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| Techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 11 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 10, 2022 | Oct 11 08:21 | |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for the topi suggestion | Oct 11 08:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Oil-rich countries seem to be pushing for "MAGA", i.e. destabilising the West ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/maga-wave-midterm-elections/ | Source: The Nation | Oct 11 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The Dangers of a MAGA Wave Election | The Nation | Oct 11 08:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | i wrote about opensource.com (wanted to write it ysterday, then forgot what I had in mind due to too many things going on at once) | Oct 11 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | hackaday also deteriorated, but I don't think it coinicided with the change of editor | Oct 11 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it was months apart | Oct 11 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they used to have better stories/projects | Oct 11 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | couterpunch might not last another 2 years | Oct 11 08:54 |
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| Techrights-sec | np | Oct 11 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new editor is egoistic, self-promoting, and barely covers linux | Oct 11 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | the effect of a change in editor can take place over time, stories are in | Oct 11 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | the pipeline for up to a few weeks, but also the editor can shift beats and | Oct 11 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | priorities and drive out old staff and bring in flunkies | Oct 11 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Not a surprise, he was probably selected for all three traits. :( | Oct 11 11:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Especially ignoring Linux and FOSS in general | Oct 11 11:10 |
| Techrights-sec | What is the age of the new editor? I would posit that few millenials and almost | Oct 11 11:17 |
| Techrights-sec | no genZ have actual computer experience. | Oct 11 11:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Raspberry Pi Foundation was trying to turn that around but got hit simultaneously from several sides, including infiltration on multiple levels. | Oct 11 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure of the age, just name | Oct 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | paradoxically, more people than ever have access to computes | Oct 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the past, it was few | Oct 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | they were more advanced | Oct 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wonder if only the % that is literature went down or also the totals | Oct 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol spamnil's spam now goes with generic author name, "news team" | Oct 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | some "team", eh? | Oct 11 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "enderle GROUP" | Oct 11 11:20 |
| psydruid | the "news" media are complicit in actively fighting the inevitable victory of free software over closed source software because they know the companies that fund them stand to lose | Oct 11 11:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 11 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM seems to be doing kamikaze on it. it sounds bizarre until you count how microsofters entered management positions there | Oct 11 11:31 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Oct 11 12:38 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 11 12:38 |
| Techrights-sec | still empty | Oct 11 12:38 |
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| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Acronyms CI, SPI, and GSoC should be expanded when they first occur. | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | s/with neither/without either/ | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | It might be more clear to add an additional sentence clarifying that at least | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | one of thsoe two browsers must now be present in Debian. If they are hard | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | dependencies for base packages then that should be mentioned too | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Does that apply to just the desktop or does it affect Debian in other forms, | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | server and embedded etc | Oct 11 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the thing I don't know | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Oct 11 12:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | need to ask dfc | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | It'd be an important fact to have covered in the article. | Oct 11 12:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ none of the above is worth quoting and doing so distracts from the message | Oct 11 13:18 |
| Techrights-sec | and detracts from the article :/ | Oct 11 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft TCO; the company is not compatible with the notion of security, but it's a "market leader" in NSA back doors. https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/living-off-the-cloud-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-exfiltration/ | Oct 11 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pentestpartners.com | Living off the Cloud. Cloudy with a Chance of Exfiltration | Pen Test Partners | Oct 11 13:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ipwatchdog seems like it's dying. Just 2 or 3 comments this week. We remember it being a hub for many people. The editor left years ago, seeing the demise alrea | Oct 11 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | The problem with m$ goes beyond software. If m$ products are present at all | Oct 11 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec | on the network, you do not have a technical problem but a staffing problem which | Oct 11 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec | in all likelihood extends up into the management levels. | Oct 11 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec | m$ is completely incompatible with common notions of security. | Oct 11 13:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have a general, board question | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | assuming people are still on the Net, no less than before | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | where does your intuition tell you they are at? | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm doing a quick post about this | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | sandvine gave some stats | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | froom observation (just one person, rianne, during lockdown), it's lots of "videos" | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and scrolling down infinite scroll pages like BBC | Oct 11 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | without really opening pages | Oct 11 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure where they are. I get a lot of people assuming that other | Oct 11 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | people are in social control media, but there is no way to sort that from | Oct 11 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | disinformation and hype at the moment. | Oct 11 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Videos are a big problem. You can watch in a 45 minute video what you could | Oct 11 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | once read in 5 minutes or less. So if people are watching instead of reading | Oct 11 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | that would make a huge time difference. | Oct 11 13:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I will stick to observaable facts | Oct 11 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | without hypothesising too much | Oct 11 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | tiktok looks like 90s shit on steroids | Oct 11 13:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | is it even profitable? | Oct 11 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | we discussed this months ago and I cannot recall the conclusion | Oct 11 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | who pays for all this bandwidth and what for? | Oct 11 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Never seen TikTok, just read about the damage and addictiveness and disinformation surrounding it. | Oct 11 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, the cost of not just bandwidth but the ever-increasing storage is a big | Oct 11 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | question. TikTok seems to try to take on the latter by focusing on "shorts". | Oct 11 13:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | theory: many "tech" or "web" companies gambled on a future that never came | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | mnanyh folded in the dot com boom | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but some had a second go or second life | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | those that the regime (debt, "defencE") subsidise are there to spy, manipulate, censors | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like youtube does... ramping it up very rapidly | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and tiktok is the same ezxcept one of the tentaclkes from the CCP | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | CPP | Oct 11 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | CPC | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | I guess it is now capped at 10min, up from 3 min: | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/28/tiktok-expands-max-video-length-to-10-minutes-up-from-3-minutes/ | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | ByteDance is beholden to and operates only under the permission of the CCP | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | ByteDance is a surveillance and propaganda engine by design. | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | It'd not be that different for another country to start up a youth-targeting | Oct 11 13:49 |
| Techrights-sec | video site using Palantir or Team Cymru or one of the others. :( | Oct 11 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TikTok expands max video length to 10 minutes, up from 3 minutes • TechCrunch | Oct 11 13:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, palantor and bytedance don't make a profit | Oct 11 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | something shores them up | Oct 11 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Probably not, that's not what they are about anyway. They are both about | Oct 11 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | surveillance. The former is done as a company in order to evade the constraints | Oct 11 13:50 |
| Techrights-sec | and oversight required of the public sector. | Oct 11 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not fair competition | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's worse than graft asthe activity is illegal | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was told that also by a whistleblower | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | by companies that do this | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also do election meddling | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I read somewhere byt cannot find the ref atm that BoA expects 175k layoffs a month or a week | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | just in time for US election | Oct 11 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | sleepy needs to wake up and not pretend there's a recovery and "pandemic is over" | Oct 11 13:56 |
| Techrights-sec | Probably. | Oct 11 13:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Recall that both Snowden and Winner were excempt from whistleblowers' protection | Oct 11 13:57 |
| Techrights-sec | due to the hard fact that they were working in the private sector. | Oct 11 13:57 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.efinancialcareers.fi/news/2022/09/goldman-sachs-hiring-and-firing | Oct 11 14:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Oct 11 14:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Those aren't real jobs though but could be an indirect indicator of more | Oct 11 14:10 |
| Techrights-sec | substantial parts of the economy | Oct 11 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.efinancialcareers.fi | Goldman Sachs is firing in places it was hiring only last year | Oct 11 14:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | people who sit on some savings are far better off | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | because stress and uncertainty harrm helath | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and health too became "expensive" | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | mortgage vs savinbgs vs kids | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | imho, ime, many chose the first and last | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not anything else | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, gambling on a future we will never have | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids used to be a way for parents to insure their future (old age), not they're mostly a burden | Oct 11 14:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Oct 11 14:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you want to se a specialist fast, and a good one, you must pay | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | "infortmally" | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the formal policy is that everyone has access | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | removing national health care may mean short term "savings" in one's salary | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but russian roulette with one's health | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | as costs of care rapidly grow like in USA | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | more like price-fixing cartels | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | see insulin | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | sleepy did not solve the problem | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor did he tackle patents on covid-19 stuff | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | useless waste of time | Oct 11 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | interlufe between two fascists or the same fascist | Oct 11 14:16 |
| Techrights-sec | The US does not have health care, it has a medicine industry. Any treatment | Oct 11 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | is a mere side effect and almost an afterthought. The details of what and how | Oct 11 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | to treat "patients" are left up to MBAs and MDs are excluded from that for the | Oct 11 14:17 |
| Techrights-sec | most part. | Oct 11 14:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've tossed in a draft | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | still getting some graphis and stuff | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | to shown the "knowns" | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *show | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | damning for the www imho | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and serves to show the death of www as info medium | Oct 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe "apps" are all the rage | Oct 11 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 11 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | The last chart, the one with the blue peak in sites, could be analyzed more | Oct 11 14:34 |
| Techrights-sec | because it is showing a rather important phenomenon | Oct 11 14:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, hence I share incomplete draft | Oct 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just added speculations to the text and fioxed loads of typos | Oct 11 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | "apps" are outdated, insecure, bug-ridden single-site browsers running | Oct 11 14:35 |
| Techrights-sec | insecure, bug-ridden javascript over HTTPS and not even a stateful protocol | Oct 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | random thought: maybe 20 years from now the skills associated with operating a web site will be similar to running bbs today | Oct 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we don't know yet | Oct 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | eff, fsf, and wikileaks very quiet and little impact | Oct 11 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | cc bounced back for a month, went silent again | Oct 11 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe too busy in social control cages | Oct 11 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | https://thephantomtollbooth.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_Senses-Taker | Oct 11 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thephantomtollbooth.fandom.com | The Official Senses-Taker | The Phantom Tollbooth Wiki | Fandom | Oct 11 14:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR | solid (ms github, JS) was a solid failure | Oct 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | timbl is a one-trick pony | Oct 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | right place, right time imho | Oct 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | github will also be small 5 years from now | Oct 11 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can't make money off it | Oct 11 14:58 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway social control media in a nutshell: | Oct 11 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | https://thephantomtollbooth.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_Senses-Taker | Oct 11 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | timbl was great up until, for whatever reason, he bailed on the vision and | Oct 11 14:59 |
| Techrights-sec | sold out to DRM | Oct 11 14:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, drm came much later than his sellout | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | a continuation of a negative trend | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes I wonder if it's the same pattern as eff (founders), lt, rms... | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | how people are sucked out of their own orgs | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | seemingly with their consent | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | having been emotionally drained | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | assange was an extremely case (torture/assassination) | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *extreme | Oct 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, opensource.org and .com are not coming back | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | as microsoft outposts | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they alienate the original audience | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like linux.com | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | brands coming under attack | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | persistent and vicious | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point oof surrendering and... "you own us now" | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | remember wikileaksforums (anti-WL) and trolls (MAGA< Russia) who spoiled the wikileaks brand | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | making it seem like some edgy alt-reich/putin thing | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is strange as upon examination of who runs it those are mostly leftists | Oct 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | similarly, in the medical profession, many who ask for no patents or better vaccines or anothe rtreatment/plicy would be painted as nationalists and | Oct 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | k00ky radicals who block roads with trucks and whatnot. bill gates has roped in this straw man. | Oct 11 15:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 11 15:15 |
| schestowitz | "[LSCTH] Slides info session rewards 2022 - Guidance document on contesting lack of promotion, steps, bonus" | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Dear colleagues, | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Please find the complete slides accompanying the information session on the 2022 rewards exercise which took place on September 13th. The slides can serve as a guide for future reference. | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Related publications: | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Oct 11 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 11 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | s/mhe/the/ | Oct 11 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | EPO? or EPO? Please expand the acronym | Oct 11 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | s/worki/work/ | Oct 11 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Please expand the acronnym EPC too | Oct 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | thought: apps are lile tabs that follow you around on a phone even when the tabs are not open ("apps" leak data all the time) | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | china is the incubator of a lot of spy and social control INNOVA~1 fore western nations to imitat^H^Hpirate | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | wrt law, cops and regimes become less predictable | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a form of deterrance | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the irrational dictator | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't mess with him, he always gets his way, he's in power | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of prior art for today's GAFAM patents would have to be in china | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | in mandarin | Oct 11 16:05 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/covid-cases-rise-shanghai-other-chinese-cities-preventive-steps-strengthened-2022-10-11/ | Oct 11 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-China steps up anti-COVID measures in megacities as infections mount | Reuters | Oct 11 16:11 | |
| schestowitz-TR | usuaually, you would say, haha, f* china | Oct 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this will mostly penalise the west | Oct 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's our "warehouse" and cheap labour pool | Oct 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it further harms OUT economies | Oct 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | *OUR | Oct 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you can get a factory down the road to make plastic items for one euro a pair and find a river stream onto which to dump the toxins | Oct 11 16:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR | some idiot in $company wants to distribute "mobile phones" to staff for "security" | Oct 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | what a circus | Oct 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | passwords outsourced to firm in another continent, with trrack record of security breaches | Oct 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many other laughable steps back | Oct 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | from secure infra to GLFAM crap | Oct 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now this... | Oct 11 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 11 17:59 |
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| psydruid | https://web.archive.org/web/20221006113141/https://sei.cade.gov.br/sei/modulos/pesquisa/md_pesq_documento_consulta_externa.php?HJ7F4wnIPj2Y8B7Bj80h1lskjh7ohC8yMfhLoDBLddZou1UxFwR2xny_H8WpNqBA9LEUmxpnNJZhTSHmSvXvpffRtONbaxBeOzHPgm0V3c1aCdhWaTZo9OtUDTJX_L_7 | Oct 11 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | SEI/CADE - 1128655 - Parecer | Oct 11 21:57 | |
| psydruid | Microsoft the gaming company is said to be earning $3 billion a year on Xbox console games | Oct 11 21:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | revenue or profit? | Oct 11 22:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | xbox was losses | Oct 11 22:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they game the numbersa | Oct 11 22:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | and count the share of other companies | Oct 11 22:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | like those actually making the games | Oct 11 22:01 |
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| psydruid | it's not clear | Oct 11 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably by intention | Oct 11 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | xbox has been an experiment and failure | Oct 11 22:18 |
| psydruid | and I'm not going to read that entire filing | Oct 11 22:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to write about it regularly | Oct 11 22:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they kept lying about market performance | Oct 11 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | profits went to the japanese companies | Oct 11 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for instance | Oct 11 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can go like | Oct 11 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | xbox network made 3 billion in revenue | Oct 11 22:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then the money got distributed | Oct 11 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | 60% to developers of the games | Oct 11 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | 60% to salaries | Oct 11 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. net loss | Oct 11 22:20 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they will try to tell you what THEY want you to think | Oct 11 22:20 |
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| psydruid | there was some other "news" about a collaboration with Suckermeta | Oct 11 22:27 |
| psydruid | they are like a parasite that moves from host to host doing whatever to stay in business | Oct 11 22:27 |
| psydruid | if the software business fails they move to new hypes | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | failing that, liaise with NSA, ask for bailouts etc. | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | basically try to become part of the government | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they keep you afloat like Big Banks | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | with medical data | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | military stuff | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | (that's IBM, too) | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | Windows sales collapsed | Oct 11 22:28 |
| psydruid | I don't know if such a chameleon has existed in the computer business before other than their big example IBM | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the sales are like 90% "new" PCs | Oct 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now many people buy such PCs | Oct 11 22:28 |
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| psydruid | Vista 12 is coming while Vista 11 is barely seeing any use | Oct 11 22:44 |
| psydruid | they see the writing on the wall and struggle for survival | Oct 11 22:45 |
| psydruid | so get entangled and try to become "mission-critical" | Oct 11 22:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Oct 11 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Too big to fail" | Oct 11 23:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | just checked taiwan and india | Oct 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | in india android is now 75% | Oct 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | windows 17% | Oct 11 23:12 |
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