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| psydruid | but in this respect it looks like the distributions employing software developers working on operating systems and application frameworks side with the OEMs or are themselves owned by OEMs | Aug 12 00:00 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the OEMs are where the money is | Aug 12 00:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | server side also | Aug 12 00:03 |
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| psydruid | someone wrote somewhere that sales may be 50% lower on the client side without Windows | Aug 12 00:22 |
| psydruid | server side it will be less of an issue as more capacity is naturally going to be needed over time | Aug 12 00:23 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz | some idiotic bored lawyer sent me a letter | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | regarding some photo: | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | the post http://techrights.org/2021/12/13/credit-to-norway/ contains memes from a meme site, https://imgflip.com | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | That's where I got it from. | Aug 12 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Only Norway Followed the Advice of EPO Workers and Consulted Relevant Ministries About Unlawful EPO Policies | Techrights | Aug 12 00:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imgflip - Create and Share Awesome Images | Aug 12 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | Which specific image are you talking about? | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | I'll remove it as soon as you identify which one. | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 12 00:46 |
| schestowitz | re: | Aug 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Cloudflare is slowing down Wordpress websites | Aug 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they need CloudFlare for this. It's proprietary, it increases risk of downtime, and it can slow things down, add complexity etc. Why use it in the first place? DDOS? | Aug 12 01:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it is hardly possible anymore to find michael west article as almost all new posts there now are just AAP reprinted :/ | Aug 12 02:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's the point? If I wanted AAP, I'd subscribe to AAP. | Aug 12 02:02 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Aug 12 07:34 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Aug 12 07:34 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 | Aug 12 07:34 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | maybe some connections to the server dropped at your end | Aug 12 08:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | brief network issue | Aug 12 08:15 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | possible what time did it occur? | Aug 12 08:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | TR was unavailable from here 619, 620, 634, and 635 | Aug 12 08:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, I got stuck with ipfs cron job | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | what worked on debian does not seem to work for me on alpine | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you can help | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the issue is, a job that works OK when run from the cli would not work as a cron job | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems like the ipfs bits don't run | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I cannot find a way/place to see what output it gets when run as cron | Aug 12 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec2 | which account on tr-new? | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it's hard to rebug | Aug 12 08:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | *debug | Aug 12 08:40 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ok checking | Aug 12 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | i spent 1-2 hours in vain | Aug 12 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that's why it would yield empty output, unless run manually (weird as on the pi I had no such issues) | Aug 12 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there are two different sets of scripts, not in sync, in /home/xxxx and | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | /home/xxxx/bin | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | cron points to the one in the home directory not in bin | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | changing that | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | setting it to run at 08:09 for a test | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok, the longer one is saved as a backup | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | running at 08:10 now | Aug 12 09:12 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there was no $PATH set | Aug 12 09:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the one in homedir is a reduced version | Aug 12 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and should be the one run | Aug 12 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it seems to reach the end, entering the second script (called from the first) | Aug 12 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the interactive ipfs add() command either does not run at al or fails at some level | Aug 12 09:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik 'ipfs' is already in PATH | Aug 12 09:13 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | scp is not pointing to a key of any kind | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in bin/complete-index-split.sh | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scp is using id_ed25519 which is missing a passphrase, is not locked down on | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the server end, and allows full shell access :( | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scp should *not* be used in a script | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it should be refitted for sftp | Aug 12 09:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's easy | Aug 12 09:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the upload actually works OK | Aug 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's the process of adding ipfs sttuff to the files that fails | Aug 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | seemingly giving blank output from ipfs | Aug 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the use of scp and this whole part is temporary hack as eventually, after migration, those files will move locally | Aug 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but yes, bad practice | Aug 12 09:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the script never worked fully (yet), unless run manually | Aug 12 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the problem is with "ipfs add" in bin/complete-index-split.sh | Aug 12 09:23 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | I can look more later but the ipfs add seems to be the problem with the | Aug 12 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | split.sh script | Aug 12 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I can look more later but the ipfs add seems to be the problem with the | Aug 12 09:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | split.sh script | Aug 12 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs add is run twice in the wrapped script, update | Aug 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | *wrapper | Aug 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's hard to tell what goes on | Aug 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the log files in alpine don't tell me | Aug 12 09:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR | (going to be away to cycle in a bit; just checked the nightly pi backups, backups older than 2 days get purges now, it helps secure our "working files") | Aug 12 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Record Lows for Number of Brits Who Decide to Take COVID-19 Vaccines https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/12/covid-19-low-end-of-the-market/ | Aug 12 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Record Lows for Number of Brits Who Decide to Take COVID-19 Vaccines | Aug 12 11:31 | |
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| Techrights-sec2 | back | Aug 12 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 2>&1 can redirect from stderr to stdout : | Aug 12 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Aug 12 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sh: error setting limit: Invalid argument | Aug 12 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Error: open /home/xxxx/tr_text_version/irc-log-241120.txt: too many open files | Aug 12 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Aug 12 13:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | aha, that's what I suspected was happening and tried making a workaround for | Aug 12 13:36 |
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| schestowitz-TR | seems like per issue | Aug 12 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | only root can change that | Aug 12 14:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am trying to no avil to find where to make such changes permanent | Aug 12 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think it can be set per account. | Aug 12 14:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There should be a limits.conf or something similiar but the question is how | Aug 12 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Alpine handles the location of those settings. | Aug 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I have been find / | grep exactly that | Aug 12 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but no idea how alpine handles this | Aug 12 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but at least I know for sure this is the issue | Aug 12 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | when i run the comments manually i'm in a context where the limits are raised already | Aug 12 14:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | What should the limit be, I am guessing it would go in | Aug 12 14:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | /etc/sysctl.d/.....limits.conf | Aug 12 14:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Aug 12 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but I don't know how large it should be | Aug 12 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so it sounds like a very badly designed program if it consumes resources | Aug 12 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | indefinitely; system resources /are/ finite even if they are generous | Aug 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can see that now, have you changed that yet? | Aug 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it keeps growing, I raised from 1k to 2k, 4k, latest was just 20k to be 'safe' | Aug 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can be made more efficient, but I can't be bothered tbh | Aug 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I nearly gave up on it last year | Aug 12 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see you're just tested it with cron | Aug 12 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, the "master" copy of these scripts is on the pi and git | Aug 12 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | so feel free to 'massage' until they 'work' | Aug 12 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ipfs refresh cycle is just a few minutes once a day anyway | Aug 12 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the debian.community site shows that planning for disaster is a case of "it matters when it's too late" | Aug 12 14:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs got 2 milestones this past week | Aug 12 14:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can I try rebooting that container? | Aug 12 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | $ ulimit -Sn; ulimit -Hn | Aug 12 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 2048 | Aug 12 14:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 2048 | Aug 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I don't think we have public-sacing stuff on it yet | Aug 12 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | what we have is in /home | Aug 12 14:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Aug 12 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I would hope not, it's way too soon for putting it into production | Aug 12 14:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok that did not work, I am not sure where the file limits are set in Alpine | Aug 12 14:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the way I did it before, I ran the comment as root before going to the ipfs account | Aug 12 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | we prob ccheck the same few pages | Aug 12 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes root is a different class in regards to system resource limits | Aug 12 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's ok to do once, for debugging, but should not be considered even a | Aug 12 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | work-around | Aug 12 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | still looking for info about Alpine specifically and how to raise the limits | Aug 12 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | probably | Aug 12 14:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tried another file location for those settings, it did not change anything | Aug 12 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | either | Aug 12 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | still looking | Aug 12 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | kaniini is how I got the debian n_files limit set right | Aug 12 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | after someone in irc asked how to solved thgius | Aug 12 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then I too had that issue | Aug 12 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | used the same command | Aug 12 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | kaniini used to be a DD | Aug 12 14:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | back when DD was actually a high achievment and meaningful | Aug 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | When the D was literal | Aug 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | You needed to be able to develop | Aug 12 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just gender-balance for optics | Aug 12 15:03 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | or have blue hair | Aug 12 15:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | anyway Debian and derivatives handle ulimits quite differently than Alpine | Aug 12 15:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've tried three ways to do the settings and none took | Aug 12 15:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so I have the location and/or syntax incorrect | Aug 12 15:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There is little info on the net about Alpine :/ | Aug 12 15:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | back | Aug 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't imagine it would be so complictaed for us | Aug 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | had I knows, I'd just run it manually every night | Aug 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the pi became weird a lot of the automation did not work | Aug 12 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but assuming ipfs runs for years to come it's worth automating addition | Aug 12 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not complicated, just obscure | Aug 12 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes the automation will be worth it | Aug 12 16:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | can you check the sed modifications? they should run much faster than | Aug 12 16:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the old arrangement | Aug 12 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the new one, if pushed to git, would need to be a separate file as it gutted out quite a few lines | Aug 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that remain on the pi | Aug 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we'd have two very separate things | Aug 12 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | previously I removed some gemini and systemd stuff, then added the scp at the end | Aug 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that was it | Aug 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point you pushed amendments to git (it's still there for that file) | Aug 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that caused it not to work correctly | Aug 12 16:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | that was about a year ago | Aug 12 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | all the changes are still isolated on tr-new until tested | Aug 12 16:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scp needs to be phased out, it has been deprecated for a few years now | Aug 12 16:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't oppose splitting those codebases into two given that the two ends not have different functions | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | notably, old is a fallback that does not update anything | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | at a later point I can make it PIN all the newers objects | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've still not automated the ipfs stuff in gemini | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's done manually, periodically | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but right now the HTTP pages for IPFS are all blank | Aug 12 16:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the priority is to automate this and then build further on top of that | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, splitting those pages to years to make them smaller | Aug 12 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | lunkuke sick again | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have no solid scientific data on it (btw, I blogged today on covid) | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it seems to me that covid infectionbs lower activity of the immune system overall | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and thus people who start getting infected are in for a vicious cycle | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | of long illnesses and a lot of downtime | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | re ipfs, no hurry tbh, it's not a critical service | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I am VERY happy that it's back in a good state and never times out, sometimes | Aug 12 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | returns objects very fast | Aug 12 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | lunduke is... strange | Aug 12 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | rerunning things from ages ago... for subs-only | Aug 12 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | stuff that isn't even relevant or correct anymore | Aug 12 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | living off his past "glory" | Aug 12 16:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Aug 12 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as mentioned he went around the bend a while back, especially right before | Aug 12 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | he got SARS-CoV-2 | Aug 12 17:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | he's been really extra weird and extra irrelevant since then | Aug 12 17:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | speaking of weird, I got another mother lode on graveley | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | trickling that out slowly helps assured there's a dark cloud over github | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | tomorrow I can finish the other series | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and next month epo+montenegro | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | news is very slow | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | very very very slow | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | one has to be creative to keep TR and TM "engaging" | Aug 12 17:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, it has been winding down further and much of the text posted in its place | Aug 12 17:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is marketing and press-release content | Aug 12 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | exactly | Aug 12 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night I assume you saw what I had typed on michale west | Aug 12 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | at first I thought, wow! he sure became active | Aug 12 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the oposite happened | Aug 12 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it dried up | Aug 12 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he started licensing another source | Aug 12 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Aug 12 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | many sites are taking a similar route, pulling in newsfeeds in place of local | Aug 12 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | original content | Aug 12 17:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I see that "ii" is running. Can I disturb that? I'd like to try another test | Aug 12 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | sure | Aug 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was about to take a break from the PCs | Aug 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's humid | Aug 12 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne made lots of lemonade, we got the lemons third price, took 4 packs | Aug 12 18:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Aug 12 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | nope, that didn't work either. :/ | Aug 12 18:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks. I don;t want to disturb him, the answer may turn up somewhere | Aug 12 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I was looking at the wiki and there is mention of using a file and they | Aug 12 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | made a point of giving examples of the format but seemed to take it for | Aug 12 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | granted that the file name was known | Aug 12 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so the wiki does not mention which file to edit to adjust limits for | Aug 12 18:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | various groups or accounts | Aug 12 18:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've aksed kaniini | Aug 12 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | strace-level debugging is one step away from backwar eng | Aug 12 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | there really ought to be more docs or better docs | Aug 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm sure it is dobale | Aug 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | those numbers do come from somewhere | Aug 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | ii is how the sites/ipfs/gemini etc. communicate with us via irc | Aug 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like the "bots" companies like to add to shit (spelled out "s-l-a-c-k") or discrock | Aug 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point I want to automate stuff for new addition of nodes etc. | Aug 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | like a notification system and alerts via irc | Aug 12 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | not too hard, but takes work | Aug 12 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | maybe the settings are done differently for LXC ? | Aug 12 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've installed the package 'shadow' and added /etc/security/limits.conf and | Aug 12 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | rebooted but the new limits do not show up for xxxx | Aug 12 18:08 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | got it! | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shadow linux-pam shadow-login were 'needed' though at the kind of terrible | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | cost of inflicting PAM onto the system; I hope that there is another way so | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that those changes can be rolled back | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | nope, that did not affect cron :( | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It does affect the interactive shell though, | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | $ ulimit -Sn; ulimit -Hn | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 8192 | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 16384 | Aug 12 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it is runnning manually, so far so good | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it stops in complete-index-split.sh near the end | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | here: | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | + ipfs stats bw | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Error: this command must be run in online mode. Try running 'ipfs daemon' first | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I added a /etc/pam.d/cron file and restarted crond but that had no effect | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | on the file limits | Aug 12 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | afaik | Aug 12 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | back | Aug 12 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs is not running | Aug 12 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | did some settings or paths change? | Aug 12 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | /var/log/ipfs/ipfs.log says ~/.ipfs/config permission denied | Aug 12 20:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | which system? I don't recall changing that but if the logs were rotated | Aug 12 20:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | by logrotate without the correct settings the permissions can be wrong | Aug 12 20:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Aug 12 20:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Aug 12 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would explain the error you saw | Aug 12 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | service ipfs start fails due to permissions | Aug 12 20:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the pam addeds restrictions | Aug 12 20:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there are no settings for ipfs logs so they will get the default | Aug 12 20:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | treatment, which will cause the incorrect permissions. | Aug 12 20:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | touch /var/log/ipfs/ipfs.log that line needs to be changed | Aug 12 20:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in /etc/logrotate.d/ipfs | Aug 12 20:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | does the daemon need a HUP to reload to restart the new log file? | Aug 12 20:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | If so, that's were it goes. | Aug 12 20:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Please add the right setting there so that it does not break ;) | Aug 12 20:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just read it twice and still not sure what to change | Aug 12 20:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | We can roll back the PAM stuff, there were the packages mentioned above and | Aug 12 20:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | a restart to do that | Aug 12 20:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just read it twice and still not sure what to change | Aug 12 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pam stuff might be ok so long as we can get ipfs to run again | Aug 12 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and | Aug 12 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | , if the pam thing, makes permanent changes to maax n of files, then the cron | Aug 12 20:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | job can be made to work too | Aug 12 20:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what is the full line, with all options, to start ipfs manually? | Aug 12 20:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'm looking at the open-rc file and none of it seems valid, | Aug 12 20:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what is the full line, with all options, to start ipfs manually? | Aug 12 20:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | checking | Aug 12 20:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | what is the full command to start ipfs manually? | Aug 12 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | back | Aug 12 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, just tried to start it again | Aug 12 20:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | same error | Aug 12 20:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | right, I see the failure in the log, but it would help a lot to know the | Aug 12 20:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | actual command | Aug 12 20:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | so as to try manually | Aug 12 20:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the user ipfs and the group ipfs have full read-write access to the necessary | Aug 12 20:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | directories so the rc-service is using the wrong group perhaps? | Aug 12 20:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or else it is a PAM thing; | Aug 12 20:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, | Aug 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | just service ipfs start/stop/status as root afaik | Aug 12 21:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shadow, linux-pam, and shadow-login are the recently added packages | Aug 12 21:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | if things need to be rolled back | Aug 12 21:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | do you have the actual command to run IPFS manually? | Aug 12 21:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that's the wrapper script :/ | Aug 12 21:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that provides virtually no logging | Aug 12 21:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ?? su -c '/usr/bin/ipfs daemon --enable-gc --migrate' -s /bin/sh ipfs | Aug 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe i never ran it as root in the past | Aug 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fact it's likely I never did | Aug 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I installed it | Aug 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | then ran it | Aug 12 21:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | from the user | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | if it was run as root the it will likely leave a trail of unknown files | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scattered around with root:root permissions when they need to be ipfs:ipfs | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | running it manually works: | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | su -c '/usr/bin/ipfs daemon --enable-gc --migrate' -s /bin/sh ipfs | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but running it under open-rc does not: | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | # rc-service ipfs start | Aug 12 21:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | * Starting ipfs ... | Aug 12 21:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | * start-stop-daemon: /usr/bin/ipfs died | Aug 12 21:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | * Failed to start ipfs [ !! ] | Aug 12 21:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | * ERROR: ipfs failed to start | Aug 12 21:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there must be some way to increase logging for open-rc | Aug 12 21:10 |
| Techrights-sec2 | /var/log/rc.log will hold the logs once openrc is restarted, but how to do that? | Aug 12 21:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least we see what it takes to resume ipfs after a restart | Aug 12 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and maybe the pam will come in han dy later | Aug 12 21:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we cannot fix the cron job, I can at least run it manually overnight, for now.. | Aug 12 21:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | .I assume no additional restrtuctions on incoming rsync | Aug 12 21:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok restart | Aug 12 21:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | logging still not in effect :( | Aug 12 21:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | sure, running it manually will be a work-around | Aug 12 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the pui I always run ipfs manually after reboots or other incidents | Aug 12 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pr | Aug 12 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pi | Aug 12 21:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can see you are tailing two logs | Aug 12 21:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I was about to check I can at least get ipfs going again | Aug 12 21:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 481 root 0:00 su -c /usr/bin/ipfs daemon --enable-gc --migrate -s /bin/sh ipfs | Aug 12 21:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 482 ipfs 0:15 /usr/bin/ipfs daemon --enable-gc --migrate | Aug 12 21:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It's running with nohup and redirecting to /home/ssssssss/ipfs.nohup | Aug 12 21:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | just tried running as cron | Aug 12 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it uploaded the empty tables | Aug 12 21:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | perhaps there is some interaction between PAM and openrc | Aug 12 21:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | running manually now | Aug 12 21:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | now it's running twice, see above :) | Aug 12 21:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | back and then afk again | Aug 12 21:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | some things are glr:glr and some things are ipfs:ipfs one or the other | Aug 12 21:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | account should be chosen. I have the feeling that you run ipfs manually as glr | Aug 12 21:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and that openrc runs it as ipfs and the group memberships are not right for that | Aug 12 21:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | mixture. | Aug 12 21:42 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I've just up[dated ipfs index in gemini | Aug 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and made it easier to update | Aug 12 21:42 |
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