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[03:21] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [03:21] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [03:21] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [03:21] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [03:21] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [03:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[04:25] schestowitz-TR I've just cleaned rss for "main" feeds [04:26] Techrights-sec NDAs were mentioned in the IRC logs, they are pribably at least as harmful [04:26] Techrights-sec as patents and far more insidious [04:26] schestowitz-TR yes, sadly trade secrets and NDAs are not a legal area I feel comfortable to comment on [04:26] schestowitz-TR would rather pass tbh [04:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:29] Techrights-sec ok [04:29] Techrights-sec I figure those and the nondisparagement clauses in termination contracts [04:29] Techrights-sec are covering billions if not trillions of dollars in damage by hiding corporate [04:29] Techrights-sec misdeeds. [04:30] schestowitz-TR you have just given me topic idea [04:30] schestowitz-TR btw, zemlin seems to be doing some pr campaign for himself [04:30] schestowitz-TR rianne notified me [04:30] schestowitz-TR but I cannot comment on it [04:30] schestowitz-TR as he piggybacks a toddler with severe disabilities [04:30] schestowitz-TR so it's too toxic to even comment on [04:31] Techrights-sec yes but I have not followed his antics lately [04:31] Techrights-sec yes that's the game the microsofters play [04:32] *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [04:32] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [04:32] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:32] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [04:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 15 [05:28] schestowitz-TR ota [05:28] schestowitz-TR dfraft [05:34] Techrights-sec ack [05:34] Techrights-sec a few words in the first paragraph about the nature of the FUD would help [05:34] Techrights-sec https://www.nngroup.com/articles/inverted-pyramid/ [05:34] Techrights-sec https://ohiostate.pressbooks.pub/stratcommwriting/chapter/inverted-pyramid-style/ [05:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nngroup.com | Inverted Pyramid: Writing for Comprehension [05:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ohiostate.pressbooks.pub | Inverted pyramid style Writing for Strategic Communication Industries [05:34] schestowitz-TR thanks, I added some words and links [05:35] Techrights-sec np [05:37] Techrights-sec maybe, to refine it further, [05:37] Techrights-sec s/tends to be mentioned in dark/tends to only be mentioned in dark/ [05:38] schestowitz-TR I think that would be untrue though [05:38] schestowitz-TR it's not exclusive a trend [05:38] Techrights-sec ah, ok [05:38] Techrights-sec It is, however, a predominant trend [05:42] schestowitz-TR hang on [05:42] schestowitz-TR I shall expand [05:42] schestowitz-TR ok, see now [05:50] Techrights-sec "too often" rather than "only" ? [05:50] Techrights-sec checking [05:50] Techrights-sec s/its not going to improve/its not going to improve for the forseeable future/ [05:50] Techrights-sec ? [05:50] Techrights-sec ^forseeable [05:50] schestowitz-TR check out the latest post from LFossFarce [05:51] Techrights-sec ok [05:51] Techrights-sec https://fossforce.com/2022/04/dirk-hohndel-linux-linus-licenses-and-the-business-of-open-source/ [05:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Dirk Hohndel: Linux, Linus, and the Business of Open Source - FOSS Force [05:51] schestowitz-TR we have spamnil #2 [05:52] Techrights-sec :( [05:52] schestowitz-TR yes [05:53] schestowitz-TR money talks [05:53] schestowitz-TR some people talk for mney [05:53] schestowitz-TR she did ibm/redhat through some media contractor last year [05:53] schestowitz-TR many puff pieces [05:53] schestowitz-TR not the money is LF [05:53] schestowitz-TR Not just the pieces [05:53] schestowitz-TR also the site [05:53] schestowitz-TR I wonder if she removed past articles about LF [05:53] schestowitz-TR or will [05:53] Techrights-sec say-for-pay [05:53] Techrights-sec It would be interesting to know what leverge they gain to get people to sell out [05:55] schestowitz-TR we used to cover cases. real concrete examples, [05:55] schestowitz-TR of sites that blast gates, his foundation and microsoft [05:55] schestowitz-TR he then bribes them [05:55] schestowitz-TR and they take down the criticism [05:55] schestowitz-TR I think LF is another foundstion of this kind [05:55] schestowitz-TR at the very least they muzzle their critics [05:55] schestowitz-TR and zemlin is now "protecting children" [05:55] schestowitz-TR so I'd better say nothing [05:55] Techrights-sec there's often a carrot and a stick not just a carrot [05:55] Techrights-sec perhaps. for the time being. ● Apr 15 [06:35] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 15 [07:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:13] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [07:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [07:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [07:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) ● Apr 15 [08:46] schestowitz-TR LOL "Unicorn Media" [08:46] schestowitz-TR Is that what fossforce is going under? [08:49] Techrights-sec perhaps; gambling / speculation on random sites in hopes of a big payoff at the IPO? [08:50] schestowitz-TR do you want me to copy the latest proxy code? I see you made further changes [08:52] Techrights-sec yes, probably a good idea [08:52] Techrights-sec that one has been tested locally [08:53] Techrights-sec the one in GIt, that is ● Apr 15 [09:09] schestowitz-TR done [09:09] schestowitz-TR green [09:09] schestowitz-TR testing manually [09:16] schestowitz-TR this afternoon we shop for food [09:16] schestowitz-TR not sure if you noticed in irc, but leah is like us in that regard [09:16] schestowitz-TR 'stealing' the discounts [09:16] schestowitz-TR here, they can be like 90% off or more if you are lucky [09:19] schestowitz-TR food is one of those things, along with water, you cannot import to dodge high pricing locally [09:19] schestowitz-TR so that imposes more threat of monopoly or oligopoly abuse [09:19] schestowitz-TR iow, price-fixing [09:19] schestowitz-TR there are other words for it [09:20] schestowitz-TR happiest country on the planet, not polling in the local supermarkets ;-) [09:22] schestowitz-TR - [09:22] schestowitz-TR Lxer had a 3-day downtime recently and it acts like it is run by somehow careful [09:22] schestowitz-TR or is desperate due to media deserts [09:22] schestowitz-TR a lot of links they post they are not 'supposed' to post [09:22] schestowitz-TR and they will put off real gnu/linux neophiles or users [09:24] schestowitz-TR I will NOT do videos about such sites becauise I assume no ill intent [09:24] schestowitz-TR there, the isue is different [09:24] schestowitz-TR but I think in a hurried rush to post anything [09:24] schestowitz-TR even webspam from linux.com [09:24] schestowitz-TR they only dig their own grave, [09:24] schestowitz-TR accelerating their demise [09:24] schestowitz-TR like our stupid company thinkintg that making compromises [09:24] schestowitz-TR would keep us around lonmger [09:24] schestowitz-TR while in reality driving awaysome geeks [09:42] Techrights-sec as for driving people away; A-players hire A-players; B-playes hire C-players and worse, driving away the talent [09:42] Techrights-sec comprimises often mean appeasementg instead, and appeasment always fails sooner [09:42] Techrights-sec or later [09:42] Techrights-sec usually sooner [09:42] Techrights-sec there are several insterests that gain from the demise of Linux.com [09:42] Techrights-sec and OpenSource.com [09:42] Techrights-sec THose sites could serve as beacons but are intentionally prevented frmm [09:42] Techrights-sec anything benefiial like that [09:42] Techrights-sec Speaking of Freedom, is RMS talk online anywhere? The TR video seems [09:42] Techrights-sec broken. I tried to listen to it in VLC but it started looping after a while [09:44] schestowitz-TR if you mean the audio started looping, that's the fault of the streamer [09:44] schestowitz-TR their playback thing got stuck like a broken record during the ted talk [09:44] schestowitz-TR also, the talk became audio-only [09:44] schestowitz-TR which does not make free software seem too good [09:44] schestowitz-TR although I suspect the culprit was RMS and his connection [09:47] Techrights-sec It's the problem that people go out of their way to make things complex [09:47] Techrights-sec and furthermore refractoring is not valued in either business or popular culture [09:47] Techrights-sec If it compiles, throw it over the fence and run away. [09:50] schestowitz-TR afaik, figosdev dumped the webm to a local file [09:50] schestowitz-TR and I recorded from my end [09:50] schestowitz-TR if you use another media player, you will mostly see irc channels and get the voice [09:50] schestowitz-TR nothing missed as rms turned off his cameras after 1 min of technical difficulties [09:50] schestowitz-TR from what I saw yesterday, as per bnchs iirc (in IRC), fsf has since then locked down access to IRC [09:50] schestowitz-TR IOW, this stream attracted a platoon of prolonged disruption [09:52] Techrights-sec I tried to listen to it in VLC but it started looping after a while [09:52] Techrights-sec I haven [09:52] Techrights-sec I haven't looked at streaming video for a very logn time and don't know [09:52] Techrights-sec how that might have been set up. It would make sense for the distribution [09:52] Techrights-sec of the streams go go from another node and not RMS himself but there are [09:52] Techrights-sec so many very stupid decisions being made in software development these days [09:52] Techrights-sec that it might have been the case that the bottleneck was his connection. [09:52] Techrights-sec It's the problem that people go out of their way to make things complex [09:52] Techrights-sec and furthermore refractoring is not valued in either business or popular culture [09:52] Techrights-sec If it compiles, throw it over the fence and run away. [09:52] Techrights-sec yes software freedom and especially its successful proponents are in the sights [09:52] Techrights-sec of teams of astroturfers paid for by interestes aligned with M$ if not M$ itselfFSF and others are not willing to acknowledge that [09:52] Techrights-sec reality and appear to [09:52] Techrights-sec accept astroturfers as grassroots. [09:54] schestowitz-TR bot ok, let me put it like this [09:54] schestowitz-TR 1) fsf would have little use for this file [09:54] schestowitz-TR as if cointains no video [09:54] schestowitz-TR and RMS was struggling to understand what the questions were about [09:54] schestowitz-TR I stopped after the first one [09:54] schestowitz-TR 2) even if I got the raw file from fig/matey, same problem as (1) [09:54] schestowitz-TR not to brag, but at least in our version you have something to look at like 2 IRC networks [09:54] schestowitz-TR I tried not to talk much [09:54] schestowitz-TR except when I could not resist or when there were technical issues [09:54] schestowitz-TR it's perfecctly possible this talk will never be published [09:54] schestowitz-TR not officially anyway [09:57] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:57] Techrights-sec I wonder if the webm at TR can be salvaged then. [09:59] schestowitz-TR as I said, the file generally works [09:59] schestowitz-TR I only started noticjing issues in vlc, and vlc alone, about 2 weeks ago [09:59] schestowitz-TR and after checking files produced on a DIFFERENT machine, [09:59] schestowitz-TR I saw the same issue in VLC [09:59] schestowitz-TR so I don't think it's due to the recording software [09:59] schestowitz-TR post-processing it is fine [09:59] schestowitz-TR webcamoid is not the same version on both machines [09:59] schestowitz-TR so I suspect vlc is at fault ● Apr 15 [10:08] Techrights-sec ok I will look in Audacity [10:08] Techrights-sec ^Listen [10:13] schestowitz-TR IME, any media player that does video works OK with it [10:13] schestowitz-TR I got miffed if not upset a few times [10:13] schestowitz-TR seeing that the video got stuck [10:13] schestowitz-TR then I tried a different media player [10:13] schestowitz-TR I spent 1 hour yesterday trying to 'fix' webcomoid [10:13] schestowitz-TR my conclusion is, neon updates the kernel [10:13] schestowitz-TR a lot [10:13] schestowitz-TR not like point releases [10:13] schestowitz-TR so they may have broken noisetorch [10:13] schestowitz-TR after the reboot last week [10:13] schestowitz-TR either way, I organised things around here [10:13] schestowitz-TR and studies obs basicsa [10:13] schestowitz-TR so I suspect videos will be recorded mostly on that machined [10:13] schestowitz-TR soon I might extend the shell script for videosi might even make it go faster [10:13] schestowitz-TR webm/ogg do no support "copy" operation in or from the proiprietyary formats [10:13] schestowitz-TR in ffmpeg [10:13] schestowitz-TR and the conversions are a bit lossy [10:13] schestowitz-TR a 'round-trip' would not give the same quality [10:13] schestowitz-TR maybe same file size, not qua "I am now a single-issue voter in the US: stop taxing expats! You can get some insight into the financials of SourceHut in the recently-published financial report." https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html [19:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-drewdevault.com | Status update, April 2022 ● Apr 15 [20:00] schestowitz-TR https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/new-mozilla-docuseries-firefox-presents-launch/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/abby-wren-makeup-artist-alopecia-advocate/ [20:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | New Mozilla Docuseries Firefox Presents Celebrates Creators [20:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Firefox Presents: A makeup artist with alopecia redefining beauty online [20:15] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:19] schestowitz-TR > "One thing that really interests me in the Lagrange project is exploring the boundaries of native cross-platform programming, be [20:19] schestowitz-TR cause I fundamentally dislike the notion that modern cross-platform apps need to be based on a web browser for things to make sens [20:19] schestowitz-TR e." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_land-of-columns.gmi [20:19] schestowitz-TR [18:31] of non-free rather than reaching out to the /sources/ causing the use of <- yes, i said the state [20:19] schestowitz-TR of the movement sounded more like articles of surrender [20:19] schestowitz-TR [18:50] "VMware Multiple Products Privilege Escalation Vulnerability" https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-acti [20:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-acti ) [20:19] schestowitz-TR vity/2022/04/15/cisa-adds-nine-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog Vmware the frauds try to blame "Linux" for their own defect [20:19] schestowitz-TR ive crap http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022 [20:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights [20:19] schestowitz-TR [18:50] "An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." VMware is crap lik [20:19] schestowitz-TR e Windows. No wonder as Microsofters stole the company. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/15/vmware-releases- [20:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/15/vmware-releases- ) [20:19] schestowitz-TR security-updates-cloud-director [20:19] schestowitz-TR [18:52] Linux Foundation is now fronting for serial GPl violators like VMware and Microsoft. "Less Time on Compl [20:19] schestowitz-TR iance"... https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/more-time-on-innovating-less-time-on-compliance/ [20:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxfoundation.org | More Time on Innovating, Less Time on Compliance - Linux Foundation [20:19] schestowitz-TR [19:01] SJVN shilling Microsoft for LF (the sponsor of this) https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-finally-brings-arm [20:19] schestowitz-TR -based-vms-to-azure/ [20:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-finally-brings-arm ) [20:19] Techrights-sec I hope Cory Doctorow is able to put away enough to cover a comfortable [20:19] Techrights-sec retirements so that he does not end up like some others ... [20:20] schestowitz-TR were you able to 'scroll' back or rather see the link about lagrange? [20:20] schestowitz-TR while afak I wanted to share some more links but worried they would nuke freom sight older ones [20:22] Techrights-sec I saw that there was something about Lagrange but did not have a chance to check it [20:22] Techrights-sec https://gmi.skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_land-of-columns.gmi [20:22] Techrights-sec ?? [20:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gmi.skyjake.fi | In the Land of Columns and Characters [20:22] schestowitz-TR Yes, I also need to find better methods og buffering thoughts [20:22] schestowitz-TR with irc on several screens it's far too easy to get distracted [20:22] schestowitz-TR Twitter seems to have stated faking "impression" numbers some days ago [20:22] schestowitz-TR I posted nothing [20:22] schestowitz-TR but # of impressions more than quadrupled each and every day [20:22] schestowitz-TR they were sued for faking and settled (lost) [20:23] Techrights-sec Interesting. I wonder how they can be called out and their fakery exposed. [20:27] schestowitz-TR either way, there were more things I wanted to share with you but they must not have been too important or else I would have [20:27] schestowitz-TR written them down. If not here, then my notes somewhere. [20:27] schestowitz-TR I'm going to record soon. [20:27] schestowitz-TR Not many annoying bits of noise/news this week. [20:27] schestowitz-TR I prefer it that way [20:27] schestowitz-TR Rianne saved us about 30 pounds on the food bills today [20:27] schestowitz-TR Had I joined, it would be 60 [20:27] schestowitz-TR lots of dirt-cheap items she copuld not carry [20:27] schestowitz-TR I will doa journey sunday night [20:27] schestowitz-TR coffee got more expensive [20:27] schestowitz-TR let me check the weight, hang on [20:27] schestowitz-TR aldi arbia roast, the cheapest, for the brewing, 227grams at around 1.19 pounds [20:27] schestowitz-TR the one I used to buy is abotu 1.50 [20:28] Techrights-sec ack [20:28] Techrights-sec excellent [20:28] schestowitz-TR regarding twitter, I called them out on it years ago [20:28] schestowitz-TR of course [20:28] schestowitz-TR bots [20:28] schestowitz-TR were gaming the site [20:28] schestowitz-TR and they looked the other way [20:31] Techrights-sec I think that may be avout 6.88 EUR per kilo, which is just over half what it [20:31] Techrights-sec is here nowadays [20:31] Techrights-sec even the cheapes brand [20:31] Techrights-sec ^6.34 EUR [20:31] Techrights-sec If there is Quarterlky profit to be gained, then of course they look the other [20:31] Techrights-sec way [20:31] Techrights-sec fossil fuel pricing is used to maniplate elections, especially US elections [20:31] Techrights-sec there is a myth tying pump prices to satisfaction with the incumbents [20:31] Techrights-sec that's false but cultivated in the minds of the public anyway [20:31] Techrights-sec and then the prices are modified to push the election a few points in [20:31] Techrights-sec on direction or the other. [20:32] schestowitz-TR one more lever of control or a spiggot for oil magnates to get the country's "leader" to [20:32] schestowitz-TR "owe them one" [20:41] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:42] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 15 [22:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [22:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:37] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 15 [23:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6nczkbix4345i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell