●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 16, 2022 ●● ● Jul 16 [00:43] schestowitz-TR Online Negativity Is A Form of Virus gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077 well, the world ain't perfect, right? The oligarchs's publishers like to pretend new jobs are everywhere and oligarchs are heroes [00:43] schestowitz-TR "Reddit, I'm convinced, is one of the worst websites ever created" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077 [00:44] schestowitz-TR very read-worthy rant there about Reddit [00:44] schestowitz-TR I hope it'll die soon ● Jul 16 [01:02] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [02:14] *chunky (~chunky@wa5c3nj9mkua2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:53] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 16 [03:11] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:11] *rianne (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:12] *schestowitz (~roy@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [03:32] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 16 [04:42] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [07:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 16 [09:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:22] Techrights-sec I see the regex in the mockup is mangling apostrophes. looking... [09:22] Techrights-sec Not sure, can't duplicate it even when pasting from the original TM post [09:22] Techrights-sec Found some other stuff though. [09:22] Techrights-sec . [09:22] schestowitz-TR ota [09:23] schestowitz-TR rianne is now connected to the machine using my username and via my machine as a brdfidge [09:23] schestowitz-TR shell shall be [09:23] schestowitz-TR she shall be testing later for any feed bakc on the workflow [09:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:34] Techrights-sec thanks! [09:39] Techrights-sec ssh -J [09:39] Techrights-sec ? [09:39] Techrights-sec The ProxyJump option is very useful [09:40] schestowitz-TR no, we use -J at work to replay keys [09:40] schestowitz-TR for this one I could just do 2 hops manually [09:40] schestowitz-TR as she is using my keys [09:40] schestowitz-TR *relay [09:41] schestowitz-TR ssh -At can also be usedful [09:41] schestowitz-TR for the agent to pass on the key [09:41] schestowitz-TR but I'm not sure if it's the same or beign deprecated or... [09:41] schestowitz-TR I stoped watching buf reports of openssh over RSS feeds ;-) [09:41] schestowitz-TR *bug [09:42] Techrights-sec -A has more or less been deprecated by -J though, there are big risks with -A [09:42] Techrights-sec when passing through untrusted machines. That's not the case here but in [09:42] Techrights-sec general -J is the way to go. If you do have to ever do agent forwarding through [09:42] Techrights-sec an somewhat untrusted machine, then it is possible to fire up a one-off agent [09:43] Techrights-sec just for that one key so that all your other keys don't get sucked along into [09:43] Techrights-sec the questionable system. [09:45] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [09:45] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:45] *schestowitz (~roy@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:45] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [09:45] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [10:00] schestowitz [10:00] schestowitz > , youd also probably advise against it. This is because we [10:00] schestowitz I am tempted to use this for a publication, but need your permission. [10:03] schestowitz Re: legal eagles [10:03] schestowitz > Countdown... the WIPO panel is supposed to deliver a verdict before 19 July. [10:03] schestowitz > [10:03] schestowitz > During my year at NUS, Varghese was president. He is Melbourne [10:03] schestowitz > Uni alumnus like Assange [10:03] schestowitz > [10:03] schestowitz > I ran against Varghese and Eckersley in the student elections. Varghese [10:03] schestowitz > only beat me with a handful of preferences from Eckersley. [10:03] schestowitz > [10:03] schestowitz > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Blackburn_(law_firm) [10:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Maurice Blackburn (law firm) - Wikipedia [10:04] schestowitz > [10:04] schestowitz > Last time I saw Eckersley was DebConf16 in Heidelberg. [10:04] schestowitz > [10:04] schestowitz > Another Melbourne alumnus is in the news... what do you make of this, an [10:04] schestowitz > Australian has been appointed Professor of Computer Science at Oxford. [10:04] schestowitz > Phil founded the NLP group at DeepMind. [10:04] schestowitz > [10:04] schestowitz > https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/news/2012-full.html [10:04] schestowitz I thought Varghese used to cover sports or something. [10:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cs.ox.ac.uk | Two new Professors of Computer Science [10:04] schestowitz Same person? [10:15] schestowitz
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    People are realizing now: wait a minute, literally everything we do is underpinned by Linux, says Dave Aitel, a cybersecurity researcher and former NSA computer security scientist. This is a core technology to our society. Not understanding kernel security means we cant secure critical infrastructure.

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    Now DARPA, the US militarys research arm, wants to understand the collision of code and community that makes these open-source projects work, in order to better understand the risks they face. The goal is to be able to effectively recognize malicious actors and prevent them from disrupting or corrupting crucially important open-source code before its too late.

    [10:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | The US military wants to understand the most important software on Earth | MIT Technology Review [10:15] schestowitz

    DARPAs SocialCyber program is an 18-month-long, multimillion-dollar project that will combine sociology with recent technological advances in artificial intelligence to map, understand, and protect these massive open-source communities and the code they create. Its different from most previous research because it combines automated analysis of both the code and the social dimensions of open- [10:15] schestowitz source software.

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    IPTraf-ng A Console-Based Network Monitoring Tool
    [11:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tecmint.com | IPTraf-ng - A Network Monitoring Tool for Linux [11:12] schestowitz
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    IPTraf-ng is a console-based Linux network statistics monitoring program that shows information about IP traffic, which includes information such as:

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    The IPTraf-ng utility can be used to find out the type of traffic on your network, and what kind of service is the most heavily used on what systems, among others.

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[11:30] Techrights-sec either via gemini:// or ssh:// [11:31] schestowitz-TR works ok from my end [11:31] schestowitz-TR will check from your home network over ssh tunnel [11:32] schestowitz-TR I can reach the gemini https proxy from your home network [11:32] schestowitz-TR if there is a downtime I get red warnings here [11:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/joneidj2/status/1548078360978329602#m [11:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- 2 (@joneidj2): "/ : . . https://bit.ly ● Jul 16 [12:01] Techrights-sec ok seems to work now, but not a few minutes ago [12:01] Techrights-sec puzzling [12:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:07] schestowitz-TR maybe ISP or somwwhere in bwteeen [12:07] schestowitz-TR maybe outsourced to for-profit companies that aren't even cable companies [12:07] schestowitz-TR these days many underwater cables are laid out by or for surveillance companies [12:07] schestowitz-TR from some country I cannot remember... but I think it's 31 trillion in debt [12:07] schestowitz-TR trying to drink the ocean with everything in it [12:07] schestowitz-TR my ad just told me indian had surpassed china's population size [12:07] schestowitz-TR based on some estimate or census [12:07] schestowitz-TR and yet we hear of "chinese" minorities [12:08] schestowitz-TR "indian" minorities [12:08] schestowitz-TR and "muslim" (not race or nation) [12:08] schestowitz-TR minority [12:08] schestowitz-TR Muslim+Chinese+Indian (little overlap, except in India) must be the majority of the world's population [12:08] schestowitz-TR at around 4.5 billion and rising [12:08] schestowitz-TR EU is about 300+ million [12:08] schestowitz-TR US 330+so-called "illegals" [12:08] schestowitz-TR I never heard tech companies calling for diversity in chinese or indian companies [12:08] schestowitz-TR where very few managers are "white" [12:08] schestowitz-TR but the scenario is similar for mulslim-majority countries where x-0ians are persecuted [12:08] schestowitz-TR and sometimes prosecuted, lynched, stones [12:08] schestowitz-TR *dtoned [12:08] schestowitz-TR *stoned [12:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:22] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: no, i stand by the classification of sweden and norway due to demographic [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: trendds [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: thailand is also having trouble with "insurgents" and thus, I presume, also [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: squatters [12:30] Techrights-sec otr; I left the US off the list on purpose [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: yazidi and sikhism were also found in the middle east. [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: at this point chaldeans exist only outside the middle east, too, like [12:30] Techrights-sec otr: many of the yazidis [12:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 16 [13:55] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [13:59] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [14:03] schestowitz-TR Micrsooft is an ongoing diaspora [14:03] schestowitz-TR the company used to hire loads of people [14:03] schestowitz-TR I had spoken to my dad for a long time, then slept [14:03] schestowitz-TR until now [14:03] schestowitz-TR catching up [14:03] schestowitz-TR one point wqe agree on is speculation in trhe economy (so-called) [14:03] schestowitz-TR the gist of it is, [14:03] schestowitz-TR there's brainwash for people to "invest in the market" [14:03] schestowitz-TR when he was young it was unthinkable [14:03] schestowitz-TR now everyone ties savings to the infantile delusion some companies are worth trillions [14:03] schestowitz-TR and they use this fake valuation pattern [14:03] schestowitz-TR to use the SAVERS' money [14:04] schestowitz-TR (in effect gambling budget) [14:04] schestowitz-TR to buy other companies [14:04] schestowitz-TR and pretend to be worth more [14:04] schestowitz-TR corporate imperialism of sorts [14:04] schestowitz-TR madofff sceme [14:04] schestowitz-TR microsoft: we are worth trillions, invest in us, we'll pay you back more [14:04] schestowitz-TR then the company ios just some ticker/symbol [14:04] schestowitz-TR for people to speculate with/on [14:04] schestowitz-TR and they go on a rampage [14:04] schestowitz-TR like buying github and game studios [14:05] Techrights-sec ack [14:05] Techrights-sec M$ hires loads of student researchers, effectively for marketing from the [14:05] Techrights-sec ground up to poison the computing environments at major univerisities [14:05] Techrights-sec World-wide, the world's major universities had *far more* functionality [14:05] Techrights-sec than is available now. Nothing has replaced the combination of [14:05] Techrights-sec LDAP, Kerberos, AFS, and e-mail. Most universities no longer even have e-mail [14:05] Techrights-sec having 1) only a "webmail" interface to 2) either Google or M$ [14:05] Techrights-sec Mojang was one of M$ more destructive purchases. Minecraft was a vehicle for [14:05] Techrights-sec introducing a whole generation to GNU/Linux and IMO the purchase was made [14:05] Techrights-sec to put an end to that. [14:05] Techrights-sec s/functionality/functionality back in the 1990s/ [14:06] schestowitz-TR our company used to eb like that [14:06] schestowitz-TR be clown this, clown that [14:06] schestowitz-TR I open my mouth a lot more these days [14:06] schestowitz-TR because I want to get out [14:06] schestowitz-TR by the end of the year [14:07] Techrights-sec ack [14:07] Techrights-sec though really it would be best in the big picture for the company to shape up [14:07] Techrights-sec and ditch the clown computing and some of the clowns which pushed for it [14:10] schestowitz-TR "the threesome" [14:10] schestowitz-TR remember [14:10] schestowitz-TR theLiar does not understand computing [14:10] schestowitz-TR so it has become a vertical issue [14:10] schestowitz-TR where the wrong people are listened to [14:10] schestowitz-TR usually in the (fake) name of "savings" [14:11] schestowitz-TR the AWS bill climbed to about $1000 a month [14:11] schestowitz-TR for just a few instances [14:11] schestowitz-TR we used to have a whole rack with machines on it [14:11] schestowitz-TR every xmas instead of giving the staff a little bonus they give amazon voucher [14:11] schestowitz-TR of course I never used mine [14:11] schestowitz-TR but they basically think this is ethical [14:11] schestowitz-TR maybe there is some kickback-like deal associated with that [14:11] schestowitz-TR I don't follow how these "gift" cards work and why simply giving cash is not a thing [14:12] Techrights-sec yes and the bullshitters generally are not measured by accomplishment of any [14:12] Techrights-sec tasks and thus spend the day lobbying and schmoozing [14:12] Techrights-sec For that money you really could buy and operate a full rack of reasonable [14:12] Techrights-sec hardware. [14:12] Techrights-sec :( [14:12] Techrights-sec barf [14:12] Techrights-sec AFAIK I have never purchase from Amazon [14:12] Techrights-sec I plan to keep it that way [14:15] schestowitz-TR "barf" indeed [14:15] schestowitz-TR it's like they make it complusory for you to choose bad v endors [14:15] schestowitz-TR and basically tell you HOW or WHERE to spend "your" moneyh [14:15] schestowitz-TR imagine salaries giving in this form [14:15] schestowitz-TR about 8 or 9 years ago they "rewarded" me for good work by sending me a "gift" [14:15] schestowitz-TR card for "ASDA" [14:15] schestowitz-TR it was already Waltons-owned, I call it Walmart UK [14:15] schestowitz-TR it can be used to purchase food [14:15] schestowitz-TR but the logistics of sending that card from london area wwere tiring to mer [14:15] schestowitz-TR very time-consuming [14:15] schestowitz-TR they could instead just top up my bank account [14:15] schestowitz-TR but this idiocy of sending bits of plastic as "voucher" and paying for stampings, doing manual work etc. [14:15] schestowitz-TR just show you the defective thinking/mindset [14:16] Techrights-sec yes a cash bonus would have less stigma [14:16] Techrights-sec it's attaching strings to the money [14:16] Techrights-sec "eat a bug and say you don't like it" for us [14:23] schestowitz-TR on the issue of econoym based on gambling with savers' money (never mind putting people in debt, i.e. creating "demand" based on borrowings from a dire future) [14:23] schestowitz-TR some years ago I was bothered on the phone by this speculator the bank tried to hook us up with [14:23] schestowitz-TR to "invest" our money [14:24] schestowitz-TR we got him off our back at the end [14:24] schestowitz-TR my dad says they keep bothering him [14:24] schestowitz-TR becauase he does not "invest' the money [14:24] schestowitz-TR we agree our whole economy is now based on people throwing everything into the hat [14:24] schestowitz-TR so they can double- or -treble-gamble [14:24] schestowitz-TR like, we have X money [14:24] schestowitz-TR let's lend out x10 the money we "have" [14:24] schestowitz-TR "have" = some people gave us trheir money to "invest" [14:24] schestowitz-TR and that sums up why this is a shit economy that already exploded badly in 2008 and now we blame "war" and "covid" [14:24] schestowitz-TR as if it was a matter of bad timing or misfortune [14:24] schestowitz-TR btw, I will send you parts 9-10 shortly (epo) for backup [14:24] schestowitz-TR it's VERY much connected to it [14:24] schestowitz-TR if you've followed the series [14:24] schestowitz-TR bubble makers as "financia experts" [14:24] schestowitz-TR fucking stupid piece of shit idiots [14:24] schestowitz-TR people whose skills is lyin g and lying and luying [14:24] schestowitz-TR and manipulate at other people's expense [14:24] schestowitz-TR like examines who sold their sold to that shitty german org [14:24] schestowitz-TR thinking they're just be doing "ecoademia" but for much better pay [14:24] schestowitz-TR (not limited to EPO BTW, hence the importance, it happens in other orgs, but we don't have their data) [14:26] Techrights-sec "invest" has morphed into being an euphemism for high risk gambling [14:26] Techrights-sec yes and no manufacturing to speak of [14:26] Techrights-sec ack [14:26] Techrights-sec if things go well, it is obviously because of wise choices and good ideas, [14:26] Techrights-sec if things go poorly, it is obviiously because of external factors [14:26] Techrights-sec those experts aren't any better than that hamster was [14:26] Techrights-sec in fact the hamster had a better track record for being right than they do [14:26] schestowitz-TR > "invest" has morphed into being an euphemism for high risk gambling [14:26] schestowitz-TR \my dad lost ALL his money in 2008 [14:26] schestowitz-TR even had to get help from a cousin to be 'rescued' [14:26] schestowitz-TR he won't let that happen again [14:29] Techrights-sec :( [14:29] Techrights-sec ack [14:29] schestowitz-TR money generqally loses value over time [14:29] schestowitz-TR and they use that to promote gambling now [14:29] schestowitz-TR but, ime, the best panacea is learning to reduce expenses to a bare minimum [14:29] schestowitz-TR and geta ccustomed to it [14:29] schestowitz-TR I will shave shortly, it'll be dry shave while reading a book [14:29] schestowitz-TR every pound saved is several minutes earned for free time -- i.e. liberty to engage in an activity one chooses [14:29] schestowitz-TR not "busy making money" [14:29] schestowitz-TR BTW, did you see the video I made about css changed that I had applied? [14:29] schestowitz-TR the video was not aboiut the css, that was junk tinkering a bit to 'beatify' it [14:29] schestowitz-TR with no images added [14:30] Techrights-sec no, I check the texts when possible but check very few of anybody's videos [14:30] Techrights-sec per week [14:30] Techrights-sec Some CSS skill is needed to get past the barrier with the columns for the [14:30] Techrights-sec mobile devices. I am taking another look at that soon. [14:40] schestowitz-TR we don't even know how many access the site with "mobile" [14:40] schestowitz-TR i imagine not THAT many people [14:40] schestowitz-TR as desktop gnu/linux enthusiats "get work done"(TM) [14:40] schestowitz-TR and don't sip $7 latte at gatesbucks [14:40] schestowitz-TR (i'm no js or css guru, but I know without js it is possible to serve different css files to device types, like "mobile", "print" etc) [14:40] schestowitz-TR (the practice, hoeever, is based on poor initial design or flawed thinking) [14:40] schestowitz-TR (like having twoi faceplates for the same phone for "different occasions") [14:42] Techrights-sec it's more the principle of the matter. the layout should be more flexible [14:42] Techrights-sec that it is in regards to wrapping columns or whatever the process is called [14:42] Techrights-sec CSS is fine, for the most part, but a far cry from back when Bos and the others [14:42] Techrights-sec were working on it. It's becoming overly complicated. JS however has always [14:42] Techrights-sec been poxy [14:42] Techrights-sec The only "mobile" aspect is to have it look / function nicely with a narrow [14:42] Techrights-sec window in portrait mode rather than the usual wide window in landscape mode [14:44] schestowitz-TR structurally I made no changes at all [14:44] schestowitz-TR but I think ;enrolling' some files in git is well overdue now [14:44] schestowitz-TR esp. if we start making changes on some of the same files [14:44] schestowitz-TR I made a full local backup of that dir last night [14:44] schestowitz-TR both rianne and I are connected to it atm [14:44] schestowitz-TR I am poting daily links, then have some epo stuff to publish [14:44] schestowitz-TR I am always pleased to cover epo issues because [14:44] schestowitz-TR 1) it's the same as in many other places [14:44] schestowitz-TR 2) it's clear enough and has evidence [14:44] schestowitz-TR 3) it's connected to other orgs, so we expose them too (several bird,s, one stone) [14:47] Techrights-sec ... so that both work [14:47] Techrights-sec I'll add Git next week then. [14:47] Techrights-sec Thanks, testing like that helps [14:47] Techrights-sec excellent; I know I keep repeating myself but the EPO coverage is *very* [14:47] Techrights-sec important [14:47] Techrights-sec ack [14:47] schestowitz-TR i'll keep quiet here to avoid geting ditracted while doing daily links [14:47] schestowitz-TR i find it suppppper distracting to work after I speak on the phone with someone [14:47] schestowitz-TR so must alloicate time and take a nap or break afterwards [14:47] schestowitz-TR (IME) [14:52] schestowitz-TR oh, one thing I noticed yesterday is, [14:52] schestowitz-TR implicit paragraphs by linebreaks of empty lines [14:52] schestowitz-TR drupal and wordpress convert new paragraphs into

    without having to enter these for each para [14:52] schestowitz-TR in the current cms there is no such insertion [14:52] schestowitz-TR so all the paras appaear as one block [14:52] schestowitz-TR not sure if there is a simple fix for it, as when you enter daily links [14:53] schestowitz-TR maybe even htmltidy has some functionality to that effect [14:53] schestowitz-TR it has become so common just not in markdown but so many cms software [14:53] schestowitz-TR that m,any people no longer even think they ned to explicitly mark the paras ● Jul 16 [15:00] Techrights-sec a substitution could check for double linebreaks and convert them to paragraphs [15:00] Techrights-sec tidy doesn't have that functionality but it can be added into the perl script [15:00] Techrights-sec afaik [15:05] schestowitz-TR btw, as per your links, lunduke has abadoned the onlyfans model after halving the price and now "unlocks" videos he [15:05] schestowitz-TR had recorded and published for ALL half a decade ago [15:05] schestowitz-TR nothing wrong witrh it per se, did he learn to self-host his videois at long last? [15:05] schestowitz-TR he deleted ALL the odysee videos (some we linked to, now broken) and almost all youtube videos [15:05] Techrights-sec whatever, I'm just glad he's covering important topics at least occasionally [15:06] schestowitz-TR i put his sjvn-callout-thingie in front page of tuxmachines [15:06] schestowitz-TR today I did not add new nodes to the test site so far [15:06] schestowitz-TR will wait until further changes are made [15:06] schestowitz-TR rianne finished work in 3 hours, can post to new and old in tandem [15:06] schestowitz-TR *finishes [15:07] Techrights-sec figuring out the regex for the above [15:08] schestowitz-TR I did perl one-line to convert two newlines into none [15:08] schestowitz-TR do you want me to find it? [15:08] Techrights-sec it's three lines ;) [15:08] Techrights-sec It's all set, testing atm [15:08] Techrights-sec biab [15:12] Techrights-sec looks like it works [15:12] Techrights-sec I just added today's leftovees [15:12] schestowitz-TR looks like it works [15:12] schestowitz-TR I just added today's leftovees [15:15] schestowitz-TR oddly enough, in firefox, despite the

    [15:15] schestowitz-TR it still shows the lines and paragraphs combined as one blocked [15:15] schestowitz-TR maybe a css properlty [15:38] Techrights-sec continuing now [15:38] Techrights-sec ok finding a way to insert the pattern into the work flow [15:38] Techrights-sec the addition script will insert

    where multiple blank lines are found [15:38] Techrights-sec if the text is *not* part of an element already [15:38] schestowitz-TR does that show up ok in chromium-derived browsers? [15:38] schestowitz-TR in firefox it ignores this [15:42] Techrights-sec [15:42] Techrights-sec no I know nothing about Alpine atm [15:45] schestowitz https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/perl [15:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packages [15:45] schestowitz-TR also, do we know for sure alpine has the requirded packages/deps? [15:45] schestowitz-TR https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/perl [15:55] schestowitz-TR i assume cpan can have them, no apt-get [15:55] schestowitz-TR not sure what command on the hv (alpine) can show available modules [15:56] Techrights-sec checking [15:56] Techrights-sec $ awk '/^use/ {sub(";",""); print $2;}' /usr/local/bin/*.pl | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ' [15:56] Techrights-sec 5.32.1 CGI CGI::Carp CGI::Fast Data::Dumper Date::Calc DBI English File::Copy File::Path File::Temp Getopt::Std HTML::Entities HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath HTTP::Response::Enco [15:56] Techrights-sec ding IO::Socket::SSL LWP::UserAgent strict Time::ParseDate Time::Piece URI URI::Escape utf8 warnings XML::Feed [15:56] Techrights-sec more correctly: [15:56] Techrights-sec $ awk '/^use/ {sub(";",""); print $2;}' /usr/local/bin/tm-*.pl /usr/local/bin/rss-since-scraper.pl | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ' [15:56] Techrights-sec Data::Dumper Date::Calc DBI English File::Copy File::Path File::Temp Getopt::Std HTML::Entities HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath HTTP::Response::Encoding LWP::UserAgent strict Time [15:56] Techrights-sec ::ParseDate Time::Piece URI URI::Escape utf8 warnings XML::Feed [15:56] Techrights-sec the alpine link there is just to perl itself, not the modules [15:57] schestowitz-TR we've not chosen an OS yet [15:57] schestowitz-TR also, fs repair is due first [15:58] Techrights-sec some might be there, not sure about all, [15:58] Techrights-sec https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=perl-dbi&branch=edge&arch=x86_64 [15:58] Techrights-sec there's one [15:58] Techrights-sec and another: [15:58] Techrights-sec https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86_64/perl-time-parsedate [15:58] Techrights-sec Alpine or Devuan are fine, so is OpenBSD [15:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packages [15:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packages ● Jul 16 [16:28] schestowitz if you look at n/2022/07/16/embedded.shtml [16:28] schestowitz the source looks ok with

    but it's rendered as one block [16:28] schestowitz I'm not sure why [16:29] schestowitz the second item is "glandium.org Blog Archive Announcing git-cinnabar 0.5.9" [16:29] schestowitz the arrows get encoded incorrectly, maybe at the level of nano or db [16:34] schestowitz-TR going to nap for a bit [16:34] schestowitz-TR got permission from microsofter to publish an expose ● Jul 16 [17:13] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:14] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [17:52] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [17:53] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [18:28] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:55] schestowitz-TR oh, excellent [18:55] schestowitz-TR now it has worked correctly [18:55] schestowitz-TR the new paragraphs, latest node added :-) [18:56] schestowitz-TR I see you are improving "Other Sites" too [18:56] schestowitz-TR it looks better now, the size was too large before, for syndicated stuff [18:56] schestowitz-TR marius is now aware of upcoming change [18:57] Techrights-sec excellent [18:57] Techrights-sec trying too, it still has a way to go [18:57] Techrights-sec LWN feed is mostly unavailable [18:57] Techrights-sec The column still needs to move itself when the window narrows enough [18:57] Techrights-sec I hope Marius can test at some point, I don't want to bother him yet at the [18:57] Techrights-sec same time it is important to get feedback as early as possible. Maybe after [18:57] Techrights-sec the update script is added? [18:57] Techrights-sec That's great news. [18:57] schestowitz-TR kaniini plans to work on the FS tonight, details in main channels (scrollback ~40 mins ago) [18:58] Techrights-sec Checking... [18:58] Techrights-sec amfora has no search function afaik [18:58] schestowitz-TR END, PAGEUP, PAGEUP... [18:59] Techrights-sec yes that's the method I use too but pressing / and then a string or ? and then [18:59] Techrights-sec a string is faster [18:59] Techrights-sec but doesn't work in amfora ● Jul 16 [19:00] schestowitz-TR these days I only use amfora for monitoring [19:04] schestowitz-TR fwiw, we now have 3 series running in parallel, not time-critical [19:04] schestowitz-TR 2 are about microsoft [19:04] schestowitz-TR 1 epo [19:04] schestowitz-TR all of theem present new information [19:04] schestowitz-TR I'm copying parts 9-10 now [19:04] schestowitz-TR done [19:04] schestowitz-TR *(odf) [19:04] Techrights-sec good [19:04] Techrights-sec EPO is most important but microsoft never stops being a problem [19:05] schestowitz-TR had techrights now been around, or groklaw for that matter, the bullshitters [19:05] schestowitz-TR would face little resistance and maybe more people would have accepted [19:05] schestowitz-TR "ok", maybe "Microsoft isn't that bad anymore.." [19:21] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:25] Techrights-sec ack [19:25] Techrights-sec too many people are still pushing that talking point, 'maybe "Microsoft isn't that bad anymore..' even though they should know better. Judging by current [19:25] Techrights-sec and ongoing behavior they have not changed at all since the old days [19:27] schestowitz-TR there must be some formal name for this phenomenon, which gets exploited by the guilty [19:27] schestowitz-TR including billG [19:27] schestowitz-TR "been a while since a bomb fell here, maybe I should look at the field ahead from my trench" [19:27] schestowitz-TR "BOOM!" [19:27] schestowitz-TR "oops, shit, wrong call, keep hiding" [19:31] Techrights-sec revisionism? [19:31] Techrights-sec well there is a complete and utter bullshit rhetorical method: [19:31] Techrights-sec https://blogs.helsinki.fi/pirttila/files/2008/08/The-Hamburger-method-of-constructive-criticism.pdf [19:31] Techrights-sec that people feel compelled to teach regardless of its inutility, and as a side [19:31] Techrights-sec effect people try to use it, and as a side effect of that people lie or mislead [19:31] Techrights-sec in order to try to dredge up a compliment even when none is available [19:32] schestowitz-TR in political discourse it is a foprm of opportunism [19:32] schestowitz-TR a week or so ago in IRC I joked about thw word "reasonable" [19:32] schestowitz-TR and gave SJVN as an example [19:32] schestowitz-TR before he wrote BS about Copilot (zdnet) and then MSFT (El Reg) [19:32] schestowitz-TR See? [19:32] schestowitz-TR RMS is "OK" with MSFT [19:32] schestowitz-TR says SJVN [19:32] schestowitz-TR SJVN is nice [19:32] schestowitz-TR we are all "toxic" [19:32] schestowitz-TR "hateful" [19:32] schestowitz-TR and some peoplke try to advance this way [19:32] schestowitz-TR SFC did this to FSF [19:32] schestowitz-TR several times over [19:32] schestowitz-TR Oliva LXO challenged them directly on it [19:32] schestowitz-TR using optics and POR to gain advantage [19:32] schestowitz-TR *PR [19:33] Techrights-sec https://lifehacker.com/stop-using-the-sandwich-method-to-give-feedback-1776592001 [19:33] Techrights-sec SJVN's latest piece is full of factual errors, he's not even trying any more :( [19:33] Techrights-sec About one of the only major mistakes RMS has made in his public life was to [19:33] Techrights-sec visit Redmond. [19:33] Techrights-sec ack [19:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lifehacker.com | Stop Using the "Sandwich Method" to Give Feedback [19:33] Techrights-sec https://developerhood.com/blog/hamburger-isnt-a-suitable-shape-for-feedback/ [19:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hamburger Isnt a Suitable Shape for Feedback - Developerhood [19:33] Techrights-sec . [19:34] schestowitz-TR "In my humble opinion paying cash is a nice puzzle piece of resistance. I routinely pay cash for almost everything, that I buy locally. I have bought a number of fairly expensive things (for my personal definition of fairly expensive, that is) and payed several of them cash, e.g. a new motorcycle" gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220716-re-cash-ocalypse.gmi [19:34] schestowitz-TR "I've been, stupidly, using an email account that came with a free web page account. I figured - what harm could it be, it's free, it's been around... Now I want to get rid of it, but I am away from home, and there are some accounts I can't access to update the email address... So I am stuck." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmi [19:34] schestowitz-TR --> britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [19:34] schestowitz-TR "Top shows that, running in the background with automatic email fetching shut off -- in other words, doing absolutely nothing -- it eats up about 5% CPU and 5% memory. That is a ridiculously large fraction of my machine -- for doing absolutely nothing. I have 8GB RAM), so the sleeping beauty needs 400 MB to do nothing. Is this a bad joke?" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmi [19:37] britney schestowitz-TR, ? [19:39] schestowitz-TR what about, britney? [19:39] Techrights-sec ack [19:39] britney schestowitz-TR, why did you call my attention? [19:41] schestowitz-TR where? [19:41] schestowitz-TR oh, I ssee now [19:42] schestowitz-TR I copy-pasted 3 lines [19:42] schestowitz-TR one got inserted in the middle, the IRC "JOIN" [19:42] britney yeah i was wondering what was up lol [19:42] schestowitz-TR shring this over ytalk [19:42] schestowitz-TR there's a 'bridge' with IRC [19:43] britney fair enough [19:46] schestowitz-TR Gulag cannot wean itself off Linux and GPL, but it keeps trying https://9to5google.com/2022/07/15/android-removes-fuchsia-code-starnix/ [19:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Android removes Fuchsia code as Starnix project progresses - 9to5Google [19:55] Techrights-sec using SFTP for tm dump backups atm [19:55] Techrights-sec using SFTP fro tr dump backups atm [19:56] schestowitz-TR good, thanks, hopefully we won't need to recover anything. I think this would stop the dump errors among others. [19:56] schestowitz-TR and then we can have the fresh new OS and start deplying things ● Jul 16 [20:22] schestowitz-TR thinking aloud [20:22] schestowitz-TR we create new node [20:22] schestowitz-TR inotify ir similar updates html and gemtext and rss [20:22] schestowitz-TR my bot here needs tweaking to make the irc post with gemini url too [20:22] schestowitz-TR agate picks up the new gmi immediately [20:22] schestowitz-TR it runs on the domain name over default port, 1965 [20:22] schestowitz-TR from the server [20:22] schestowitz-TR could run on timers or triggers invoked manually [20:22] schestowitz-TR like afeter adding a node [20:22] schestowitz-TR if updates are done not directly to file but via interfaces, the right processes can be invoked too [20:22] schestowitz-TR https likely with self-signed cert, maybe not advertised by default [20:22] schestowitz-TR so as to avoid nasty warnings, albeit it's supported [20:23] Techrights-sec backed up, but not the public_html hierarchy, those would require rsync [20:23] Techrights-sec yes inotify would be good but is not available in this current architecture [20:23] Techrights-sec the scripts could trigger other scripts, yes [20:23] Techrights-sec it'd be a waste to have anything in cron though [20:24] britney schestowitz-TR, I wanted to ask you something. I know matey's opinion but I was wondering if you feel the same way. Can we trust FSF and GNU? [20:25] schestowitz-TR not in some sense [20:25] schestowitz-TR because they are brand [20:25] schestowitz-TR I trust rms [20:25] schestowitz-TR because it's a person, not a label [20:25] britney Matey threw around the label MS-GNU [20:26] schestowitz-TR that's an exaggeration [20:26] schestowitz-TR because of github [20:26] britney fair enough [20:26] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec: [20:26] schestowitz-TR yes, the cron thing was for testing [20:26] schestowitz-TR I notice that while the updaste scripts run the front page can be emptiess for a second or two [20:27] schestowitz-TR so interim file might be better [20:27] schestowitz-TR process-this-thhing.sh -> temp && cp temp live [20:27] schestowitz-TR maybe with sanity check like file size to ensure it doesn't fail to live [20:43] schestowitz-TR just noticed that about a day ago all new posts were "posted by" [20:43] schestowitz-TR without a name after that [20:43] schestowitz-TR not sure if suggestive of a new bug, thought I'd mention it [20:43] schestowitz-TR added drop cap effect for first letter, it's starting to look more like the drupal site, sans the bloat [20:43] schestowitz-TR and almost no images [20:54] schestowitz-TR > Many companies scam their own staff by tricking them into "investing" their salaries (savings) in the company, artificially inflating a fake valuation that's bound to collapse, along with financial rewards supposedly having been given to staff. It's like companies buying back their own shares -- a form of embezzlement. ● Jul 16 [21:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u584dpn9buscs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 16 [23:11] *britney has quit (connection closed) [23:12] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell