●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 ●● ● Nov 10 [00:19] *altlink_4a6 has quit (connection closed) [00:20] *altlink_b2b (~altlink_b2b@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [01:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2imfk36trf2ze.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [02:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [03:32] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:33] *activelow (~activelow@7bj8pchb5fk5e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [05:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 10 [07:16] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:16] *activelow (~activelow@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [10:14] schestowitz-TR I think we need a lockfile for the monitoring script to make it singleton [10:14] schestowitz-TR Running it in two places at the same time can cause some minor issues [10:39] Techrights-sec Ack. flock(1) can do that. [10:39] Techrights-sec :0 [10:39] Techrights-sec :w [10:39] Techrights-sec oops, vi. [10:39] Techrights-sec Try the script now. It will only allow 1 instance at a time [10:39] schestowitz-TR thanks, I did not know about flock [10:42] Techrights-sec np. Seems to work. The first instance runs and any subsequent instances [10:42] Techrights-sec abort. Maybe the abort message ought to go to stderr? [10:43] schestowitz-TR as long as it's not generalised enough to be adopted by others (depends on growth of gemini), I think that level of care is premature :-) [10:47] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:48] Techrights-sec So I'll push the locking changes to Git now. [10:48] Techrights-sec a8f77a7..810d796 [10:48] schestowitz-TR excellent. Today I'll try to produce more articles. yesterday's investment in gemini stuff was well worth it, the news was slow anyway [10:48] schestowitz-TR I want to ask, [10:49] schestowitz-TR any point responding to the HPMS-WSL2 thing? [10:49] schestowitz-TR Git feeling says, maybe gives attention to something better off ignored? [10:52] Techrights-sec Context link? [10:53] Techrights-sec https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-Creation [10:53] Techrights-sec -for-High-Performance-Workflows.html [10:53] Techrights-sec THat? It is probably some excuse for M$ to give money to HP to block GNU/Linux [10:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-Creation ) [10:56] Techrights-sec https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-Preload [10:56] Techrights-sec Cleary a maneuver by M$ to block GNU/Linux at the manager level. Managers [10:56] -altlink_b2b/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-Preload [10:56] Techrights-sec are the target market for WSL and if it is ever to begin to gain traction, [10:56] Techrights-sec it will only be because the managers have imposed WSL like they have done [10:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix [10:56] Techrights-sec before will all the other garbage, like Citrix etc. [10:56] schestowitz-TR so worth doing article/video about, at risk of giving it more exposure/audience? [10:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j33ea95yssa9i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [11:01] Techrights-sec If done carefully, yes. But managers love all things M$ no matter how [11:01] Techrights-sec unfit for the tasks the may be. One approach might be to not name WSL [11:01] Techrights-sec but to find out about the money HP is obviously receiving from M$ and what [11:01] Techrights-sec concessions and strings it entails. Based on all past behavior, it is easy [11:01] Techrights-sec to guess with high certainty that the goal is to block GNU/Linux pre-installed [11:01] Techrights-sec machines. Note that you cannot wisely quote any of the above because WSL is mentioned in many sentence and omitting [11:01] Techrights-sec it will cause the sentences not to make [11:01] Techrights-sec sense. [11:02] schestowitz-TR so, in short, you think like me on this. better to ignore and hope it doesn't have Linux googlebombed the rest of this week [11:06] Techrights-sec so [11:06] Techrights-sec Yep. It is bad enough in the search engines already. You'll never find anything [11:06] Techrights-sec actually about "Linux" by searching for that term. Likewise, you'll never [11:06] Techrights-sec find anything for "OpenDocument" format by searching for any aspect of the [11:06] Techrights-sec name unless searching for the standard number too (ISO/IEC 26300) but then [11:06] Techrights-sec with the standard number you don't get any general audience material. [11:06] schestowitz-TR that started to happen around 2009, so I dropped the RSS feed/s [11:09] Techrights-sec Yes, but it is even more ridiculous nowadays. [11:09] Techrights-sec https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-win [11:09] Techrights-sec dows-on-upcoming-hp-workstations [11:09] Techrights-sec Embrace, extend ... [11:09] Techrights-sec third step coming soon. [11:09] -altlink_b2b/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-win [11:09] Techrights-sec "if microsoft really <3 linux like they claim, then why don't they contribute to wine?" [11:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix Forums [11:09] schestowitz-TR yes, I quoted the comments earlier [11:11] Techrights-sec I like Christine Hall's comment a while back. It was that M$ loves Linux [11:11] Techrights-sec in about the same way she loves chicken. [11:11] Techrights-sec M$ <3 Linux :: I <3 Chicken [11:12] schestowitz-TR she reads techrights and tuxmachines. I think she got this analogy from there, but I'm happy with the sharing ;-) [11:13] Techrights-sec Whatever works :) [11:13] schestowitz-TR she became more independent now. Writes again in FOSSForce instead of shilling IBM in some sites that pay a salary. [11:14] Techrights-sec That's a relief. I can't imagine at what cost the shilling occurs, and I [11:14] Techrights-sec don't mean financial costs... [11:28] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:28] *activelow (~activelow@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 10 [13:02] *altlink_b2b has quit (connection closed) [13:02] *altlink_702 (~altlink_702@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:56] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Nov 10 [14:45] schestowitz-TR I've managed to record a 30-min video about the HP thing without mentioning WSL even once [14:45] Techrights-sec excellent. it should not be named or even circumnavigated just omitted and [14:45] Techrights-sec other topics focused on. [14:45] schestowitz-TR what matters is the underlying concept, which will still be relevant decades later when the names change [14:50] schestowitz-TR Yes, the concept is paying HP to impair the use of GNU/Linux. [14:50] schestowitz-TR I did mention that part [14:50] schestowitz-TR also in the text, it's still processing/uploading [14:50] Techrights-sec Yes, the concept is paying HP to impair the use of GNU/Linux. ● Nov 10 [16:19] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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