●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 ●● ● Feb 16 [01:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [01:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [02:33] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [02:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [02:49] *rianne_ has quit (Client Quit) [02:49] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [03:24] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:31] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [03:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [04:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:27] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● Feb 16 [05:56] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [05:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [07:17] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:17] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:28] schestowitz__ > Hi Roy [07:28] schestowitz__ > Thanks, and I appreciate you removing the politics from the image, and [07:29] schestowitz__ > crediting, but it looks like I've done a terrible job on the art now, [07:29] schestowitz__ > lol. Fresh version attached, incase original lost, and definitely using [07:29] schestowitz__ > a layer over any original art makes it really easy to edit and re-use [07:29] schestowitz__ > lots of times. If the present image can be removed/replaced, that would [07:29] schestowitz__ > be awesome. Hope the fresh upload is helpful, and thanks again. [07:29] schestowitz__ Cheers, I will reupload now. [07:29] schestowitz__ By the way, weeks ago my wife asked if she can buy art from you. She really loves your work and wants to pay for it. Is that something you would do? [07:51] schestowitz__ x https://www.dawn.com/news/1607524/china-makes-fight-against-climate-change-more-affordable-for-world-bill-gates [07:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dawn.com | China makes fight against climate change more affordable for world: Bill Gates - World - DAWN.COM [07:51] schestowitz__ # more bill sez [07:51] schestowitz__ = [07:51] schestowitz__ http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202102/15/WS6029d4f8a31024ad0baa8fb0.html [07:51] schestowitz__ # bill sez [07:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.chinadaily.com.cn | China makes fight against climate change more affordable for world: Bill Gates - Chinadaily.com.cn [07:53] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [07:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [08:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:32] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [08:41] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:43] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/weaponizedword1/status/1361560744362446849 [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weaponizedword1: The video in this link is 38 seconds long and very important. Bill Gates and his return on vaccines https://t.co/adbZtwtHLR [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weaponizedword1: The video in this link is 38 seconds long and very important. Bill Gates and his return on vaccines https://t.co/adbZtwtHLR [08:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [08:43] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/weaponizedword1/status/1361556567993245696 [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weaponizedword1: HUGE Index on the kind of Human Being Bill Gates really is.... https://t.co/l9vXyPosVB [08:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [08:48] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:57] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 16 [09:06] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:37] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #boycottnovell [09:57] Techrights-sec I'm still not finding my way around Git yet. [09:57] schestowitz__ Maybe one day there will be a truly decentralised, p2p system for those sorts of things. svn and cvs did not last very long [09:58] schestowitz__ ot; rianne and I think we can afford to retire in 2-3 years, then focus entirely on our sites, but at times like these with unpredictable economies it's hard to set anything in stone ● Feb 16 [10:20] Techrights-sec early retirement is good, if there is enough saved to keep up with the rate of [10:20] Techrights-sec inflation [10:20] schestowitz__ seems like job prospects are not great, either, esp. for those who risk losing what they have ● Feb 16 [11:14] schestowitz__ irc 16/2 logs ready, maybe forgotten about... [11:16] schestowitz__ " [11:16] schestowitz__ the overarching political ideology afflicting as good as all parties in [11:16] schestowitz__ all countries has been to do the opposite of investing. They whittle away [11:16] schestowitz__ at what's left. Industry is even worse. [11:16] schestowitz__ " [11:32] Techrights-sec Ooos. I'll check on the iRC logs [11:32] Techrights-sec Ok. All set/ [11:32] Techrights-sec 2017 is in place now too [11:32] schestowitz__ is it worth producing gemini howtos? [11:34] schestowitz__ does the front page/index page have the option to scan for past years and add to the index their monthly archives? I've just tested that those pages are, indeed, accessible [11:34] Techrights-sec For the site, I've been adding notes and refactoring when I can. [11:34] Techrights-sec There's not much to say but to point to the page about the file specification. [11:34] Techrights-sec That would be for the site. Then agate or another server would be covered [11:34] Techrights-sec elsewhere [11:35] schestowitz__ All that I can say about agate was already covered elsewhere [11:35] schestowitz__ I just spent 10 minutes checking how to make animated gifs. In the process I broke webcamoid and had to use apt to fix it, which took a while... [11:36] Techrights-sec Yes, anything can be added to the front index, that is in gemini-main-index-template.sh [11:36] Techrights-sec However, the index should not get cluttered, Maybe a second index of [11:36] Techrights-sec *everything* should be in a second page? [11:36] schestowitz__ yes, I realised it would become way too long with all those past years, not sure what hierarchy would suit visitors best and didn't manage to find software for in-capsule search [11:37] Techrights-sec HOWTO in which context? [11:41] Techrights-sec I think some kind of hierarchy of pages might be best for navigation. [11:42] schestowitz__ I am trying to think of tricks for pseudo-search, or offline searches, but wiki pages are more effective at this ● Feb 16 [12:00] Techrights-sec Is there something like CGI? [12:00] Techrights-sec Looking at the spec there is an option for input. [12:00] schestowitz__ Yes, the most basic such option [12:03] schestowitz__ we have been added to gemini://geminispace.info index. I am looking for examples, working examples, of in-capsule search. It's hard to find docs on "gemini" as it's a widely used term [12:04] Techrights-sec Maybe it could be a one-field input for a local filesystem search, [12:04] Techrights-sec there used to be something called glimpse but there is probably something [12:04] Techrights-sec better now. [12:04] Techrights-sec Good, being in the index with raise visibility further. [12:05] Techrights-sec Yes, the term is rather common and thus difficult to search for. [12:08] schestowitz__ I can barely find even simple examples of POST/input/user query [12:14] Techrights-sec Would any of the contacts doing indexing have tips? [12:14] schestowitz__ I prefer not to 'bother' them if I can locate something online, but I think such a form would also be valuable for other things, esp. if we want to avoid spam/bots [12:19] schestowitz__ getting closer, but still no working example of query interfaces https://www.susa.net/wordpress/2020/06/gemini-protocol-markup/ https://samsai.eu/post/introduction-to-gemini/ [12:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.susa.net | Gemini Protocol & Markup SusaNET [12:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-samsai.eu | Introduction to Gemini and the Small Internet [12:40] schestowitz__ The more I look into it, the less convinced I become that POST is supported at all (some say it is not). I looked at the original spec, too, and I cannot find where it says that it supports it. Some site let you search (GUS for example) and I saw games over gemini that do the same, but maybe it it beyond the standard ● Feb 16 [19:47] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/SayNO2SugarNOW/status/1361693322306289670 [19:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SayNO2SugarNOW: https://t.co/MSBqf5Ecos https://t.co/wj4mHuWc1G [19:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Latest Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates Explores His Latest Vaccine Profiteering Drive | Techrights [19:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weaponizedword1: The video in this link is 38 seconds long and very important. Bill Gates and his return on vaccines https://t.co/adbZtwtHLR [19:48] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/L824824179/status/1361672838529351682 [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@L824824179: Who owns the media, owns the power on ppl's mind WORLDWIDE 2011 https://t.co/kk7PD8DgX7 2014 https://t.co/ESYUwxCXgb [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | BBC Bribed by Bill Gates | Techrights [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@L824824179: Who owns the media, owns the power on ppl's mind WORLDWIDE 2011 https://t.co/kk7PD8DgX7 2014 https://t.co/ESYUwxCXgb [19:48] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/PaprikaLady/status/1361620526670741504 [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PaprikaLady: @clim8resistance Wired is owned by Cond Nast, a longtime Microsoft whitewashing tool. Attacks on Free/libre softwa https://t.co/VvCf30V3td [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PaprikaLady: @clim8resistance Wired is owned by Cond Nast, a longtime Microsoft whitewashing tool. Attacks on Free/libre softwa https://t.co/VvCf30V3td [19:48] schestowitz__ "Wired is owned by Cond Nast, a longtime Microsoft whitewashing tool. Attacks on Free/libre software and propagandised coverage of Microsoft now the standard practice (or consensus) at Cond Nast" [19:49] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/everton137/status/1361610398986866694 [19:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@everton137: Finally, someone saying it. https://t.co/UAI0Zn1H5y [19:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #monopolies #monopoly Opinion | Big Pharma Must Share Their Vaccine Knowledge and https://t.co/mqJO2NOFhb [19:50] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/trolltrip/status/1361594871698481162 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@trolltrip: #regolith #3dprinting https://t.co/rOr0yamdML [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #MintPressNews #DARPA DARPA's New Space Program Stirs Worldwide Concern https://t.co/g5RXEFkxMi [19:50] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/1361559402222936066 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Started my explorations with Mandrake [19:50] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1361376324066115593 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Link? [19:50] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/mfioretti_en/status/1361365908594167813 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mfioretti_en: dear @mcclatchy , @IdahoStatesman, @ChristinaLords ... were alternatives like #libreoffice by @tdforg REALLY igno https://t.co/LmagjhSWc2 [19:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mfioretti_en: dear @mcclatchy , @IdahoStatesman, @ChristinaLords ... were alternatives like #libreoffice by @tdforg REALLY igno https://t.co/LmagjhSWc2 [19:50] schestowitz__ " [19:50] schestowitz__ dear @mcclatchy [19:50] schestowitz__ , @IdahoStatesman [19:50] schestowitz__ , @ChristinaLords [19:50] schestowitz__ ... [19:51] schestowitz__ were alternatives like #libreoffice by @tdforg [19:51] schestowitz__ REALLY ignored in this story? If yes, why? [19:51] schestowitz__ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/02/what-deserves-firing-asking-for-excel-or-ignoring-the-alternatives/ [19:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stop.zona-m.net | What deserves firing? Asking for Excel, or ignoring the alternatives? | Stop at Zona-M [19:51] schestowitz__ " [19:51] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/1361319998384463879 [19:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz Pretty impressive. I like the privacy features. Thanks Roy ● Feb 16 [20:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Feb 16 [21:13] *gry has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:14] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #boycottnovell [21:51] *randomgry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #boycottnovell [21:54] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:56] *randomgry is now known as gry