●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 16, 2022 ●● ● Dec 16 [01:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 16 [02:23] schestowitz-TR rust has a new release [02:23] schestowitz-TR either LT is brainwashed [02:23] schestowitz-TR or pressured to go along with it [02:23] schestowitz-TR I still see many downsides [02:23] schestowitz-TR only more and more over time [02:23] schestowitz-TR it seems they admit to have governance issue [02:23] schestowitz-TR and highly unstable APIs [02:23] schestowitz-TR aside from many other issues [02:25] techrightssec2 Probably pressured [02:25] schestowitz-TR JAVASCRIPT strikes AGAIN: "cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerability exists in the web interface" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-346-05 [02:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Siemens PLM Help Server | CISA [02:28] techrightssec2 Even all other factors aside, adding two languages means that efforts [02:28] techrightssec2 are split and that those that only know one are at a disadvantage because [02:28] techrightssec2 they only get half the picture, yet at the same time those that know both [02:28] techrightssec2 might not gain the advantage of focusing on one [02:30] schestowitz-TR LT said he had wasted ("spent") time studying rust [02:30] schestowitz-TR surely he had had better things to do [02:30] schestowitz-TR like learning new lang that's not even stabke... in his 50s [02:30] schestowitz-TR if rust goes titsup, linux needs to step in and adopt the darn github thing [02:30] schestowitz-TR or rewrite a ton of code under time constraints [02:30] schestowitz-TR rust needed linux more than linux needed rust [02:30] schestowitz-TR it's a marketing opportunity [02:30] schestowitz-TR rust was developed on gulag's payroll [02:30] schestowitz-TR on microsoft platforms [02:31] techrightssec2 That's another point, stability. [02:31] techrightssec2 C is quite stable and, more importantly, standardized. [02:31] techrightssec2 Yes, I think that is the point, Rust is exploiting Linux to give M$ more of [02:31] techrightssec2 a foothold in the programming market. [02:31] techrightssec2 s/if rust/when rust/ [02:33] schestowitz-TR rust won't live for 32 yeasrs like linus did [02:33] schestowitz-TR rust is already have severe internal issues [02:33] schestowitz-TR those are not even so well hidden [02:33] schestowitz-TR and the guy you linked to this week even admits this upfront at the start of his blog post [02:33] schestowitz-TR I forgot his name [02:33] schestowitz-TR linus and linux should have learned from the past SCM mistake [02:33] schestowitz-TR it was tridgell's mistake iirc (spelling) [02:34] techrightssec2 M$ coninutes to buy faculty menbers at and from universities using the bailout [02:34] techrightssec2 money and perhaps the debt it loads onto new acquisitions. [02:34] techrightssec2 Yes, rust appears not to be planned out beyond some basics [02:37] techrightssec2 https://doc.rust-lang.org/rustdoc/unstable-features.html [02:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-doc.rust-lang.org | Unstable features - The rustdoc book [02:41] schestowitz-TR rust as a while is not stables in the sense that things change too fast [02:41] schestowitz-TR so if I wrote x in rust, and then rust had new version, I'd have to spend time rewriting x as y [02:41] schestowitz-TR it's a waste of time [02:41] schestowitz-TR that's why i fell in love with bash [02:41] schestowitz-TR php and python change too fast [02:42] techrightssec2 PHP has had, or at least used to have, severe security holes built into the [02:42] techrightssec2 design; Furthermore, at its peak popularity many of the most touted functions [02:42] techrightssec2 were not complete enough to be usable; In contrast, the corresponding CPAN [02:42] techrightssec2 modules were not just complete but quite mature. [02:42] techrightssec2 at that time. [02:45] schestowitz-TR brb, a little overloaded atm [02:45] schestowitz-TR 6c indoors too [02:46] techrightssec2 too chilly for work at 6C, increase to at least 18C ● Dec 16 [03:09] schestowitz-TR eskimo clothing works ok [03:09] schestowitz-TR but the problem is the finger while typing (without hot drink) [03:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[05:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [05:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [05:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [05:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 16 [06:54] techrightssec2 I hope he buys Facebook next ● Dec 16 [07:18] schestowitz-TR sam varghese mia again [07:18] schestowitz-TR f [07:18] schestowitz-TR for nearly a month already [07:18] schestowitz-TR so all I see is LF puff piece and other worthless parrots [07:18] schestowitz-TR with zero critical skills or none they are permitted to exercise [07:29] techrightssec2 ack [07:29] techrightssec2 btw the IEEE link at 04:30 goes to an article relevant to patents, perhaps [07:29] techrightssec2 even sw patents. but the gist is that the patents were of no help to even [07:29] techrightssec2 a medium-sized company. only the largest have a war chest big enough to [07:29] techrightssec2 actually deal with infringers which are actually manufacturing something [07:29] techrightssec2 and not NPEs [07:29] techrightssec2 Sam has not been around much at IT Wire, and I can't really recall when he [07:29] techrightssec2 has last written. I suppose they are setting him aside. I would guess because [07:29] techrightssec2 they want to make room for the puff pieces and ads dressed up as articles. [07:30] schestowitz-TR so even attacking rms repeatedly was not good enough... [07:30] schestowitz-TR adveertisers want more [07:30] schestowitz-TR rianne says that in aussie there is ssome epstein scandal brewing [07:30] schestowitz-TR seems like media protects identities of the perverts [07:30] schestowitz-TR we need wikielaks [07:38] techrightssec2 ack [07:38] techrightssec2 Media protecting criminals [07:38] schestowitz-TR like alex graveley [07:38] schestowitz-TR because it would hurt microsoft's agenda [07:38] schestowitz-TR and its anti-gpl "hey hi" ● Dec 16 [08:03] techrightssec2 ack [08:29] techrightssec2 It seems that over the decades there are several interest backing m$ antics [08:29] techrightssec2 against software freedom, perhaps as part of a larger maneuver against [08:29] techrightssec2 freedom, education, and self-determination in general. [08:31] schestowitz-TR enemy of my enemy is my friene [08:31] schestowitz-TR gulag <3 microsoft [08:31] schestowitz-TR they both dislike gpl/copyleft [08:35] schestowitz-TR ...yeah, covid-19 totally over. rising by 28% in hospitalisations this past week (patients with covid) in England alone. The death tolls will be big when ONS gets around to it... [08:36] techrightssec2 Google built its empire on and because of the GPL so it is hypocritical of them [08:36] techrightssec2 to attack it, but given the large number of microsofters they have brought [08:36] techrightssec2 inside it is not a surprise just a disappointment ● Dec 16 [10:07] techrightssec2 ack [10:16] schestowitz-TR thanks for the info [10:16] schestowitz-TR many weather records broken this year in many areas [10:16] schestowitz-TR i think of that as stress-testing a number of things around the home (and work) [10:16] schestowitz-TR if we can cope with -8, then I reckon things are ok [10:16] schestowitz-TR the pipe that burst is apparently just the end/nozzle [10:16] schestowitz-TR so should be easy to re-attach/repair [10:16] schestowitz-TR i want to see ONS #s [10:16] schestowitz-TR for dec 5th-17th [10:16] schestowitz-TR more specifically mortality [10:16] schestowitz-TR we get figures now affirming very high hospital admission [10:16] schestowitz-TR being seriously ill is not an option at this time [10:22] schestowitz-TR the protein shakes seem to be helping with weight loss and rianne has not received reply to 3 out of 4 [10:22] schestowitz-TR tomorrow is my birthday, then we have lots of catching up to do [10:22] schestowitz-TR 36 cupcakes [10:22] schestowitz-TR /s/not/now/ [10:22] techrightssec2 good [10:22] techrightssec2 s/not/now/ ? [10:22] techrightssec2 Nice. What flavor? [10:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:25] schestowitz-TR the cupcakes are vanilla and choc [10:25] schestowitz-TR the shakes are strawberry and salted caramel [10:25] schestowitz-TR we'll check soon if we can get more of these [10:25] schestowitz-TR when I was young I rarely got these sorts of shakes [10:25] schestowitz-TR they are like 2 pounds a serving [10:25] schestowitz-TR in 2000 or so maybe 1 pound a serving [10:25] schestowitz-TR a can of tune was half the price and more protein [10:25] schestowitz-TR *tuna [10:26] techrightssec2 What are they made from? It might be possible to make something rather [10:26] techrightssec2 similar. [10:34] schestowitz-TR wow, the way things are going at twitter, maybe I'll soon detch tuxmachines's diaspora account from twitter [10:34] schestowitz-TR twitter is the "mainstream" gab [10:47] techrightssec2 It's getting that way. [10:47] techrightssec2 Remember that Musks financial backers also set Faux News on its feet and pointed [10:47] techrightssec2 in the direction it has traveled. [10:57] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/ [10:57] schestowitz-TR they should rewirte linux in pascal for transmeta arch [10:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights ● Dec 16 [11:02] schestowitz-TR i was messing about with javascript and to a lesser extent with vbscript (VERY little) more than 20 years ago [11:02] schestowitz-TR I lost interest for all sorts of reasons [11:02] schestowitz-TR it also didn't feel like programming [11:02] schestowitz-TR but a bunch of 'hacks' some browsers may or may not support [11:02] schestowitz-TR and it did not age well [11:02] schestowitz-TR icbm is wiping out red hat's site with mandatory js [11:02] schestowitz-TR more sites over time [11:02] schestowitz-TR it also f***ed up the rss feeds [11:02] schestowitz-TR ibm seems to employ not the cream of the crop [11:03] schestowitz-TR but the bottom of the barrel [11:09] schestowitz-TR they should ship rust runtime with mozilla firefox [11:09] schestowitz-TR and teach developers to do rust inside web pages [11:09] schestowitz-TR to run on the client end ;-) [11:09] schestowitz-TR good for rust "market share" [11:09] schestowitz-TR google easted a ton of money on rust [11:09] schestowitz-TR and it was going nowhere [11:09] techrightssec2 :( [11:09] schestowitz-TR many people were leaving [11:09] schestowitz-TR but they didn't give up [11:09] schestowitz-TR lobbied kernel for 3 years [11:09] schestowitz-TR created shell (lobby) groups [11:09] schestowitz-TR until it was nailed into the coffin of torvalds after he had been "disciplined" [11:09] schestowitz-TR and now they use "linux" as a marketing and "Selling point" [11:09] schestowitz-TR a lot of rust adopters are just people who think FOSS = Microsoft GitHub [11:09] schestowitz-TR maybe if google depends on many giuthub things they will up the pressure for linux too to go there [11:09] schestowitz-TR notice how in every git release announcement the official release links to github [11:09] schestowitz-TR and then idiots who mentin the release use github as primary source [11:09] schestowitz-TR as if github is the project manager of git [11:09] schestowitz-TR this is aggressive takeover [11:09] schestowitz-TR communities attacks by corporate manuever [11:09] schestowitz-TR manoeuvre [11:13] schestowitz-TR i think I will spare ~1 hour a week in productivity by no longer following any football, which became toxic polit [11:13] schestowitz-TR ics [11:13] schestowitz-TR it was always political, but this flavour of politics is too extreme [11:13] schestowitz-TR i am trying to check where else to free up time [11:30] techrightssec2 Don't skimp on exercise [11:30] techrightssec2 I wonder if Musk pays as much or more than Gates for reputation managment firms [11:30] techrightssec2 to astroturf various forums and sites. [11:30] techrightssec2 For time management, it can help to occasionally prioritize things as in what [11:30] techrightssec2 is objectively the best use of your time at any given moment. It's hard to [11:30] techrightssec2 fit into soceity if one becomes to efficient and low bullshit though [11:30] schestowitz-TR one leads to showoff, envy, then consumerism, and finally debt and bad health [11:32] techrightssec2 The showing off, envy, and consumerism are not only a sign of the times but [11:32] techrightssec2 might also be part of why FOSS is having such a hard time. (only part of [11:32] techrightssec2 the reason) That would be because many have been trained to aim to either [11:32] techrightssec2 get over on other people, thus hostility to cooperation. It would also be [11:32] techrightssec2 because they have also been trained to have self worth not just based on [11:32] techrightssec2 comparison (envy) to others but also in having something the others don't or [11:32] techrightssec2 just flat out deny others access. This idea of helping everyone advance is [11:32] techrightssec2 anathema to what's on TV (neftlix etc) and social control media. [11:36] schestowitz-TR precisely, biab [11:36] schestowitz-TR back [11:36] schestowitz-TR still going through links [11:36] schestowitz-TR many linux (ish) sites repost articles from 5-10 years ago [11:36] schestowitz-TR those with many comments on them [11:36] schestowitz-TR hoping those will seem new [11:37] techrightssec2 Also many companies have been training the population that expense in and of [11:37] techrightssec2 itself is a goal; thus utter garbage vehicles and service like Mercedes having [11:37] techrightssec2 any market at all, same for several other brands of vehicle [11:37] techrightssec2 Yes there has been a dreadful slowdown in professional articles; It is *very* [11:37] techrightssec2 time consuming to try to compensate with blog material but probably worth it [11:37] techrightssec2 in the long run. [11:38] schestowitz-TR people keep mentioning netflix [11:38] schestowitz-TR I never saw it (that I know of) [11:38] schestowitz-TR are they operaint at a loss atm? [11:38] schestowitz-TR /me checks latest rumours re msft layoffs [11:44] schestowitz-TR NHS England: We had 27,830 COVID-19 cases this past week and 5,250 COVID hospitalisations (of hospitalisations of people who test positive for COVID). So do 20% of those with COVID-19 end up parcelled into a hospital bed? OR... should we be TESTED more to CURB the spread? [11:47] schestowitz-TR Becoming blind to COVID-19 does not mean defeating it. It just helps it spread and do damage. Meanwhile, 2.2 million Brits report themselves as suffering long COVID (they're afraid to tell their employer; they hide it). Almost a million are unable to work due to illness. Working age people... cannot work due to sickness; total number of deaths per week soared. All age groups impacted. [11:55] schestowitz-TR since 2008 it has seems safe to assume most companies were lying about their finances [11:55] schestowitz-TR and even those who claim to profit were operating at a loss due to debt/borrowings [11:55] schestowitz-TR but it was mostly about optics [11:55] schestowitz-TR the madoff way [11:55] schestowitz-TR pretends to be big, hope it'll become a reality and liabilities can be written off later [11:55] schestowitz-TR don't know how ftx was set up, perhaps similarly ● Dec 16 [12:00] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:02] schestowitz-TR [12:02] 6 months ago: "Facebook and Netflix report losses, the stocks immediately crumble. GameStop reports loss, its as nothing has happened. GameStop is impenetrable by fud." [12:03] techrightssec2 Notice a trajectory? [12:03] techrightssec2 https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20220714121042776 [12:03] techrightssec2 https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/64-americans-today-think-it-sometimes-justified-lie-compared-42-2006 [12:03] techrightssec2 That too goes against FOSS' very mechanism of operation. [12:03] techrightssec2 Part of the reasons that companies lie are it's taught to MBAs as ok, and [12:03] techrightssec2 Enron-style accounting is established as the way to do business. [12:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.universityworldnews.com | Universities have an urgent mission: Make lying wrong again [12:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/64-americans-today-think-it-sometimes-justified-lie-compared-42-2006 ) [12:03] techrightssec2 and tolerated by the tax authorities and SEC [12:06] schestowitz-TR my ongoing series will cover some of that [12:06] schestowitz-TR as I saw it from closer [12:06] schestowitz-TR expedited it a bit to finish the report before year's end [12:06] schestowitz-TR then, next year, there's a lot more [12:06] schestowitz-TR months ago I reposted an old video of kirk weibe [12:06] schestowitz-TR on how 90% of the us public thought cheating or lying was ok [12:06] schestowitz-TR a sharp increase [12:06] schestowitz-TR maybe it has worsened since then [12:06] schestowitz-TR anyway, I won't work with liars [12:06] schestowitz-TR I have my boundaries [12:12] schestowitz-TR so netflix did report losses [12:13] schestowitz-TR unless things change (headcount etc.) [12:13] schestowitz-TR the longer it runs, the more money it loses [12:13] schestowitz-TR probably same w/ gulagtube [12:13] schestowitz-TR hemce endless ads [12:13] schestowitz-TR but those ads lower the userbase, over time [12:13] schestowitz-TR so it may be mission impossible to swing into profit [12:13] schestowitz-TR twitter drove away many users to only temporarily make a few quarters' profit [12:19] techrightssec2 Yes, the 90% figure was what I recall, so if you add that to the 2006 and 2019 [12:19] techrightssec2 data the trajectory is really clear. It seems that 'getting ahead' has been [12:19] techrightssec2 redefined to getting over on peope and that's the opposite of cooparation so [12:19] techrightssec2 the very fabric of society has turned against FOSS. So it's even lesss a [12:19] techrightssec2 technical question than before and m$ entering politics and the various [12:19] techrightssec2 three-letter agencies and their foreign counterparts see that it stays that way. [12:37] schestowitz-TR Fusion. Really? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/16/fusion-really/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fusion. Really? - CounterPunch.org [12:38] techrightssec2 They only look a few months ahead at most so even if they are eating the seed [12:38] techrightssec2 corn all they see is the feast at the moment. :( [12:38] techrightssec2 Netflix and the other streaming sites don't quite have the same problem as [12:38] techrightssec2 YouTube but it is similar. Theirs is more a bandwidth bottleneck since their [12:38] techrightssec2 repetoire of films is much smaller so it is a matter of shipping hard drives [12:38] techrightssec2 or even whole servers around the country pre-loaded with hi-res film files. [12:38] techrightssec2 Those sit at key junctions on the network to reduce the number of hops between [12:38] techrightssec2 the customer and the video being streamed. [12:43] schestowitz-TR Fusion. Really? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/16/fusion-really/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:43] techrightssec2 "Thus there would be four regrettable problems ..." [12:43] techrightssec2 Nothing is perfect but it would be a great advantage, regardless of the method [12:43] techrightssec2 of production, to have room temperature superconductors. [12:46] techrightssec2 That way the [12:46] techrightssec2 production could be vastly distant from the usage. Wind and sun are available [12:46] techrightssec2 somewhere all the time but not everywhere all the time. [12:49] schestowitz-TR there are problems other than this (sorry to interject pessimistically) [12:49] schestowitz-TR because we cannot east electricity or sun [12:49] schestowitz-TR (though sun can feed plants) [12:49] schestowitz-TR humans also produce a lot of wate [12:49] schestowitz-TR and then there is water management and conflict [12:49] schestowitz-TR overpopulation goes beyond climate change or cost of power [12:49] schestowitz-TR maybe soon they'll make models for terraforming the poles to grow food [12:49] schestowitz-TR human would reacr by doubling, again [12:49] schestowitz-TR /s/wate/waste/ [12:50] techrightssec2 https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/12/16/drm-q4.html !!! [12:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yingtongli.me | DRM Round-up: IDAD 2022 [12:55] schestowitz-TR if you call them "books", then they should be booked [12:55] schestowitz-TR not compressed or even encrypted binary coredumps [12:55] schestowitz-TR databases with articles are even better than today's 'e' 'books' ● Dec 16 [13:00] techrightssec2 ack [13:02] schestowitz-TR "i told my son to bring me a desk; he gave me an e-desk with a spyphone" [13:02] schestowitz-TR "I said, wtf? I need to do actual work!" [13:02] schestowitz-TR a tansition from analogue to digital can only be properly justified if the leap resulted in better value [13:02] schestowitz-TR to the user and no erosion of rights [13:02] schestowitz-TR the EU (competition) has just said something to the latter's effect [13:02] schestowitz-TR which I liked [13:02] schestowitz-TR reminded me of richard from PP Sweden [13:02] schestowitz-TR RMS spoke about this too, but I think a lot later [13:02] schestowitz-TR meanwhile I still listen to music I've carried forward since the 1990s [13:15] techrightssec2 Falkvinge seemed to have gotten canceled or something. Some of his colleagues [13:15] techrightssec2 also had trouble but theirs was directly with the government over stuff they [13:15] techrightssec2 said or wrote. [13:29] schestowitz-TR Qatar https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/16/eu-qatar-corruption/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EU Qatar Corruption - CounterPunch.org ● Dec 16 [14:17] techrightssec2 I wonder if there is a similiar scandal lurking under the radar at NASA [14:17] techrightssec2 regarding teh UAE [14:50] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:59] schestowitz-TR through football diplomacy they exercise a lotm of political control over here in manchester [14:59] schestowitz-TR by means of giving money to buy nmany international strs [14:59] schestowitz-TR qatar does this in france through PSG ● Dec 16 [15:02] techrightssec2 ack [15:17] schestowitz-TR qatar whistleblower https://www.democracynow.org/2022/12/15/abdullah_ibhais_qatar_world_cup_whistleblower | Source: Democracy Now [15:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Why Has Qatar Jailed a World Cup Whistleblower? The Brother of Abdullah Ibhais Speaks Out | Democracy Now! [15:20] schestowitz-TR qatar https://truthout.org/video/brother-of-world-cup-whistleblower-imprisoned-in-qatar-speaks-out/ | Source: TruthOut [15:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Brother of World Cup Whistleblower Imprisoned in Qatar Speaks Out - Truthout [15:26] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:44] techrightssec2 ack ● Dec 16 [16:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [16:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:47] techrightssec2 Not just backdoors, but also 'bugdoors' -- bugs that are repaired slowly while [16:47] techrightssec2 giving various paying agencies a headsup about how to use them to get in. ● Dec 16 [18:37] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 16 [20:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@aufyuh6vuhc7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell