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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MistyHa01259914/status/1217598332505292802\Jan 16 00:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MistyHa01259914: @schestowitz @trolltrip Maybe we should all just get a Mac.Jan 16 00:31
schestowitzmany of the same issues, but a different brandJan 16 00:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Charbrevolution/status/1217602092812115969Jan 16 00:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Charbrevolution: @schestowitz They knew but didn't careJan 16 00:32
schestowitzuntil this became a >public< issueJan 16 00:32
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schestowitzRe: More Devuan censorshipJan 16 02:54
schestowitz> Quote: (Me)Jan 16 02:54
schestowitz> It is funny. Whatever error you encountered (Again, I think I found that one a year or so ago) it should be gone now. Proxies and other addresses are loading.Jan 16 02:54
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> I can access via a proxy, but directly. I see the "dubious" message if I access via HTTP and the connection reset if I try HTTPS. This is from work, from home I can access it with no problems. I don't think I've ever actually posted the site from home however... in fact I'm 99% sure I haven't.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> I easily found a thread at dev1 which confirms that the SSL problem is really a spam blacklist, as suspected... https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=xxxxJan 16 02:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=xxxx )Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> In the case of that OP, I'd suspect that it was probably a case of 'someone' adding an IP to that supposedly "fully automated" "barrier"...Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Also a thread at the "palemoon" forum from a locked out user.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> In both cases, I think they were apparently unfortunate victims of the spam countermeasures. They talked about various browsers, but they also talked about tor and it's likely that tor usage would be a big flashing alarm for whatever you use - so it's possible they were simply unfortunate false positives.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> However in my case, it's not a shared, dynamic address which is being blocked - it's a static address, which is allocated to a company and which would never be used by anyone else and which is not located in any "suspicious" part of the world and which would never be sending spam or anything "dubious" and which doesn't in fact feature on any public blacklists visible on the web... hence I think it's deliberate and I can see the humour Jan 16 02:55
schestowitzin that.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> My last post at dev1 was in April last year. I left around that time and about a month before that had clashed with golinux at DUF:Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> http://www.debianuserforums.org/view...p=xxxxxJan 16 02:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://www.debianuserforums.org/view...p=xxxxx )Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> I noticed the "error" very soon after that time. At the time I just dismissed it, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense and comes across as the kind of thing she would do...Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> It doesn't bother me at all - it intrigues me somewhat and of course further confirms my beliefs that she is a rather resentful and spiteful control freak.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Quote:Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> So few people over there understand these things. I admit, if I were in charge of it some things would throw me as well. But they've got someone who isn't technical in charge, which makes absolutely no sense-- except that's just how they roll.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> They've got someone, who is both not technical and not really ethical at all and is very much "do as I say, not as I do", who preaches and removes, censors and harasses perceived threats.Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> Jan 16 02:55
schestowitz> I see my "censorship" as just part of that expected behaviour...Jan 16 02:55
schestowitzRe: Fwd: Software patents in ChinaJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> My Chinese friend Feynman LiangJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> <https://bastianbest.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=faf780d7e9e9d15d30e763ed6&id=9c3eb1fed7&e=4906b2581c> toldJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> me that the Chinese Patent Office has updated its Guidelines for PatentJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> Examination, including some changes for inventions involving algorithmJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> features and business rules.Jan 16 03:03
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:03
schestowitz> As far as I understand these guidelines, *subject-matter eligibility* isJan 16 03:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.innotrack.cn | Feynman LIANGJan 16 03:03
schestowitz> tested in two steps:Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz>  1. Does the claim include technical features?Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz>  2. Does the claim recite technical means adopted to solve a technicalJan 16 03:04
schestowitz>     problem?Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Concerning *inventive step*, if the algorithmic features of the claimJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> contribute to the technical solution, they have to be considered in theJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> inventive step assessment.Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> To me, this sounds very similar to the German framework for assessingJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> computer-implemented inventions. In Germany, we also have a *two-stepJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> eligibility test* (in contrast to the EPO’s more pragmatic “anyJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> hardware” approach), and inventive step can be based only on theJan 16 03:04
schestowitz> technical part of the claim.Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> The amendments will enter into force on 1 Feb 2020.Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> Cheers,Jan 16 03:04
schestowitz> xxxxJan 16 03:04
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schestowitzI got alerted about TM b y email.Jan 16 08:08
schestowitzI could ssh to get prompted for a password, but then it would not accept anything I put it. It'd just freeze. The site was not accessible and HV showed very high CPU usage on then VM.... very odd.Jan 16 08:08
schestowitzAnyway, I had to reboot it.Jan 16 08:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hm_belcher/status/1217655084605030400Jan 16 08:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hm_belcher: BILL GATES DEEPLY CORRUPT... MY EXPERT WITNESSES WILL BE FILING OUR COMPLAINTS IN A COURT DOCK ET https://t.co/JfTYr0T6OkJan 16 08:49
schestowitz"Jan 16 08:49
schestowitzBILL GATES DEEPLY CORRUPT...Jan 16 08:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Bill Gates Deeply Corrupt Not Just in Education Sector | TechrightsJan 16 08:49
schestowitzMY EXPERT WITNESSES WILL BE FILING OUR COMPLAINTS IN A COURT DOCK ETJan 16 08:49
schestowitz"Jan 16 08:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1217722029308182529Jan 16 08:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @zoobab @schestowitz Did the video from https://t.co/NO6SYXvwSw come online?Jan 16 08:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> events.ccc.de | Session:NO Unitary Software Patents - 36C3 WikiJan 16 08:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MistyHa01259914/status/1217630188638355456Jan 16 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MistyHa01259914: @schestowitz @trolltrip I'm not too surprised. Thank you.Jan 16 08:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1217733260232609792Jan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @samvittighed @schestowitz It was not recorded, but we mostly talked about the points of the petition… https://t.co/SBVQuG0irSJan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @samvittighed @schestowitz It was not recorded, but we mostly talked about the points of the petition… https://t.co/SBVQuG0irSJan 16 09:52
schestowitz"It was not recorded, but we mostly talked about the points of the petition http://blog.ffii.org/manifestation-contre-le-brevet-logiciel-unitaire-jeudi-12-decembre-a-bruxelles/ … Still need a proper english translation, I am working on it."Jan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.ffii.org | Manifestation contre le Brevet Logiciel Unitaire, jeudi 12 décembre à Bruxelles | Blog.FFII.orgJan 16 09:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1217745582850301952Jan 16 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz #IllGates! 😄 🖥️🤒😜🤪Jan 16 09:53
schestowitzoops :-)Jan 16 09:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/django_stiglitz/status/1217748410582753281Jan 16 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@django_stiglitz: @schestowitz I grew up with 1.44 MB diskettes. You shook be able to fit one wepage on a diskJan 16 10:22
schestowitzto read this article, which is 4 paragraphs long, please enter disk #2 (out of 10). Estimated time to load: 3 hours.Jan 16 10:23
schestowitz"Jan 16 10:46
schestowitzold: #evangelicals #antichristJan 16 10:46
schestowitzhttps://benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/Jan 16 10:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.benjaminlcorey.com | Could American Evangelicals Spot the Antichrist? Here Are the Biblical Predictions: - Benjamin L. CoreyJan 16 10:46
schestowitz#benjaminlcorey ... long readJan 16 10:46
schestowitzi have read it - interestingJan 16 10:46
schestowitz"Jan 16 10:46
schestowitzresponseJan 16 10:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2Fflandro/status/1217763162725998593Jan 16 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz BREAKING: Bernie Sanders field operative exposed as radical eco-fascist, demands mass killings of cons… https://t.co/Vd7nDD6d3wJan 16 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz BREAKING: Bernie Sanders field operative exposed as radical eco-fascist, demands mass killings of cons… https://t.co/Vd7nDD6d3wJan 16 11:50
schestowitz"BREAKING: Bernie Sanders field operative exposed as radical eco-fascist, demands mass killings of conservatives to save “the entire human race” and “planet Earth” – video"Jan 16 11:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1217763570273918977Jan 16 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Can be a struggle. See also for extensions... https://t.co/LfekmJLRscJan 16 11:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.privacytools.io | PrivacyTools - Encryption Against Global Mass SurveillanceJan 16 11:50
schestowitz"Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzA referral to the Enlarged Board of Appeal is misplaced to say the least. There are a plurality of reasons for this.Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzThere is a large body of case law according to which the transfer of the priority right has been assessed by the Board and the way the Opposition Division has used it is clearly following this case law. There is no divergent case law, hence no need to address the Enlarged Board.Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzThe interpretation by the proprietors of “any” person is biased to say the least. When looking at the raison d’être of the priority right, is to avoid self-collision, not to avoid prior art made public in the priority interval by the applicant himself, should its priority not be valid. This is exactly what happened here. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitz“A” person having filed a first application in a member state of the Paris Convention, can file a further application claiming priority of the original application. If “a plurality of persons” have filed a first application, the priority right can only be exercised by the same plurality of persons in a subsequent filing. At least the rights of all the original applicants should have been transferred to the subsequent applicant. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzIf it would be accepted that only part of the persons having filed a ´first application would be allowed to file a subsequent application, this would amount to a perversion of the priority right. One of the original applicants could simply decide to file a subsequent application with the other applicants being left to claim property of the subsequent application once filed. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzThere is also a danger that the subsequent patent could be revoked at national level. Art 138 (1,e) provides that a patent can revoked if the proprietor of the European patent is not entitled. By not mentioning all the applicants in the original applicant in the priority application, the subsequent patent could thus be endangered. It is however correct that only an applicant having been squeezed out could request such a revocation.Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzThe problem at stake is only occurring due to some idiosyncrasies of US legislation with respect to provisional applications. If an exception would be made for US applicants as far priority is concerned, it would also derogate to the second pillar of the Paris Convention, i.e. that all applicants have to be treated on a par. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzIf the ecxeption would be valid for US applicants, I see in it a further manifestation of extra-territoriality of US law. The rest of the world, especially Europe is suffering enough from the extensive application of US law abroad, which is actually merely used to get read of competition and nothing else. Enough is enough. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzIt is to the USA to make their legislation in accordance with the general principles of priority which are existing long enough, and not to other patent offices to follow US legislation. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzThe question at stake is certainly not a question of fundamental importance, as it boils down to act in favour of certain applicants stemming from the US. The case is important as a lot of money at stake, but this is not a criterion on which a referral should be based.Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzIf the Board would be referring a question to the Enlarged Board, one could also consider that the referring Board is chickening out from taking its responsibilities in view of existing case law. It would simply take into account the important financial impact of an adverse decision for the applicant’s money, but this is not an argument which should bother the Board. Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzShould nevertheless a referral to the Enlarged Board occur, I hope that the latter would dismiss the referral as not admissible. Enough reasons have been given above here.Jan 16 13:22
schestowitz'Jan 16 13:22
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/01/crispr-hearing-days-2-3-board-of-appeal.html?showComment=1579158662348#c638343834580622722Jan 16 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | CRISPR hearing days 2-3: Board of Appeal poised to refer to the EBA? - The IPKatJan 16 13:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/invictusjuvat/status/1217890783342272513Jan 16 22:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@invictusjuvat: @simonkidwell @shaunattwood @bbc5live @tonylivesey @chriswarburton_ Mansion of Pedophilia – Part I: Bill Gates Has… https://t.co/mPi0aObvH5Jan 16 22:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@invictusjuvat: @simonkidwell @shaunattwood @bbc5live @tonylivesey @chriswarburton_ Mansion of Pedophilia – Part I: Bill Gates Has… https://t.co/mPi0aObvH5Jan 16 22:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TallElfin/status/1217912545857691649Jan 16 22:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TallElfin: @schestowitz What's a "Chromebook"? :DJan 16 22:23
schestowitzLike a "Mac" Book, just some laptop with brandingJan 16 22:24
MinceRnot all of them are as low quality as "mac" books though :>Jan 16 22:28
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