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| schestowitz | |On May 7, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) published a Notice in the Federal Register regarding the implementation of a new pilot program for COVID-19 related applications (COVID-19 Pilot Program). Under the COVID-19 Pilot Program, the USPTO would grant prioritized examination, similar to the existing Track One Prioritized Examination program, to applications claiming a product or process related to COVID-19, which “ | May 12 01:04 |
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| schestowitz | must be subject to an applicable FDA approval for COVID-19 use”....| | May 12 01:04 |
| schestowitz | WTF | May 12 01:04 |
| schestowitz | patent craze | May 12 01:04 |
| schestowitz | >> yeah… | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> can’t say I really get what makes Gitlab any better than Github. | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> At least Microsoft hosts NSA/CIA grade tools for hacking Microsoft on Github. | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> (just do a search for “Shadowbrokers” on github) | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> So… you know… whatever. shrug | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> can’t say I really get what makes Gitlab any better than Github. | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > its not fundamentally better, its not any different (at all) in theory, only in practice. in practice, gitlabs owners arent trying to destroy free software for TWENTY YEARS STRAIGHT. thats not a real difference? | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > whenever someone attacks microsoft, you invariably imply theyre not “really any different” than anybody else. then someone explains it, then you invariably pull the same shtick in any other anti-microsoft thread. its getting to seem a bit disingenuous, a bit like outright shilling for them. | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> At least Microsoft hosts NSA/CIA grade tools | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > theyre also known to be in bed with the nsa. “at least?” | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | >> So… you know… whatever. shrug | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > yeah, but youre pretending that nobody answers your question. when people have answered it again and again. | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Laughable! | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Waste of time! | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Trolls! | May 12 01:10 |
| schestowitz | > GCC uses software from Github. | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > Gcc/d/dmd/parse.c is from the D programming language, from the D language foundation, which is developing it on Github. | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > So if you really want to make a Github-free operating system, the first thing you would need to create is A HARD FORK OF GCC. No compiler, no distro-- Github-free is impossible in the current state of the GNU project. MICROSOFT GNU-- Checkmate, Ka-boom. | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | But... | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | You can disable or not use D support in GCC, correct? | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | Re: GCC isn't Github-free | May 12 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > Don't worry, I've already figured out how to "spin" this positive (wait for the rest of the email, I already know this is going to be quoted) in a way that all hope isn't lost, it's merely extremely unlikely. It will be all about "How much it would take for GNU to be GitHub-free." It won't omit any of the bad news. This isn't really "spin" so much as "if you care about software freedom, you don't have to throw yourself off the 4th | May 12 01:12 |
| schestowitz | floor of the GNU offices." But it's still pretty fucking bad news! | May 12 01:12 |
| schestowitz | >>> I’m not pro Microsoft | May 12 01:12 |
| schestowitz | > you might as well be, youre using their evangelist tactics, and cloaking the threat they pose by projecting their actions onto the alternatives. | May 12 01:12 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:12 |
| schestowitz | > deny, deny, deny, when you know people here already have their number. if its not your job, why go to the trouble? there are conversations with actual microsoft employees (using real names and titles) on twitter that go EXACTLY like this one. youre emulating those conversations perfectly. youre a shill, al. whether youre a compensated shill or just a fanboy, youre doing it exactly by the book. why go to so much trouble to defend | May 12 01:13 |
| schestowitz | microsoft? youve done it so many times. why bother? ITS NOT OUT OF CURIOUSITY. you dont ask the same question over and over, always getting the same answer-- just out of curiosity. so why do it, al? what do YOU get? | May 12 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > That's a classic troll line. | May 12 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Focus on non-trolls. | May 12 01:13 |
| schestowitz | >>> Reassuring. Note the parallels in tactics used to promote 5G these | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> days. The debate has been ignored and the media's attention has shifted | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> to the chaos created by disinformation and crackpottery spread via | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> facebook by groups paid for by various interests. One example there is | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> that the impact on weather radar is abandoned in favor of how stupid it | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> is to think that radio waves cause virus outbreaks. That's some serious | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> propaganda kung fu there. Bill's team has been using saturate, diffuse, | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> and confuse tactics against all media, not just what they bribe, for | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> many years now. Lately it is many orders of magnitude worse though. I | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> am concerned that there's a reason for that, otherwise they would not | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> spend the money. | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >> Keeping the population dumb contributes to this agenda. | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > This has been building for four decades in the US. The team behind | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > Reagan slashed funding education and has been sawing at what is left | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > non-stop ever since. The last few decades they've taken it further and | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > have cultivated an anti-knowledge and anti-science attitude among their | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > minions. Yes, they are easy to manipulate that way but it comes at the | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > expense of destroying the country's viability. They're not in it for | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | > the long game however. | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Even the Soviet Union was not >this< self-harming. | May 12 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18077967#fae7190075aa0138de182a0000053625 | May 12 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch: #freesoftware ### The GitHubification of Free Software http://techrights.org/2020/05/09/the-githubification-of-freesw/ By yours truly. | May 12 01:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Really, the point is to avoid centralization: run your own Gitlab. Share it with others that don’t have the resources to run their own if you can. Move your projet away from Github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 13 hours ago | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah… | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | can’t say I really get what makes Gitlab any better than Github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | At least Microsoft hosts NSA/CIA grade tools for hacking Microsoft on Github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | (just do a search for “Shadowbrokers” on github) | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | So… you know… whatever. shrug | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 13 hours ago | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | can’t say I really get what makes Gitlab any better than Github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | its not fundamentally better, its not any different (at all) in theory, only in practice. in practice, gitlabs owners arent trying to destroy free software for TWENTY YEARS STRAIGHT. thats not a real difference? | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | whenever someone attacks microsoft, you invariably imply theyre not “really any different” than anybody else. then someone explains it, then you invariably pull the same shtick in any other anti-microsoft thread. its getting to seem a bit disingenuous, a bit like outright shilling for them. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | At least Microsoft hosts NSA/CIA grade tools | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | theyre also known to be in bed with the nsa. “at least?” | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | So… you know… whatever. shrug | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but youre pretending that nobody answers your question. when people have answered it again and again. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier | May 12 01:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The GitHubification of Free Software | Techrights | May 12 01:34 | |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier - about 12 hours ago | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | @Alien (A23P) well, it’s quite simple: | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | GitLab Community Edition is open source, with an MIT Expat license. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Github is closed source software. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | You can’t run you own instance of Github, you will give all your metadata to Microsoft, which gives them huge source of information (most used languages, libraries, most common bugs, project dependencies, etc…) and hence a huge power. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | You can’t review github’s code and tell what it does. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | That’s what makes gitlab way better than github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 11 hours ago | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | O.K. so people can fork Gitlab… | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | that doesn’t change the fact gitlab.com is just as centralized and Enterprise driven as Github. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I’m not pro Microsoft mind you, just generally speaking I hear Github picked on for just about no reason other than being now owned by Microsoft as if Microsoft is overly uniquely evil in Enterprise while IBM, Oracle, NASA, etc. are like some sort of good guys or at least “less bad”. | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Generally speaking, the arguments end up sounding much like “Fire the old boss and replace them with a new boss that’s just like the old boss!” to me | May 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Decent points I hear: | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Open Source the frameworks/code base | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Consider more federated architectures | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | other than that, i’m not sure what all the fuss is about and i kind of consider alluding to swapping out controller(s) of one bad architecture while not changing the bad architecture itself dangerously naive. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 10 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | “Fire the old boss and replace them with a new boss that’s just like the old boss!” | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | nobody has ever spent 20 years trying to destroy free software like microsoft has. nobody. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | honestly, your shtick is tired and dubious. if youre not getting paid for this, you need to start charging a fee for it. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | other than that, i’m not sure what all the fuss is about | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | you say this over and over, thread after thread. YOU KNOW BETTER. youre full of shit, al. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 10 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I’m not pro Microsoft | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | you might as well be, youre using their evangelist tactics, and cloaking the threat they pose by projecting their actions onto the alternatives. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | deny, deny, deny, when you know people here already have their number. if its not your job, why go to the trouble? there are conversations with actual microsoft employees (using real names and titles) on twitter that go EXACTLY like this one. youre emulating those conversations perfectly. youre a shill, al. whether youre a compensated shill or just a fanboy, youre doing it exactly by the book. why go to so much trouble to defend | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | microsoft? youve done it so many times. why bother? ITS NOT OUT OF CURIOUSITY. you dont ask the same question over and over, always getting the same answer-- just out of curiosity. so why do it, al? what do YOU get? | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier - about 10 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | @Alien (A23P) I’m not pro or anti-microsoft either (well, yes, I am against the business practices MS had over the years). But being able to fork / decentralize / share is all about it, all about free software. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I was using Mozilla (on the Amiga) when Firefox didn’t exists yet and the web was “optimized” for IE. Was Mozilla better than IE ? Maybe, maybe not, but it was free as in free speech. So is Gitlab, vs Github. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I also promote PeerTube over Youtube, etc… And that’s why FOSS projects should avoid Github centralization. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - about 10 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | it would be nice if peertube itself moved off github. do they have any plans yet? | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 10 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | My view is that GitHib is an incipient Monopoly, and will derive much of its power from the fact that it is a monopoly, and controls the market, so to speak. Once every project is expected to be on GitHub, what are project leaders going to do? Then once Microsoft starts exploiting their power here, what are project leaders supposed to do - when they are stuck. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | So, the very first thing we must accomplish is to break the monopoly. Then we can start to promote the best, most Free sites. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 9 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | @freemedia@framasphere.org I think you far undercount how much I’ve harked and do hark on the “Enterprise Empire” | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | toward such ends, I’m not sure why you act like any given one of it’s independent body parts is any more special than another. It’s all one body to me and I’m not sure how anyone can look at the overtly blatant market actions of today and not see that. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | 5 companies in the S&P 500 constitute over 40% of the market gains last year and now 5 are up something like 13% while the remaining 495 are collectively down. Meh, singular threat of Microsoft… | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | to remotely act like there’s not a gigantic singular united body Enterprise is… | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | well the understanding of basic math is just ridiculous (IMO) | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | so sure… hark on Microsoft like they’re something special I guess. have fun with that. | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Franck Routier - about 9 hours ago | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | @freemedia@framasphere.org PeerTube can alos be found on this Gitlab instance, but the main repository is still on Github as support is done here, and migrating the tickets seems to be complicated (vendor lock-in here !) | May 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Alien (A23P) - about 7 hours ago | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Make that an arguable 3rd point of mention | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | 3. Bringing notice to and breaking up monopoly | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | and | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | 4. There’s (arguably) more trouble migrating tickets over from Github then some other frameworks. (@Franck Routier are there any cases where you feel migrating tickets works in a smoother manner?) | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Will note that 3 and 4 arguably fall under “more federated architectures” BUT would repeat equally that simply moving from one control actor to the same control actor under a different name seems a bit of folly. | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Another issue worth considering, and that admittedly I have no good answer for at current, is when moving away from the strength in persistence and resilience to attack that large infrastructures often carry, how is that persistence and resilience maintained? | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Perhaps moving to content based allocations (ala IPFS) over server based allocations can help resolve some of this. But to date, I can’t say there’s anything I know of or have seen that seems to totally adequately replace the server/cloud model yet. | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | There’s a lot to the internet framework (and greater I.T. technologies) that begs to be reconsidered IMO. A lot of that probably stems from the fact that the internet itself issued out of the Enterprise mindset (DARPA) from it’s birth and the vast majority of it’s major developments post that have been similarly Enterprise birthed. The “Enterprise Empire” runs vast… | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 6 hours ago | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | simply moving from one control actor to the same control actor under a different name seems a bit of folly. | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | The System is not that tight. You are oversimplifying. | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17372170#e99493f041700138b10d7a163ef10931 | May 12 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." No, it cannot be openly developed on #proprietarysoftware platform of #microsoft https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2020/03/03/this-week-in-rust-328/ | May 12 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I’m suggesting people to consider using ocaml instead of Rust. It seems a reasonable substitute, and is much more Free. (Disclosure Statement: I have not programmed with either of these tools.) | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> this-week-in-rust.org | This Week in Rust 328 · This Week in Rust | May 12 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://ocaml.org/ | May 12 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ocaml.org | OCaml – OCaml | May 12 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 2 months ago | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | provided you use libraries, nearly all of ocaml is developed on github as well. | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | It seems a reasonable substitute | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | unlike ocaml, rust is used by the industry as a c replacement for applications that lots of ordinary users rely on. ocaml has existed for ages, but not been adopted for this purpose. there is clearly no interest in using it for the things rust is used for. the problem is github. the other problem is mozilla– neither of those problems can be mitigated with mozilla choosing a language that exists mostly on github. we would still be | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | saddled with mozilla and github, only now they wouldnt be using a programming language that suited their development needs. not to mention that-- have you tried porting something the size of mozillas codebase to an entirely different language? rust was designed for such a task-- ocaml was not. | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Github? Ocaml was developed in France, and I assume much of the work continues to be done there: | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | https://caml.inria.fr/download.en.html | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-caml.inria.fr | Download | May 12 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | ocaml has been used for large systems. Not operating systems, but large software systems. | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 2 months ago | May 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | ocaml has been used for large systems. Not operating systems, but large software systems. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | youre talking about ocaml for use in projects, and im talking about ocaml for use by mozilla. what im implying is that the first does not necessarily imply the second whatsoever. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Github? Ocaml was developed in France | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | i imagine that it predates github altogether. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | but regarding lisp, fdroid, node.js and ocaml-- none of these are truly independent of github if 4/5 of the libraries people will use are on github. i would go as far as to say that if you actually remove github from the equation (and that is the goal of switching to ocaml, is it not?) then ocaml is no longer a viable project-- with only a tiny percentage of its libraries. maybe im wrong, especially if ocaml has a native (“ | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | standard”) library, like pypy does, which is not on github. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | but if we think of ocaml as the actual software ocaml users will be using in development-- i would argue well over half of it is on github already. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | if you want a github-free fdroid (the fdroid app and website is not itself on github) then youre talking about fdroid with 20% of the apps. fewer, if you count the most popular ones. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | youre talking about an impossible (0% to <1% chance it will happen) codebase transition without it effectively accomplishing the goal of actually getting away from github. a list of languages that are truly independent of github would be useful-- but ocaml would not belong on it. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I don’t think any popular software development platform is not partially or largely hosted on github, at this point. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I don’t think any popular software development platform is not partially or largely hosted on github, at this point. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | thats the problem. however mozilla moving to ocaml would take no less than a decade, and it wouldnt (by this very fact!) accomplish anything at all. it would be years of translating a codebase for a lateral move. if youre going to make a web browser in ocaml, you might as well make a NEW browser. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | however, “partially” wasnt my point. most of what you would use to develop in ocaml is already on github. in fact from what i can tell, ocaml is perhaps “more of it is hosted on github” than the average, which i put around 4 out of 5 projects. for the move to be worth the years of effort, it should have less of it on github than average, not more. regardless, mozilla doesnt care about freedom so even if they did spend 10 | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | years, and even if ocaml was ideal to move to, mozilla would still move more and more towards being a worthless, drm-infested codebase that cant be (wont be) salvaged. you could accomplish just as much if you simply ignore them and try to find a web browser you can use. or an alternative to the web-- no joke. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Yes, a new browser is a good idea. I wish I was a super-programmer, and I would do it! | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I wish I was a super-programmer, and I would do it! | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | this is the next fallacy im going to address in the book. its simply a myth. i was already planning it. youre far from the only person suffering from it. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Well, I do know my limitations. Even a website can be tough. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) I write in C for over 20 years, as a professional programmer. I don’t understand it when people say C or C++ is ‘dangerous’. I started to learn C when I was 12, in 80s, having only compiler and reference in a text file. I wasn’t a genius and I had no problems with programming in C. when adult people say they cannot cope with C/C++ memory management this makes me like ‘wow! what the hell they | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | talk about? even kids can do it’. if people cannot cope with memory management I doubt they can approach to such a serious thing as browser. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | ^Many people do not report the same experience. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug - 2 months ago | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz well, should they write serious software then? this is the question. browser is not a helloworld application for beginners. and I’m surprised when developers of browser cannot fix memory leak problems. this is suspicious. | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | as for me, I don’t use FF anymore. I use palemoon, chromium, netsurf, falkon whatever written in C/C++, where programmers don’t complain they cannot manage memory :) | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | As a programmer (though not now working professionally), I very much prefer to have memory management done for me. I’ve got more important things to think about. | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz if a ‘programmer’ does not understand how system works it’s weird. and sure any ‘automation’ in software is waste of resources and something contrary to optimization. the modern software is stupid and that’s why it’s so fat and slow. no professionals - no normal software. | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science) | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Iron Bug - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | @tomgrz yes, the most stupid and resources wasting decision ever. | May 12 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Garbage collection (computer science) - Wikipedia | May 12 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Works for me! | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 months ago | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | But then I’m a LISPer from way back… | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17016249#fd45d1d01d7801386b7d7a163ef10931 | May 12 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Starting a #GNU Replacement for #GitHub, Possibly Based on #GitLab http://techrights.org/2020/01/20/gnu-replacement-for-github/ #deleteGithub | May 12 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure Gitlab is a good starting point. Maybe the interface. The backbone (in my design) should be distributed, and the replication carried-out at an object-level and with transactional integrity. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for posting this! :-) | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Some people are working on a federated solution: | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://notabug.org/peers/forgefed | May 12 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Starting a GNU Replacement for GitHub, Possibly Based on GitLab | Techrights | May 12 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-notabug.org | peers/forgefed: Main repository containing the forgefed spec and website. - NotABug.org: Free code hosting | May 12 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Certainly a good idea. Just a quick look though and I’m not completely satisfied. First, the license, and second, I don’t see how it works in a distributed fashion. Maybe I’m missing that… | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | license is gpl-compatible, its the same one fig uses. you can fork it into a gpl project. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | ForgeFed is an upcoming federation protocol extending the W3C’s ActivityPub protocol | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | i actually thought of recommending one of these protocols to you: | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | ActivityPub is an open, decentralized social networking protocol based on Pump.io’s ActivityPump protocol. It provides a client/server API for creating, updating and deleting content, as well as a federated server-to-server API for delivering notifications and content. More at “Wikipedia” | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | but this means the backend relies on browsers that support the protocol, while your solution would probalby not rely on the browser. so i didnt recommend it. but i did consider doing so, because its really not the worst idea. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | actually if theres a way to do the backend with activitypub separately from the browser, you would probably have no reason not to use this protocol. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | in fact, a “community” can actually make a project less free– either by selling out, like debian did, or the first stage, which is to start thought-policing everyone in your community: | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://feneas.git.feneas.org/association/code_of_conduct.html | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | I’m big on transactional mechanisms. I came up though corporate IT… | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-feneas.git.feneas.org | Code of Conduct | May 12 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | in fact, a “community” can actually make a project less free | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | I’m not a big fan of “individual” projects, unless they attract a following of course. “Scratching an itch” is fine, and donating it to the public space is generous, but really big things, really important things are the result of teamwork. Maybe this thinking is again from by big-business past… | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | really important things are the result of teamwork. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | congratulations, you just threw away almost all software. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | really big things, really important things are the result of teamwork. | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | here you go: | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/en enjoy. (its the biggest. youre gonna love it.) | May 12 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | Red Hat - We make open source technologies for the enterprise | May 12 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | a LOT of the best software ive ever used, was NOT the result of “teamwork.” | May 12 01:40 |
| schestowitz | it was the result of just one person taking a bunch of existing things and sticking them together into something new. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | most teams end up forming around small projects as well, many of todays big projects started as one-person projects, and remained so for a long time. they would not exist if everyone had your attitude. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | big-business past… | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | big business says this shit a lot. that lets people disregard people who invent and create, and it heavily favours companies that co-opt and exploit. the past 10 years of destruction were caused by the philosophy youre promoting (alright in smaller doses) completely taking over and crushing free software. i wont ever be a fan. in fact its pretty tragic that you feel this way, because i had you completely and entirely wrong up to | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | this point, i guess. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | incidentally, when i said: | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | in fact, a “community” can actually make a project less free" | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | i didnt mean that community is a bad thing. i mean the idea that it is a prerequisite is a bad assumption. it very frequently isnt a prerequisite. ive watched open source invent all kinds of bullshit prerequisites that dont actually exist. and those are written about here: http://techrights.org/2019/06/09/infiltrating-other-projects/ | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | “Open Source kind of hates on lone developers.” | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | “Fortunately, Open Source brings all this overhead to a project in a way that makes it easier to steer or influence (or purchase) the direction of a project.” | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | “And since for 20 years, companies like Microsoft have sought to buy, charge royalties for, influence or eliminate the work done by competitors, Open Source gives us (and even fights for) the foot in the door that we need to do so.” | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | you know what a lone developer is? | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | a lone developer is the antithesis of the false user/developer dichotomy. | May 12 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Chapter 8: A Foot in the Door — How to Train Sympathetic Developers and Infiltrate Other Projects | Techrights | May 12 01:41 | |
| schestowitz | if stallman is cancelled, its no longer possible for him to create software? (put aside the fact that he doesnt code anymore.) | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | im sorry, your fallacy would destroy everything in its path. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | i guess there isnt much else to say. good luck to you, open source guy. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I see a work of free software as a form of communication, a work of and for a kind of culture, and a community. It shouldn’t be an isolated statement, though I suppose it can be. We need to broaden the community, and enrich our common culture. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I see a work of free software as a form of communication, a work of and for a kind of culture, and a community. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | we both do. and we both want to broaden the community. id mostly rather keep the definition of software and community separate, since everybody that has tried to combine them has produced a situation with less freedom and more corporate control. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | as with init and dns resolution, those are two things that dont need to be completely entangled-- even if one calls the other. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | in your defense, i would point out that ive argued that its possible to make a thing TOO modular. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Well you are quite right that init and routing do not need to be connected. But I stick to my guns that free software is not a “thing” without people that are actually empowered by it. Kind of a “if a tree falls in the woods…” debate. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@framasphere.org - 4 months ago | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Kind of a “if a tree falls in the woods…” debate. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | why didnt you say so? | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | if a tree falls in the woods, and the the open source initiative waited until you were there to cut it down, is it a better idea to just stand there or get out of the way of the tree? | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | my argument is that we should avoid the tree, because we have knowledge of what it will probably do if we dont. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | but youre very firm in where you stand, and i respect that. | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17914549#9c567d7068da01384e3e7a163ef10931 | May 12 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Well, #ocaml needs to #deletegithub and associating #riscv with monopolistic #microsoft would only harm it https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/04/24/ocaml-risc-v-port-is-now-upstream/ | May 12 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | "ocaml is a very interesting language, and in many ways competitive with haskell or even Rust. But it loses some of its advantage if it gets embraced in Microsoft’s hug." | May 12 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Fig says it was... | May 12 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rwmj.wordpress.com | OCaml RISC-V port is now upstream! | Richard WM Jones | May 12 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > So what is the story with this? | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | You article has not been directly opened ~6000 times. | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | That does not include RSS feeds, social control media, front page views etc. | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | So well done. | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Some high-profile FS devs link to it. | May 12 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9ux7Tyct7rV7ETkF3g | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | "Trump will ruin" | May 12 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uwvEQpjHmWwdFZY48 | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | @ButterflyOfFire | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | RMS l'avait bien prédit! 😒 Si seulement la communauté du Libre pouvait se consacrer d'avantage au #Kernel #Hurd. | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Le Navire coule et nous on peint la figure de proue! | May 12 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uwnHjUFabr9ijaZ6G | May 12 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Still no secret chats on Telegram Desktop? | May 12 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Shame on them... That has been a top request from users for years. | May 12 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/Telegram/comments/9beku1/telegram_desktop_secret_chat/ | May 12 01:54 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Telegram Desktop Secret chat? : Telegram | May 12 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uwOcOqR2AoMvXiv0C | May 12 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9uwOcOqR2AoMvXiv0C ) | May 12 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | "😒 WTF" | May 12 01:55 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw54PsOnGj79Tix6G | May 12 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw54PsOnGj79Tix6G ) | May 12 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | "sounds interesting, but why in 2020 is there a website without TLS?" | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Old CentOS | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw4R4m1JtPgPOyv2W | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | "was linked" is passive construction | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | can we do better than that? | May 12 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:56 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw3ft8skN7eizArRY | May 12 01:57 |
| schestowitz | "we need more media access to hospitals but obv that isn't all." | May 12 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw25nbzjQalC21EQa | May 12 01:57 |
| schestowitz | " Does this glue ADHERE to the UNIX philosophy??" | May 12 01:57 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 12 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uw25ANnaH3zWi4qO0 | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | (boost) | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | May 12 01:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:58 | |
| schestowitz | How to Set Your #Social_Media to Control Who Sees What | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Pick who sees your #tweets, #Facebook #posts, and #Instagram #stories—and choose what you want to see, too. | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz 🔗 https://pleroma.site/objects/fdda9766-d980-4da7-a2f6-bdb39a796b76 | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | - | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | ● NEWS ● #wired #Surveillance ☞ How to Set Your #SocialMedia to Control Who Sees What https://www.wired.com/story/lock-down-social-media-privacy-security-facebook-twitter/ | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | https://mstdn.jp/media/uSMwuqjxDhdXnSqp5bM | May 12 01:58 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 12 01:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wired.com | How to Set Your Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to Control Who Sees What | WIRED | May 12 01:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9uvzFOl2h4Ft8v8Wau\ | May 12 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 400 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9uvzFOl2h4Ft8v8Wau\ ) | May 12 01:58 | |
| schestowitz | " If I want to run Linux I just install it in a native form." | May 12 01:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Beltrandroid/status/1260018832741031938 | May 12 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Beltrandroid: "Microsoft dependency is an existential crisis for Free Software." GitHubification https://t.co/UntXSi6Hz9 | May 12 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The GitHubification of Free Software | Techrights | May 12 05:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/1259988275093217282 | May 12 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Brainiarc7: So much winning! America first! https://t.co/tWTu70cpkn | May 12 05:39 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Almost 2,000 #covid19 deaths out of today's ~3,200 are in America again | May 12 05:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/1259988174169935873 | May 12 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Brainiarc7: @schestowitz So much winning, eh? | May 12 05:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1259963012393336836 | May 12 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: If they put only half the effort into this as Red Hat put into the online edition of Red Hat Summit and IBM put int… https://t.co/khYT32V3fZ | May 12 05:41 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: If they put only half the effort into this as Red Hat put into the online edition of Red Hat Summit and IBM put int… https://t.co/khYT32V3fZ | May 12 05:41 | |
| schestowitz | "If they put only half the effort into this as Red Hat put into the online edition of Red Hat Summit and IBM put into Think, this will be a great conference, and will be sure to bring new people to next year's in-person AnsibleFest if we're able to have in-person events next year." | May 12 05:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1259964077796810752] | May 12 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux I bet they’ll do at least as well. Think2020 was a major snooze. Saw no buzz about it at all. But eve… https://t.co/ISN8eM4zZv | May 12 05:42 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux I bet they’ll do at least as well. Think2020 was a major snooze. Saw no buzz about it at all. But eve… https://t.co/ISN8eM4zZv | May 12 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | I bet they’ll do at least as well. Think2020 was a major snooze. Saw no buzz about it at all. But everyone’s curious what IBM’s going to do with Red Hat, whether they’ll screw it up. | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | I think IBM mostly bought intel on Red Hat’s clients, to upsell them on yet more IBM consulting. | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1259964838190735360 | May 12 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @jhamby What did you think of the online Red Hat Summit, other than the fact there were fewer product announcements… https://t.co/hsu09s7VxX | May 12 05:42 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @jhamby What did you think of the online Red Hat Summit, other than the fact there were fewer product announcements… https://t.co/hsu09s7VxX | May 12 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | "What did you think of the online Red Hat Summit, other than the fact there were fewer product announcements than usual, with was understandable considering the circumstances." | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1259965748555939843\ | May 12 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux There are probably worse (more evil) companies to have bought Red Hat than IBM. IBM is pretty evil on… https://t.co/sFKG2THawF | May 12 05:42 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux There are probably worse (more evil) companies to have bought Red Hat than IBM. IBM is pretty evil on… https://t.co/sFKG2THawF | May 12 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | "There are probably worse (more evil) companies to have bought Red Hat than IBM. IBM is pretty evil on the patent front (at least they warn you at the front of all their tech manuals that what they’re about to describe is probably covered by patents). And they did collab w/ Nazis." | May 12 05:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1259965834371272705 | May 12 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux But at least IBM didn’t get outbid by Oracle, or Google, or Amazon, or Microsoft. | May 12 05:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1259966704781852677 | May 12 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @jhamby I think big changes are already happening internally at IBM. It's fairly obvious as a journalist that deali… https://t.co/D6VTuSt4aG | May 12 05:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @jhamby I think big changes are already happening internally at IBM. It's fairly obvious as a journalist that deali… https://t.co/D6VTuSt4aG | May 12 05:43 | |
| schestowitz | "I think big changes are already happening internally at IBM. It's fairly obvious as a journalist that dealing with them today is much, much different than even a year ago. I think we're going to see a lot of changes at Big Blue under the leadership of Krishna/Whitehurst." | May 12 05:43 |
| schestowitz | Wait and see if their patent policy changes too | May 12 05:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1259955291992371201 | May 12 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: No matter what happens to Linus Torvalds, the spirit of free software will go on. https://t.co/QIYgRlrbfd | May 12 05:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Techrights finds it growingly worrying and outright worrisome that Torvalds is now “buddies” with serial GPL violat… https://t.co/og2zNQYoc8 | May 12 05:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ejoftheweb/status/1259949779926351881 | May 12 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ejoftheweb: @schestowitz I used to run it. I needed OpenOffice. I did emerge open-office. 2 days later it was still compiling. I switched to Debian. | May 12 05:45 | |
| schestowitz | "I used to run it. I needed OpenOffice. I did emerge open-office. 2 days later it was still compiling. I switched to Debian." | May 12 05:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TvPrivacy/status/1259945939978067972 | May 12 05:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TvPrivacy: @schestowitz "If used correctly" = If completely dependent on this device it can reduce stress... Surveillance bree… https://t.co/pYnTSN1YQW | May 12 05:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TvPrivacy: @schestowitz "If used correctly" = If completely dependent on this device it can reduce stress... Surveillance bree… https://t.co/pYnTSN1YQW | May 12 05:46 | |
| schestowitz | ""If used correctly" = If completely dependent on this device it can reduce stress... Surveillance breeds distrust betweens the watchers and the watched. This is what we are witnessing as a society: a breakdown in trust." | May 12 05:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IDennton/status/1259945191584280577 | May 12 05:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IDennton: @schestowitz Does every European country include COVID deaths that happen outside of a hospital.....nope | May 12 05:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Heals9000/status/1259921061325365255 | May 12 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Heals9000: @schestowitz @wikileaks Ha! Yes! Fat Tony took care of it! He’s swimmin with the fishes! | May 12 05:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fullbrain_org/status/1259901598849011712 | May 12 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fullbrain_org: @schestowitz Hey @schestowitz! We built @fullbrain_org to help students access quality material online. Our users… https://t.co/OHg7gzsux0 | May 12 05:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fullbrain_org: @schestowitz Hey @schestowitz! We built @fullbrain_org to help students access quality material online. Our users… https://t.co/OHg7gzsux0 | May 12 05:47 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | Hey @schestowitz | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | ! | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | We built @fullbrain_org | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | to help students access quality material online. Our users share and rate the best sources online. We are focused on #MachineLearning, #AI, and #DataScience. | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | We'd love to hear your feedback. Check it out here: | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | >>> This has been building for four decades in the US. The team behind | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> Reagan slashed funding education and has been sawing at what is left | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> non-stop ever since. The last few decades they've taken it further and | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> have cultivated an anti-knowledge and anti-science attitude among their | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> minions. Yes, they are easy to manipulate that way but it comes at the | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> expense of destroying the country's viability. They're not in it for | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >>> the long game however. | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >> Even the Soviet Union was not >this< self-harming. | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | > Some suspect that >is< their goal and has been since the 1950s or 1960s. | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, those in the GOP are selected for being obedient ideologues. | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | > Any one of them not toeing the line is torn up and thrown away. The | May 12 06:50 |
| schestowitz | > last ones who have even tried were removed years ago now. That's | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > reprehensible but not even the worst. What is worse is that none of | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > them except the oldest have even a basic knowledge about how the | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > government is supposed to operate and what the rules, procedures, and | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > responsibilities are. The oldest among them know of the ignorance and | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > exploit it. It's not anything more than mob rule for the most part in a | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > large and increasing portion of the administration. | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | I am glad you left that place. Your parents (whose name I saw in that old newspaper article) I hope are still alive and well... the US does not value public health and older people. Did it ever? It's a terrible place to get old in... | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | My grandpa's brother is about 95 and still lives in Florida... but last week I heard that his health is deteriorating. I have loads of relatives there. But have not visited in ages for personal reasons, mostly political... | May 12 06:51 |
| schestowitz | >> If they don't know Wordpress, then they don't know Wordpress... and you | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> end up spending all the time just teaching the whole thing. | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe research into making a static mirror of TR? | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> Or automating IRC posts? | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | >> What problems are we looking to solve? | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | > I couldn't say off hand without first seeing a CV in plain text or TeX. | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | His technical skills seem to be very basic. I'll see if we can get him to write articles... | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | ...though we first need to assess the quality of the writing... because setting up a lesser privileged account which limits damage potential. (to the site) | May 12 06:53 |
| schestowitz | > TR was under load from gzip and the back end was unavailable for a few | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > minutes during that time. One of my scripts is too sensitive about that: | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > techrights.org error [ 500 ] 2020-05-12 03:44 UTC | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > gzip is already niced. Should it be niced more? | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | One option is, try to nice it more (if possible, iirc it's maxed out already). Another is, and I once wrote a script for it (another context... an old machine of mine had overheating issues which forced powerdown), suspend gzip every 10 seconds or so, then resume, then suspend again.... this way httpd can at least get more CPU and I/O share in between. | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | worth trying? If it doesn't work as expected, worse case scenario is, compression doesn't complete and we need to watch disk space. | May 12 06:56 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.michiganradio.org/post/commentary-joe-schwarz-former-republican-now-democrat | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.toledoblade.com/opinion/columnists/2019/10/26/bill-milliken-missed-not-only-in-michigan-but-in-us-politics/stories/20191026002 | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michiganradio.org | Commentary: Joe Schwarz, former Republican now Democrat? | Michigan Radio | May 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz | > McCain lost all respect and dignity when he failed to switch parties | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > after the GOP put him in his place. The "Democrats" aren't any good on | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > an absolute scale though. | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> I am glad you left that place. Your parents (whose name I saw in that | May 12 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.toledoblade.com | Milliken missed not only in Michigan, but in U.S. politics | Toledo Blade | May 12 07:26 | |
| schestowitz | >> old newspaper article) I hope are still alive and well... the US does | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> not value public health and older people. Did it ever? It's a terrible | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> place to get old in... | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > Up until the early 1970s, but medicine had not quite become an industry yet. | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully we still have something here >called< "NHS"... | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> My grandpa's brother is about 95 and still lives in Florida... but last | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> week I heard that his health is deteriorating. I have loads of relatives | May 12 07:26 |
| schestowitz | >> there. But have not visited in ages for personal reasons, mostly | May 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz | >> political... | May 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > It doesn't take more than a few weeks of inactivity to tip into physical | May 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz | > decline. At 95 it can go quickly. | May 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz | Did you notice Torvalds' legs? Rianne used to work with elderly people, so she had a thing or two to say about that... | May 12 07:27 |
| schestowitz | >>>> I am glad you left that place. Your parents (whose name I saw in that | May 12 08:31 |
| schestowitz | >>>> old newspaper article) I hope are still alive and well... the US does | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> not value public health and older people. Did it ever? It's a terrible | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> place to get old in... | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>> Up until the early 1970s, but medicine had not quite become an industry yet. | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >> Thankfully we still have something here >called< "NHS"... | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > It's mostly just dried husk of what it was even as recently as 2012. | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> My grandpa's brother is about 95 and still lives in Florida... but last | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> week I heard that his health is deteriorating. I have loads of relatives | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> there. But have not visited in ages for personal reasons, mostly | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>>> political... | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>> It doesn't take more than a few weeks of inactivity to tip into physical | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >>> decline. At 95 it can go quickly. | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >> Did you notice Torvalds' legs? Rianne used to work with elderly people, | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | >> so she had a thing or two to say about that... | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Only that they are thin like arms. I didn't seem him try to stand up. | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Failure to be able to have muscle to get out of a chair is a one of the | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > last warnings before final exit. If he does not take his code base and | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > his trademarks and ditch the LF, they'll keep him around as a mascot for | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > only a few more years until he's physically done for while the code base | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > is proprietarized and the GPL within neutralized and/or flat out ignored. | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the plan us to keep Linux around long enough until systemd 'matures' into a kernel with 'borrowed' code... hosted by Microsoft and controlled by Red Hat while the whole Debian branch (Ubuntu included) nods approvingly out of desperation... | May 12 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > As of UTC 07:10 one of the pair is in the nest preening: | May 12 08:37 |
| schestowitz | > | May 12 08:37 |
| schestowitz | > https://luontolive.wwf.fi/en/osprey/ | May 12 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-luontolive.wwf.fi | WWF Wildlive - Osprey | May 12 08:37 | |
| schestowitz | Our favourite goose is still incubating her eggs. We call her "miss white" because of her distinguishable white feature near the head's crown. Mr. White is "Hercules. He guards her and knows us. We actually made names for the families they have and their territory. You learn who they are often a while... | May 12 08:37 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes we read about those birds, instead of feeding them too much... | May 12 08:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18089102#0a2767a07602013886cd38607759d42b | May 12 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@darsb1@pluspora.com: Tweet of the Press Conference | May 12 08:41 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by darsb1@pluspora.com: https://pluspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_350f03e602c6646ed8a9.jpg | May 12 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | May 12 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | 1) Trump vaguely accuses somebody of "a crime" cause he's upset | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | 2) MAGA fanbase "find" (invent, imagine, whatever) a crime | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | 3) Trump accuse somebody of this fantasy crime, saying "everybody knows" 4) Barr says there's "evidences", the MAGA fanbase say there's "official investigations" | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | 5) now Trump trust in his own lie, cause his "Trump bubble" confirms he's right | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | 6) everybody discuss about Trump's lie but nobody tell him he's a liar | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | AAs long nobody tells him "as long you can't show checked evidences and open sources of your allegations, it's just fantasy and we won't report it", he will continue and your politic will be sucked deep and deeper in a swamp of lies | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | " | May 12 08:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17914549#51eea4d0761701384e247a163ef10931 | May 12 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Well, #ocaml needs to #deletegithub and associating #riscv with monopolistic #microsoft would only harm it https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/04/24/ocaml-risc-v-port-is-now-upstream/ | May 12 08:42 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rwmj.wordpress.com | OCaml RISC-V port is now upstream! | Richard WM Jones | May 12 08:42 | |
| schestowitz | "" | May 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "But we are finding that this is true almost without exception. Including gcc!" | May 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | well, if you use d | May 12 08:42 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/hjvbarneveld/status/1260071456878272516 | May 12 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hjvbarneveld: @andysmith113as @austere1717 Hey, didn't Bill Gates own the top floors, The Four Seasons of Mandalay Bay (yes that… https://t.co/lXj8t8VKxy | May 12 09:07 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hjvbarneveld: @andysmith113as @austere1717 Hey, didn't Bill Gates own the top floors, The Four Seasons of Mandalay Bay (yes that… https://t.co/lXj8t8VKxy | May 12 09:07 | |
| acer-box | Hey, didn't Bill Gates own the top floors, The Four Seasons of Mandalay Bay (yes that one), with Saudi Prince AlWaleed? Nothing to see here, folks. | May 12 09:07 |
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | May 12 09:18 | |
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| schestowitz | x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3542775/microsoft-to-start-changing-chromes-search-engine-to-bing-for-opt-in-customers.html | May 12 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | Microsoft to start changing Chrome's search engine to Bing for opt-in customers | Computerworld | May 12 12:16 | |
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| MinceR | Bìng® -- The Search Engine So Shitty We Had To Develop Malware To Trick People Into Using It!™ | May 12 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Hi. I left because they forced me to leave by telling me that they’re NOT interested in Linux news anymore, despite the fact that Linux news had the most reads. Now look who writes Linux news in my place... Maybe if everyone would stop promoting them they will give up... | May 12 17:53 |
| schestowitz | 9:18 AM | May 12 17:53 |
| schestowitz | can you pass us correspondence, whether in English or not? | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | 10:51 AM | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | also: did they pressure you to cover particular topics like WSL? | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | 11:01 AM | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | working on an article about this.. | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I’m sorry, but I no longer have the correspondence and I really don’t want this to go public... what’s done is done. | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | 2:40 PM | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | They didn’t pressure me to write WSL topics... | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | xxxxxx | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Nothing Microsoft related | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | 2:42 PM | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | For me this chapter in my life is closed. I don’t want any public exposure about this, especially that they will get more free promotion, even if it’s a negative one. | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | 𝓜xxxxxxxxxxx | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I want to continue to promote Linux with xxxxxxx | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Slightly smiling face | May 12 17:54 |
| schestowitz | and I work for free. | May 12 17:54 |
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