IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 10, 2022

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I assume he's also back in Twitter, but did not check

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Anything he says is not credible.

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he posted a new video in YoiuTube just now...

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desperate for audience

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Probably. I guess at this point it is necessary to admit that he is completely

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full of shit and should be 99% - 100% ignored.

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If he wanted an audience, he should work on some actual relevant content

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not just blathering and bloviations. They might be amusing once or twice, for

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some subset of the population, but without any substance there is no reason

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to even check on what he is doing. Along those lines, some weeks ago I notice

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that I hadn't even been checking his RSS feed and then moved his feed into

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a subfolder for defunct feeds. :/

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It's been there in that folder since...

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I wish him well and would prefer that he would refocus on FOSS-related topics

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once again.

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But if I want blather I can talk to myself / think outloud just fine on my

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own without Youtube.

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yesterday fossforce was brought up

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it used to raise funds and had ken starks on

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then it became an anti-FSF bbyfield dump

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then some other thins

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like "quiz"

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that stopped about a month ago

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the site's purpose is unknown

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then there are some sites I followed for years -- sites that were OK

Oct 10 08:38

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they started experimenting with SEO spam and spamfarming

Oct 10 08:38

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really awful

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like, what do they think? Longtime readers won't notice?

Oct 10 08:39

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Then there's spamnil turning muktware/themukky/linuxveda into a junkfarm of proprietary people, "tfir"

Oct 10 08:39

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I've wondered about Ken from time to time, now that he is reaching the

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end of the trail and cannot participate in anything any more. His programme

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ReGlue was great

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Now I wonder what / how FOSSForce and many other sites have been turned so

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hostile to FOSS and, in particular, Software Freedom and how they have come

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to thrive on disinformation on many topics.

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some years ago phil shapio (son of unicef exec iirc) and roblimo did work with fossforce

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that was before bbyfield took over for 1-2 years

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to better understand fossforce now see the rms cancel letter, the LF ads in fossforce (diploma mills)

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then contrast with older fossforce articles about how LF sucks

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what changed the policy?

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billg and epstein at mit?

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lf donating $100,000,000 to community devs?

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rms eating babies?

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about to finish my 3rd night shift in a row, will have 3 days off after this

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ack

Oct 10 08:56

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Roblimo died a while back.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rip-robin-roblimo-miller

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The second generation is dying off / retiring. The newer generations have

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been indoctrinated in anti-FOSS and even anti-OSS attitudes since their

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earliest days, so there are as a result very, very few skilled people in

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxjournal.com | RIP Robin "Roblimo" Miller | Linux Journal

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computing coming in to replace anyone.

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some old timers too participated in the coup

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so age groups are not the best criterion for pro- or anti-

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joe barr died ages ago

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i reckon his linux.com articles are gone or lost in a sea of webspam

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Yes, thus the reference to disinformation further above.

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Yes, Barr was another important author. There were never any public details of

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his sudden demise.

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Some of his articles are still around, but likely buried, as you point out.

https://www.linux.com/news/my-first-10-years-linux/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-My first 10 years with Linux - Linux.com

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I showed what happens whewn you search linux.com for microsoft

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I think the word "shrine" in the the title in case you want to find that

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That aritcle mentions another publication, Infoworld, which used to cover FOSS

Oct 10 09:06

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Infoworld editor is a Microsoft boosters since a decade back

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Paul

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Between 1 and 2 decades ago, pretty much all the publications were subsumed or

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shutdown. Most authors, at least the ones with a clue, were fired as far

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as I can tell.

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Back then 2 hours was not even enough to do more than partially cover headlines

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Now it is enough to cover *all* of them in the last 24 hours plus leave time

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over to read some of the more promising one in full while skimming many of the

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rest.

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idea:

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we did breakdown by sources beforef

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for daily links

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sort sets by year

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for linux news

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then analyse % that is blogs

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MSM

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and others

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plot difference

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in TM< we used to have many MSM or "tech press" links

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now it's mostly blogs

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this idea is only theoretical to 'make a point'

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no need to work hard to show what many people uintuitivelyt know already

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It'd have to exclude the automated links.

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That'd be some effort, tere are over 4k sites:

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$ grep -c '=>' ./Links/lib/CamelCase.pm

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4068

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I wonder if it would be appropriate to modify the CamelCase.pm module

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to include categories for the type of source. Two downsides are that it would

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bloat the hell out of that file and it would take an enornmous amount of

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work to set up and then increase the amount of effort to maintain the whole thing

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I was actually thinking maybe we should add site name to links in <li> in TM

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like we do in TR daily links

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it would be better use of time and require no annotation of sites

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NewsForge was rather good for many years but shut down suddenly, too.

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Adding site names to links in <li> in TM would take a similar amount of

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ongong maintenance as happens in TR. The work flow is build the list of links,

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check the domains against the list of know bad sites, edit & repeat, check

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the domains against the list of known sites, add missing sites, repeat,

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fetch the automated links, merge the two files, cull empty nodes, then upload

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link diversity or source diversity is a lot smaller in TM

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so a few hundreds of domain would cover almost all links

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can just be a parser looking for <a href="domain

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and then preciding that with site "name"

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The parser part is easy. The hard part is the list of domains.

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lol mastodon giving blank pages to falkon

Oct 10 09:23

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browser compatibility does not matter to them

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open standards are inapplicable to JS

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you can work around accessibility needs and standars

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just turn site into "app"

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and say it's "modern" and "app"

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problem solved

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git log TuxMachines/ReadOn.pm

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Open standards do not matter to them. Just download Chrome and only run it on

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Vista11

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$ git log TuxMachines/ReadOn.pm

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shows little maintenance

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beyond an intial setup

chunky

MY PENIS IS SMALL

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We can move that to Python if necessary but that data is what determines the

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ability to add domains to the text preceding or following a link

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over in TR:

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$ git rev-list --count HEAD -- ./Links/lib/CamelCase.pm

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214

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that it because it has been around for a long time and gets used 2-5 times per day

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ATM, in TM it's mostly used if rianne or arindam or ocean guy post a link with a button

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$ git rev-list --since 2022-08-01 --count HEAD -- ./CamelCase.pm

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seems the media now gets weaponised against people it cannotn derank or deplatform in social control media

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and any study about mrna that does not favour the promises originall made (

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that two shots, then 3, then 4... would solve the issue) is treated like "crank" stuff

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using the straw man and the tribalism of US politiccs

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this is disgusting

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this tirbvalism tainted science now

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apparently they're back to bill gates "says" puff pieces

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and then they wonder why their "bews" sites collapse

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*news

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this and other stuff invades the irc channel again

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because of the troll who was muted last year

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the person who said "transphobic shit" needs another "card" for a grudge

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and off-putting "content"

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The banksters have promoted their bullshit as of a few minutes ago to

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rationalise the crises they have themselves made.

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Yes that is the right term, weaponised.

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The legitimate prize series, the one that was last week, had dealt with

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DNA

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^Pää bo

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The tribalism, like many other problems, got its serious start in the Reagan

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administration. Social control media has given the Kremlin additional

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abilities to divide.

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can you pls provide a link re banks and crises?

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I'm not reading 'politics' in real time (takes 1 day) and thus lack context

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we're surviving by being 'external' to most of the "system" since end of 2020 when covid-19

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went out of control again, and never contained since

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rianne noticed how the john campbell videos become fully peperred with him reiciing

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goulag guidelines in self-defence

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*peppered

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oral-history/financial-crisis/tags/subprime-mortgages/

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There are also a bunch of academic papers as PDFs but I can't go through

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them individually and evaluate them properly.

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pbs.org | Subprime Mortgages & the Housing Bubble | Oral Histories | FRONTLINE | PBS

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BillBS

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have not clicked yet

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but the banksters will probably blame "lazy people" and "nature/china" (covid) for their own illegal actions

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there is BillPR

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BillBC

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and BillBS

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e.g.

https://osuva.uwasa.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/11684/THESIS_UVA_2020_NASKI_LEENA.pdf

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https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2010/201020/201020pap.pdf

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Oct 10 11:13

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I'm still miffed as to how to obtain, analyse and calculate efficacy

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given that not everyone got the same product

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adn data is becoming more scarce over time

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but the sampelr set is vast e.g. death certs for almost 50 million english subjects

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I don't suppose universities get many grants to study these things

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"it happened in the past, let it be..."

Oct 10 11:20

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"there was nothing better we could do" (working from home did work better)

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ack

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<techrights-news> "Next release: 11 October 2022" https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2022 let's see how many died in September 2022 compared to prior Septembers. Don't give us the "but the lockdowns put people down" BS; in 2020 we have lockdowns and in 2022 no lockdowns. Deaths far higher this year.

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ons.gov.uk | Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

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atm I study the death stats, by age and gender

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guess what, there are only two tables for gender

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until they get death threats at OSN

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ONS

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hmmm

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anyway, I am tying to identify patterns

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we'll soon get data witrh the effect of the COVID surge

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each deathis a tragedy

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it's a family mourning

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it's hard to play down or hide deaths

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<techrights-news> England and Wales Summertime Deaths in 2020 versus 2022 (Spoiler: About 1,500 More Deaths Registered Per Week in 2022) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/covid19-and-summertimes/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » England and Wales Summertime Deaths in 2020 versus 2022 (Spoiler: About 1,500 More Deaths Registered Per Week in 2022)

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all data as ODF

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and dealing with potential "criticism" upfront

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ack

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checking

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they don't use a consistent format across years!

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It makes comprison by age a HUGE task

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it always required some data transformation just to get the weekly numbers

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changes in sheets and row/column style

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not making research any easier

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with this lack of consistency

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3 main possibilities in my mind

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1) war on nhs

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2) bad vaccines (side effects)

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3) long covid and other long-lasting effects after mass infection

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you can have a pla with the data

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when dealing with HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of live

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*livew

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you get some rather stitistially-meaningful stuff

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*lives

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i thought about doing a video about this for my personal blog

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but first I want to do some graphs for ages, when time permittis (I cleaned by rss feeds, no FOSS topics to cover yet)

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also, I'm off work till thurs night!

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do you want to see greaphs for the two years overlaid, with age?

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I can do this, I'm OK with stats

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I'm not so good with statistics. If you have been able to normalize

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the data then it shows that things have not slowed down at all

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Yes, some simple graphs would help. What about one where the

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data for the various years overlap? So one can see directly how similar they

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are.

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OK, I'm going to work on age group

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hypothesis: the increase in death is not affecting just very old people

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gender is not interesting because covid-19 does not 'discriminate' based on genitals

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it mostly kill old people, we know that

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and some races are more naturally immune than others

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but not immune completely

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coffee, will thinkw what to plot

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2021 is when most people got shots

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but I'm not suggesting it's the sole factor (I mentioned 3 above)

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It's probably based on other factors than race, though there is going to be

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huge variation in severity of symptoms from individual to individual anyway

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I think nhs did not specify covid-19 deaths by race, or maybe ons did not spscify it, whereas nhs did in 2020 (I recall something)

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here, race has a lot to do with class (fiscal)

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drat

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in 2019 even the age ranges were not the same

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so you cannot compare like with like

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maybe I'll find a way around it

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I'll do a "nasty" study that ignored completely old people

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and focuses on the younger

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as they too were subjected to all the same conditions, human-induced or natural

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ack

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the hierarchy of ad hom:

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1) you are not qualified

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2) ok, you are, but you read the data wrong

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3) the data might be wrong

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4) "you're an idiot"

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testing the hypothesis with my eyes, before spending a lot of time organising and plotting data

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i assume the trends are more or less than the other in other countries

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similar policies

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ack

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wow, you can really tell people stopped having babies in 2020

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deahts for age <1

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2019: 1807

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2022: 1694

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so let's ignore very young babies too

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and focus on the middle band

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mortality at 1-14 the same (2019 and 2022), one apart:

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686 in 2022

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687 in 2019

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that's usually the age where the kids didn't get covid-19 vaccines

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looking up now

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ages 15-44:

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2019 10404

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oh.

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2022 11384

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that's a surplus of about 9%

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45s to 64s

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2019 49296

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2022 49424

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the aboove is a typo

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2019 is 45296

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surpluss of about 9% again

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and I am being GENEROUS in FAVOUR of 2022

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because I round up the week to make 2022 look smaller

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if not, it would be about 10%

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so pre-covid-19 we had a lot fewer deaths in vaccinated ages groups

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deaths are about 10% higher after 2021

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and they say those deaths are barely due to covid

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if the deaths are not due to covid, then something else is killing like 10% more working age adults

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ack

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Perhaps smartphone addiction (sedentaary lifestyle) or ennui due to mental

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health problems induced by smartphone addiction? :P

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It takes a few years for a healthy individual to degenerate physically

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through inactivity. I see "phone zombies" each time I go out shopping.

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"Smart" phones were already very prevalent in 2019

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but there could be a cumulative effect

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taking its toll like a phanton

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phone zombies tend to be the same indoors, albeit less visible

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and it is not (or no longer) limited to kids

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now we have computer users in kitchens, toilet seats, under a blanket...

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I would presume the are the same indoors. It would be important to know

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how many contact hours per day the victims waste interacting solely with

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their smartphone "apps" and disservices.

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Many partents use such devices, and tablet computers, as pacifiers.

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rianne's newphew and mine are like that

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but it's more complicate

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with cards (to pay)

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and addictive games

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and them demanding (with ultimatum) access to things

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the patents don't offer it to them, they just surrender to it

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the DT video showed how pupils blackmails schools and teachers

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*blackmail

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-concerned-100mph-snapchat-challenge-25201014

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-concerned-100mph-snapchat-challenge-25201014 )

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the cops can use the company to arrest a whole load of reckless idiots

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harvesting their IDs

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Horrible Injury at TwitchCon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iIkfc2s0SqY Twitchcon Should Be Sued.. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wS2h0lNqYzs

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Horrible Injury at TwitchCon - Invidious

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Twitchcon Should Be Sued... - Invidious

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hole your wee to win a wii

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remember? *hold

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If they don't kill any innocent bystanders.

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snapshot had LOADS of layoffs recently

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**chat

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<techrights-news> ONS Data: Working Age Adults See 10% Rise in Mortality Between 2019 (Pre-COVID-19, January-September) and 2022 (Year to Present) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/ons-data-working-age-adults/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Data: Working Age Adults See 10% Rise in Mortality Between 2019 (Pre-COVID-19, January-September) and 2022 (Year to Present)

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Yes, among other similar layoffs

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ack

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when I get more recent data (9 complete months) I will do charts etc.

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I've saved me working ODF locally for later use