●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 16, 2022 ●● ● Oct 16 [00:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hi99dmvtfyew8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [02:22] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [02:29] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:32] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:44] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [03:12] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yt7zxu45ne39a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [04:25] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:27] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [05:55] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:55] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [06:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [08:09] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:38] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [09:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 16 [11:35] schestowitz-TR SarisGas and TheLiar did not worsen behavious of staff but did drive away some nicer people, so on average quiali [11:35] schestowitz-TR ty decreased [11:36] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:36] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [11:39] schestowitz-TR the hypothesis that skilled people follow killed people is common sense [11:39] schestowitz-TR doing (I guess surveys) work to prove that can help validate the assumptions [11:41] schestowitz-TR LOL Bryan Loca doing "Lifetime Subscription" [11:43] techrights-sec Yes, Bryan is getting weirder and weirder. It'd be ok if he produced some kind [11:43] techrights-sec of useful content along the way, like he used to, but it's substance-free at [11:43] techrights-sec this point. [11:49] techrights-sec Oh, wait, there is something from yesterday: he rips zdnet ... [11:53] schestowitz-TR if you mean the cartoon, he rips sjvn in The Register, not MSZDNet [11:53] schestowitz-TR and Lunduke himself is culpable with the "Linux sucks" BS [11:53] schestowitz-TR he uploaded another "Linux sucks" video to youtube this year [11:53] schestowitz-TR re that zdnet "year of desktop" article, which was actually SJVN in The Register [11:53] schestowitz-TR (maybe ZDNet turned down that article!) [11:53] schestowitz-TR I did not read it, I filed it low down in "today's leftovers" [11:53] schestowitz-TR so it's not unlisted but it won't get much traffic either [11:53] schestowitz-TR this morning I saw some decent linux site linking to TM [11:53] schestowitz-TR not sure since when... [11:53] schestowitz-TR if we post decent picks, people will, in due courts, appreciate it ● Oct 16 [12:01] schestowitz-TR oh, I see the article you mean now... not the cartoon [12:01] schestowitz-TR Yes, I wrote about this subject many times before [12:06] techrights-sec He provides some good details. [12:06] techrights-sec s/good/useful/ [12:07] schestowitz-TR vpn snakeoil is notorious for it [12:07] schestowitz-TR but even linux laptop companies do this [12:07] schestowitz-TR I've added this to TM [12:07] schestowitz-TR along with a new example of it in Also: ● Oct 16 [14:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 16 [15:15] schestowitz-TR COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/ [15:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers [15:16] schestowitz-TR nobody wants to say "vaccines" [15:16] schestowitz-TR nor do I think it's the culprit [15:16] schestowitz-TR maybe peple who recovered from it [15:16] schestowitz-TR afaik, aussie healthcare is not under attack like nhs [15:16] schestowitz-TR so looking across countries one can have a guess at the cause/s [15:18] techrights-sec https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1128692167/yankee-candle-review-amazon-covid-twitter-study-covid19-pandemic-biden [15:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.npr.org | What a viral study on Yankee candles can teach us about COVID data : NPR [15:18] techrights-sec NHS is under all kinds of attack, among other methods it is getting defunded [15:18] techrights-sec and then ridiculed in the press owned by opponenets of the NHS for being [15:18] techrights-sec underfunded. [15:19] schestowitz-TR does BillPR disclose that it is funded by COVID-19 profiteer? [15:19] schestowitz-TR or is this like the phenomenon lunduke ranted about? [15:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:31] techrights-sec NPR tends to avoid mentioning their conflict of interests in regards to that [15:31] techrights-sec particular funder. It certainly killed their technology and technology policy [15:31] techrights-sec coverage completely dead. [15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:32] schestowitz-TR unti l regimes bother to dtusy wth is going on AFTER the waves I'll stay parking [15:32] schestowitz-TR john reached the same conclusion as me compltely independently [15:32] schestowitz-TR based on the data [15:32] schestowitz-TR and asked the same questions [15:32] schestowitz-TR then a friend told me about him [15:32] schestowitz-TR BillPR and BillBC replaced tech coverage with namecalling ("conspiracy theorist") [15:32] schestowitz-TR namecalling is what one does when there's no argument to be made ● Oct 16 [16:49] schestowitz-TR australia's pop is not that large [16:49] schestowitz-TR and I don't know their public site well [16:49] schestowitz-TR I thought about downloading their data [16:49] schestowitz-TR to study, for the most part, excess death by age brackets [16:49] schestowitz-TR I'd rather focus on the data here [16:49] schestowitz-TR as I know it better [16:49] schestowitz-TR and know the language, units, conventions [16:49] schestowitz-TR turns out gulagtube recommended that same video to rianne [16:49] schestowitz-TR the algo feeds what she watches [16:49] schestowitz-TR yet she insists she is in control [16:49] schestowitz-TR because she chooses what to merely click on [16:49] schestowitz-TR this means that, irrespective of censorship, gulag is in control of what channels succeed and which ones fai [16:49] schestowitz-TR lor which topics perish [16:49] schestowitz-TR either deranked and given no incentive to produce (e.g. "Linux") [16:49] schestowitz-TR this is a dangerous level of control [16:49] schestowitz-TR when we had public TV it [16:49] schestowitz-TR 1) was not intentional [16:49] schestowitz-TR 2) was not a single company [16:49] techrights-sec :/ [16:49] techrights-sec Most peope, even intelligent, well-educated ones, don't understand algorithmic [16:49] techrights-sec manipulation. Pick a card, any card -- from this tiny subset ... [16:49] techrights-sec Twitter and the other social control media examples do that with whole topics [16:49] techrights-sec of discussion, not just "hashtags". [16:51] schestowitz-TR I protested a lot abotu 5 years ago when twitter was "becoming facebook" [16:51] schestowitz-TR and I explained why [16:51] schestowitz-TR I managed to filter that out or mitigate in a number of ways [16:51] schestowitz-TR but other people don't use it the same way [16:51] schestowitz-TR I can provide specifics if you are interested ● Oct 16 [17:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:04] techrights-sec It still comes down to people being shown a selected subset of material, [17:04] techrights-sec that in and of itself skews the situation. [17:04] schestowitz-TR right, so a two-level [17:04] schestowitz-TR culling of "Creators" and/or "Content" [17:04] schestowitz-TR then, deranking or shaddwbanning some [17:05] schestowitz-TR the term for this is "social engineering" [17:06] techrights-sec The order or sequence in which topics are shown matters *a lot* too, [17:06] techrights-sec not just stuff which falls off the end of the page, but also which items [17:06] techrights-sec are shown before other items. People have been shown to adopt positions based [17:06] techrights-sec on incomplete or downright wrong content posing as information. Then, once [17:06] techrights-sec their initial opinion has been shaped, almost all of them dig in and are [17:06] techrights-sec more or less immune to any subsequent data regardless of the accuracy or weight. [17:06] techrights-sec That would be one form of "social engineering" I guess [17:07] schestowitz-TR "OK, so that photo of the door was of a fake sign, but RMS is a pervert anyway..." [17:08] techrights-sec Basically [17:14] schestowitz-TR (NEW): Rant: wordpress & privacy - self hosted instances upload all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com imho without consent and no possibility to delete? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm [17:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm ) [17:20] techrights-sec ack [17:49] schestowitz-TR getting au data [17:49] schestowitz-TR 5 ooxml files [17:49] schestowitz-TR converting to odf [17:49] schestowitz-TR that alone would be a good service [17:49] techrights-sec ack [17:49] techrights-sec There are no ooxml just mso of some variant ● Oct 16 [18:05] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:35] techrights-sec Streaming javascript waste a lot of electricity [18:35] techrights-sec https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-elephants-feasts-giant-pumpkins-oregon-zoo-91486376 [18:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-abcnews.go.com | Video Family of elephants feasts on giant pumpkins at the Oregon Zoo - ABC News [18:43] schestowitz-TR thanks [18:43] schestowitz-TR will pass to rianne [18:44] schestowitz-TR I did two posts about aussia [18:44] schestowitz-TR it was not as interesting as I assumed [18:44] schestowitz-TR as only in 2022 the virus truly penetrated au and nz [18:44] schestowitz-TR which explains the surge [18:44] schestowitz-TR 2023 might be more interesting [18:44] schestowitz-TR AFTER it managed millions of people [18:48] schestowitz-TR rianne will try that link [18:48] schestowitz-TR I cannot play the video in falkon [18:48] schestowitz-TR or in librewold [18:48] schestowitz-TR it's 2022 and web videos don't work [18:48] schestowitz-TR unless you run a whole dedicate VM with proprietary programs [18:48] schestowitz-TR lovelt! 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