old version. also TM [03:29] schestowitz the databases are in a new alpine container, php might be a risk [03:34] Techrights-sec yet incremental chainges are often easier to work through than [03:34] Techrights-sec monumental sea changes [03:35] schestowitz don't misunderstand my tone (I cannot be heard in text), but I think we need to aim at replacing the whole OS piecewise and not risk breaking it while we do the 28-part EPO series, which took tons of work [03:36] Techrights-sec ok [03:36] Techrights-sec how and when? [03:36] schestowitz kaniini said something about php versions and all, which is one challenge [03:36] schestowitz applicable to both TR and TM [03:37] Techrights-sec yes, I looked into that a few years ago. i've forotten the details [03:37] Techrights-sec but it was possible to update either WP or hold back to a patched PHP [03:38] schestowitz good to know, another think kaniini wants to do is change the stack a bit, e.g. get rid of apache [03:39] Techrights-sec I consider WP a liability in and of itself at this point regardless of version [03:39] Techrights-sec Sure. Apache2 is not the best any more. What would be the replacement? [03:40] schestowitz one of the niche players, but I need to check is all the redirects and stuff are doable in it, plus it integrates better with web-facing monitoring panel (which I did not ask for) [03:44] Techrights-sec It has a powerful rewrite engine but no sites ever take advantage of it [03:44] Techrights-sec and always break their old links when "migrating" [03:44] Techrights-sec web-facing monitoring panel usually is a euphamism for javascript [03:44] schestowitz it starts small and simple, then gets fat, yes, with load passed to the client end [03:45] schestowitz today I accessed IA (for reasons I will make known later) and it was all a JS mess [03:48] Techrights-sec yes, IA is in a precarious junction, if the web goes all-in on javascript [03:48] Techrights-sec then they will have nothing they can actually archive but placeholders [03:48] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/04/23/microsoft-walking-among-patents/ [03:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Software Patents in Codecs, Web Font DRM, and Likewise-HP | Techrights [03:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2013/01/31/drm-in-html5/ [03:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Warning: DRM in HTML5, Its Microsoft Again | Techrights [03:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2014/05/24/drm-on-text/ [03:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | DRM on Text in Mozilla Firefox Not Ruled Out | Techrights ● Oct 09 [04:01] schestowitz ot: based on what I hear from family, usland rapidly develops into fullblown shithole of rude people and other nonsense [04:03] schestowitz manning is trying to move to canada now, barrett brown to uk. i think rms has long wanted to move to europe [04:03] schestowitz us used to be where asylum seekers applied to, now they flee the place [04:07] activelow maybe not ot: it is a legal question. "greencard" and similar, and requirements to relocate. [04:07] schestowitz Trump: my friends go to Africa to get rich (pillage the place). Seems like what happened to America itself. And the cannon fodder write off the debt for grifters while going to work and doing two jobs around the clock. [04:07] schestowitz *going to war, not work, or both [04:08] activelow in germany asylum, geneva refugee, legal working immigrant, and illegal immigrant is distinguished [04:09] activelow inside EU inhabitants more or less may freely roam [04:10] activelow anyway, once a request for asylum was made, altering the legal basis isn't trivial or impossible, to re-designate as working immigrant [04:10] activelow asylum seekers often have no permit to work [04:10] activelow however this is enforced, because labor is regulated, taxation and social security fees mandatory - nitty gritty details [04:12] activelow if asylum is rejected a geneva "subsidiary protection" status can be granted, without the right to re-unite family [04:14] activelow "greens" and "social democrats" altered some legislation, which i am not sure how this affects the legal status, since children born in germany are registered as german [04:18] activelow on top of this, vaccination passports now, fees for mandatory testing [04:18] Techrights-sec yes, uneducated nonsense; since the reagan administration began an [04:18] Techrights-sec all out asault on teaching and knowledge, it has morphed into an asault [04:18] Techrights-sec on competency; however, the baseline of education is too low among the [04:18] Techrights-sec general population for a republic to be maintained; but that's moot [04:18] Techrights-sec since it has been acknowledged as a oligarchy for more than a few years now; [04:18] Techrights-sec Aaland might be a decend destination since he had concerns about being [04:18] Techrights-sec inside the EU proper. [04:18] Techrights-sec ^decent [04:18] Techrights-sec ^land [04:18] Techrights-sec moscow mitch and trump and the others like them are softening the country [04:18] Techrights-sec up on behalf of their owners; Europe is not home free, some of the key [04:18] Techrights-sec vehicles for shifting control over a scale of generations are present already; [04:18] Techrights-sec commercial television and now social control media. [04:18] Techrights-sec no idea any more; besides most rural areas are impoverished and most [04:18] Techrights-sec urban areas are becoming war zones, economic if not also physical [04:18] Techrights-sec primates learn by metaphor and observation; all people see on television [04:18] Techrights-sec (incl. netflix and streaming in that category) and social control media [04:18] Techrights-sec is people tearing each other down for the approval of an oligarch or two; [04:18] Techrights-sec the public has taken those practices to heart over the last decades; [04:19] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [04:21] activelow besides, immigrating into Europe poses another challenge: Languages, french, german, italian, czech, polish, russian, hungarian, dutch .... choose any [04:22] activelow a permit for prolonged stay may or may not require to learn the language and pass some test ● Oct 09 [06:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 09 [09:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:21] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:42] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 09 [10:15] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cspms5dx2has6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [11:41] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:48] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [12:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:38] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 09 [13:04] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:18] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:22] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:54] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:54] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 09 [14:11] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [14:11] schestowitz-TR funny/nice to see our gemini toolset now has its own user-agent, too [14:11] schestowitz-TR let's hope others will gradually adopt some of these tools and keep them out there (agpl) [14:12] Techrights-sec Yes, I finally fixed the string. It had extra quotes and something [14:12] Techrights-sec weird in the process, outside the agent itself, was making the quotes worse. [14:13] schestowitz-TR I run a refresh after every "major" post and then it takes 5-10 mins to complete; I made slight enhancement to the deskop-side call [14:13] Techrights-sec I hope the tools are useful, but I think they are so site specific that [14:13] Techrights-sec they can't do much more than serve as a model. [14:14] schestowitz-TR if they are like prototypes, like examples in some textbook, maybe someone can build a framework with these as starting point [14:16] Techrights-sec A framwork is a lot of complexity. Gemini is simple, one-offs are [14:16] Techrights-sec probably much less work than figuring out a framework and then customizing [14:16] Techrights-sec it extensively. [14:17] Techrights-sec SLOC Directory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted) [14:17] Techrights-sec 4191 Links perl=4122,sh=69 [14:17] Techrights-sec 2103 Gemini perl=1447,sh=656 [14:17] Techrights-sec 643 IPFS sh=447,python=196 [14:17] Techrights-sec 334 Desktop-Utils sh=334 [14:17] Techrights-sec 186 IRC sh=95,perl=91 [14:17] Techrights-sec 65 sbin-tm sh=65 [14:17] Techrights-sec 15 sbin sh=15 [14:17] Techrights-sec Totals grouped by language (dominant language first): [14:17] Techrights-sec perl: 5660 (75.10%) [14:17] Techrights-sec sh: 1681 (22.30%) [14:17] Techrights-sec python: 196 (2.60%) [14:17] Techrights-sec Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 7,537 [14:17] schestowitz-TR it this is easily reproducible on the pi side, maybe we should have that being output to the gemini space? maybe once a week? [14:18] schestowitz-TR *if [14:19] Techrights-sec It should be just a matteer of adding David A Wheeler's sloccount package [14:19] Techrights-sec and then wrapping the call in a script and then pointing to the script [14:19] Techrights-sec in a cron job. [14:19] schestowitz-TR do you want me to have a go at it? [14:19] Techrights-sec Sure or I can, if you add the package. It should be a quick task. [14:20] schestowitz-TR adding [14:20] schestowitz-TR added [14:22] schestowitz-TR I saw some other git-centric capsules, but we have more features than them [14:22] schestowitz Most common capsules by number of working URLs [14:22] schestowitz * gemini.techrights.org: 10000 URLs [14:22] schestowitz * gemini.rob-bolton.co.uk: 9999 URLs [14:22] schestowitz * git.sysrq.in: 9995 URLs [14:22] schestowitz * gemini.conman.org: 9973 URLs [14:23] schestowitz 10,000 means we get perfect fetch record; lately, no other capsule had a fidelity this high (maybe 2-3 weeks now) [14:33] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/sloc.gmi [14:33] schestowitz-TR nice! does anything link to it yet? [14:35] Techrights-sec Not yet, I'll add a link from the Git index [14:35] schestowitz-TR Thanks, I'll link to the page now [14:36] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/ [14:36] schestowitz-TR you put it exactly where I too thought it fit best [14:36] Techrights-sec np [14:36] Techrights-sec I'll add it to Git now :) [14:44] Techrights-sec Ok, cron it updated too now [14:44] schestowitz-TR thanks a lot, I'm finalising daily links now. Today we do LUX in the EPO series, tomorrow UK/Ireland [14:45] Techrights-sec The national news sites ought to take an interest, but I have no idea how to [14:45] Techrights-sec reach such understaffed and, possibly, compromised groups. [14:46] schestowitz-TR some did cover it around 2015, but a lot changed since then [14:47] schestowitz-TR Also with far fewer freedoms. 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