●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 ●● ● May 17 [00:07] *buzzert has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 17 [01:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 17 [02:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 17 [04:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● May 17 [05:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 17 [07:20] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● May 17 [08:47] schestowitz-TR you have linked to "Kim Diaz" (SPAM< fictional template) [08:47] schestowitz-TR in "News Trace" (fake news) [08:47] schestowitz-TR likely computer-generated clickbair based on some anchent taxt [08:47] schestowitz-TR I LOLed a bit when I opened it [08:47] schestowitz-TR I had already added the site to my mental list is not spamSites too [08:47] schestowitz-TR it's not a real article [08:47] schestowitz-TR it's webspam [08:47] schestowitz-TR If Gulag promotes this site, than shame onm Gulag too [08:47] schestowitz-TR "Kim Diaz" used to have a very sexy picture [08:47] schestowitz-TR obv. something nicked from somewhere [08:47] Techrights-sec sorry, I'll add it to the blacklist but I figure that oen was important [08:47] Techrights-sec to observe in the 'other' links to track what the bullshitters are on about [08:47] Techrights-sec these days [08:48] schestowitz-TR one good giveaway it, mostly BS or empoty site footer [08:48] schestowitz-TR FAR too broad a range of topics, either at top or front page [08:48] Techrights-sec hence the x preceding the link [08:48] schestowitz-TR nobody wrote this article [08:48] schestowitz-TR it's fake ● May 17 [11:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:06] Techrights-sec From IRC, were you able to get in contat with that politician regarding [11:06] Techrights-sec patents? [11:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m5c7ce8bffjme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:10] schestowitz-TR Udall? [11:10] Techrights-sec COuld be [11:10] Techrights-sec There is need for global coordination here since otherwise the patent cartel [11:10] Techrights-sec or whatever it should be called will otherwise just do a divide-and-conquer [11:10] Techrights-sec tactic. [11:18] schestowitz-TR I want to talk to his about the Torture Report, then some about patents [11:18] Techrights-sec ack [11:19] schestowitz-TR He and Wyden were working together on that [11:19] schestowitz-TR I'd love to speak to him directly (not assistants) [11:19] Techrights-sec cool [11:28] Techrights-sec the search engine is returning 'patients" instead of "patents" [11:31] Techrights-sec mobile phones used to last a week or so [11:31] Techrights-sec piperwire is supposed to be the replacement, I will have t olook at that [11:31] Techrights-sec in the futute but not now [11:33] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● May 17 [12:57] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 17 [13:33] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/Ghost6Shell/status/1526360012741672960#m [13:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Ghost6Shell (@Ghost6Shell): "This is an amazing article over at techdirt; #encryption #rowvswade #techrights #encryptitall https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/16/the-end-of-roe-will-bring-about-a-sea-change-in-the-encryption-debate/" | nitter.it [13:33] schestowitz-TR .https://nitter.it/puppetmaster0x0/status/1526360053036351488#m [13:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Project 2501 (@puppetmaster0x0): "This is an amazing article over at techdirt; #encryption #rowvswade #techrights #encryptitall https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/16/the-end-of-roe-will-bring-about-a-sea-change-in-the-encryption-debate/" | nitter.it [13:56] schestowitz-TR ota [13:56] schestowitz-TR draft ● May 17 [14:00] schestowitz-TR at work, when I receive a call from the US (more common this year), even without the accent I can tell [14:00] schestowitz-TR people are rude [14:01] Techrights-sec ack [14:01] Techrights-sec checking [14:01] Techrights-sec the "massive campaign of bribery and blackmail against publishers" could use [14:01] Techrights-sec a link or something [14:01] schestowitz-TR I will add some links [14:01] schestowitz-TR iut's still uploading the video anyway [14:01] schestowitz-TR IU've meanwhiole added a meme as another draft [14:22] schestowitz-TR OK, Iv'e added links to the post, now shotput exercise while doiugn final read [14:23] Techrights-sec ack [14:27] schestowitz-TR latest gitm push laregly reactiopnary [14:27] schestowitz-TR sometimes I forget to fetch the latest tags BEFORE finalising daily links [14:27] schestowitz-TR the issue is now resolved as I pullevery 5 mins and the file is updated when needed [14:27] schestowitz-TR this will also vastly reduce change of commit conflicts [14:27] schestowitz-TR the screen shows me when something is pushed within <5 mins [14:27] schestowitz-TR like a notification so to speak [14:27] schestowitz-TR but unlike social control media, this one will always be informative [14:34] schestowitz-TR (ot-ish) lately the reg was not as bad as before. ms tim is not there anymore (he is elsewhere), they [14:34] schestowitz-TR hired some foss-focused authors, but they still have some issues. [14:34] schestowitz-TR but it was a lot worse last year [14:59] schestowitz [14:54] UK COVID-19 tests waning, even when so many people still get ill (and hundreds per day die with it). Lowest testing rates since 17-08-2020. [14:59] schestowitz > Its a bit sad, no more roy@diaspora [14:59] schestowitz > [14:59] schestowitz > there is also a PATENT file that comes with Go lang licence... u are the expert on patents right? :-p [14:59] schestowitz > [14:59] schestowitz > Yeah with the Corona dodging... look at China & NorthKorea ... sorry to say but with Omicron... [14:59] schestowitz > [14:59] schestowitz > 1) it is still a prolem, like a hefty flue, those with preconditions (lile asthma) might get into trouble [14:59] schestowitz > [14:59] schestowitz > 2) everyone will sooner or later get it, zero covid failed, nature is stronger, mankind was arrogant, what can ye do? [14:59] schestowitz > [14:59] schestowitz > The Chinese realize that now too. [14:59] schestowitz Gulag (Google) is part of the patent "cabal". [14:59] schestowitz I'm not interested in Go or anything else Gulag controls. [14:59] schestowitz Regarding COVID-19, responses will improve over time, e.g. pills and stuff. My mom got it twice already, so just "getting it" doesn't mean jack. It harms the body each time. Minimising the number of infections until we can combat this thing like we do the flu... probably worthwhile if one can work from home. ● May 17 [15:01] schestowitz > As a content creator [15:01] schestowitz > [15:01] schestowitz > U might like this web3 presentation :) [15:01] schestowitz > [15:01] schestowitz > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0pSQxYiFkI'm watching it now, thanks. [15:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | NO TITLE [15:01] schestowitz I'm very sceptical when I see the term web3, but I will look past the "labels" and pay attention to the substance. [15:01] Techrights-sec ok I suppose it will be ok to resume checking The Register again for a while_ [15:01] Techrights-sec ? [15:02] schestowitz-TR probably not worth is unless you pass by it in searches, which is what happens to me as they do [15:02] schestowitz-TR very dirty SEO thhat plasters their site's articles all over unrelated searches ("related" links [15:02] schestowitz-TR are scanned by Gulag as "body") [15:04] Techrights-sec ok I stumble across it sometimes but have previously ignored it when that [15:04] Techrights-sec happens; I'll give it a second look for now [15:05] schestowitz-TR 3 days ago I wanted to say that they cover microsoft malware a LOT [15:05] schestowitz-TR and quite a few unflattering things about Microsoft [15:05] schestowitz-TR the Microsoft fluff still happens, but not as often this year [15:05] schestowitz-TR also, for Microsoft malware you need to read between the lines to demonstrate that [15:05] schestowitz-TR this is in fact windows [15:06] Techrights-sec Sam is still allowed to do that but most sites and authors treat malware [15:06] Techrights-sec as an act of God rather than the natural fallout from M$ bad design [15:07] schestowitz-TR we need to blast them for blaming the victims and attackers [15:07] schestowitz-TR while the hole makers and those transmitting the malware (NPM/GitHub/Microsoft) [15:07] schestowitz-TR are seen as merely victims [15:08] Techrights-sec yes that has been a long term practice by microsofters: blame the victim [15:08] Techrights-sec it has become so widespread and generaly accepted to do so, such that [15:09] Techrights-sec even mozilla has started to behave that way [15:50] schestowitz-TR The Web cancels fast [15:50] schestowitz-TR Forgots fast [15:50] schestowitz-TR Loses information fast [15:50] schestowitz-TR inc. any syllabus [15:50] schestowitz-TR so I made local copies of many things over the years [15:50] schestowitz-TR inc. Web pages [15:50] schestowitz-TR I don't even know the URL of the norsoc site anymore [15:50] schestowitz-TR so it would be hard to check the Wayback Machine [15:50] schestowitz-TR maybe very old backups have it in the bookmarks somewhere [15:51] Techrights-sec ack [15:51] Techrights-sec It's hard to make copies of everyting "just in case" That's what libraries and [15:51] Techrights-sec archives used to do but don't any more [15:51] Techrights-sec One library in Canada was supposed to keep a copy of a reference specification [15:51] Techrights-sec of the final draft of a specific standard and got money to do so. Then [15:51] Techrights-sec a few years later deleted the etirety of the last remaining copy i nthe world [15:51] Techrights-sec from their web site to save a few kilobytes becase it "was not accessed so often: [15:52] Techrights-sec " [15:52] Techrights-sec It cost them extra work to delete it, it cost them nothing to keep it unmolested [15:52] Techrights-sec and furthermore they had already accepted the money to keep the copy on record [15:52] Techrights-sec for more than just a few months [15:52] schestowitz-TR not everyone thinks like you [15:52] schestowitz-TR and therein lies the issue [15:53] Techrights-sec Archival librarians are supposed to do their job in regards to preservation [15:53] Techrights-sec especially when the contract stipulates it. [15:54] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [15:54] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:55] schestowitz-TR if you are technical and not on shoestring budget, you can take advantage of the situation [15:55] schestowitz-TR as long as the Web is "open" and storage is cheap, you can step in and fill the gap [15:55] schestowitz-TR while many "news" sites perish the last account og events will be yours [15:55] schestowitz-TR then, the lawyer of Mr. Hovsepian will adk you ever so kindly to delete your own record [15:55] schestowitz-TR so you have one extra letter to add to the "ecollection" ● May 17 [16:06] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [16:06] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:08] schestowitz-TR Phoronix today: "Microsoft's Newest Linux Driver..." Way to piss off and turn off your audience, Michael. [16:08] schestowitz-TR Sometimes (esp. this year) it feels like Schneier 'died' or sold/licensed his name/blog for the state to "field"... this isn't the same person who cared deeply for Real Security. Very disappointing. :/ [16:08] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu Kylin 20.04 OS works on RISC-V hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164901#comment-33697 [16:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | China's Kylin Linux targets second RISC-V platform | Tux Machines [16:10] schestowitz-TR "Today's society and its digital platforms thrive on engagement. What's the most engaging thing? Content that produces the extremes of human emotions. Usually, that is, borderline gore, blantant clickbait that induces rage, acting like the end of the world is near, arguing online about useless things, and the list can go on." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-05-17.gmi [16:11] schestowitz-TR "A microwave oven on low may put out a couple of hundred watts; a cell phone struggling to reach a tower, maybe 3 watts, and will get hot in your hand. So you get to cook your brain _very_ slowly. But living behind a microwave antenna -- all bets are off." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-05-17.cell.gmi [16:24] Techrights-sec yep [16:27] schestowitz-TR This is openwashing, paid-for openwash-as-a-service, as Bloomberg is proprietary-first; OSI lost touch and sight of its original purpose, which it now undermines for cash (only about 3% of less of OSI's money comes from members; it's corporate) https://blog.opensource.org/memray-project-showcases-why-bloomberg-is-an-open-source-first-company/ http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/ [16:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.opensource.org | Memray project showcases why Bloomberg is an open source first company [16:27] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- blog.opensource.org | Memray project showcases why Bloomberg is an open source first company [16:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights [16:27] schestowitz-TR techrights.org | In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights [16:27] schestowitz-TR OSI says that a proprietary Wall Street firm is "open", but this is GitHub (proprietary/Microsoft) promotion. i.e. more of the same from OSI [16:27] schestowitz-TR It is so ironic that an organisation called "accessnow" has outsourced to an oligarchs-owned censorship platform and speaks about "privacy" when that platform is notorious for its mass surveillance and manipulation thereof https://www.accessnow.org/cpdp-2022/ [16:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.accessnow.org | Where can you find Access Now at CPDP 2022? - Access Now [16:28] schestowitz-TR I've come to the conclusion that the Web is "garbage amplifier" and "reinforcer" [16:28] schestowitz-TR even the EFF [16:28] schestowitz-TR look what those people (the news ones) are doing [16:28] schestowitz-TR *new [16:30] schestowitz-TR christine has once again abandoned her site [16:30] schestowitz-TR and is going ibm stenography again [16:30] schestowitz-TR habitually throwing snide remarks at those who criticise those who pay her [16:30] schestowitz-TR which is basically what they pay for [16:32] Techrights-sec tragic [16:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[16:38] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [16:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:54] Techrights-sec with twitter, the public usually misinterprets snideness as correctness [16:54] Techrights-sec and the medium is to abbreviated to dive into any facts, deeply or shallowl [16:54] Techrights-sec y [16:57] schestowitz-TR moments ago I went out of my way to avoid [16:57] schestowitz-TR a) billBC [16:57] schestowitz-TR b) socialcontrolmedia [16:57] schestowitz-TR to get some update on toinights Liverpool FC game [16:57] schestowitz-TR I nowadays go to the official sites of the team [16:57] schestowitz-TR they usually have fine ways to display what's going on [16:57] schestowitz-TR but most people do not value official sources [16:57] schestowitz-TR and the teams two emphasise the outsourcing [16:57] schestowitz-TR like the official manchester city fc site would show a TWEET [16:57] schestowitz-TR with the player lineup [16:57] schestowitz-TR as embedded element [16:57] schestowitz-TR instead of writing it properly in the site [16:57] schestowitz-TR without hashtags and spying and all that [16:57] schestowitz-TR as if they MUST do this via Twitter [16:57] schestowitz-TR their site won't be visited much [16:57] schestowitz-TR nor will they control their OWN message [16:57] schestowitz-TR if they carry on doing this [16:57] schestowitz-TR politicians alike [16:57] schestowitz-TR they will hav e ba million fake "followers" [16:57] schestowitz-TR and maybe a thousand people visiting their site [16:57] schestowitz-TR YouTube "stars" with a site nobody visits [16:58] schestowitz-TR but millionf of subs [16:58] schestowitz-TR that guag no longer informs [16:58] schestowitz-TR no rss feeds ● May 17 [17:01] Techrights-sec yes, it's strange that some people go very far out of their way to avoid the [17:01] Techrights-sec official site for their team [17:01] Techrights-sec every site that sends people away and over to social control media loses out [17:01] Techrights-sec just a bit more each time it happens [17:01] Techrights-sec https://www.geekwire.com/2017/oatmeal-creator-rips-facebook-comic-facebook-asks-wants-boost-post/ [17:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-'The Oatmeal' creator rips Facebook in comic and Facebook asks if he wants to 'boost' the post GeekWire [17:01] Techrights-sec some people get it [17:04] schestowitz-TR someone from germany who followed me via diaspora thought something had happened to me [17:04] schestowitz-TR wrongly assuming I only exist in that context [17:04] schestowitz-TR my dad, boorish enough to think FB ons Twitter and that all I do online was "tweet" [17:04] schestowitz-TR (he could barely tell the difference), worried when I did not "tweet" for a whole [17:04] schestowitz-TR there was really never a need to adopt identica, as trmanco wanted me to, [17:04] schestowitz-TR but back then the malignant elemented had not yet shown themselves [17:04] schestowitz-TR we already had IRC [17:04] schestowitz-TR I think the german guy is noted in today's irc logs [17:04] schestowitz-TR maybe I underestimated how many people "followed" in OTHER pods of [17:04] schestowitz-TR identica [17:04] schestowitz-TR but really, all pods are ticking time bombs [17:09] Techrights-sec interesting, I hope you were able to widen his horizons as to the available [17:09] Techrights-sec technologies and services [17:09] Techrights-sec one problem of many with the 'pods' and such is the extremely heavy overhead [17:09] Techrights-sec and high maintenance; too many people build things out until the verge of [17:09] Techrights-sec collapse and then hover at the brink; Gemini is a refreshing change from [17:09] Techrights-sec that; [17:12] schestowitz-TR gemini does not hae to be "ugly" either [17:12] schestowitz-TR client side, DE side etc. you can enhance the appearance [17:12] schestowitz-TR and make it suit your own prefs [17:12] schestowitz-TR but the upside is, plain text files, low b/w (hence cost) [17:12] schestowitz-TR though I think "tying" together the space would help [17:12] schestowitz-TR hence I try to gradually make a sort of "directory" [17:12] schestowitz-TR doing a search engine is hard and expensive [17:12] schestowitz-TR directories are cheap [17:12] schestowitz-TR like dmoz before people said "just gulag it!" [17:24] schestowitz-TR these ~30 lemons we bought may help us lose weight, they're good appetite suppressors [17:24] schestowitz-TR either [17:24] schestowitz-TR with tea of just water. We plan another journey tomorrow if the weather is as OK as forecasted [17:24] schestowitz-TR I'm "low" on topiscs to cover at the moment, but not short on time, this morning I finished a series of 4 shifts [17:26] Techrights-sec ack [17:26] schestowitz-TR I did trawl invidious for interesting videos [17:27] schestowitz-TR but it's very time-consuming with low roi [17:45] Techrights-sec videos are mostly a waste of time unless there is a specific post referencing [17:45] Techrights-sec it and giving a good indication why it /might/ be worth watching. even [17:45] Techrights-sec then you won't know until having spent some time on it. [17:46] schestowitz-TR let me check spamnil [17:46] schestowitz-TR spamnil seems to have run out of "bot credits" [17:46] schestowitz-TR maybe he should ask Sheela and James for some more tokens [17:46] schestowitz-TR latest video 2 days ago,. 11 views [17:47] schestowitz-TR what a star filmmaker [17:47] Techrights-sec RIPE84 has most of its presentations online [17:47] Techrights-sec :/ [17:47] Techrights-sec If they just shut everything down, there would have been an uproar and negative [17:47] Techrights-sec press. If they let spamnil ruin it for a while, people will be relieved that [17:47] Techrights-sec it (he) is gone, when they finally do get around to pulling the plug [17:49] schestowitz-TR "fake it till you make it mode" [17:49] schestowitz-TR fake= bot farms [17:49] schestowitz-TR like "air support" (plane or artillery) [17:49] schestowitz-TR there isa delay between the request and the time it's "actioned" [17:49] schestowitz-TR and it works in "clusters" [17:49] Techrights-sec https://ripe84.ripe.net/archives/ [17:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ripe84.ripe.net | Archives RIPE 84 [17:50] schestowitz-TR tdf/libo also outsourced to gulag [17:50] schestowitz-TR but it has this plugin that absically demands you click to unfold the embed [17:50] schestowitz-TR like a privacy condom of sorts [17:50] schestowitz-TR I did not check where they host their site/s [17:50] Techrights-sec :( [17:51] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2bk8utmbqk6aq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:51] schestowitz-TR like debian, gulag sends money their way [17:51] schestowitz-TR so tdf almost never says anything bad abot gulag apps [17:51] schestowitz-TR gulag-sweet [17:51] schestowitz-TR (*gsuite) [17:52] Techrights-sec openwashing is a perennial topic: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/15/1139243 [17:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Open Source Community Sets Out Path to Secure Software - SoylentNews [17:53] schestowitz-TR I think you sdsent this to me [17:53] schestowitz-TR without an "x" [17:53] schestowitz-TR so I responded by adding some words to accompany that [17:53] schestowitz-TR I think one positive and constructive approach is, [17:53] schestowitz-TR remind people what lf is [17:53] schestowitz-TR agan and again [17:53] schestowitz-TR until people realise who or what is telling them those things [17:53] schestowitz-TR and become cynical [17:56] schestowitz-TR "yo spamnil, your video from 2 months ago has 12 views... the one next to it 700... and it's about something [17:56] schestowitz-TR as dry as a tumble-drier) [17:56] schestowitz-TR you could writ e atool with gulag api (bound to break at a whim) that takes channel ID [17:56] schestowitz-TR and then does some heuristics to tell you if it's a spam/bot shit [17:56] schestowitz-TR like spamnil's [17:56] schestowitz-TR gulag probably has such a thing already [17:56] schestowitz-TR but turns ablind eye [17:56] schestowitz-TR this "content creator" is paid by a "third party" [17:57] schestowitz-TR just checked twitter analytics [17:57] schestowitz-TR it's impressive [17:57] schestowitz-TR the momentr musk complaint about "bots" [17:57] schestowitz-TR my daily impressions are halved [17:57] schestowitz-TR every day :-) [17:58] schestowitz-TR the web is fake ● May 17 [18:05] Techrights-sec I hope the investors figure out that Twitter is so fake [18:05] Techrights-sec Anything lately about 'bugdoors' ? [18:07] schestowitz-TR yes, [18:07] schestowitz-TR 1) Schneier boosting and endorsing NSA claims [18:07] schestowitz-TR 2) TechDirt wrote about encryption yesterday, naming Snowden [18:07] schestowitz-TR 3) some more BS from Schneier [18:07] schestowitz-TR Schneier might soon become a meme like Microbell [18:07] schestowitz-TR I wrote severalk things about CISA last night [18:09] schestowitz-TR (bonus: daniel p thinks that debian started harping about firmware blobs [18:09] schestowitz-TR to distract from a new thread, which he was engaged in, regarding spy agencies [18:09] schestowitz-TR controlling a few devs in the Debian project without ever disclosing it [18:09] schestowitz-TR the vetting process in Debian has no way to stepo this [18:09] schestowitz-TR like goiv. clearances [18:09] schestowitz-TR and kaniini told me says ago they now adopt a better practice [18:09] schestowitz-TR in alpine for this reason) [18:10] Techrights-sec controlling debian percolates down to /hundreds/ of derivative distros both [18:10] Techrights-sec directly and indirectly [18:10] Techrights-sec can Alpine continue to stand tall? Debian was doing rather well for many [18:10] Techrights-sec years but was weakened when Mark Shuttleworth hired away too many key people [18:10] Techrights-sec for his project; then who knows WTF really happened with systemd, not only [18:10] Techrights-sec did one guy make the call, nearly *everyone* else toed the line and kicked [18:10] Techrights-sec out not just dissenters but skeptics and even neutral parties. [18:11] schestowitz-TR maybe you can find some incriminating material on LP and team [18:11] schestowitz-TR post-hoc [18:11] schestowitz-TR it is a very time-consuming process [18:11] schestowitz-TR the video predates much of the controversy [18:12] schestowitz-TR back in the PA+avahi days [18:13] Techrights-sec Seeing Poettering in that 2011 panel, I;m almost surprised that the others [18:13] Techrights-sec on the stage didn't just throw a tarp over him and start kicking and punching [18:13] Techrights-sec To find anything incriminating on the Debian TC would require someone involved [18:13] Techrights-sec coming clean in one way or another. They'd be readily identifiable and [18:13] Techrights-sec retribution would be certain, based on the way the public and even other devs [18:13] Techrights-sec were treated post-decision. [18:17] schestowitz-TR shortly after I had moved offic we decided not to go "inbox zero" on patents [18:17] schestowitz-TR so it freed up time [18:17] schestowitz-TR and except EPO exclusives we can dig into Free software matter [18:17] schestowitz-TR a lot of the remainder about github lacks spunk becuase of the departure [18:17] schestowitz-TR e.g. stephenie schatz friedman [18:17] schestowitz-TR so we need to iddentity priority issues [18:17] schestowitz-TR then work towards outcomes [18:17] schestowitz-TR the LF focus (and torvalds) isa respons to their "seucirty" PR [18:17] schestowitz-TR grnades [18:17] schestowitz-TR that make it into MSM [18:17] schestowitz-TR with "open source" champions like Microsoft [18:19] schestowitz-TR ping [18:19] schestowitz-TR phoronix is a sinking ship (scrollback warning): [18:21] Techrights-sec pong [18:21] Techrights-sec yes that's really too bad since he did such great work consistently for [18:21] Techrights-sec many years [18:21] Techrights-sec ack [18:22] Techrights-sec ack [18:22] Techrights-sec The Turing Pi and a great many other pi-derived projects are quite interesting [18:22] Techrights-sec but are all contingent on RPF surviving a while longe despite being infiltrated [18:22] Techrights-sec at both the board and the engineer level by microsofters [18:23] schestowitz-TR china as mangopi [18:23] schestowitz-TR sooner or later the chinese will beat the welsh at their own game [18:23] schestowitz-TR they also control the supply chain and rare earth [18:24] schestowitz-TR I love mango [18:24] schestowitz-TR you will know RPF loses the plot when it starts abusing TM law to try to shut down similarly-named [18:24] schestowitz-TR rivals [18:24] schestowitz-TR inc. banana and jetson/nano [18:24] schestowitz-TR beagelboard we don'\t hear much about [18:24] schestowitz-TR or gumstix [18:27] Techrights-sec The RPi is not about cost, it is about education. As long as they stick to [18:27] Techrights-sec that, they can maintain their lead. But if they go off on a tangent or turn [18:27] Techrights-sec to moneygrubbing then of course they will get surpassed quickly. [18:31] schestowitz-TR maybe the item is thus shared among the stuff or their friends [18:31] schestowitz-TR *staff [18:31] schestowitz-TR that would encourage making the service worse [18:31] schestowitz-TR we already lost a parcl ages ago [18:31] schestowitz-TR when I say shared I mean stolen [18:31] schestowitz-TR I know how they treat lost/unclaimed items at the gym [18:31] schestowitz-TR unofficially "auctioned" but more likely claimed by an insider or a friend [18:31] schestowitz-TR in a rigged process [18:31] schestowitz-TR some are high-value items [18:31] schestowitz-TR like fancy watches [18:32] Techrights-sec could be. France is like that. [18:34] schestowitz-TR anyway, let me know if you find a good topic [18:34] schestowitz-TR I'm starving for a new set of topic [18:34] schestowitz-TR github stuff is there and will be unshelved when the time is strateggic [18:34] schestowitz-TR like the next github debacle [18:36] Techrights-sec ok [18:38] schestowitz-TR rianne back, no discounts found today except milk :/ [18:38] schestowitz-TR I am guessing competition has increased [18:38] Techrights-sec ok [18:38] Techrights-sec probably [18:39] schestowitz-TR she said athat at one shop (she checks about 7 small ones) the front page of a "news" [18:39] schestowitz-TR paper said [18:39] schestowitz-TR "if you are poor, find a job that pays better" (paraphrasing) [18:39] schestowitz-TR I said, that's why ytou should ignore the oligarchs' press [18:39] schestowitz-TR ivanka: start something news [18:39] schestowitz-TR kushner the husband: blacks need to want to succeed [18:39] schestowitz-TR poor shaming -> poor blaming [18:39] schestowitz-TR "STOP BEING POOR!!" [18:39] Techrights-sec :( [18:39] Techrights-sec blame the victims is not just an M$ trend any more [18:40] schestowitz-TR One SBM per child [18:40] schestowitz-TR *SBOM [18:40] schestowitz-TR itwire's stan beer wrote an article some days ago where he said Microsoft now charges money to fix its own mess [18:40] schestowitz-TR I un--disabled the itwire feed in quiterrss but most days there are zero items [18:40] schestowitz-TR very weird [18:42] schestowitz-TR as they cannot even maintain a consistent host and have at one point outsourced to microsloth [18:42] schestowitz-TR you might wish to set expectations accordingly [18:42] schestowitz-TR maybeon their last foot [18:43] Techrights-sec I hope they shake out of it, they have some good articles there though [18:43] Techrights-sec maybe 75% - 80% of them are by Sam [18:43] schestowitz-TR you are referring to one person as "they" :-) [18:44] Techrights-sec he does almost all the heavy lifting there [18:44] Techrights-sec there are on occasion more than one author, but I cannot remember the names [18:44] Techrights-sec besides Sam [18:44] schestowitz-TR more than a decade ago, in the digg days, there was david williams (or williamson) [18:44] schestowitz-TR I don't think he writes there anymore [18:45] Techrights-sec the more worrying trend is that it seems there are many aricles by "staff" [18:45] schestowitz-TR itwire's microsoft booster dave winder (or similar) moved to forbes [18:45] schestowitz-TR and the editor is no longer stan beer afaik [18:46] Techrights-sec that's too bad, Forbes was dabbling in FOSS topics for a while [18:46] Techrights-sec I guess their bosses shut that down. [18:49] schestowitz-TR jason evangelho wrote about steam deck there EVERY DAY [18:49] schestowitz-TR then I did a post showing the pattern [18:49] schestowitz-TR then he vanished! :-) [18:49] schestowitz-TR like they saw him and sacked him on the spot [18:49] schestowitz-TR but deck is not an enemy [18:49] schestowitz-TR days ago, in rely to lunduke article re suse [18:49] schestowitz-TR jason evangelho said in twitter that lunmduke had questioned his credibility and authenticity [18:49] schestowitz-TR I also got mail claiming the same [18:49] schestowitz-TR forbes is not journalism [18:49] schestowitz-TR they have clientele [18:49] schestowitz-TR like "TLG", the man formerly known as Linux something [18:51] Techrights-sec yes they sell a message rather than do proper reporting or at least confine [18:51] Techrights-sec their reporting in such a way as to limit it to being on-message ● May 17 [19:16] *techrights_guest|95 (~2f971d78@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:17] schestowitz-TR 0/ [19:17] schestowitz-TR hi, techrights_guest|95 [19:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [19:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:45] *techrights_guest|95 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [19:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [19:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 17 [20:20] schestowitz-TR [20:18] Linux Foundation continues to behave like a front group of enemies of Linux, spreading the same FUD they do and distracting from prorperietary software having back doors https://www.scmagazine.com/perspective/devops/open-source-burnout-an-opening-to-more-security-gaps [20:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.scmagazine.com/perspective/devops/open-source-burnout-an-opening-to-more-security-gaps ) ● May 17 [21:15] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pxzjise85qe8y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:42] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/LuureAmet/status/1526563874203488260#m. [21:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-LuureAmet (@LuureAmet): "Rick Allen Jones -> KGB smearier agent as is Epstein. It had nothing to do whit "Bill Home",except Agent should have been fired for being gay-in USA not allowed to test it. Always try to add most realistic links to accusations: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/14-22121-1_Redacted.pdf #RickAllenJones #RickJones" | nitter.it [21:42] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/osintph/status/1526561982534631425#m [21:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-OSINTPH (@osintph): "Links 10/05/2022: Fedora Linux 36 Released | Techrights https://cstu.io/abbda3 #InformationTechnology" | nitter.it [21:53] schestowitz-TR apt search rss whats in the repo? https://dwaves.de/2022/05/17/apt-search-rss-whats-in-the-repo/ [21:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- apt search rss whats in the repo? | dwaves.de [21:53] schestowitz-TR seems like he took my advice and will follow using rss feeds, not diaspora [21:57] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 17 [22:00] schestowitz-TR "YLE Teksti-TV is the teletext service provided by Finland's national broadcasting company." gemini://skyjake.fi/teksti-tv/about.gmi [22:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:29] schestowitz-TR rianne and I decided that the longterm plan (to eventually leave the company) still stands [22:29] schestowitz-TR we continue to milk so to speak, but there's no assurance that 1) we'll be a respectable company (old issue) [22:29] schestowitz-TR 2) the company will survive for many more years [22:30] schestowitz-TR I passed rianne her very old CV, which is in latex. she wants to pursue a similar role, there's really nothing to lose ● May 17 [23:17] *techrights_guest|37De (~ac3a1001@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:20] *techrights_guest|37De has quit (Quit: Connection closed)