●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 11, 2022 ●● ● Aug 11 [00:04] schestowitz-TR Contact tracing was a scam or at best a mass surveillance ploy. 'Linux' Foundation PROMOTED this fraud. https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/covidsafe-app-killed-off,-helped-detect-2-cases-at-$10m-a-pop.html [00:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - COVIDSafe app killed off, helped detect 2 cases at $10m a pop [00:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:07] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@z2baqfzfibze8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [02:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [04:57] *Despatche has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [07:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [08:10] Techrights-sec maybe for the file names in Gemini? [08:10] Techrights-sec https://metacpan.org/pod/Unicode::Diacritic::Strip [08:10] Techrights-sec However, it would be useful to first know whether Gemini is supposed to support [08:10] Techrights-sec unicode file names in the URLs or whether the failure to do so is merely a bug [08:10] Techrights-sec which has spread [08:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Unicode::Diacritic::Strip - metacpan.org [08:11] schestowitz-TR gm [08:11] schestowitz-TR catchhing up [08:11] schestowitz-TR had good sleeping, knowing msft is coming apart [08:11] schestowitz-TR daemonfc did a good post [08:11] schestowitz-TR hmmm... looks like apache on techrights needs a restart again, it has not been so reliable lately [08:12] Techrights-sec gm [08:12] Techrights-sec m$ has been falling apart for decades, the decline has not affected its power [08:12] Techrights-sec as a polictical movement or cult [08:12] Techrights-sec oh. i misread that and 'fixed' tm [08:12] Techrights-sec it's not been a long while fortunately [08:12] Techrights-sec ok [08:12] Techrights-sec restarted httpd [08:12] Techrights-sec hmm still not responding [08:15] schestowitz-TR are we both restrating it at the same time? [08:16] schestowitz-TR there were two issues with apache 2 nights ago, but I was awake [08:16] schestowitz-TR it is nto a db issue, I cannot access static pages either [08:16] schestowitz-TR restarting apache gain [08:16] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [08:16] Techrights-sec no I just did once a few minutes ago and have only watched since then [08:16] Techrights-sec it seems to be hanging and then responding in bursts [08:16] Techrights-sec though it seems to only be responding to attacks and not to legitimate queries [08:16] Techrights-sec does the db need attention? [08:16] Techrights-sec 503 tends to be back-end [08:16] Techrights-sec ok [08:26] Techrights-sec [Thu Aug 11 07:20:02.411889 2022] [proxy_fcgi:error] [pid 26951:tid 140473213613824] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 23.161.112.116:39186] AH01075: Err [08:26] Techrights-sec or dispatching request to : [08:28] schestowitz-TR ok, I gave php a kick as well [08:28] schestowitz-TR for the time being it runs OK [08:28] schestowitz-TR let's keep an eye on it for the next few hours [08:28] schestowitz-TR as we have a lot of rebuttals to the media frenzy created by Microsoft moles [08:28] Techrights-sec ack [08:28] Techrights-sec ack [08:28] schestowitz-TR I could show you some LAUGHABLE headlines [08:28] schestowitz-TR they clearly cover up [08:28] schestowitz-TR at first we didn't even know layoffs were happening [08:28] schestowitz-TR then we thought it was just "savings" [08:28] schestowitz-TR lots of spin [08:28] schestowitz-TR smoke and mirrors [08:28] schestowitz-TR I've put php monitoring in front of me so I can detect issues fast [08:35] schestowitz-TR Lots of bait and decoy in the media about Microsoft layoffs. Even Microsoft insiders are being misled about it. [08:36] Techrights-sec ack [08:36] Techrights-sec misled and at the same time participating in misleading the world [08:39] schestowitz-TR back on topics now, with fire put out (it seems stable now) [08:39] schestowitz-TR you asked about utf-x re gemini [08:39] schestowitz-TR I don't know the subject, esp. wrt perl, too well [08:39] schestowitz-TR you can judge this better than me [08:39] schestowitz-TR I know steps we'd need to take when moving over to the new site [08:39] schestowitz-TR the old site will still be there but with many redirections [08:39] schestowitz-TR and no more new pages [08:39] schestowitz-TR Gulag has already begun indexing pages in tm-new [08:39] schestowitz-TR and having identical pages in both can be bad [08:39] schestowitz-TR and penalise the latter [08:39] schestowitz-TR so I hope we can move it all over this month [08:40] Techrights-sec yes [08:40] Techrights-sec it's not a perl matter but one of the specification and how it handles [08:40] Techrights-sec or fails to handle URLs. A work-around is easy to implement but very [08:40] Techrights-sec annoying and half unnecessary. HTTP clients all handle UTF-8 within URLs no [08:40] Techrights-sec problem [08:42] schestowitz-TR you would think a client called lagrange can deal with french/italisn, but it's made by a finn, so I wonder if nordic accents it can deal with too [08:42] schestowitz-TR some domains in geminispace have symbols and emojis in them [08:42] schestowitz-TR the domain name themselves [08:43] Techrights-sec I'm wondering if they are not re-using the same defective library [08:43] Techrights-sec domains are a different component of the URL. We're only affected by [08:43] Techrights-sec problems in how the clients process paths, not 'scheme' or 'host' or 'port' [08:43] Techrights-sec or 'query string', just the 'path' [08:48] schestowitz-TR ack [08:48] schestowitz-TR I don't know this place anymore, 34 degrees for 4 days in a ro [08:48] schestowitz-TR *row [08:48] schestowitz-TR don't expect videos, I don't have a/c [08:48] schestowitz-TR I'm on shift 5:30 tonight, but took two days off 1.5 weeks from now [08:48] schestowitz-TR who needs flying to a sunny holiday? [08:48] schestowitz-TR it feels like spain in summer here [08:48] schestowitz-TR and some stupid people bathe in a bikini in totally inadequate places [08:48] schestowitz-TR rianne says they expose themselves to hundrerds of perverts [08:49] Techrights-sec ack [08:49] Techrights-sec ack [08:49] Techrights-sec probably [08:55] Techrights-sec yes, flying to a hot destination is unnecessary any more [08:55] Techrights-sec flying not only releases unnecessary carbon, that carbon is fossil carbon [08:55] Techrights-sec and not from the live cycle involving today's animals and plants [08:55] Techrights-sec so eating vegetarian yet flying jets away to vacation or, worse, business trips [08:55] Techrights-sec is an extreme form of being hypocritical. Those aren't either the same scale [08:55] Techrights-sec or even the same carbon cycle. [08:56] schestowitz-TR maybe they can be reminded what FOSSIL fuel is made of [08:56] schestowitz-TR it's not just flora but also fauna [08:56] schestowitz-TR "STOP BURNING ANIMALS"!!! [08:57] Techrights-sec perhaps, but people don't want to think because it's inconvenient to think [08:57] Techrights-sec back to the Gemini URLs, do you have any idea of where or whom to ask? [08:57] Techrights-sec I'm really disappointed that the mailing list was dismantled. [08:58] Techrights-sec Both lagrange and amfora are f-ing around in M$ GitHub so it will be very hard [08:58] Techrights-sec to track down the contact information for the developers. [08:59] schestowitz-TR lagrange uses gitea too (originally) [08:59] schestowitz-TR and I think Jukka's email is public [08:59] schestowitz-TR though he is busy with family stuff [08:59] Techrights-sec Same for kristall. [08:59] Techrights-sec Yes, he is /very/ overloaded atm afaik ● Aug 11 [09:02] schestowitz-TR I wait for Microsoft to do what GitLab did [09:02] schestowitz-TR and rattle the shackles a litt [09:02] schestowitz-TR the slaves will never forgot what gitlab was about to do [09:02] schestowitz-TR *forgot, #little [09:02] schestowitz-TR >forget [09:03] Techrights-sec ack [09:13] schestowitz-TR AuraGem Ask Activity gemini://auragem.spac AuraGem Ask Activity gemini://auragem.space/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11e/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11 [09:19] Techrights-sec ack [09:27] schestowitz-TR the manchester mirror [09:27] schestowitz-TR never heard of it before [09:27] schestowitz-TR + "themanchestermirror.com" => "The Manchester Mirror", [09:32] Techrights-sec Manchester, Michigan [09:32] Techrights-sec https://vil-manchester.org/ [09:32] Techrights-sec They still have a paper or at least the appearance of one and are along [09:32] Techrights-sec the route that toxic spill will spread [09:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-vil-manchester.org | Village of Manchester Michigan [09:33] schestowitz-TR re auragem, TONS of very good work from them/him/her [09:33] schestowitz-TR like proxies and agteways [09:33] schestowitz-TR it makes sense to have gemini forums in gemtext [09:34] schestowitz-TR not email or html archives (mailman) [09:34] schestowitz-TR SpreadChromium(TM) [09:34] Techrights-sec ack [09:34] Techrights-sec or at least somewhat near the route; like most towns they may have a lead pipe [09:34] Techrights-sec problem [09:34] Techrights-sec one of the articles had a good map of the affected watershed [09:34] schestowitz-TR 9/11: 3k affected [09:34] schestowitz-TR this: 3m affected [09:34] schestowitz-TR no big deal [09:34] schestowitz-TR it was just an "accident" anyway [09:37] Techrights-sec yep [09:44] Techrights-sec yeah if they call the dumping of the toxic waste an accident then it's all good [09:44] Techrights-sec :( [09:46] schestowitz-TR microsoft 'accidentally' did not patch the flaw in 2019 [09:46] schestowitz-TR so that's OK [09:46] schestowitz-TR after all, they own the media [09:46] schestowitz-TR the level of media spin is alarming [09:46] schestowitz-TR if you assumed media's role was to get the truth out [09:46] schestowitz-TR notm compensate by repeating lies en masse [09:47] Techrights-sec It's annoying that the media has taken to calling long-standing, well-known [09:47] Techrights-sec bugs as zero-days when they clearly are anything but that [09:47] Techrights-sec the media is complicit in downplaying m$ inept passivity, perhaps because [09:47] Techrights-sec of the important role that bug doors have in agency surveillance [09:51] schestowitz-TR todo: find ANY new info on msft 1) layoffs 2) shut down units 3) how they spin that [09:51] schestowitz-TR the last thing they want atm is people repeating facts again and again [09:51] schestowitz-TR after they drowned out the signal [09:51] schestowitz-TR you recently noted that system1 (spying, startpage) places our wiki in page 1 [09:58] Techrights-sec ack [09:58] Techrights-sec https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3RhcnRwYWdlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer [09:58] Techrights-sec _sig=AQAAAIMNIBsA9t27fnNmhzNr14RTPqektFfBjWZ93Fs3uhF2J3JfvNJBAjFqI-iVIkf3M0eiargMH3yjnndd8dkw9ABsFYwupCnik0S1SgBFTZ7u-La6NJhtnzqsi1Mzm4WCaO2Gdhi1o6I8ceQ0f2li5IT_ldjOKprh [09:58] Techrights-sec ^ignore [09:58] Techrights-sec https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/ [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft makes further cuts focused on consumer R&D group TechCrunch [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft makes further cuts focused on consumer R&D group TechCrunch [09:58] Techrights-sec https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/microsoft-lays-off-more-workers-this-time-from-consumer-r-d-team-report-122081000652_1.html [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.business-standard.com | Microsoft lays off more workers, this time from consumer R&D team: Report | Business Standard News [09:58] Techrights-sec https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-experiences-mileiq-2022-8 [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft Lays Off a Team Dedicated to Reinventing Its Consumer Appeal [09:58] Techrights-sec https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-brings-hard-news-of-layoff-to-mlx-team-that-works-on-consumer-products/ [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.neowin.net | Microsoft brings "hard news" of layoff to MLX team that works on consumer products - Neowin [09:58] Techrights-sec https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/10/23299499/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-win-back-consumers-team [09:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft reportedly lays off team focused on winning back consumers - The Verge [09:58] Techrights-sec however those are probably just the tip of the iceberg [09:58] Techrights-sec yes [09:58] Techrights-sec and throws out a lot of chaff [09:58] Techrights-sec recall the 'permatemp' situation years ago, used to hide layoffs then too [09:58] schestowitz-TR I saw it and included it in the screenshots [09:58] schestowitz-TR AOL [09:58] schestowitz-TR and nasty JS [09:58] schestowitz-TR they are selective in what they cover [09:59] schestowitz-TR microsloth keeps its cards close to its chest ● Aug 11 [10:04] schestowitz-TR what bothers me a lot are the authors' names [10:04] schestowitz-TR I know those names [10:04] schestowitz-TR they monopolise or at least dominate coverage on the topic, without disclosingconflic of interest [10:04] schestowitz-TR so you end up THINKING you know what bad news Microsoft has [10:04] schestowitz-TR when in reality it's ten times worse [10:04] schestowitz-TR I did many posts about it last night [10:05] Techrights-sec yes they make minor concessions in areas which M$ uses to distract from [10:05] Techrights-sec what's really going on there [10:05] Techrights-sec it's all about misdirection; they act like that going back decades; any time [10:05] Techrights-sec there is a major or minor press release, you have to ask what are they trying [10:05] Techrights-sec to distract from [10:10] Techrights-sec ack [10:14] schestowitz-TR the mentioned articles recycle and rehash many of the same [10:14] schestowitz-TR it's sad when you want to know mor eand don't know where to go to [10:14] schestowitz-TR to paragraphase groklaw [10:14] schestowitz-TR but in recent years I noticed that when there's major "general" news [10:14] schestowitz-TR and I want to know what's REALLY happening [10:14] schestowitz-TR I can think of not a single site I can open [10:14] schestowitz-TR and trust what it says [10:14] schestowitz-TR so many sites, such bad quality [10:14] schestowitz-TR re general Linux news sites, there's a similar problem [10:14] schestowitz-TR on pretty much every single topic [10:14] schestowitz-TR a cynic cannot find any article one can trustm anywhere.. [10:14] schestowitz-TR too many compromised orgs [10:14] schestowitz-TR or good sites that are no longer active, barely active, and cover a small subset of topics [10:15] Techrights-sec ack [10:19] schestowitz-TR part of this suspicion if the assumption the sole remainign business model is the bias [10:19] schestowitz-TR but sadly I cannot give you recent examples as I forgot [10:19] schestowitz-TR but I dread landing on a page with misinformation in it [10:19] schestowitz-TR I'd rather know nothing than be told a lie [10:19] schestowitz-TR and that's just how I feel on the WWW these days [10:19] schestowitz-TR Senior editor at PCWorld (IDG) is a Microsoft mole, Yee. Infiltrated media, just as Microsoft boaster. [10:20] schestowitz-TR WW1 -> WW2 -> WWW [10:25] Techrights-sec WWW->WWIII [10:25] Techrights-sec the disinformation and digital control fight there has been going on for some [10:25] Techrights-sec year already [10:26] schestowitz-TR "evanglism is war" [10:27] Techrights-sec ack [10:51] schestowitz-TR drafgt [10:51] schestowitz-TR the goal is to bring up or put ion context the layoffs and uefi [10:52] Techrights-sec checking [10:52] Techrights-sec yes, then the layoffs ought to be at least mentioned; also didn't Christian E [10:52] Techrights-sec once calculate that M$ would lose its main money maker, the monopoly rents, [10:52] Techrights-sec once it's desktop market share dropped below something in the mid 80s percent? [10:52] Techrights-sec Another point to drive home is that M$ is either an also-ran or no-show in [10:52] Techrights-sec servers, supercomputers, embedded system, mobile devices, and anything else [10:52] Techrights-sec besides desktops [10:52] Techrights-sec So this decline in client-side markets is the *entirity* of M$ real business, [10:52] Techrights-sec regardless of however much they might make from buying and selling (their own) [10:52] Techrights-sec stock [10:55] schestowitz-TR I need to verify this, but Microsoft "consultants" conned many employees into putting their savings in Microsoft shares ("investment") [10:55] schestowitz-TR so they even lose their salaries now [10:56] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:57] schestowitz-TR another point (made in irc last night): when we went to the large chain here of computers and electronics [10:57] schestowitz-TR the very large shop was mostly empty [10:57] schestowitz-TR not a single person looking at 'Windows' laptops [10:57] schestowitz-TR that might also explain the anguish of Intel [10:57] schestowitz-TR this was yesterday [10:57] schestowitz-TR people look for essentials ● Aug 11 [11:06] Techrights-sec well, for perhaps 5 or more years the laptops themselves and the laptop section [11:06] Techrights-sec they are in make *zero* mention of Windows. It has become that much of a [11:06] Techrights-sec liability [11:14] schestowitz-TR i never thought of it like that, but now that you mention it... [11:14] schestowitz-TR they should call it the "brfoken windows" section [11:14] schestowitz-TR that sells a lot in AV"premiums", too [11:17] Techrights-sec they also sell, at a markup, "AV" and "Office", so there are several perverse [11:17] Techrights-sec incentives to continue to sell M$ Windows, especially since the computers [11:17] Techrights-sec "stop working" rather soon or at least "slow down" due to bloat *and* malware [11:17] Techrights-sec thus driving premature new purchases [11:17] Techrights-sec There was a time about 20 years ago when insurance companies were starting to [11:17] Techrights-sec raise the costs of premiums for NT compared to real operating systems, [11:17] Techrights-sec especially GNU/Linux. However, no idea what became of that. M$ shat bricks overthat. But for the insurance companies it was only about money. [11:17] schestowitz-TR "brfoken windows" [11:41] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:48] Techrights-sec Here is the context for any assertions that M$ generates jobs: [11:48] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window [11:48] Techrights-sec tldr; it's a false assertion [11:48] Techrights-sec http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html#SECTION_G002 [11:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Parable of the broken window - Wikipedia [11:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bastiat.org | That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen; by Frederic Bastiat ● Aug 11 [12:09] schestowitz-TR PR PaRRots are writing from ther same scripts [12:09] schestowitz-TR probably briefed by Shaw and others [12:09] schestowitz-TR some "hey hi" could detect the replicated sentences and yield just NEw info [12:09] schestowitz-TR lost or drowned out [12:21] schestowitz-TR a LOT of cooking done here today [12:21] schestowitz-TR low-cost raw material/foods [12:21] schestowitz-TR too much even [12:21] schestowitz-TR at the store with the PCs/electronics we checked the price of a second freeer [12:21] schestowitz-TR and took into account operational costs, notably power [12:21] schestowitz-TR before the pandemic, maybe we could justify that [12:21] schestowitz-TR and seeing that it's getting hard to find the discounts [12:21] schestowitz-TR it seems now like an unattractive proposition [12:21] schestowitz-TR I wonder if rolling outages (e.g. Switzerland Finaland) start at some pont [12:21] schestowitz-TR whether duration will take into account [12:21] schestowitz-TR food freshness [12:21] schestowitz-TR more importantly though, it won't lower energy use [12:21] schestowitz-TR people just delay and later do what they planned to do anyway [12:21] schestowitz-TR freezer later work harder, for longer, putting at risk their lifetime [12:21] schestowitz-TR so that can end up generating not just wasted food but also appliances going to waste sooner [12:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:23] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:23] schestowitz-TR similarly, if you can hosepipes, people will find workaround, such as filling buckets before the ban, worsening the situation [12:23] schestowitz-TR adkin to panic buying and food shortages, human nature and survival skills deny overpopulation mitigation staretgies [12:23] schestowitz-TR *defy [12:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] Techrights-sec yep it's just mostly about appearances [12:26] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:30] schestowitz-TR outages=sabotage [12:30] schestowitz-TR bans= optics [12:30] schestowitz-TR people are creative [12:30] schestowitz-TR and getting each home to buy a generator worsens things [12:30] schestowitz-TR what fucking generators? DIESEL? Talk about bring air pollution to one's own home and also inefficiencies [12:30] schestowitz-TR like people buying fossil fuel to burn for power to keep online, to keep food cold etc. [12:30] schestowitz-TR What a fucking dumb proposal [12:30] schestowitz-TR condoms are better [12:32] Techrights-sec some idiot got comment published in the online newspaper, which they accepted, [12:32] Techrights-sec and reprinted, saying how to "save" by charging the smartphone in the car :/ [12:32] Techrights-sec Not only is that more expensive it releases fossil carbon [12:32] schestowitz-TR cars burn FAR more energy than what homes use [12:32] schestowitz-TR like bulbs [12:32] schestowitz-TR more so planes [12:32] schestowitz-TR ban THOSE [12:32] schestowitz-TR or limit their use/purchasing [12:32] schestowitz-TR make better public transport [12:33] Techrights-sec yep [12:33] Techrights-sec fwiw since this mornings commmit the Gemini URLs and the HTTP URLs no longer [12:33] Techrights-sec match up exactly in all cases. I hope it is just a temporary measure and [12:33] Techrights-sec it turns out that the clients have been misinterpreting the URLs; it does not [12:33] Techrights-sec make sense that they shoul block UTF8 in the path; these days even the host name [12:33] Techrights-sec can be UTF-8 [12:35] schestowitz-TR for old urls it might be ok [12:35] schestowitz-TR it might break an assumption I make about how to generate the gemini url, based on xml feed in https [12:35] schestowitz-TR another option is, avoid special chars in headlines [12:35] schestowitz-TR if possible [12:36] Techrights-sec The URLs for the XHTML pages can be mutilated in the same manner so as to ensure [12:36] Techrights-sec synchronization. Should that be done? [12:36] schestowitz-TR yes, falkon too struggles with some urls that libreworld/ff can cope with [12:36] schestowitz-TR but hopefully change only applicable to future urls [12:36] schestowitz-TR to avoid 404s [12:38] Techrights-sec ok, [12:38] Techrights-sec 404s are just fine until the site goes into production, we might have to [12:38] Techrights-sec change the whole URL path (or not) by that time, probably not though [12:39] schestowitz-TR i thinkwe cna keep the same url scheme and add more sections to make the site more useful [12:39] schestowitz-TR drupal was too limiting [12:39] schestowitz-TR so the front page can be more "spicy" with more useful stuff for NEW visitors, then there's the news section as part of it [12:40] schestowitz-TR like techrights with The Four Latest Stories [12:40] Techrights-sec yes, the more generic things are the less they fit [12:48] Techrights-sec when the site does go into production the old domain news.tuxmachines.org can [12:48] Techrights-sec redirect all /n/ URLs to the main page of the formal domain tuxmachines.org [12:51] schestowitz-TR tghe existing domain stayed in restricted, read-only mode [12:51] schestowitz-TR as there is a lot of stuff there like distro reviews [12:51] schestowitz-TR and historical archives [12:51] schestowitz-TR we don't want to do what groklaw did.. [12:51] schestowitz-TR groklow likely looked for way to lower bills for ibm/ibiblio [12:51] schestowitz-TR by doing so they also sabotaged a lot of hard-worked-for work [12:51] schestowitz-TR without any consultation with those who left a lot of comments, Daily News Picks etc. [12:53] Techrights-sec right but the alpha site is a throwaway [12:53] Techrights-sec it exists to hammer out bugs and polish details [12:58] schestowitz-TR no need to throw it away [12:58] schestowitz-TR it is robust enough [12:58] schestowitz-TR just need to set up backup routine for its DB an the files [12:58] schestowitz-TR one option is, we can redirect the rss feed at one pointbut it can confuse some people [12:58] schestowitz-TR there will be about 2000 nodes that need migrating from old to new [12:58] schestowitz-TR I make sure I edit nothing older than these [12:58] schestowitz-TR as the intention is to revert back to an old snapshot of old after that [12:58] schestowitz-TR a more consistent DB state [12:58] schestowitz-TR after we do all this we can start working on TR migration ● Aug 11 [13:01] Techrights-sec ack [13:01] schestowitz-TR I like how TM is now, it looks like a newspaper and it's a no-bullshit, no-bloat, quick to load access to latest news [13:01] schestowitz-TR drupal is to sealife what an aquiarrium is [13:01] schestowitz-TR and that put many limitations [13:01] schestowitz-TR no gemini, no push notifications, no management through git [13:01] schestowitz-TR drush exists, but it's not the same [13:03] Techrights-sec ack [13:06] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:11] schestowitz-TR poor analogy, but I thought of it while feeding the wish [13:11] schestowitz-TR letter to the editor: the idiot who shink burening engine fuel to charge a "smart" phone (might as well just use old Nokia phone) might need discover living in your [13:11] schestowitz-TR own cars can save all the costs associated with home ownwership [13:11] schestowitz-TR [cue analogy of clown computing as "cost saver"... like using public toilets exclusively... even in the middle of the night... saves you water and paper) [13:11] schestowitz-TR sorry, many typos above [13:11] schestowitz-TR "we don't need shower and toilets at home" "we don't need any hardware for our business, we can lease" [13:11] schestowitz-TR BTW, the gym we went to quit owning the equipment in it [13:11] schestowitz-TR now they just RENT it all from a company with servicing as part of the contract [13:11] schestowitz-TR gmy-eqipment-as-a-service [13:15] Techrights-sec renting like that sounds like they don't plan to stay in business long [13:15] Techrights-sec equipment is the core of such a facility [13:17] schestowitz-TR they already rebranded as "the spa" in 2016 [13:17] schestowitz-TR and they turning the squash court into the gym, in effect taking away other facilities like pingpong, exercise flood, aquash/racketball [13:17] schestowitz-TR the price wasn't too bad, but it's not safe there [13:17] schestowitz-TR for reasons I explained beofre [13:17] schestowitz-TR overnight I sent you some links to my blog [13:19] Techrights-sec getting rid of the equipment is a big step towards liquidation of the whole [13:19] Techrights-sec business [13:19] Techrights-sec ok checking [13:20] Techrights-sec it's (intentionally) difficult to keep track of the transmission rates [13:20] Techrights-sec and the mortality rates because the responsible agencies have taken to [13:20] Techrights-sec hiding or delaying the data [13:20] Techrights-sec publication [13:21] schestowitz-TR they don't even compre apples and apples anymore [13:21] schestowitz-TR so whatever numbers they do publish actually embellish the situation [13:21] schestowitz-TR but many people fogot that [13:22] Techrights-sec ack [13:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [14:37] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [15:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:43] Techrights-sec torrent ratios: peppermint devuan 6.5; linux mint 20.3 cinnamon 2.3; [15:43] Techrights-sec linux mint 20.3 mate 1.8; linux mint 21 cinnamon 0.9; etc [15:43] Techrights-sec not statiticically significant anecdote [15:43] Techrights-sec ^statistically [15:53] schestowitz-TR Masks - the last bastion of privacy gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.masks.gmi "An interesting side-effect of wearing a mask, one not talked about (or at least not to me) is that if you wear a mask, you are not as easily tracked by the surveillance state." [15:55] schestowitz-TR we bought a lot of disposable maska and sanitiser yesterdat [15:55] schestowitz-TR we also have lots of masks that are not disposable [15:55] schestowitz-TR the hope if to mask for the next 5 years [15:55] schestowitz-TR sometimes I had sunglasses and hat [15:55] schestowitz-TR nobody complains [15:55] Techrights-sec ack [15:55] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [16:01] schestowitz-TR "Ubers entire model has been about breakingif not smashinglabor law (and worker power) through systematic misclassification." https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/10/sleeping-at-the-wheel-the-uber-files-the-media-and-the-coup-against-labor-rights/ | Source: Scheerpost [16:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sleeping at the Wheel: The Uber Files, the Media, and the Coup Against Labor Rights scheerpost.com [16:03] Techrights-sec ack [16:05] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:06] schestowitz-TR potential threats: [16:06] schestowitz-TR - they'll say only ill people wear it [16:07] schestowitz-TR - only pedos like michaerl jackson [16:07] schestowitz-TR -it makes you suspicious [16:07] schestowitz-TR .... maybe more, in a matter of years [16:07] schestowitz-TR many thing this virus is over (and they hide the data, ignore it in the media) [16:08] schestowitz-TR "protect the children" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/10/eu-commissioner-pens-barely-coherent-defense-of-spying-on-everyone-for-the-children/ | Source: Techdirt [16:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EU Commissioner Pens Barely Coherent Defense Of Spying On Everyone, For The Children | Techdirt [16:11] schestowitz-TR "As student debt in America reaches a record-breaking $1.8 trillion among 45 million federal borrowers" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/student-debt-cancellation-movement/ | Source: The Nation [16:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | What's Next for the Student Debt Cancellation Movement? | The Nation [16:40] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [17:16] schestowitz-TR Not a good idea. That would be appeasing GAFAM. http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/08/please-relicense-from-perl-5-to-mit-or-apache-20-license.html [17:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Please relicense from "Perl 5" to MIT or Apache 2.0 license | dean [blogs.perl.org] [17:55] schestowitz-TR rianne has feedbkac on the UI [17:55] schestowitz-TR today she got stuck when posting kernel releases (stable) [17:55] schestowitz-TR it said the title was long and thus slug was too long [17:55] schestowitz-TR she didn't know that that means and how to overcome iot [17:55] schestowitz-TR maybe automatically truncate slug for long headlines? ● Aug 11 [18:13] Techrights-sec thanks! [18:13] Techrights-sec I'll check it and ensure that the slug is truncated if it is too long [18:13] Techrights-sec iirc the limit is 63 char, but the entry can be made more smoot [18:15] schestowitz-TR cheers! noted to her, we have too much food atm -- opposite prob of last week [18:15] schestowitz-TR will clean my rss feeds, then try to do some articles [18:15] schestowitz-TR topics needed, I lack topics [18:24] schestowitz-TR "A friend who is a serious jock bike rider got the virus recently. On day 5 he felt much better, and after testing negative, could not resist a little bike ride (which would probably kill me, but like I said, he bikes all the time)." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.virus.gmi ● Aug 11 [19:44] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:55] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [20:28] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [21:30] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:47] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [22:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@nwnqkpaj4kzjn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 11 [23:20] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [23:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:41] Techrights-sec one topic would be the significance of M$ having lost its monopoly rents [23:41] Techrights-sec if it loses its OEM monopoly that'd be enough to finish it off quickly [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:58] psydruid driving software bloat with a view to selling new hardware fits this agenda [23:59] psydruid if we keep software lean and mean good enough hardware can keep up with new hardware running bloated software stacks