●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 ●● ● Sep 14 [00:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rpu9mz6yipehc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [02:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ahzjkf8umhje6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:39] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:40] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [03:23] schestowitz-TR2 "Open-source software enables researchers to see materials in 3D while they're still on the electron microscope" https://news.umich.edu/visualizing-nanoscale-structures-in-real-time/ [03:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.umich.edu | Visualizing nanoscale structures in real time | University of Michigan News [03:42] *_Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [03:55] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-jtf.fio.8bsfqc.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [06:03] Techrights-sec ack [06:04] schestowitz-TR2 just sent instructions to marius [06:05] schestowitz-TR2 Marius uses the automated script not the shell. [06:05] schestowitz-TR2 So which instructions? [06:05] Techrights-sec Marius uses the automated script not the shell. [06:05] Techrights-sec So which instructions? [06:06] schestowitz-TR2 see email [06:06] Techrights-sec Thanks [06:09] Techrights-sec Though the script might change since it's not considered completed. [06:10] schestowitz-TR2 yeah, i'm aware ● Sep 14 [07:17] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 14 [08:14] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [08:15] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [09:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 14 [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 mate, :) it's worse [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 theverge.com [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 ANY page I visit with falkan [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 becomes 500 [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 lol!!! [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 good luck with billg [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 I never liked them after patel fired the person who was preparing an article for them [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 because he exposed billg [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 and then billg took over [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 so deep inside I hope they join, along with zdnet, the graveyard of sites [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 I would not miss them [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 they dn't target me [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 I'm not their audience [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 they probably only test with "smart" phones [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 ads, infinite scroll... [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 WAIT< WTF!!!! [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 the bottom links link to VOXMEDIA! [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 so theverge is vox [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 goldman sachs et al [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 very notorious [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 bottom of pages [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 "the verge is a vox mnedia network" [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 so they sold or sold out [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 or cashed in on the exit [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 I cannot even enter any article there, not with falkon anyway [10:34] Techrights-sec ack [10:34] Techrights-sec When did they sell to that company? [10:36] schestowitz-TR2 i wondered the exact same thing, maybe wikipedia can tell [10:36] schestowitz-TR2 maybe it has gone on for years without them declaring it [10:36] schestowitz-TR2 sort of like pia and freenode [10:37] Techrights-sec Here's a hint: https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/4/23056898/the-verge-partners-with-vox-media-studios-and-21-laps-on-new-netflix-series [10:37] Techrights-sec It's been a while though, already in 2021: [10:37] Techrights-sec https://deadline.com/2021/12/vox-media-group-nine-to-merger-digital-consolidation-1234890285/ [10:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | The Verge Partners with Vox Media Studios and 21 Laps on New Netflix Series - The Verge [10:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Vox Media And Group Nine Media On Verge Of Merging Amid Digital Consolidation Wave Deadline [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 same with zdnet [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 it has been complicated since cbs collapsed [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 and then another company stepped in [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 even weirder when you check out the families that own these companies [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 wikipedia is not helping much, it feels like it covers up [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 zdnet, in its own words, sells sponsored narratives [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 like the oin and lf bs [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 that's the product [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 assigned to staff writer [10:42] Techrights-sec "Lockhart Steele, founder and C.E.O. of the Curbed Network, met Bankoff about two years ago, around the same time Vox Media acquired The Verge. Though the t [10:42] Techrights-sec wo have "flirted" with the prospect of joining forces the timing was never right, until now that is." [10:42] Techrights-sec https://www.politico.com/media/story/2013/11/with-curbed-buy-vox-media-is-done-with-acquisitions-for-a-while-001312/ [10:42] Techrights-sec Sure kept that low-key [10:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-With Curbed buy, Vox Media is done with acquisitions, for a while- POLITICO Media [10:42] Techrights-sec https://www.vox.com/2015/5/26/8663975/vox-media-recode-deal-explained [10:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Vox Media-Re/code deal, explained by Vox Medias CEO - Vox [10:42] Techrights-sec Re/code used to be around but faded away rather rapidly at some point. [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 I've long been in favour of boyotting billbc, billpr, and the verge [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 all compromsied by the bill, just like bill's guardian [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 I cannot stand sending them traffic, thinking about what monsters that helps support (even if not linking directly to the hagiographies and revisionism) [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 re re/code, you beat me to it [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 I was about to say the same thing you did [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 yesterday I sae ina fried (Microsoft mole) boosting LF trash, i.e. github [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 microsoft tim became a nomad, just like catalin cimpanu and bogdan popa [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 they won't be done till they sell pencil from a cup in the street [10:45] Techrights-sec :( [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 they are actively malicious [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 with some publishers, like pro publica, they just drink from the fountain billg pisses in [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 and that makes them tainted rather than actively malicious [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 so that's the lesser problematic tier [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 now that more people know what the bill and lolita foundation is, it is important to remind people who took bribes from it [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 that's just karma [10:50] Techrights-sec https://www.axios.com/2022/03/03/vox-media-group-nine-merger-layoffs [10:50] Techrights-sec anti-investment to drive de-growth towards an eventual "successful" bankruptcy [10:50] Techrights-sec https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verge#Vox_Media_/_SB_Nation [10:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.axios.com | Vox Media lays off 3% of staff after Group Nine merger [10:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ultimatepopculture.fandom.com | The Verge | Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki | Fandom [10:55] schestowitz-TR2 two common tactics (HR) [10:55] schestowitz-TR2 -reduce hours for a perios of time according to which severance if calculated, then lay off [10:56] schestowitz-TR2 -assign workers to a new (obsolete) unit, then scuttle the unit (happened in epo) [10:56] schestowitz-TR2 btw, I am failing to leave the company, no matter what I try; cannot do anything abrupt because of rianne's position [10:56] Techrights-sec ack [10:56] Techrights-sec https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/27/vox-media-cuts-staff-slows-down-hiring-as-recession-fears-grow.html [10:56] Techrights-sec ack [10:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Vox Media cuts staff, slows down hiring as recession fears grow ● Sep 14 [11:00] schestowitz-TR2 maybe the new site (redesign) is a low-cost skeleton, time will tell. i cannot open any page there, they obv. lost me as a reader. [11:00] schestowitz-TR2 the new zdnet most certaionly feels like a rush job, a low-budget pull-shit-together work [11:00] schestowitz-TR2 with a logo a little child can make [11:00] schestowitz-TR2 *rushed [11:06] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:07] Techrights-sec https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/ [11:07] Techrights-sec "best for ..." [11:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/ ) [11:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 best for > optimised for > limited to [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 site might not be safe -> press many buttons to go ahead -> this site is malicious, close tab [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 the www is for tim b-l to share info -> it's to share DATA -> it's transport for DRM shit [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 wikipedia is for collaboration on info -> wikipedia is to 'guard' info from spinners -> wikipedia is for spinners to guardian brands from "harmful" facts [11:10] Techrights-sec https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream [11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream ) [11:10] Techrights-sec ack [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 rip, www [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 thge casket has been ready, made by the master carpenter [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 but the www does not yet know it is there [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 it insists things will be ok if only everyone downloaded timbl's JS framwork from proprietary microsoft'nsa shithub [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 if only... [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 we meanwhile have other frameworks for interlinked pages that are safe to use and don't come with 200MB binaries [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 and can do as well as doxygen and other vital stuff [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 "due, WTF!!! I don't need your fucking FONTS to read your fucking recipe!!" [11:12] schestowitz-TR2 *dude [11:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:32] Techrights-sec ack [11:32] Techrights-sec Which recipe site(s) push external fonts? [11:33] schestowitz-TR2 lots of the "big ones" for sure [11:33] schestowitz-TR2 the ones that think sites are always viewed like a poster with the same device and configs [11:33] schestowitz-TR2 some sites are like a PDF [11:33] schestowitz-TR2 and that too makes wrong assumption about the client device [11:34] Techrights-sec Many CMS-based sites in general push external fonts. [11:34] Techrights-sec The pages end up being many tens of megabytes, all told. [11:34] Techrights-sec The Verge's new layout is "quite cleve" but basically unusable on a standard [11:34] Techrights-sec landscape mode screen. I bet they only bothered to test it on a smartphone. [11:35] schestowitz-TR2 that is not a smart move [11:35] schestowitz-TR2 they are on the verge of driving away many readers [11:35] schestowitz-TR2 I cannot even access the site, not even with JS [11:42] Techrights-sec It does not need javascript, as far as I know, but the abuse of CSS makes for [11:42] Techrights-sec very agitated, distracting movement while scrolling and a miserably narrow [11:42] Techrights-sec column for the actual content. The crap on the screen moves around despite [11:42] Techrights-sec me not telling to explicitly. Clever is not the same as useful. [11:42] Techrights-sec I used to be able to skim the site quickly and pick out interesting articles. [11:42] Techrights-sec Now it is hard to see what the articles are about and what to even click on. [11:42] Techrights-sec Usability is not a goal, very clearly. That's not a problem limited to [11:42] Techrights-sec The Verge. Usability is so out of fashion that you can buy some of the best [11:42] Techrights-sec books on the topic for a few EUR, including shipping. One of the thinks which [11:42] Techrights-sec I suspect has happened is that the people who grew up with "engagement" in their [11:42] Techrights-sec interfaces think that is how the site is best made. If it does not have RSS [11:42] Techrights-sec I might stop checking it, since it requires too much time and effort for the [11:42] Techrights-sec meager return it still provides. [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 too much spice spoils the broth [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 we need to start over [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 back to 90s www [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 i know the feeling [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 in 2004ish I wrote a bunch of scriptc to follow sites that did not have rss feeds (yet) [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 right now I have list of sites to check [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 for which either new rss exists or no specific-enough feeds exist, e.g. linux [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 today rianne asked about traffic in new TM [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 I told her I don't know and don't care much [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 it's not even clear what and who to measure [11:45] schestowitz-TR2 e.g. bots or x requests per page (images, css, favicon...) [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 to impress or to lie to shareholders like FB and twitter do [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 you could just double the number of objects in each page, then count "hits" [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 or you could count spiders are "active users" etc etc [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 i told you years ago that I learned from addiction until around 2006 that tracking "stats" can be a major waste of time [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 time better spent producing more instead [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 and not giving a damn about perceived "popularity" [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 it can be down-putting [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 spamnil keeps increasing spambot/clickfrauds doses to keep the same level of self-delusion/satisfaction [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 but deep inside he knows he's a fraud and utter failure [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 like many managers (inwards) [11:49] schestowitz-TR2 insecure to the poiint of bullying anyone who might expose them ● Sep 14 [12:11] *rianne has quit (Connection closed) [12:11] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:11] *rianne has quit (connection closed) [12:11] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:38] *_Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-6cd.t1t.i4ua3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:39] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Sep 14 [13:16] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [13:16] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:19] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [14:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:21] Techrights-sec There are a lot of possible dead ends to explore still. [14:27] schestowitz-TR2 you can grab the key in roy @ tr-new or tm-new [14:27] schestowitz-TR2 it is the one I use [14:29] Techrights-sec ok [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 ota (lf) [14:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 "Many of Peiter (Mudge) Zatkos former colleagues have received offers of payment for information about him." https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-search-for-dirt-on-the-twitter-whistle-blower [15:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.newyorker.com | The Search for Dirt on the Twitter Whistle-Blower | The New Yorker [15:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:14] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [15:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [16:34] schestowitz-TR2 recorded, done [16:34] schestowitz-TR2 thanks, I shall take a look when I wake up later [16:34] schestowitz-TR2 need to first catch up with links to assure TM is ehad of the surve [16:35] schestowitz-TR2 *ahead of the curve [16:36] schestowitz-TR2 search functionality can later be used to check other (prior) pages for proxmity and then add "pages related to this:" [16:42] *_Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:44] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [16:46] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [17:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [17:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:28] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:31] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [18:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Sep 14 [19:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [19:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:20] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 14 [20:05] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-c1p.v7r.m0ki60.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [20:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [20:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@b3cwzqcm48q78.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:29] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:51] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 14 [21:49] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [21:51] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:55] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) ● Sep 14 [22:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:28] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:29] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:29] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed)