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schestowitz>> Wilbur hates that bunch.Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> It wasn't an endorsement I was thinking of, more of a review.Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> Specifically I was thinking of her refund infographic.Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> StallmanWasRightOct 11 00:34
schestowitz> Oct 11 00:34
schestowitz> #StallmanWasRightAGAINOct 11 00:34
schestowitz> https://itmunch.com/unix-vs-linux-key-differences/Oct 11 00:35
schestowitz> Oct 11 00:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-itmunch.com | Unix vs Linux: All you need to know | iTMunchOct 11 00:35
schestowitz> ^ This is misleading garbage that at one point says AIX is Linux (TheyOct 11 00:35
schestowitz> meant Unix.) It refers to Linux as an operating system, and gets lots ofOct 11 00:35
schestowitz> things partially or completely wrong.Oct 11 00:35
schestowitz> Oct 11 00:35
schestowitz> Links aren't a big deal, but this was along with a bunch of links toOct 11 00:35
schestowitz> stuff from GitHub like Ranger, SCUMMVM and whatever else. I normallyOct 11 00:35
schestowitz> ignore the links, but sometimes one is very interesting.Oct 11 00:35
schestowitzI already publicly ridiculed the above linkOct 11 00:35
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schestowitzx ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8826335/Bill-Gates-warns-COVID-19-deaths-dont-act-together.htmlOct 11 08:09
schestowitz# bill sezOct 11 08:09
schestowitzhttps://archive.org/details/e-dv208_cambridge_10_freedman_09-05_007.ogg/e-dv208_cambridge_10_freedman_09-05_007.mpgOct 11 08:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.org | Not finished: Nat Friedman 11 : Christian Einfeldt : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet ArchiveOct 11 08:34
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schestowitzShould we take 1:40 onwards from this video?Oct 11 08:38
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schestowitz> This one seems to have a lot of image but no text?Oct 11 12:13
schestowitz> Oct 11 12:13
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/Oct 11 12:13
schestowitzYes, notice the post slug, too (bagel-reports-as-images). They later show up in things like Google Images, which helps...Oct 11 12:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) ‘No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel’ | TechrightsOct 11 12:13
schestowitz>> https://archive.org/details/e-dv208_cambridge_10_freedman_09-05_007.ogg/e-dv208_cambridge_10_freedman_09-05_007.mpgOct 11 12:13
schestowitz>>Oct 11 12:13
schestowitz> Oct 11 12:14
schestowitz> Ok. From 1:45 onwards, where he starts about communities.Oct 11 12:14
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schestowitz> You were joking, right? You were just talking about the limitations ofOct 11 15:44
schestowitz> SSDs... USB sticks and spindrives are not a lot better.Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> You know these are a thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDiscOct 11 15:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | M-DISC - WikipediaOct 11 15:44
schestowitz> Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> schestowitzOct 11 15:44
schestowitz> dvd is obsoleteOct 11 15:44
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:46Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> <http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-101020.html#tOctOct 11 15:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, October 10, 2020Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> 10 01:46:52>Oct 11 15:44
schestowitz> schestowitzOct 11 15:44
schestowitz> it's for old media cartel distributionOct 11 15:44
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A03SVNsJaFyuqmujR2Oct 11 18:50
schestowitz"Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzWe tried again later and it worked. :)Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzHaving said that, #MoreOnionsPerFavorOct 11 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-activism.openworlds.info | Dick Smiths Fair Go Supporters: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site We tried again later an…" - ActivismOct 11 18:50
schestowitz"Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A03KrdF4KaGBFQeePIOct 11 18:50
schestowitz"Oct 11 18:50
schestowitz"Slashdot still pushing this whole '#Linux is #Microsoft / #Windows' "  Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzAm I right in thinking that you think that this isn't plausible / feasible?Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzHave you set out your thinking? I'd be interested to have a read.Oct 11 18:50
schestowitz"Oct 11 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-metalhead.club | mark: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site: "Slashdot still pushin…" - \m/ Metalhead.club \m/Oct 11 18:50
schestowitzI responded: http://techrights.org/2020/09/25/re-last-phase-of-the-desktop-wars/Oct 11 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Response to Eric Raymond (ESR) on “Last Phase of the Desktop Wars” | TechrightsOct 11 18:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A02mm3HdCTRjpo1MDAOct 11 18:51
schestowitz"Chris mirrors his content on LBRY too, which is a FOSS, non-DRM alternative. Watch this video on LBRY here: https://lbry.tv/@christitustech:5/clone-any-system:d"Oct 11 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mas.to | adnan360: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site Chris mirrors his conte…" - mas.toOct 11 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lbry.tv | Clone Any SystemOct 11 18:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A02mRdtRtFShITygOOOct 11 18:51
schestowitz" Brodie is on #LBRY, which is FOSS. So you can link from LBRY instead: https://lbry.tv/@BrodieRobertson:5/flatpak-the-final-universal-linux:6"Oct 11 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Operation timed out after 10000 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/A02mRdtRtFShITygOO )Oct 11 18:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lbry.tv | Flatpak: The Final Universal Linux Package SystemOct 11 18:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A02I7dstDV6OqvGNw8Oct 11 18:52
schestowitz"fetal tissue from ELECTIVE abortions is the platform."Oct 11 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Operation timed out after 10012 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/A02I7dstDV6OqvGNw8 )Oct 11 18:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/A01pv7Jnfmthex5cRMOct 11 18:53
schestowitz":/"Oct 11 18:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mathstodon.xyz | pretentious7: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site :/" - MathstodonOct 11 18:53
schestowitz> Hi,Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz> If there is time maybe we can reword the sentence that bsddev pointed out as such:Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz> "Realization that the central nature of the "Freedom"  which is attached to Free Software resides in the participation of the community should impact upon the design and character of the coding itself."Oct 11 19:49
schestowitzI could still change that, if that's a critical change...Oct 11 19:49
schestowitz>> Best if condensed in fewer but longer emails.Oct 11 19:57
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:57
schestowitz> There's no mechanism to consolidate my posts that isn't easier toOct 11 19:57
schestowitz> implement on your side. I won't let a draft sit in my email account, andOct 11 19:57
schestowitz> I don't think of this stuff all at once.Oct 11 19:57
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> If it's less email you want, you'll get less email. If you want the sameOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> amount of email in fewer pieces, you should make a folder. You run emailOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> on your own server, you could make an account just for a specific typeOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> of "flooding"--Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> You could autosort based on some title tag that I would be happy toOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> accomodate-- all sorts of solutions dating back 20 years in terms ofOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> first use are at your disposal.Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> If it has to be on my end, I'll simply send you a lower quantity. ButOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> that is implemented in wetware as "don't bother" and is the quiet thatOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> rms enjoys.Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> It's up to you. Not to be obtuse as I'm sure it will sound like, butOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> this is what being practical (within real-life limitations) looks like.Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> To be honest I'm surprised you can't think of a way to manage this withOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> technology. I'm not deliberately trying to break your system of dealingOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> with email. If this correspondence costs you an hour a week (I know IOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> spend well over an hour, you likely do as well) or 2 hours a month, youOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> can invest one of those hours in fixing this and keep the rest forOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> yourself in the future.Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> Oct 11 19:58
schestowitz> Chances are, all you'll buy by fixing this more extreme example isOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> greater efficiency in dealing with other examples as well. But the otherOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> option (going relatively quiet and simply saying less-- which becomesOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> ingrained and results in less material) is still an option. If there wasOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> a third option I would have implemented it by now. The choice is reallyOct 11 19:58
schestowitz> yours, because whatever you choose, you'll get.Oct 11 19:58
schestowitzI think we've found a good solution. In my RSS feeds I now see wiki changes with your ongoing stuff on it, For preparation of material this might be ideal, as we can even co-edit those :-)Oct 11 19:58
schestowitzSide story: as a young pdf student in 2003 I introduces colleagues to this thing called "wiki" and said, let's edit a paper on this thing (installed on my site at the time).Oct 11 19:59
schestowitzNobody participated, they just kept sending around massive attachments :/ and you could not detect and review changes.Oct 11 19:59
schestowitz> The problem is that I can't predict ideas I will have the future, or IOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> would already have them.Oct 11 20:01
schestowitz> Oct 11 20:01
schestowitz> The easiest technical solution I can think of (one that requiresOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> basically zero work on your part) is to simply utilise the wiki for allOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> submissions (Except completed articles?) and abolish email for otherOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> communication.Oct 11 20:01
schestowitz> Oct 11 20:01
schestowitz> That way edits and additions can be made, things end up on your sideOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> instantaneously (which is one reason among others I never let drafts sitOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> around) and it will actually fix your problem. Other than that, it'sOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> very unconventional. But there are plenty of more conventional thingsOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> you could do. I dunno, give it a bit of thought. I could setup a bufferOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> (or two) on your side this way, and you could access it, and whether youOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> bothered adding it to the logs would be (relatively) moot since the wikiOct 11 20:01
schestowitz> would serve as a log instead.Oct 11 20:01
schestowitzI like the idea. Very good.Oct 11 20:01
schestowitzDo you want to coedit some things there and use that for review with changelogs? We actually did that in techrights a long, long time ago... around 2009. Then we stopped.Oct 11 20:01
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Work_in_ProgressOct 11 20:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Work in Progress - TechrightsOct 11 20:04

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