●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, February 13, 2023 ●● ● Feb 13 [00:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 13 [01:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@e29ec4gtxas4w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 13 [03:13] schestowitz-pi trying to assess what to cover next regarding github [03:13] schestowitz-pi github series 38+39... [03:13] schestowitz-pi more statcounter stuff MIGHT be interesting, I'll give that a look first [03:15] techrights[sec] Interesting, when searching StartPage for "github layoffs" it recommends [03:15] techrights[sec] correcting the search query to "gitlab layoffs" instead [03:15] techrights[sec] Apparently they will also fire people, about 7% or 130 employees [03:15] techrights[sec] I guess steer people to src.ht and the others [03:16] schestowitz-pi sourcehut has issues too [03:16] schestowitz-pi maybe not codeeberg [03:16] schestowitz-pi sourcehut wants money from projects it previously hosted for free [03:16] schestowitz-pi and it does mass censorship of projects, starting with "crypto" [03:16] schestowitz-pi everything devault doesn't fancy [03:17] techrights[sec] m$ has money (or at least pretends to) for its LLM chatbot: [03:17] techrights[sec] https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/02/10/github-to-layoff-10-of-global-workforce-in-latest-tech-cuts/ [03:17] techrights[sec] m$ github will close all offices: [03:17] techrights[sec] https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi [03:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | Github To Layoff 10% Of Global Workforce In Latest Tech Cuts [03:18] techrights[sec] ll-close-all-offices/articleshow/97798728.cms [03:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi ) [03:18] techrights[sec] including hq [03:18] schestowitz-pi wow! [03:18] schestowitz-pi maybe another part is in order then [03:18] schestowitz-pi iirc, gitlab is remote [sic] work based for years already [03:36] schestowitz-pi draft [03:44] schestowitz-pi i could ask people inside intel, but maybe not a priority atm [03:44] schestowitz-pi (tbh) [03:44] schestowitz-pi pensions, github, other stories more important to us [03:45] techrights[sec] checking [03:45] techrights[sec] might want to restate the trend noticed two days ago, in addition to the link [03:45] techrights[sec] there are otherwise too many links to click on randomly and the text [03:45] techrights[sec] needs to convey the message anyway for Gemini [03:45] techrights[sec] The paragraph about Sirius needs a tie-in to the main part of the post, at least [03:45] techrights[sec] a sentence connecting its relevance to the GitHub layoffs or office closings [03:45] techrights[sec] s/going to do./going to do?/ [03:45] techrights[sec] ' [03:46] schestowitz-pi i will graft it back onto kate and reword more patiently [03:46] schestowitz-pi no need to hurry in this vase [03:46] schestowitz-pi *case [03:46] schestowitz-pi not an exclusive ● Feb 13 [04:01] schestowitz-pi the other day you mentioned nokia dn yahoo [04:01] schestowitz-pi what was the third one you mentioned? [04:01] schestowitz-pi i forgot [04:01] techrights[sec] LF ? OLTP was killed by M$ too [04:01] techrights[sec] That was well documented at the time but those articles are irretrievably in [04:01] techrights[sec] the past now and buried by the search engines and chaff [04:13] schestowitz-pi i soemtimes find myself wondering what % of ddos is due to open port, default password [04:13] schestowitz-pi internet of shit and what % is windows [04:13] schestowitz-pi we know internet of shit, bsd and linux, has like 10 times more market share than windows by now [04:13] schestowitz-pi as i no longer use google anything (not even youtuve or invidious) to identify news [04:13] schestowitz-pi i don't know if the fud nearly stopped or i'm just not seeing it [04:13] schestowitz-pi maybe it's for the better, even if the latter [04:14] techrights[sec] Windows botnets are being constantly used for DDoS attacks to hassle various [04:14] techrights[sec] web sites. There are many articles about DDoS, basically some every day. [04:14] techrights[sec] However, they all try to make it sound mysterious and unavoidable rather than [04:14] techrights[sec] point out the central role that M$ plays in enabling such attacks. [04:14] techrights[sec] Some of that might be marketing in order to promote the clownflare surveillance\ [04:14] techrights[sec] engine and other activity monitoring methods. [04:24] schestowitz-TR2 Android up to 45% of ALL market share, Windows down to 27% this month https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201802-202302 [04:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [04:24] schestowitz-TR2 gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [04:24] schestowitz-TR2 Microsoft Edge market share fell 5% this month, IN SPITE of all the media SPAM from Microsoft https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-201802-202302 Edge staff being laid off, too [04:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [04:24] schestowitz-TR2 gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [04:25] schestowitz-pi going to run the new script now [04:26] schestowitz-pi on the whole list of feeds, the 1000+ entries opml file ● Feb 13 [06:05] schestowitz-pi just recorded 3 videos for three articles [06:05] schestowitz-pi mostly good news today [06:05] schestowitz-pi all videos are good news [06:05] schestowitz-pi for a change ● Feb 13 [08:08] schestowitz-pi [07:41] "After almost 3 years, the PussTheCat.org Nitter instance has been shut dow [08:08] schestowitz-pi n permanently." [08:08] techrights[sec] ack [08:09] schestowitz-pi 2 drafts [08:09] schestowitz-pi videos processing [08:09] schestowitz-pi had kitchen incident again today, due to forgetting I was boiling water there [08:10] schestowitz-pi no big deal, but some burned finger, wasste of time, waste of energy [08:10] schestowitz-pi i will always set a timer from now on [08:15] techrights[sec] Timer is essential. It's seldom needed but the times it actually is needed [08:15] techrights[sec] it is irreplaceable. ● Feb 13 [09:13] techrightssec There are also the old style whistling kettles [09:13] techrightssec or at least there used to be. [09:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Feb 13 [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 Credentialism and the Fate of Academia https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/13/credentialism-and-the-fate-of-academia/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Credentialism and the Fate of Academia - CounterPunch.org [11:48] schestowitz-pi [long] [11:48] schestowitz-pi something occured to me this morning [11:48] schestowitz-pi as a longtime and well off editor from the 90s contacted me and wishes to meet in person [11:48] schestowitz-pi writing books is rather pointless these days, as people barely buy books like they used to [11:48] schestowitz-pi [reasons... does not matter, that's how it is] [11:48] schestowitz-pi when it comes to www sites, much of the same is becoming true [11:48] schestowitz-pi [reasons... does not matter, that's how it is] [11:48] schestowitz-pi 20 years ago a decent news site could get an article read many times, but not anymore [11:48] schestowitz-pi no matter the quality [11:48] schestowitz-pi imagine spending months researching something, only for a small audience [11:48] schestowitz-pi so those jobs seem to have passed [11:48] schestowitz-pi sjvn does not even write much in his new (latest) site [11:48] schestowitz-pi he had many, they failed [11:48] schestowitz-pi glaymoody also keeps swapping platforms [11:49] schestowitz-pi as does cory doctorow [11:49] schestowitz-pi turns out his wife is his editor [11:53] techrights[sec] People rarely buy books because so few can read long form any more and don't [11:53] techrights[sec] have the ability to concentrate enough to do it. Then most of the rest don't [11:53] techrights[sec] have any time because of lots of unpaid overtime, commuting, etc. [11:53] techrights[sec] 20 years ago there was not enough time in the day to even read through the [11:53] techrights[sec] headlines let alone the articles. That's why the site Slashdot, prior to sale, [11:53] techrights[sec] flourished. It acted as a filter for quality and relevance, plus allowed for [11:53] techrights[sec] some commentary and discussion. M$ and related interests hated it and fought [11:53] techrights[sec] it for years but then were able to purchase it outright and gut it, leavig [11:53] techrights[sec] the husk for spam and such. After one such sale it was used to point people to [11:53] techrights[sec] the propaganda and disinformation service "Reddit" [11:58] schestowitz-pi this is at least partly a political and societal issue, not tech and www issue [11:58] schestowitz-pi i honesty do not know a solution to it [11:58] schestowitz-pi i am powerless to change it [11:59] schestowitz-pi and it's not my role to change it, we're all cogs [11:59] schestowitz-pi having said that, doing what's right on one's own is often fine [11:59] schestowitz-pi the system gravitates towards crippling anything that MIGHT channelnge it [11:59] schestowitz-pi like the golden era of "leaky" web, they had to crush sites like wikileaks [11:59] schestowitz-pi and to caution others who thought about replicating the success of manning and snowden [11:59] schestowitz-pi putin doesn't take "this shit" at all [11:59] schestowitz-pi you get in trouble the moment you show lack of "gratitude" to the regime -- same as tehran and beijing [11:59] techrights[sec] And Usenet before that. ● Feb 13 [12:05] schestowitz-pi i have meanwhile found another decent instance of nitter [12:05] schestowitz-pi there are too many of them to destroy them all (at the moment) [12:05] schestowitz-pi i have my 'theory' about why twitter can stay online while cops/courts target the relay/s [12:05] schestowitz-pi the way i look at it, if you poke something with a stick, don't expect a lack of response [12:05] schestowitz-pi slapp, threats to that effect, smears, swatting, doxxing [12:05] schestowitz-pi in myanmar they even doxx critics with sex tapes now [12:06] techrights[sec] It's a rhetorical question but why are the authorities not stomping on twitter [12:06] techrights[sec] but only on the nitter mirrors? [12:06] techrights[sec] KSA [12:07] schestowitz-pi the simplest explanation might be, they use twitter as a honeypot [12:08] schestowitz-pi not necessarily adding cp to it [12:08] schestowitz-pi but using what's there to harvest ips [12:08] schestowitz-pi with nitter it can become trickier [12:08] schestowitz-pi it is rerouted indirectly, via some node [12:08] schestowitz-pi matt dehart was accused of cp something [12:08] schestowitz-pi iirc, he just ran some tor node [12:08] schestowitz-pi and some anthrax related stuff came through it [12:09] techrights[sec] And to control the narrative and steer discussion and set public opinion one [12:09] techrights[sec] way or another. [12:11] schestowitz-pi i only use nitter to observe mentions of domains of words [12:11] schestowitz-pi to bypass the noise [12:11] schestowitz-pi but tbh, twitter feels more and more dead over time [12:11] schestowitz-pi people flock away [12:11] schestowitz-pi it's a "downward spiral" [12:11] schestowitz-pi nitter might be obsolete in a few years [12:11] schestowitz-pi let's hope invivious will be too [12:11] schestowitz-pi due to google blocking my rss feed requests I've not received any updates [12:11] schestowitz-pi about youtube channels for weeks [12:11] schestowitz-pi seeing what happened to youtube, maybe it's better this way [12:11] schestowitz-pi that just mostly means fewer links to videos [12:11] schestowitz-pi they never break news anyhow [12:16] schestowitz-pi i know we needed to change, and that time was at the essence [12:16] schestowitz-pi as finding meaningful, original news was getting hard even months ago [12:16] schestowitz-pi banal news cycles, like LF and linux.com, put people off [12:16] schestowitz-pi we need toi attract sources [12:16] schestowitz-pi for 60 days I was the source to myself, but after 12 years [12:16] schestowitz-pi notice how almost nobody in media, lest foss sites, mentioned what happened to github [12:16] schestowitz-pi and the ramifications [12:18] schestowitz-pi liam dawe and boiling steam become catalogues of drm (most games), phoronix is mailing list and PR [12:18] schestowitz-pi commentator, foss force is still not sure what it is, marius tracks new releases mostly [12:21] techrights[sec] Shutting down Github was an evenutality once the sale to M$ looked likely to [12:21] techrights[sec] go through. Indeed it serves m$ goals anyway to do so even if they to what [12:21] techrights[sec] damage they can on the way out. [12:21] schestowitz-pi btw, one of the videos today devotes about a minute explaining that msfters needs to retrain [12:21] schestowitz-pi and why spreading microsoft elsewhere would be damaging [12:21] schestowitz-pi if nobody covers those things, fine, but it does need to be said [12:23] techrights[sec] Maybe that 1 minute can be expanded into a post? [12:23] techrights[sec] ^ topic ? [12:23] techrights[sec] msfters can't retrian they lack both the aptitude and the skill set; It'd be [12:23] techrights[sec] one thing if they were staring from noll but the way they are, it'd take decades [12:23] techrights[sec] for them to unlearn the mistakes and trash they have taken to heart. [12:24] techrights[sec] The mindset behind the m$ products is anathema to being able to work with [12:24] techrights[sec] computers in a constructive and meaningful way. The higher they rise and the [12:24] techrights[sec] more senior they become, the more distant they get from IT proper. [12:24] techrights[sec] IT as in the stuff which built the Internet, Usenet, and then WWW 1.0 and even [12:24] techrights[sec] to a limited extent 2.0 [12:27] schestowitz-pi what is web2? js? [12:32] techrights[sec] Not the JS part, it was still server-side for the most part back then. [12:32] techrights[sec] Now the server component is negligible and it merely feeds GB of javascript [12:32] techrights[sec] to clients in the form of web "apps" instead of actual pages. [12:32] techrights[sec] Yes it is already mostly replaced by web "app" served over HTTP. [12:32] techrights[sec] When HTTP/3 arrives, the web will be officially dead, IMHO. HTTP/3 retains [12:32] techrights[sec] no beneficial aspects. [12:33] schestowitz-pi seeing what happens in fb (moments ago), seems www is going away in SOME sense [12:33] schestowitz-pi geminispace too has been relatively quiet lately [12:33] schestowitz-pi not dead, just quieter [12:33] schestowitz-pi it's a good thing we managed to save while "techbubble" and fututeHopes(TM) (debt) were [12:33] schestowitz-pi still there [12:33] schestowitz-pi so someone else is left holding the bag [12:34] schestowitz-pi do you want to proofread portions of andy's upcoming book? it covers some of these themes [12:34] techrights[sec] It would be interesting, I'm not sure how much I could contribute though [12:38] schestowitz-pi Re: GitHub to Shut Down All Offices, Including Its Headquarters [12:38] schestowitz-pi > Im sure theyre losing a lot of hosting contracts right now [12:43] schestowitz-pi from reasonably informed source. [12:43] schestowitz-pi i think this, along with news of msft layoffs, should be cause for celebrating in the foss [12:44] schestowitz-pi "community" (it exists, but suppressed) [12:44] schestowitz-pi the other day i noticed that in recent weeks TR video got a major boost in b/w [12:44] schestowitz-pi i don't track per page/post [12:44] schestowitz-pi but it's good to know even historic material comes in handy for some [12:44] schestowitz-pi os even if i post nothing on a given day, that does not mean nothing read [12:44] schestowitz-pi i've relayed the email to andy [12:44] schestowitz-pi it's like reading the book one chapter at a time [12:44] schestowitz-pi with a chance to suggest changes before it's final [12:44] schestowitz-pi books are yesterday's "trophies" [12:44] schestowitz-pi when distribution was done by dead tree medium [12:44] schestowitz-pi or radio, tv, airwaves [12:50] schestowitz-pi andy is like a tehc ethicist [12:50] schestowitz-pi not this "hey hi" (bs, buzzword) "ethicist" [12:50] schestowitz-pi and has lots of time to think how to put the situation in words [12:50] schestowitz-pi there is no obligation to give feedback, but it is possible ● Feb 13 [13:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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