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r_schestowitz> Yes, we can absolutely do this -- give me a few days to figure out the Seattle PD process for documents and I'll let you know how soon we could get that together depending on how onerous they make it. This sounds like a great place to start. We LOVE getting document troves :)Jan 11 00:31
r_schestowitzExcellent, thank you!Jan 11 00:31
r_schestowitz> Before you publish anything about my request give me a chance to publishJan 11 00:36
r_schestowitz> my emails first. Is that cool?Jan 11 00:36
r_schestowitzI have just received an informal commitment from victims of ephebophiles. They too may be submitting requests soon. Jan 11 00:37
r_schestowitzIf you have any note about the process involved, pass them along to make it easier for them.Jan 11 00:37
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16895465#b782b740101b0138dffe268acd52edbJan 11 06:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dear #gnu #linux user The #linuxfoundation exists to serve and protect them Not YOU Tough? Well, that's reality. #getusedtoitJan 11 06:40
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r_schestowitz"Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzYep, tough indeed. But I guess Linux would not have gotten as strong as it is without them/their interest.Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitz Murkas WylanderJan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzMurkas Wylander - 8 days ago Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzAs long as they can provide closed source drivers, UEFI BIOS and Intel ME, they are fine I guess…Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitz -jonny-Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitz-jonny- - 8 days ago Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzWhat about Hurd, anyway?Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitz Murkas WylanderJan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzMurkas Wylander - 8 days ago Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzseems dead since 3 years, and is 32-bit only…Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitz"Jan 11 06:40
r_schestowitzthere's gnu-libre, whose dev is now in the FSF's Board as co-presidentJan 11 06:41
r_schestowitz                <li>Jan 11 09:06
r_schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://blog.steve.fi/i_won_t_write_another_email_client.html">I won't write another email client</a></h5>Jan 11 09:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.steve.fi/i_won_t_write_another_email_client.html">I )Jan 11 09:06
r_schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jan 11 09:06
r_schestowitz                    <p>Nowadays I do realize how hard writing email clients is, so I'm not going to do that again. But still .. but still .. </p></blockquote></li>Jan 11 09:06
r_schestowitzfhttps://twitter.com/sabiosuelto/status/1215947040645009409Jan 11 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sabiosuelto: Microsoft... “Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels… https://t.co/q8FXMqVS8QJan 11 11:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sabiosuelto: Microsoft... “Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels… https://t.co/q8FXMqVS8QJan 11 11:15
r_schestowitz"Microsoft... “Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them. Thus, you control mindshare!”"Jan 11 11:15
r_schestowitzIt is difficult to see more denial of reality from people in responsibility.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzUp to now Mr Ramsay was alone in its wishful thinking, now he is joined by the head of the EPO and the head of the “Select Committee”.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzThat they do not want to see all the energy put in the UPC having been wasted is understandable, but the message conveyed cannot be a message of hope, but of meaningless self-prophecy.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzWhat gives those distinguished people the assurance that the German Federal Constitutional Court will dismiss the complaint about the UPC, and the further complaints about the independence of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO?Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzThe recent attempt of the head of the EPO to twist the arm of the Enlarged Board in matters of Art 53, b) and R 28(2), does not abode well for the independence of the Boards of Appeal.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzWhen Downing Street makes clear that the CJEU will not have any influence in UK, it looks bad for the London Section of the Central Division. Just let Art 87(2) UPCA work? Can it be constitutional that an international treaty might be amended by a decision of an administrative body bypassing parliaments unless the government decides to submit the amendments to the parliament?Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzWhat is amazing is that those people think that the UPC is of “paramount importance to competitiveness, growth and innovation in Europe” and that “Our users – and in particular SMEs – will strongly benefit from it because it will make Europe more competitive in relation to the United States and Asia”.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzWhy have countries like Poland and the Czech Republic decided not to join the UPC? If the perspective for their industry would be as rosy as is pretended by those people, they should have jumped at the possibility to join the UPC.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzIt remains a matter of fact that barely a third of the applications filed at the EPO stem from EU member states. And from this third how many stem from SMEs? I would like to see a coherent demonstration and not a repeated allegation that SMEs will profit from the UPC. In this respect, the pseudo studies published by the EPO under the precedent head of the EPO are not worth the paper they are printed on.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzAs 2/3 of the applications stem from outside the EU, the big beneficiaries are US, Japanese and other Asian countries, and not Europe. How stupid to give those countries the possibility to have one point of attack when starting litigation in Europe.Jan 11 14:51
r_schestowitzIn how far this possibility to centrally attack European Patents is of “paramount importance to competitiveness, growth and innovation in Europe” remains to be convincingly explained. Why has the basic fee for infringement be set at 11 000 €, and the basic fee for a nullity action or a counterclaim for nullity set at 20 000 €? There is a clear advantage for the patent proprietor. Why this disproportion? To help SMEs?Jan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzOn the other hand, when seeing the quality of European Patents dwindling, some of the proprietors might have bad surprises. Just look at the number of patents revoked or heavily reduced in scope after opposition, be it for added matter or lack of patentability. The number of cases in which the patent was revoked in view of prior art not available in the search files of the EPO is negligible.Jan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzAnd last but not least, how to avoid diverging case law between the UPC and the Boards of Appeal of the EPO? Both are competent to decide upon the validity of granted European Patents.Jan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzAs the proprietor might limit his patent during all its life, why not extend the possibility of an opposition to the same extent. This would make the UPC superfluous, as the industries needing a patent in more than 5-7 countries can be counted on the fingers of a hand. This would keep all member states of the EPO on a par.Jan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzAnd this would be cheaper and not give an advantage to companies with deep pockets helped by internationally acting lawyers firms also poised to fill their pockets.Jan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/01/10/epo-and-eu-member-states-call-for-speedy-implementation-unitary-patent-and-upc/Jan 11 14:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | EPO and EU Member States call for speedy implementation Unitary Patent and UPC - Kluwer Patent BlogJan 11 14:52
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TorstenSchommer/status/1216015770167234565Jan 11 15:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TorstenSchommer: Because that's who they are, always were, and always will be 😠 Microsoft's Proprietary Software That Spies on Ever… https://t.co/pIfQIVbFsdJan 11 15:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TorstenSchommer: Because that's who they are, always were, and always will be 😠 Microsoft's Proprietary Software That Spies on Ever… https://t.co/pIfQIVbFsdJan 11 15:27
r_schestowitz"Jan 11 15:27
r_schestowitzBecause that's who they are, always were, and always will be Jan 11 15:27
r_schestowitzMicrosoft's Proprietary Software That Spies on Everyone 'Does an AWS' on Free Software http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=280202 … via @InoreaderJan 11 15:27
r_schestowitz"Jan 11 15:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Proprietary Software That Spies on Everyone ‘Does an AWS’ on Free Software | TechrightsJan 11 15:27
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DrKND/status/1216038778097192961Jan 11 16:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DrKND: https://t.co/wHCfEWznpeJan 11 16:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part I: Bill Gates Has Plenty to Hide. Money and Connections Have Helped. | TechrightsJan 11 16:50
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dynamo_hum69/status/1216045418150350858Jan 11 17:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dynamo_hum69: @schestowitz This is why Bin Laden started.Jan 11 17:24
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schestowitz> Verifying whether the Ukrainian jetliner that plunged to the ground inJan 11 19:05
schestowitz> flames near Tehran on Wednesday was hit with a missile should be farJan 11 19:05
schestowitz> more straightforward than the heated rhetoric surrounding the event.Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> Surface-to-air missiles leave a distinctive trail of evidence afterJan 11 19:06
schestowitz> striking an aircraft, such as the pattern of pockmarks in the fuselage,Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> shrapnel wounds in people who were on board -- and the data left behindJan 11 19:06
schestowitz> on flight recorders.Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> “It looks like a shotgun pattern wherever they hit,” said Robert Swaim,Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> a retired U.S. crash investigator who has been involved in such cases.Jan 11 19:06
schestowitz> “There is a concentrated area of sharp little tears.”Jan 11 19:06
schestowitzIran already admitted it had shot it down. All those provocations already take their toll on plenty of civilians.Jan 11 19:06
schestowitzQuite the "reelection" campaign... very bloody.Jan 11 19:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16433222#456beec0e47f0137760a005056264835Jan 11 19:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FreeBSD 12.1 operating system released with major updates https://morningtick.com/2019/11/05/freebsd-12-1-released/ more: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130111 #bsd #unix Jan 11 19:16
schestowitz"Jan 11 19:16
schestowitzMaybe it’s due to the “registered trademark” aspect of the term “UNIX”.Jan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrzJan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months agoJan 11 19:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> morningtick.com | FreeBSD 12.1 operating system released with major updates – Morning TickJan 11 19:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE Release Notes | Tux MachinesJan 11 19:16
schestowitzDon’t want to get in trouble now, do we? ;-)Jan 11 19:16
schestowitzGreg A. WoodsJan 11 19:16
schestowitzGreg A. Woods - 2 months agoJan 11 19:16
schestowitzAll BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) derived systems since 4.4, i.e. those using the Net/1, 4.4-Lite, and/or 4.4.-Lite2 code, are only “unix-like”, not containing a line of original UNIX™ code. API-wise they are also very similar, especially now with most being mostly POSIX compliant, but again they are not nearly identical. There was a full 4.4BSD release (or at least an “alpha” release) which included some of the original Jan 11 19:16
schestowitzUnix code, but it was not publicly available and could only be obtained by full Unix license holders.Jan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrzJan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months agoJan 11 19:16
schestowitzWell, by that line of reasoning, I today would only be “tomgrz-like”, since I now contain hardly a single cell that I had when I was born. Maybe I’ll change my name…Jan 11 19:16
schestowitzGreg A. WoodsJan 11 19:16
schestowitzGreg A. Woods - 2 months agoJan 11 19:16
schestowitzYeah, the differences are mostly invisible to users, though if you write software or port it between the various distributions and releases as I do then the differences can be quite radical (and frustrating). Worst of all is if you help maintain any one or the other as I also do then the differences and divergences can be quite saddening.Jan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrzJan 11 19:16
schestowitztomgrz - 2 months agoJan 11 19:16
schestowitzyeah, I’ve changed a bit over the years also. I won’t change my name, I will just use my age as a version number.Jan 11 19:16
schestowitz"Jan 11 19:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16578357#bd8d19e0effd013752c50cc47a07853cJan 11 19:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF #GNU #emacs event... no# rms ? Well, did he self-banish or is he made to feel uninvited? He's right there in Boston... http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-fsfs-emacsconf-2019-satellite-was-an-m-x-successJan 11 19:19
schestowitz"Jan 11 19:19
schestowitzJan 11 19:19
schestowitzit was an anonymous donation that destroyed the media lab, not a patron. the fsf got one too. imo it doesnt matter who it was from, what matters is the change in behaviour after they got it. nothing has changed at the fsf! everything is exactly the same. join us!Jan 11 19:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.fsf.org | The FSF's EmacsConf 2019 satellite was an M-x success! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareJan 11 19:19
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schestowitzJan 11 19:20
schestowitzi still love the media lab incidentally, and im as heartbroken about that as the fsf. when i was learning computers, it was because of the sort of stuff that the media lab did. now, i was getting in on the precursors to the coolest stuff they did-- stuff like logo and programmable robots, but they kept advancing those things. the fsf doesnt have a fun educational side, they need one. the media lab had that. sure, they got bought out Jan 11 19:20
schestowitzduring the olpc days. olpc was still one of the best ideas ever. it gave us the netbook. now we have sbcs filling that niche. you know who the media lab is going to lose out to the most? let me spoil it for you: gnome and endless. which isnt great.Jan 11 19:20
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