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schestowitz>>> Happy EasterApr 14 04:39
schestowitz>> Happy Easter,Apr 14 04:39
schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:39
schestowitz>> I don't know what this thing is, but you don't need to explain what itApr 14 04:39
schestowitz>> is, either.Apr 14 04:39
schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:39
schestowitz> Desert, as in the earlier category of recipes.Apr 14 04:39
schestowitzLooks... unusual to me.Apr 14 04:39
schestowitz> Roy:Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz>  Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz> Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz>     In universities, based on what I saw, MATLAB is used a lot and licencesApr 14 04:48
schestowitz>     tend to cover whole faculties. That does not imply actual usage however.Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz>     The business-friendly reports tend to measure "market" based on revenueApr 14 04:48
schestowitz>     alone.Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz> Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz> Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz> This pie chart doesn't seem to be measuring revenue though. Octave'sApr 14 04:48
schestowitz> revenue wouldn't compare with a proprietary giant like Matlab. JohnApr 14 04:48
schestowitz> Eaton is having a hard time finding money to support Octave:Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-octave/2017-02/msg00062.html Apr 14 04:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.gnu.org | Looking for Work after 25 Years of OctaveApr 14 04:48
schestowitzI used octave a lot and did tutorials for it. We live in a world where money isn't allocated to what's important but to what helps subjugate/control people.Apr 14 04:48
schestowitz>> Do be careful with interns. I've seen some things go extremely wrongApr 14 04:52
schestowitz>> with interns, it can be shocking.Apr 14 04:52
schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:52
schestowitz> They can also consume a lot of time.Apr 14 04:52
schestowitzYes, that's what I was thinking.Apr 14 04:52
schestowitz>>> Do be careful with interns. I've seen some things go extremely wrongApr 14 04:54
schestowitz>>> with interns, it can be shocking.Apr 14 04:54
schestowitz>>>Apr 14 04:54
schestowitz>> They can also consume a lot of time.Apr 14 04:54
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schestowitz>>Apr 14 04:54
schestowitz> If there is enough overlap between interests on both sides as well asApr 14 04:54
schestowitz> capabilities with our tasks, then only public material, or material thatApr 14 04:54
schestowitz> will soon become public, should be worked on.  The supervision couldApr 14 04:54
schestowitz> happen via IRC or something similar, as well.Apr 14 04:54
schestowitzYes, I was thinking of IRC. G Forbes used to do some copyright articles with us that way... and we can use the wiki for collaborative editing of articles, as was done back then...Apr 14 04:54
schestowitz>>> I still have a local copy of /var/lib/mysql/ here.  How long should IApr 14 04:56
schestowitz>>> keep it around?  It's probably not needed in reserve any more.Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz>> It is not necessary anymore, you can hard-purge it. It was an 'insuranceApr 14 04:56
schestowitz>> policy' for peace of mind anyway. Compressed latest mysql dumps would beApr 14 04:56
schestowitz>> better use of disk space. I saw no issues with the CMSes so far...Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz> Thanks.  All gone, including the tar balls.  Since it was in a tempApr 14 04:56
schestowitz> directory, it is not in the incremental backups either.Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz> Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz>> Lots of chatting in IRC right now... some stunning facts about OIN andApr 14 04:56
schestowitz>> WSL. But I lack supporting docs and/or links.Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz> Supporting documentation, or authoritative on-the-record sources, wouldApr 14 04:56
schestowitz> be essential.Apr 14 04:56
schestowitzNot so likely with Microsoft. I was probably already told some stuff I wasn't supposed to.Apr 14 04:56
schestowitz                    <li>Apr 14 04:57
schestowitz                      <h5><a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/131646/new-qt-releases-possibly-restricted-to-paying-customers-for-12-months-kde-not-particularly-happy/">New Qt releases possibly restricted to paying customers for 12 months, KDE not particularly happy</a></h5>Apr 14 04:57
schestowitz                      <blockquote>Apr 14 04:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.osnews.com | New 10.4.11 Build Adds Further Fixes – OSnewsApr 14 04:57
schestowitz                        <p>Luckily for the future of KDE and Qt, there is an agreement in place between KDE and The Qt Company that states that “[…] should The Qt Company discontinue the development of the Qt Free Edition under the required licenses, then the Foundation has the right to release Qt under a BSD-style license or under other open source licenses.” </p>Apr 14 04:57
schestowitz                        <p> This is a serious issue that I hope can be resolved, as nobody will benefit from a serious rift between The Qt Company and the KDE project. </p></blockquote></li>Apr 14 04:57
schestowitz                    <li>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                      <h5><a href="https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html">Qt, Open Source and corona</a></h5>Apr 14 04:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html">Qt )Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                      <blockquote>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                        <p>What does this mean for the future of Qt and for the future of KDE? </p>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                        <p> All software changes in Qt will still be available at as Open Source as required by our contract – maybe with a delay of 12 months if the company decides to part ways with the communities. </p>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                        <p> We will continue to work on a contract update that helps all sides. But even if these negotiations were to be unilaterally stopped by The Qt Company, Qt will stay Open Source, and KDE will be able to use it. I am also absolutely sure that the Qt + KDE communities will continue cooperation on new features, bug fixes, and security fixes, even should The Qt Company decide to forgo the benefits of cooperationApr 14 04:58
schestowitz </p>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz                        <p> I invite The Qt Company to stay with us. It will be worthwhile. </p></blockquote></li>Apr 14 04:58
schestowitz>>>> Lots of chatting in IRC right now... some stunning facts about OIN andApr 14 05:03
schestowitz>>>> WSL. But I lack supporting docs and/or links.Apr 14 05:04
schestowitz>>> Supporting documentation, or authoritative on-the-record sources, wouldApr 14 05:04
schestowitz>>> be essential.Apr 14 05:04
schestowitz>> Not so likely with Microsoft. I was probably already told some stuff IApr 14 05:04
schestowitz>> wasn't supposed to.Apr 14 05:04
schestowitz> Ok.  Then please remember to double check before posting, it isApr 14 05:04
schestowitz> important to treat sources excellently.  However, maybe there is otherApr 14 05:04
schestowitz> useful information available on-the-record.Apr 14 05:04
schestowitzI can chase the Microsoft people for answers (numbers) again, but it's unlikely they'll reply and they might even use that to see I 'harass' them.Apr 14 05:04
schestowitzI can ask them loaded questions. Worth it?Apr 14 05:04
schestowitz>> Yeah, well... it's already known what he is. He only reinforces theApr 14 05:19
schestowitz>> label on his back.Apr 14 05:19
schestowitz>>Apr 14 05:19
schestowitz>>Apr 14 05:19
schestowitz> Yeah, there are no decent web search engines any more.  There haven'tApr 14 05:19
schestowitz> been for more than a few years.Apr 14 05:19
schestowitzI've meanwhile used Google again... when searx instances were not accessible. Apr 14 05:19
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schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLuQNxKv0_I_nao6N3twO8g       Apr 14 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Medeltidens Österbotten - YouTubeApr 14 06:21
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