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    Here's how to setup your own Microsoft 365 alternative
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    Thats where Collabora Online comes into play. As its name suggests, Collabora Online allows you to edit documents collaboratively. The app is based on LibreOffice and provides a very rich editing experience that works with popular proprietary formats such as .DOC, .DOCX, .XLSX, and more, as well as open formats such as the open document format (ODF).

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    Collabora Online works right inside the web browsers, which makes it an apt-replacement for proprietary office suite services, such as Office 365 and Google Docs. Best of all, the office suite is available in several self-hosted versions, which makes it an ideal option for privacy-conscious users to collaborate on confidential documents with your colleagues without uploading them to remote services.

    • [07:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.techradar.com/how-to/heres-how-to-setup-your-own-microsoft-365-alternative">Here's ) ● Oct 10 [09:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:05] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:36] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 10 [10:02] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [10:03] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [10:03] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [10:03] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [10:03] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:19] *rianne (~rianne@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:28] *qa2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:32] *qa2 (~sid145515@frp6gv52kp9fi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:39] schestowitz-TR had outage due to bad oven, won't use it anymore, pi booted for first time in months, I think all services are back but if something does not work, then it's worth bearing in mind it changed ip address and was reset [10:50] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:50] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:51] *rianne (~rianne@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:52] *liberty_box (~liberty@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:53] Techrights-sec can't the home router re-assign the same IP address? [10:53] Techrights-sec Or did that go down, too? [10:54] schestowitz-TR I asked BT (this year) about static/reserved IP, but there's no way they'll give that to residential customers. I tried several times. Short of UPS for just the router, there's no way around it, but we know the culprit (second time in a year; two strikes is enough.... not a new oven) ● Oct 10 [11:15] Techrights-sec How many amps is the oven drawing and how much is that part of the house's [11:15] Techrights-sec wiring rated for? [11:16] schestowitz-TR I haven't the faintest clue. One thing we noticed though is, after the last such outage (caused by the oven) its heating capacity went down sharpy. You'd need to aim higher for the dial to get the same temps as before. [11:29] Techrights-sec The new appliances are engineered to last about 4 maybe 5 years maximum. [11:30] schestowitz-TR yes, a known problem... for now we'll use hob/cooker where possible. I don't like microwave, but one is fitted in already. [11:32] schestowitz-TR the only upside of this "utter shit" outage is that it's like a drill/practice on a quiet Sunday and I improve my methods/notes for service recovery. Some of these notes can be shared if tidied up a bit, but physical access is often needed. [11:34] Techrights-sec Yes, at least the timing was reasonably convenient. [11:35] schestowitz-TR rianne is on shift, but on an average shift of mine it's under one hour of actual work. for her, maybe 2-3 because she is slower and more diligent. [11:35] Techrights-sec What about baking then? [11:36] schestowitz-TR baking will be an issue [11:36] Techrights-sec Easy work, high pay, short hours, close to home? [11:36] schestowitz-TR work at home [11:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:37] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:41] Techrights-sec Our refridgerator and our stove/oven should last a few more years but the new [11:41] Techrights-sec ones are reportedly utter crap. I don't think that they will improve much if [11:41] Techrights-sec at all between now and the time we need to buy replacements. [11:42] schestowitz-TR I still have a stereo in the 'gym' (living room) that barely works but works, still, for aux and tuner, since 1994. It's Samsung. [11:46] *rianne (~rianne@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:48] *liberty_box (~liberty@88r255v3cjkdy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:59] Techrights-sec I wish I still had the loudspeakers and amplifier I had a long time ago. [11:59] Techrights-sec They'e still good but too big to ship so I gave them away. They still work [11:59] Techrights-sec and sound better than anything on the market I've heard lately. [11:59] Techrights-sec That leads into the probably GPL violations found in "sound bar" products. [11:59] Techrights-sec They seem rather complex and outward signs suggest that they use at least [11:59] Techrights-sec Linux if not also some GNU. However, LF has basically told all the world's ● Oct 10 [12:00] Techrights-sec corporations to ignore the GPL. [12:00] Techrights-sec Tried with some help to get the source for a router based on OpenWRT but [12:00] Techrights-sec they just told the investigators to fuck off. [12:00] Techrights-sec Many in business are zero-sum-gamers and believe that for someone to win [12:00] Techrights-sec someone else must lose, and the converse. So they appear to think that [12:00] Techrights-sec by making people lose out on their reightful freedom they are somehow, [12:00] Techrights-sec somewhere making a winner. [12:00] Techrights-sec At least that's my interpretation of their behavior and statements. [12:01] schestowitz-TR we used to chase samsung for gpl violations and brad kuhn sort of told us off for it. Maybe for stepping on "his" business... 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Can that be upgraded to a separate line? [22:00] Techrights-sec It'd be disruptive for a day or so but safer and in the long run more reliable. [22:01] schestowitz I wondered the same thing for quite some time now [22:05] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/breaking-mercer-review-on-uk-patent.html?showComment=1633873354924#c3995758038454057023 [22:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Mercer Review on UK patent attorney exams released - The IPKat [22:05] schestowitz "Especially as the "Examiner's remarks" usually aren't really worth much - they typically just contain scathing remarks that the candidates failed solely because they weren't good enough to pass. " [22:05] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/breaking-mercer-review-on-uk-patent.html?showComment=1633875997487#c1254292746198197 [22:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Mercer Review on UK patent attorney exams released - The IPKat [22:05] schestowitz "This is a very good point- getting more detailed examiner's reports/ mark schemes is the only guidance candidates have for is expected in FD4. The exam is already totally changeable year on year with goalposts moving at random - having no mark scheme seems a backwards step." [22:05] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/breaking-mercer-review-on-uk-patent.html?showComment=1633878887839#c2635627609154629165 [22:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Mercer Review on UK patent attorney exams released - The IPKat [22:05] schestowitz " [22:05] schestowitz For an organisation which prides itself in the scientific training of its membership, the comment in the Mercer report that the reports analysing statistics on PEB examinations written by Julia Gwilt indicated that candidates who had passed FC1 were more successful than other candidates is surprising. Julia Gilwits report from 2019 actually noted that there were no statistically significant differences in the pass rates between [22:05] schestowitz candidates taking different routes and indeed in 2018 the pass rate in FD4 for candidates who did not take the PEB route was actually higher than for those who did. Rather other factors, such as the level of experience of trainees sitting the exams and the training and support that they received were much more important. [22:05] schestowitz Too many of the reports proposals seem ill thought through and unduly prescriptive. It is nave at best to think that the current university providers will happily convert their current courses into examination prep for a CIPA exam. If they do not then candidates will simply end up sitting exams twice, once to satisfy the university providers and then again to satisfy CIPA. Or else, the university providers will shut up shop and the burden [22:05] schestowitz to teaching trainees the basics of intellectual property law will be handed back to the profession. [22:05] schestowitz Similarly, abolishing the EQE exemption would also mean more exams all round. An easy thing to propose if you are already qualified, less attractive if you arent, ignoring that is the time and costs which will be involved in getting trainees prepared for the exams and getting those exams marked. [22:05] schestowitz Is this really what the profession needs now, given that the vast majority of the work undertaken by the larger training firms now is before the EPO and not the UKIPO? [22:05] schestowitz " ● Oct 10 [23:02] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell