●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 10, 2021 ●● ● Dec 10 [00:15] *altlink_1f5 has quit (connection closed) [00:15] *altlink_9fe (~altlink_9fe@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:20] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 10 [01:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/perlzemien/status/1469094204920188928 [01:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@perlzemien: @schestowitz Thank you! [01:21] schestowitz
  • Egil Moeller (@redhog_org): "As a non-american, the negative connotations with "master" are a bit strange / special case / modern - it's the same word as maestro, de: meister, sv: mster, as in expert in a narrow subject matter or trade..." | nitter
    [01:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/redhog_org/status/1469037648006324229">Egil ) [01:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Grammarly/status/1469000529263087623 [01:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Grammarly: @schestowitz Hi! Allow us to clarify: Grammarly does not record every keystroke on your device. Grammarly accesses https://t.co/9a8OfzFVqi [01:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Grammarly: @schestowitz Hi! Allow us to clarify: Grammarly does not record every keystroke on your device. Grammarly accesses https://t.co/9a8OfzFVqi [01:22] schestowitz "https://twitter.com/Grammarly/status/1469000529263087623" [01:22] schestowitz "Hi! Allow us to clarify: Grammarly does not record every keystroke on your device. Grammarly accesses only the text you write while using our product, for the purposes of checking your text and providing suggestions. (1/2)" [01:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Grammarly/status/1469000669441007617 [01:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Grammarly: @schestowitz In addition, Grammarly is blocked from accessing anything you type in text fields marked sensitive, https://t.co/7GHftUx7J4 [01:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Grammarly: @schestowitz In addition, Grammarly is blocked from accessing anything you type in text fields marked sensitive, https://t.co/7GHftUx7J4 [01:23] schestowitz In addition, Grammarly is blocked from accessing anything you type in text fields marked sensitive, including passwords and credit card fields. You can always see that Grammarly is processing your text by the presence of the Grammarly widget. (2/2)" [01:24] schestowitz https://twitter.com/GraciyaLeon/status/1468921730739552256 [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GraciyaLeon: @schestowitz Hey, I read your blog it's great & knowledgeable. Here I am also sharing the blog which I found very https://t.co/sBrMvsewbS [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GraciyaLeon: @schestowitz Hey, I read your blog it's great & knowledgeable. Here I am also sharing the blog which I found very https://t.co/sBrMvsewbS [01:24] schestowitz "https://twitter.com/GraciyaLeon/status/1468921730739552256" [01:24] schestowitz " [01:24] schestowitz Hey, I read your blog it's great & knowledgeable. [01:24] schestowitz Here I am also sharing the blog which I found very helpful for this comparison [01:24] schestowitz " [01:24] schestowitz https://twitter.com/the_npc_show/status/1468918350751358985 [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@the_npc_show: @haniefhaider @VanessaBeeley @schestowitz I would say he has threw bungs at most of the media otherwise we wouldn't be in this situation. [01:24] schestowitz https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/1468918080604680201 [01:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@haniefhaider: @the_npc_show @VanessaBeeley Does Bill Gates still sponsor the Guardian? @schestowitz [01:25] schestowitz https://twitter.com/DavidFCox/status/1468913091907891202 [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DavidFCox: @schestowitz @glynmoody #Torture search "car bombs Syria" How would you fight against these if the were targeting t https://t.co/PCigS0l4B1 [01:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DavidFCox: @schestowitz @glynmoody #Torture search "car bombs Syria" How would you fight against these if the were targeting t https://t.co/PCigS0l4B1 [01:25] schestowitz " [01:25] schestowitz #Torture search "car bombs Syria" [01:25] schestowitz How would you fight against these if the were targeting the schools of your followers, pupils trips to and from school? [01:25] schestowitz USA plan to "Take out" Syria also involves destroying Syrian children [01:25] schestowitz pic small segment of U.N. report [01:25] schestowitz " [01:32] schestowitz > Thanks for the response regarding Techrights' use of self-signed security certificates. I feel pretty much the way Roy does about security certificates, but perhaps I worry more about their use as a tool in the hands of governments to end free speech than I worry about their use in furthering the plans of monopolies. I see monopolies themselves as tools of government. Here in the US, our government seems to love them. Controlling one giant [01:32] schestowitz sociopathic money-grubbing corporation is much easier than tens or hundreds of thousands of smaller ones. I'm also happy to see that Roy trusts Microsoft no more than I do. As I wrote in https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/truecrypt-mystery.html , consumers should automatically assume that anything coming out of Microsoft (or any commercial company) has a backdoor for the NSA. [01:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cheapskatesguide.org | The Truecrypt Mystery and Intelligence Agencies' Fixation with Decrypting Your Hard Drive [01:32] schestowitz > [01:32] schestowitz > -Cheapskate [01:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:49] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:51] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:52] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 10 [02:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Please send stats for entire year 2021, at any time, after end of December." [07:59] schestowitz (friend) [07:59] schestowitz re his blog [07:59] Techrights-sec trademark matter ● Dec 10 [08:00] schestowitz-TR those who truly care about the brand don't run the LF"s legal dept. [08:09] Techrights-sec few there do, legal dept or not. gkh is introducing rust into the kernel tree [08:09] Techrights-sec it looks like [08:09] schestowitz-TR in this case, TM enforcement may be spun as transphobia [08:09] schestowitz-TR for this reason, I won't touch the matter either [08:10] schestowitz-TR regarding the attempts to push "Linux" in the context of that pedophilia trial, I saw one more yesterday [08:10] schestowitz-TR but it seems to be dying down, does not merit any attention [08:16] *altlink_9fe has quit (connection closed) [08:16] *altlink_e7b (~altlink_e7b@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:35] Techrights-sec ack [08:36] schestowitz-TR Linus has made loads of money with those peoplw who orbit him (reminds me of King/Tyson and Bobby Fischer), so I'm rather reluctant to 'help' him protect his 'intellectual' 'property' [08:36] Techrights-sec s/with/for/ [08:37] Techrights-sec I still say it is past time for him to take his trademark and walk [08:37] schestowitz-TR we investigated the ramifications 2 years ago; it's not a simple thing, not a pretty or rosy picture [08:38] Techrights-sec not simple and not tidy either. it'd be very messy and maybe that is what [08:38] Techrights-sec is holding him hostage so to speak [08:39] Techrights-sec there is probably a large dose of sunk-cost fallacy involved there too [08:39] Techrights-sec he had to do this already with osdl if I recall correctly [08:40] schestowitz-TR based on my research yesrs ago, it happened around the time stuaert cohen had startted interacting closely with [08:40] schestowitz-TR Microsoft and I think visited Microsoft as well, based on /. maybe [08:40] schestowitz-TR I do not recall ther pertinent details [08:41] Techrights-sec Details were probably never public, like what happend when Durusau met with M$ [08:42] schestowitz-TR did you email linus? I think you should, it cannot hurt [08:43] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/johnmclear/status/1469210534318940162#m [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | John McLear (@johnmclear): "As a Brit I'm keeping my mouth shut!" | nitter [08:45] Techrights-sec i've never met him nor ever even contributed to the kernel [08:45] Techrights-sec I know someone who tried to send a paper letter but he commented years later [08:45] Techrights-sec that he throws those away unopened. [08:45] schestowitz-TR he does read email, but he's one of those people who wants you to think he does not so as to discourage getting too much mail [08:46] schestowitz-TR an alternative way of communicating is writing article on the topic as he does spend some time surfing news about linux and ego-surfing [08:47] Techrights-sec yes that is likely the most productive approach, though SEO spammers are using [08:47] Techrights-sec the trademark such as seen at the recent link [08:48] schestowitz-TR almost finished shift (9am), then doing shift monday, then free till next weekend!! [08:50] Techrights-sec Excellent ● Dec 10 [09:05] schestowitz
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    How to restrict server users to a specific directory in Linux
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    What you can do is restrict those users with a chroot jail. By doing this you severely limit what those users can do on your system. In fact, any user who is limited to a chroot jail can:

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    1. Only access the server via sftp

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    2. Only access a specific directory

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    The Dramatic Rise Of Esports Worldwide
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    We also received approval recently for the design and eventual build-out of a 7,000 seat performance theater style arena in Toronto for todays generation of fans that we expect to complete by 2025. The venue will serve as a new home for the biggest music and entertainment acts of the world, in addition to attracting a full slate of Esports events increasing over time. Weve raised over $100m (CAD) to date from a [09:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boilingsteam.com | The 20 Games Linux Gamers Want To See Ported - Boiling Steam [09:09] schestowitz variety of investors, including some notable names like The Weeknd, the Montreal Canadiens, bce inc., and a variety of professional athletes in the NHL and other leagues. Our principle investors are the Kimel family and Sheldon Pollack who is our chairman of the board. We are publicly listed in Toronto under the ticker symbol OAM on the TSX Venture Exchange and are also listed in the US on the OTCQB.

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    Leaving MySQL
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    [09:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.sesse.net | NO TITLE [09:13] schestowitz

    My new role will be in the Google Chrome team. It was probably about time; my T-shirt collection was getting a bit worn.

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    A Linux Labor of Love
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    The Linux ecosystem in many ways found much of its momentum via hardware, rather than software. So it makes sense that there have been some fascinating efforts to reinvent the Linux ecosystem around hardware. The Raspberry Pi has of course built lasting excitement around computer hardware in contexts that fit neatly into the internet of things. But as desktop Linux distros have at times felt like wheel-spinning exercises ( [09:18] schestowitz just ask Linus Tech Tips, and shout-out to Jason Evangelho), it feels like Linux hardware targeted at consumers is likely to push it over the edge at some point. Ive already covered two of those efforts in the relatively recent pastthe PineBook Pro and the PinePhone, both made by Pine64but the JingPad represents something different: an attempt to make a piece of hardware that supports Linux from the ground up that a non-Linux user [09:18] schestowitz might actually want to use. Todays Tedium takes an up-close look at the JingPad A1, an experimental new tablet worth looking into. Ernie @ Tedium

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    [Old] My philosophy for productive instant messaging
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    [09:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://drewdevault.com/2021/11/24/A-philosophy-for-instant-messaging.html">My ) [09:19] schestowitz

    This also presents us a solution to the interruptions problem: just dont answer right away, and dont expect others to. I dont have desktop or mobile notifications for IRC. I only use it when Im sitting down at my computer, and I pull notifications from it instead of having it push them to me that is, I glance at the client every now and then. If Im in the middle of something, I dont read it. [09:19] schestowitz

    With these considerations in mind, IRC has been an extraordinarily useful tool for me, and maybe it can be for you, too. Im not troubled by interruptions to my workflow. I never have to catch up on a bunch of old messages. I can communicate efficiently and effectively with my team, increasing our productivity considerably, without worrying about an added source of stress. I hope that helps!

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    [Old] I will pay you cash to delete your npm module
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    [09:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://drewdevault.com/2021/11/16/Cash-for-leftpad.html">I ) [09:19] schestowitz

    Ill pay you cold hard cash to delete your npm module. The exact amount will be determined on this equation, which is designed to offer higher payouts for modules with more downloads and fewer lines of code. A condition of this is that you must delete it without notice, so that everyone who depends on it wakes up to a broken build.

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    [Old] Python: Please stop screwing over Linux distros
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    [09:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://drewdevault.com/2021/11/16/Python-stop-screwing-distros-over.html">Python ) [09:21] schestowitz

    Distros are feeling especially frustrated right now, but I dont think were alone. Everyone is frustrated with Python packaging. I call on the PSF to sit down for some serious, sober engineering work to fix this problem. Draw up a list of the use-cases you need to support, pick the most promising initiative, and put in the hours to make it work properly, today and tomorrow. Design something you can stick with and [09:21] schestowitz make stable for the next 30 years. If you have to break some hearts, fine. Not all of these solutions can win. Right now, upstream neglect is destroying the Python ecosystem. The situation is grave, and we need strong upstream leadership right now.

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    Is techno-clutter ruining your life?
    [09:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-clutter-farnell.html">Is ) [09:23] schestowitz
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    Material excess is a political issue. I see modern technology as a symbol and vehicle of affluent-poverty and class division. A few authors have courageously faced this difficult subject, among them Owen Jones in Chavs Jones11 and David Graeber in Bullshit Jobs Graeber18.

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    In short, to render the modern productive class (caring and civic professions) harmless, their power under old-left nomenclature as "working-class" had to be destroyed. Their reinvention as "consumers" necessitated apparatus to warehouse and monitor them. Modern bread and circuses manifests as "techno bling" - cheap, attractive and addictive but ultimately detrimental technology like smartphones and social media. Though it [09:23] schestowitz pains me to utter words like "chav" (The UK version of "trailer-trash" or "bogans"), nothing says first-world poverty quite like two gold iPhones, one in each jeans pocket.

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    Microsoft Edge keeps me on edge
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    Human psychology is a fascinating domain. Take me, for example. I don't like stupid things. And I don't like being told what to do. When you combine the two, I really get angry when I'm being told to do stupid things. Case in point, browser nudges, popups, reminders, or pointless features. Case in point, a bunch of stuff happening recently with Microsoft Edge.

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    To give you a bit more context, by and large, this browser is not allowed to run on my Windows productivity hosts. The in-yer-face marketing approach (use, use, use, do it, do it, do it) employed by Microsoft persuaded me to implement a policy whereby Edge can't even start. Push, shove, action, reaction. However, that said, I am using Edge as my secondary browser on my Linux machines, and there, it works pretty well. I [09:29] schestowitz also kept it on the rather pointless Windows 11 test box. But now, I feel some extra purging is required. Why? Well, anguish not, I shall tell you all about this very shortly.

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    Booting Up The Cash Register
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    The modern computer store, as Ive argued in the past, is a bit of a mess. Its all about the hard sell (in a gigantic box) at the cost of any personality whatsoever. (Micro Center notwithstanding; that place is great.) It was so bad that Apple (and later, Microsoft, though not permanently) had to create its own self-branded stores to ensure their products were seen in the proper light. This is kind of painful, of [09:55] schestowitz course, because personal computers were really the domain of the hobbyist at first. But all too quickly, and perhaps not best for the consumer, that all changed. Tonights Tedium ponders the birth of computer retail and why the mom-and-pop byte peddler lost out. Ernie @ Tedium

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    The European Commission Will Make its Software Solutions Open Source for Public Benefit
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    And, the European Commission seems to be respecting the idea, which is a good sign that should encourage other official organizations funded by public money to step up with the same initiative.

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    Not just limited to that, the EU also realizes that investing in open-source gives higher returns, based on their recent study.

  • ● Dec 10 [10:24] schestowitz-TR video idea: LF discussion, torvalds, then the trademark issue and noise in the news [10:24] schestowitz-TR mentioned along the way, without linking to the toxic shit [10:28] Techrights-sec good to avoid feeding them traffic [10:29] schestowitz-TR ok [10:29] schestowitz-TR but the topic? worth covering\? [10:29] Techrights-sec yes, the topic is important [10:30] schestowitz-TR I will also show what we accomplished with xml/gemtext/irc along the way [10:31] schestowitz
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    Battleye Anti-Cheat Works On ARMA3 With Proton
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    Turns out that I have one of them, ARMA3, and I could test that it indeed works, by filtering for BattlEye only servers and trying to join such servers from Linux with Proton (note that you need to disable most of your mods if you intend on joining online competition). It seems like Steam downloads a specific BattlEye package before running ARMA3 after this update, so you dont really have to do anything on your end.

  • [10:33] schestowitz-TR would you say that [10:33] schestowitz-TR it is worth at least floating the idea that all the LF noise this past week [10:33] schestowitz-TR may have at least partly been motivated by things we exposed at the start of the week? [10:33] schestowitz-TR or would that be too far? [10:34] Techrights-sec I would guess that the noise is at least partially in response to the posts. [10:34] Techrights-sec It comes across as chaff. [10:34] schestowitz-TR recording [10:35] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure) [10:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Chaff (countermeasure) - Wikipedia [10:37] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/roy/ [10:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Roy Schestowitz [10:37] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/spamchaff/ [10:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Spamchaff ● Dec 10 [11:31] schestowitz-TR done [11:31] schestowitz-TR audio is good because I can say things in it without getting easily quoted out of context [11:31] schestowitz-TR the effort associated with transcribing ans verificatiion [11:31] schestowitz-TR things like saying that Linus is bossed by 3 women from Microsoft, who get their whole salary from Microsoft [11:33] Techrights-sec https://www.bsdly.net/~peter/traplist.shtml [11:33] Techrights-sec ack [11:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bsdly.net | bsdly.net - A traplist collected by Peter Hansteen [11:33] schestowitz-TR if the calm continues, around xmas time I'll do a letter-ripping video [11:33] schestowitz-TR you know whose [11:34] Techrights-sec ack [11:34] Techrights-sec excellent ● Dec 10 [12:19] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@463w5ckbsh7ce.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:33] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [12:33] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@mupb6a256trnq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:35] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: brb) [12:35] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@gvqcm9zsc4knq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:37] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [12:39] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@463w5ckbsh7ce.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 10 [13:41] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [13:41] schestowitz-TR managed to have 1-hour nap in the sun (rare angle, but second day in a row) ● Dec 10 [14:26] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [14:26] *activelow (~activelow@r7zq4q2ys63yk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 10 [15:51] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [15:51] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@6nvxnbfs9k26u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 10 [16:12] *altlink_e7b has quit (connection closed) [16:12] *altlink_908 (~altlink_908@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9u7ns2ey3etty.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 10 [18:01] schestowitz-TR I momentarily experiment with the pi running w//o network restrictions, as recrently it's almost [18:01] schestowitz-TR impossible to fetch ipfs objects and I want to see the impact of turning the limits [18:01] schestowitz-TR off [18:01] schestowitz-TR I will put on tc-7 afterwar [18:04] Techrights-sec tc class add dev $if parent 1:1 classid 1:40 htb rate 600kbit ceil 1mbit prio 4 [18:04] Techrights-sec tc class add dev $if parent 1:1 classid 1:50 htb rate 500kbit prio 5 [18:04] Techrights-sec Those steer the outgoing speed of IPFS [18:05] schestowitz-TR there are two types of traffic: content and hash meta; I am guessing it's hard to know where our content is, as the hashes don't travel fully or widely enough [18:07] Techrights-sec does the IPFS traffic have QoS settings? Those could be identified and [18:07] Techrights-sec utilized. [18:07] schestowitz-TR yes, I already lowered the swarm size, but it's still very big [18:08] Techrights-sec SSH traffic has QoS to differentiate bulk from interactive. Maybe [18:08] Techrights-sec IPFS has similar flags at the TCP level. ● Dec 10 [19:03] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:31] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [19:31] schestowitz-TR I lost track of which version of tc script I was running before experimenting [19:31] schestowitz-TR version 7, as in, still seems to allow a lot of upward traffic [19:37] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [19:38] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@kxgbrhbcjzafi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:50] Techrights-sec back [19:50] Techrights-sec the latest tc-shaper.sh in Git is probably the best bit see the class settings [19:50] Techrights-sec above for ideas about modification [19:50] Techrights-sec tc is poorly documented or else I am not finding what is needed to know about [19:50] Techrights-sec QoS [19:50] schestowitz-TR I'll grab the one from git [19:52] schestowitz-TR it's the same as v7 [19:52] schestowitz-TR I wonder if I ran that version before further changes were made to it [19:54] schestowitz-TR now I try it again. it's definitely not what I was running before, it maxes up the upload capacity. [19:58] schestowitz-TR at the time I did not make a copy of the file but just ran it from your homedir directly. it handicapped upload speeds, also for ssh... and that's why gemini became slow for large pages [19:59] Techrights-sec I'll put the one from Git there. Just a minute... [19:59] schestowitz-TR I think it is the same as version 7, but when I ran it I suppose it was before further changes were made to that file ● Dec 10 [20:02] Techrights-sec I [20:02] Techrights-sec $ diff tc-shaper.sh tc-shaper-07.sh [20:02] Techrights-sec 98c98 [20:02] Techrights-sec < -j MARK --set-mark 100 [20:02] Techrights-sec --- [20:02] Techrights-sec > -j MARK --set-mark 200 [20:02] Techrights-sec 101c101 [20:02] Techrights-sec < -j MARK --set-mark 100 [20:02] schestowitz-TR I see... [20:02] Techrights-sec --- [20:02] Techrights-sec > -j MARK --set-mark 200 [20:02] Techrights-sec 107c107 [20:02] Techrights-sec < -j MARK --set-mark 200 [20:02] Techrights-sec --- [20:02] Techrights-sec > -j MARK --set-mark 300 [20:02] Techrights-sec minor tweaks in ~/bin/tc-shaper.sh [20:02] Techrights-sec I'm trying to keep the latest version in Git only [20:07] schestowitz-TR it seems much better now [20:07] schestowitz-TR my findings can at least provide later tips on ipfs, irc, gemini etc. [20:07] schestowitz-TR home hosting has itsm limits [20:11] schestowitz-TR it's still maxing up upload capacity at times [20:11] schestowitz-TR I wish I had made a local copy of the file when I loaded it about 10 days ago [20:12] schestowitz-TR then again, prior settings (dec 1-10) has very slow ssh speed, gemini slowness for large page, and maybe further issues serving ipfs contents [20:15] Techrights-sec What kind of traffic control is available on the router itself? There should [20:15] Techrights-sec be some useful rate limiting there if it is Linux-based. [20:15] Techrights-sec SSH connections have been slow but once connected, it's fine from this end. [20:15] Techrights-sec The slow connections might be file system related. IPFS puts a lot of strain [20:15] Techrights-sec on the microSD card and that is not fast at all. [20:15] schestowitz-TR I don't think the router has throttling controls [20:16] schestowitz-TR in retrospect, the settings I had before felt great, but quite likely had a negative effect on large ipfs objects and large gemini pages [20:19] Techrights-sec It effectively blocked the longer Gemini pages, notably the IRC logs. [20:19] schestowitz-TR are they OK now from your end? [20:21] Techrights-sec SSH is quite responsive now, even connecting. [20:21] Techrights-sec Gemini is fine, I think the slowness there is still the file system. 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