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[07:47] schestowitz-TR Over the years Google spied on me online (even USENET, based on the context and the E-mail address they contacted me on). Then they tried to hire me, base [07:47] schestowitz-TR d on the spying. ● Jun 15 [08:00] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:04] schestowitz-TR one theory I have is, [08:04] schestowitz-TR maybe when looking for more RSS feeds I used their web interface and was logged in with this account [08:04] schestowitz-TR let me check...\ [08:04] schestowitz-TR yes, that's a possibility [08:04] schestowitz-TR I see it was left logged in to this account [08:04] schestowitz-TR something to do with idiotic colleague sending something using Gulag [08:04] schestowitz-TR we used to have a file server of course [08:04] schestowitz-TR but idiots with Macs and "phones" don't know what that means or how to use that [08:04] schestowitz-TR so they shut down the file server, which was hosted in our office [08:04] schestowitz-TR that's what privacy means or meanty [08:04] schestowitz-TR *meany [08:04] schestowitz-TR *meant [08:16] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:16] Techrights-sec2 shutting down a file server is one of the stupidest moves, not just counting [08:16] Techrights-sec2 privacy [08:16] Techrights-sec2 I figure that Google has the public more thoroughly mapped than even Facebook [08:16] Techrights-sec2 :( [08:16] schestowitz-TR stupid people do stupid stuff [08:16] schestowitz-TR incidentally, tl;dr: [08:16] schestowitz-TR client of activism site (iran human rights) moved the whole lot from djangoCMS to Drupal [08:16] schestowitz-TR in the process we passed around 100GB od data [08:17] schestowitz-TR guess what colleagues suggested for passing that data ;-) [08:17] schestowitz-TR these "stfu n00b" moments make you wonder if it's a liability to stay in the company [08:17] schestowitz-TR of course they also put all that client's password sin lastpass! [08:17] schestowitz-TR *passwords [08:27] schestowitz-TR draft [08:27] schestowitz-TR (would rather not think about the sad state of our company; I have so many more rants in store) [08:27] Techrights-sec2 checking [08:27] Techrights-sec2 has the EPC actually been abolished or is the EPO merely illegally acting as [08:27] Techrights-sec2 such? [08:28] schestowitz-TR you could say that it is treated as no longer applicable [08:28] schestowitz-TR formally, however, they just break the law [08:28] schestowitz-TR and promise to "amend" the law some time in the unspecified fuiture [08:35] schestowitz-TR extending the text to clarify further [08:36] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:36] Techrights-sec2 Might add that the EPC is not a simple recommendation or guideline but an [08:36] Techrights-sec2 international treaty with the full weight of that kind of agreement, to [08:36] Techrights-sec2 rub in the contempt the current EPO management has for international law. ● Jun 15 [09:17] schestowitz
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    How To Find Large Files on Linux
    [09:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tomshardware.com | How To Find Large Files on Linux | Tom's Hardware [09:17] schestowitz
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    Weve all got to that point on a given system where we start to run out of storage space. Do we buy more storage, perhaps one of the best SSDs, or do we search and find the largest files quickly? In this how to we will look at a few simple approaches to help us maintain and manage our filesystems.

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    All the commands in this article will work on most Linux machines. Weve used a Ubuntu 20.04 install but you could run this how-to on a Raspberry Pi. All of the how-to is performed via the Terminal. If youre not already at the command line, you can open a terminal window on most Linux machines by pressing ctrl, alt and t.

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    Revealed: Our Plans For Thunderbird On Android
    [09:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.thunderbird.net | Revealed: Our Plans For Thunderbird On Android [09:21] schestowitz
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    To that end, were thrilled to announce that today, K-9 Mail officially joins the Thunderbird family. And cketti has already joined the full-time Thunderbird staff, bringing along his valuable expertise and experience with mobile platforms.

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    Ultimately, K-9 Mail will transform into Thunderbird on Android.

    That means the name itself will change and adopt Thunderbird branding. Before that happens, we need to reach certain development milestones that will bring K-9 Mail into alignment with Thunderbirds feature set and visual appearance.

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    Attempting to create an aesthetic global line breaking algorithm
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    As you can easily tell, line breaks made at the beginning of the chapter affect the potential line breaks you can do later. Sometimes it is worth it to make a locally non-optimal choice at the beginning to get a better line break possibility much later. Evaluating a global metric like this can be potentially slow, which is why interactive programs like LibreOffice do not use this method.

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    The classical way of solving this problem is to use dynamic programming. It has the requirement that the problem must conform to a requirement called the Bellman optimality condition (or, if you are into rocketry, the Pontryagin maximum principle). This is perhaps best illustrated with an example: suppose you are in Paris and want to drive to Venice. This requires picking some path to drive that is " [09:24] schestowitz optimal" for your requirements. Now suppose we know that Zrich is along the path of this optimal route. The requirement basically says, then, that the optimal route you take from Paris to Zrich does not in any way affect the optimal route from Zrich to Venice. That is, the two paths can be routed independently of each other. This is true for the basic form of Knuth-Plass line breaking.

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    It is not true for line breaking in practice.

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    Getting feedback on Teaspoon Languages from CS educators and researchers at the Raspberry Pi Foundation seminar series
    [09:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-computinged.wordpress.com | Getting feedback on Teaspoon Languages from CS educators and researchers at the Raspberry Pi Foundation seminar series | Computing Education Research Blog [09:26] schestowitz
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    In May, I had the wonderful opportunity to speak at the Raspberry Pi Foundation Seminar series. Ive attended some of these seminars before. I highly recommend them (see past seminars here). Its a terrific format. The speaker presents for up to a half hour, then everyone gets put into a breakout room for small group discussions. The participants and speaker come back for 30-35 minutes of intensive [09:26] schestowitz Q&A at least, it feels intensive from the speakers perspective. The questions you get have been vetted through the breakout room process. Theyre insightful, and sometimes critical, but always in a constructive way. I was excited about this opportunity because I wanted to make it a hands-on session where the CS teachers and researchers who attended might actually use some Teaspoon Languages and give me feedback on them. I have [09:26] schestowitz rarely had the opportunity to work with CS teachers, so I was excited for the opportunity.

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    Stop #DataRetention: Experts find systematic disregard of Court decisions
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    A new generation of data retention laws threatens the fundamental rights of millions of citizens in the European Union. While the EU Court of Justice permits blanket data retention only exceptionally, these laws by their very nature aim to collect communications data from virtually the entire population. This new generation of data retention legislation insists in turning the exception of mass [09:29] schestowitz surveillance into the rule. The panel highlights for example what the concept of targeted data retention actually means and how dangerous the systematic collection of IP addresses is.

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    The speakers call on the European Commission and the governments of the EU countries to stopthis concept of mass surveillance throughout the EU, and to respect the Courts rulings.

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  • ● Jun 15 [10:15] Techrights-sec2 router maintenance [10:19] Techrights-sec2 maintenance complete (afaik) [10:22] schestowitz
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    The European Commission threatens to undermine the core values of the free and open [Internet]
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    The proposal will harm freedom of expression, freedom to access knowledge, and freedom to conduct business and innovation in the EU. It will hurt Europes [Internet] economy and create unprecedented bureaucratic barriers that will slow growth in a recovering economy. Thats why 34 civil society organisations urge Commissioner Vestager and Commissioner Breton to challenge the short-sighted and self- [10:22] schestowitz interested demands of the telecom industry and to ensure a free and open [Internet].

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  • [10:37] schestowitz-TR there is a heat wave heading our way [10:37] schestowitz-TR wttr.in says 28c Friday noon time [10:37] schestowitz-TR good that I have two large doors near me, but that might not help enough [10:37] schestowitz-TR maybe we'll "escape" (bike trip) [10:37] schestowitz-TR that's one way to avoid the worst hours [10:38] Techrights-sec2 a fan of some kind might help, it might be too late to shop for one but [10:38] Techrights-sec2 once the heat starts it will certainly be too late [10:43] schestowitz-TR IBM keeps laying off many of its most talented and skilled workers while advancing the same old lie about shortages https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-talent-shortage-challenges-and-how-solve-them [10:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | 3 IT talent shortage challenges and how to solve them | The Enterprisers Project [10:45] schestowitz-TR Here is Red Hat (IBM) promoting the "Great Resignation" mythology while sacking its workers and making life more miserable for people https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/automation-employee-experience [10:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | Using automation to improve employee experience | The Enterprisers Project [10:52] schestowitz-TR this shitty mythology is VERY VERY important to tackle because afaik almost nobody else questions it [10:52] schestowitz-TR it has long been a "theory" in general, not in tech [10:52] schestowitz-TR it's very obvious in tec [10:52] schestowitz-TR if worker lacks some skill, they can train for it [10:52] schestowitz-TR but it's used as a pretext to get "fresh" workers on low-end salaries and shitty contract [10:53] schestowitz-TR we can identity this as a risk [10:53] schestowitz-TR along with NDAs [10:53] schestowitz-TR and media control [10:53] schestowitz-TR making notes for myself... ● Jun 15 [11:07] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4epsgicfemkk8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 15 [12:55] Techrights-sec2 TM was sluggish but seems to have recovered on its own ● Jun 15 [13:01] schestowitz-TR it has been running the ddos protection script for a bit [13:01] schestowitz-TR crude draft, working on something in GIT [13:01] schestowitz-TR draft [13:01] schestowitz-TR in GIMP, not GIT [13:09] Techrights-sec2 ack [13:09] Techrights-sec2 checking [13:09] Techrights-sec2 s/a threat/threats/ [13:22] schestowitz Legal Issues, Comms, Proprietary Software [13:22] schestowitz Media consolidation [13:22] schestowitz Misinformation [13:22] schestowitz AstroTurfing [13:22] schestowitz EULAs [13:22] schestowitz Reseller invasion [13:22] schestowitz "Defend" budget/graft [13:22] schestowitz NDAs [13:22] schestowitz CFAA/DMCA/Legal bullying [13:22] schestowitz Patented territory [13:23] schestowitz-TR thanks, corrected [13:23] schestowitz-TR I will use different colour tones (not red) for other silos, using xcf format to make editing a little simpler [13:23] schestowitz-TR I do graphics/drawing as a hobby, was never a professional [13:25] schestowitz Media consolidation/bribes [13:25] schestowitz Misinformation/advertising [13:25] schestowitz AstroTurfing/trolling [13:25] schestowitz Lobbying/law-buying [13:25] schestowitz EULAs/Tos/Imposed consent [13:26] schestowitz Resellers' invasion [13:26] schestowitz "Defence" budget/graft [13:26] schestowitz NDAs (disclosure/disparagement) [13:26] schestowitz CFAA/DMCA/Legal bullying [13:26] schestowitz Patented territory [13:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:44] schestowitz-TR added coc [13:47] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/threats-diagram-v2.jpg [13:47] schestowitz-TR I think media ownership covers the lies about "shortages" and such [13:47] schestowitz-TR along with other problems [13:50] Techrights-sec2 ack [13:50] Techrights-sec2 the diagram is too crowded / cluttered for other than internal reference [13:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:54] schestowitz-TR "June is usually a very wonderful month for me. It's even better when your mind isn't being plagued by the misery and pessimism of the modern web and social media" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1014 ● Jun 15 [14:09] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Jun 15 [17:48] schestowitz-TR Michael Larabel has officially joined the anti-Linux FUD club (also blaming Go, for totally ludicrous reasons) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Akamai-Security-Panchan [17:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Akamai Warns Of "Panchan" Linux Botnet That Leverages Golang Concurrency, Systemd - Phoronix [17:53] Techrights-sec2 :( [17:53] Techrights-sec2 I don't suppose Larabel has much of a chance at this point of regaining his lost [17:53] Techrights-sec2 audience; microsofters won't have much use for him either so it is not likely [17:53] Techrights-sec2 that his site will be around much longer [17:53] Techrights-sec2 I hope the important old stuff is archived properly ● Jun 15 [18:05] schestowitz-TR experiment I am unable to do [18:05] schestowitz-TR fetch number of posts in Fedora Planet [18:05] schestowitz-TR get number of posts each month [18:05] schestowitz-TR shows what happens around the attack on centos [18:05] schestowitz-TR more difficult: separate posts from IBM staff... and non-staff [18:09] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:09] Techrights-sec2 from what I read, IBM staff shilled there filling part of the volume lost [18:09] Techrights-sec2 when the community was dispersed [18:09] schestowitz-TR [16:34] HP gives a whole lots of vloggers laptops as bribes for "reviews"; bloggers also https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8502 [18:10] schestowitz-TR [16:37] It'll be hard to know if this product is genuinely good as all the reviewers so far are bribed https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AtdwHv30XkY [18:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | If you're thinking of buying an HP Dev One, watch this video first. - Invidious [18:11] schestowitz-TR "Your friend the Linux gamer" (he likes to say that) [18:11] schestowitz-TR a friend of his sponsors [18:11] schestowitz-TR I keep saeeing only reviews from gifted b/vloggers [18:11] schestowitz-TR but the rest get "preorders" and stand in line [18:11] Techrights-sec2 he used to, i'm not sure if he says that any more since selling out some monts [18:11] Techrights-sec2 months ago [18:14] schestowitz-TR warpping up for daily links shortly [18:14] schestowitz-TR I won't be doing videos on the hp thing [18:14] schestowitz-TR it would be better to focus on the greater abuses [18:14] schestowitz-TR also, I did not cover the security fud [18:14] schestowitz-TR as that would give it more expsosure [18:14] schestowitz-TR we're waiting for more epo material [18:25] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:33] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:40] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 15 [19:11] Techrights-sec2 https://text.npr.org/999343673 M$ has NPR completely gloss over the anti-trust [19:11] Techrights-sec2 violationg, which occured repeatedly and over many years [19:11] Techrights-sec2 In fact, NPR's article didn't even hint at them let alone mention them [19:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Internet Explorer, the love-to-hate-it web browser, has died at 26 [19:11] schestowitz-TR Let them keep nbusy at covering up for Bill's crimes [19:12] schestowitz-TR NPR has been dead to me for ages [19:13] Techrights-sec2 yes his crimes via M$ and via his personal life ... [19:13] Techrights-sec2 It died around 2002 / 2003 AFAIK [19:14] schestowitz-TR Like many orgs, it is milking the old brand, diluting the credibility [19:14] schestowitz-TR eff, lf, splc, moz... [19:15] Techrights-sec2 this is probably what mobilized the microsofters to attack: [19:15] Techrights-sec2 https://web.archive.org/web/20100622050538/http://www.ur.umich.edu/9899/Oct14_98/16.htm [19:15] Techrights-sec2 yes, the old brand had credibility and quality that the existing institution [19:15] Techrights-sec2 has failed to live up to for well over a decade [19:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | NPR to distribute ‘Todd Mundt Show’ [19:17] Techrights-sec2 splc was actively subverted; I suppose the EFF and the others have been too [19:17] Techrights-sec2 more or less [19:19] schestowitz-TR lf is one of the reasons many of us say "gnu" and not just "linux" [19:19] schestowitz-TR the word "linux" is now associates with not-so-positive things [19:19] schestowitz-TR we know who stands to gain from it [19:19] schestowitz-TR the other day I saw a ehadline saying "Microsoft Linux" [19:20] schestowitz-TR it was referring to that very okld "|mariner" crap (years old; only Microsoft uses it) [19:20] schestowitz-TR Michael keeps giving it a mention [19:20] schestowitz-TR like.... wtf? There are a ton of distros out there, made by determined single-person team [19:20] schestowitz-TR [16:44] No, Michael, people don't go to Phoronix for Microsoft news and Vulkan is an enemy to Microsoft https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Dzn-Vulkan-1.1-Nears [19:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft's "Dozen" Prepares For Vulkan 1.1 Support - Phoronix [19:20] schestowitz-TR [17:56] Come on, Michael. 1) this is NOT about Linux (they'll push this with WINDOWS). 2) you are presenting this as an ad. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Arc-A380-China [19:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel Arc A380 Desktop Graphics Launch In China - Phoronix [19:21] Techrights-sec2 yes and they used to be instrumental in advancing knowledge of the benefits [19:21] Techrights-sec2 of the GPL instead of spreading disinformation about it [19:21] schestowitz-TR [19:10] Linux Foundation is in bed with Linux-hostile and anti-Linux companies. ONE MUST REMEMBER THIS. [19:22] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:24] schestowitz-TR but the upside is, more and more people talk about the LF the way we do [19:24] schestowitz-TR and the LF is on the run, in fact it seems quite a few staff have left [19:43] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:43] Techrights-sec2 on the run is merely adequate, reform or dissolution is necessary [19:43] Techrights-sec2 preferably reform [19:44] schestowitz-TR same as Novell in 2007 [19:44] schestowitz-TR many left [19:44] schestowitz-TR inc. PR head [19:44] schestowitz-TR sellout is widely know as a TEMPORARY and not a sustainable gain [19:44] schestowitz-TR like selling on'es blood, to borrow PJ's anbalogy [19:45] Techrights-sec2 Sadly, that's probably accurate [19:45] Techrights-sec2 that is the goal, I would say. Fool people into making a fatal change [19:45] Techrights-sec2 while appeasing complete idiots by saying it is a gain [19:45] Techrights-sec2 blood is renewable if harvested at a rate lower than at which it is replenished [19:45] Techrights-sec2 kidneys are not nor are other organs [19:45] Techrights-sec2 marrow is kind of renewable but very inconvenient and painful to harvest [19:45] Techrights-sec2 I suppose it could be sold too [19:46] schestowitz-TR I don't know that part of the anatomy very well, but the point PJ made did not bother with that level of granularity [19:46] schestowitz-TR she also blasted LF for allowing Novell in [19:46] schestowitz-TR Novell! [19:46] schestowitz-TR Look who's in LF NOW [19:46] schestowitz-TR I cannot recall her saying much about Nokiasoft [19:49] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:52] schestowitz-TR I am going to update the wiki with the latest chart (jpeg, the source has transleuncy) [19:52] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:52] Techrights-sec2 charts are best as GIF of PNG though [19:52] Techrights-sec2 indexed color in charts saves a lot of space [19:54] schestowitz-TR seeing that it would be (imho) foolish to blast hp/system76 or give visibility to sec FUD, I will focus on EPO the rest of the night until mey 1am shift [19:54] schestowitz-TR indexed color is good when you don't use shadows and the chart is now >1000px in size [19:54] schestowitz-TR wavelets make this file smaller while it's work in progress [19:55] Techrights-sec2 JPEG tends to have horrific compression artifacts visible in charts, graphs, [19:55] Techrights-sec2 diagrams, logos, and icons :/ [19:56] schestowitz-TR yes, wavelets are based on observations in photographs of natural things [19:56] schestowitz-TR but there too there is loss, it's just harder to detect [19:56] schestowitz-TR biab ● Jun 15 [21:20] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4epsgicfemkk8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:25] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 15 [22:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:26] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell