●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 ●● ● Aug 17 [00:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:12] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:12] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:15] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:16] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:18] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:18] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:19] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:19] *schestowitz (~roy@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:19] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [00:23] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:34] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:37] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:41] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [01:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fch46dbjh8n5g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [02:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [03:08] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [04:26] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:26] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:26] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:26] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-92beur.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [04:27] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-92beur.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:27] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [04:27] *libertybox__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-92beur.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:28] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [04:28] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:28] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-92beur.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:28] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [04:28] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *ts2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Z-lined) [04:28] *schestowitz has quit (Z-lined) [04:28] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [04:40] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:41] *libertybox__ (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:41] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:42] *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2 [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 yes, I saw your message [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 migration went OK [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 this old machine seems to panic a little in rekonq [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 had to reboot it twice this past night [04:47] schestowitz-TR2 but it's not an important PC [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 ipfs went OK, in cron :-) [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 also, each reboot on any machine helps push me to refactor the layout [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 like, I removed the tuxmachines monitoring here [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 next, I'll unplug old backups [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 I also update my kde nepon machine, first reboot in 3 months [04:49] schestowitz-TR2 we'll see is RAM leaks have been mitigated since [04:58] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [04:58] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [04:58] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [05:04] schestowitz-TR2 The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparenty [05:04] schestowitz-TR2 introduced on purpose. I'm not sure how to override them. Baker is out to [05:04] schestowitz-TR2 kill Thunderbird and then Firefox. [05:06] Techrights-sec2 The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparenty [05:06] Techrights-sec2 introduced on purpose. I'm not sure how to override them. Baker is out to [05:06] Techrights-sec2 kill Thunderbird and then Firefox. [05:06] Techrights-sec2 what was changed that IPFS now works in cron? [05:06] Techrights-sec2 thunderbird menus with white text on off-white backgrounds :( [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 Thunderbird has a new strategy and business partners [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 "apps" and all [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 you fixed ipfs [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 I only made monior changes after this [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 and it works now [05:07] Techrights-sec2 oh [05:07] Techrights-sec2 ok [05:07] schestowitz-TR2 so I've logged off and will let it do its thing [05:10] Techrights-sec2 biab [05:42] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:42] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [07:07] schestowitz gulag has begun ramping up its indexing of the new site: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&client=pub-2479740519054892&hl=en&biw=1056&bih=980&ei=MIX8YpKbBIjYgAactaSYBw&ved=0ahUKEwiS86K6ms35AhUILMAKHZwaCXM4ChDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQ3wdYngxg_AxoAXAAeACAAVKIAaEBkgEBMpgBAKABAaABAsABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz [07:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-"Programming Leftovers" - Google Search [07:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 I was very happy with how things went on last night [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 I was anticipating at least SOME obstacles [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 I monitor the sort of traffic the old site gets [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 lots of valuable archives, 165,000+ nodes [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 and the new CMS copes fine with the increas ein load, it does not sweat at all [07:11] Techrights-sec2 ack [07:11] Techrights-sec2 good news then [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 the only limit is b/w-related [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 so it could in theory serve thousands of pages per minute without sweating [07:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:13] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938 [07:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd [07:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd [07:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [07:14] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:15] schestowitz That's just the CA cartel frivilously warning about sites that issue their own certificates instead of outsourcing "trust" to monopolies and oligopolies (like 'secure' boot); it's a deliberate bug in the browser. Disregard or use http. [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 one good thing is that all "tweets" or TM contain also the gemini address [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 even if people don't click on these or cannot open them [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 that at least raises awareness among people [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 a necessary first step [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 gemini clients don't have this LE-like mentality [07:18] schestowitz-TR2 only about 8% of capsules use the CA cartel [07:18] schestowitz Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.it https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938 Source: nitter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938 [07:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.it [07:19] Techrights-sec2 however the risks there is that the libraries they are built with start to [07:19] Techrights-sec2 lock out certificates which have not been vouched for by large corporations [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 notice the similarity to 'secure' boot [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 they start with recommendation [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 then intimidation [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 then outright locking out [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 thius iks a form of blackmail for lockdown [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 resistance will be needed by explaining to people what's happening [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 now GNOME web apparently says "security problem" and blocks it [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 unless one uses http [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 old browsers might not even have tls support [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 this is not about security [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 as I said bneore [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 more so after russian invasion [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 one day revoking certs can be weaponised [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 fore outright censorship [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 not at dns level [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 but at LE (et al) level [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 very scary thought, no? [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 like lenono shouting and scoffing at bsd and Linux [07:22] schestowitz-TR2 like only MalwareSoft (TM) is "secure" [07:22] Techrights-sec2 yes, is is very similar to restricted boot, being about control and such [07:22] Techrights-sec2 that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities can [07:22] Techrights-sec2 issue revocations at any time they feel like it [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 I remind people they revoked millions of certs before [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 without even properly expaining what had happened [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 LE = github (Microsoft, NSA, proprietary) [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 also secretive [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 it's the same address as LF, same bean counter [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 same board [07:28] Techrights-sec2 that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities can [07:28] Techrights-sec2 issue revocations at any time they feel like it [07:28] Techrights-sec2 and for any reason they feel like [07:28] Techrights-sec2 that's a good topic to revisit in a video or two [07:28] Techrights-sec2 bean counters are popular with certain interests since they steer the [07:28] Techrights-sec2 organizations they are in away from actually acting on their original charters [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 I want to make a side point: they say https= security=privacy=good [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 even when the companies you tansmit data (banks, FB, Gmail etc.) [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 not only retain all this data but pass it around [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 so it's an attack granularity thing [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 maybe your ISP is oblivious [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 but that's one level of several [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 even today's so-called 'browsers' keep track of what you visit (the chrom* ones for sure) [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 never mind AV software, toolbars, etc. in the name of "security" [07:29] schestowitz-TR2 boiling frog analogy: warm, hot, dead [07:29] schestowitz-TR2 recommend, intimidate, block (outright) [07:30] schestowitz https://twitter.com/erbanku/status/1555220426254475265 [07:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@erbanku: @tuxmachines Isnt it delayed? https://t.co/Oepj4Nd0ue [07:30] schestowitz https://twitter.com/enczew/status/1553466656541876224 [07:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@enczew: #Linux https://t.co/3jY0buba8H [07:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New Tux Machines https://t.co/dI7W6Jausv [07:31] schestowitz https://twitter.com/gy_sh1n/status/1550611491103117314 [07:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gy_sh1n: @tuxmachines Does anybody still use Apache OpenOffice? #FOSS [07:32] schestowitz https://twitter.com/SyS_Config/status/1548741823476162561 [07:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SyS_Config: Check and ask away before you buy any pc or laptop peoplez . If you can't boot Linux..don't buy it. https://t.co/WIGnZneOZA [07:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Microsoft stopped Lenovo from booting Linux https://t.co/RyPjx4tV0W [07:33] schestowitz-TR2 Check and ask if your Web browser blocks sites that don't conform to Pentagon-funded agenda; if you cannot access such sites, don't download it [07:33] schestowitz-TR2 (yes, it's too late by then) [07:33] schestowitz-TR2 agenda creep [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 someone compared TR to antivaxxers over TOFU [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 I noticed again, now criticising FBI is "extremistr" [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 criticising voting machines is antisemetic ("election denier") [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 all those stigmas won't help us [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 they give us temporary entertainment while we serve to protect injustices [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 apropos injustice, zoe kooyman just posted a decent article [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 and fsf did mandarin and espanol translations of a video [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 so they're not idle as I insinuated the other day [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 you'll know they dumped the shapr when they blog like today's EFF [07:38] schestowitz-TR2 *jumped the shark ● Aug 17 [08:16] schestowitz-TR2 added tuxmahcines site monitoring to cavan, using netsurf [08:32] Techrights-sec2 ack [08:32] Techrights-sec2 """ [08:32] Techrights-sec2 Its frustrating when you spend years if not decades helping such companies and then they go around your back to help their own enemies. [08:32] Techrights-sec2 """ [08:32] Techrights-sec2 fixed ;) [08:32] schestowitz-TR2 Did you also fix this in the drop-quote part? [08:51] schestowitz-TR2 if today is hectic at your end, then I can focus on publishing posts/videos [08:52] schestowitz-TR2 it's good that august has been so slow, less guilt about not writing much [08:52] schestowitz-TR2 TM gemini capsule at 3k requests now ● Aug 17 [09:16] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:38] Techrights-sec2 can you show a URl for the drop quote part? I can look at it later. [09:39] schestowitz-TR2 maybe I misinterpreted what you said [09:39] schestowitz-TR2 I thought you had edited my post [09:39] schestowitz-TR2 maybe you just sort of joked and made a point [09:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Aug 17 [10:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:31] Techrights-sec2 no, it was a play on "there. fixed that for you." [10:31] Techrights-sec2 if I had seen it before it was published I would have suggested a correction [10:31] Techrights-sec2 but would not go in after it has already been published at all [10:31] Techrights-sec2 so yes it was trying to be a joke [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 I wqas just watching the recent robertson video on lennartsoft [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 I had linked to it at the time without watching it [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 truly disappointing [10:56] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [11:24] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 17 [12:05] schestowitz-TR2 techrepublic is a dying site. It used to TRY to produce some news. Then it turned to Microsoft shilling. Now, as a last recourse, this sister site of ZDNet tries to reinvent itself as diploma mill peddler. Even made a deal with LINUNTODAY to shill these scams. [12:27] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:36] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [13:16] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bgekf9m98upnn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:29] schestowitz-TR2 Just wrote my first 'blog post' in new TM [13:29] Techrights-sec2 great! [13:29] Techrights-sec2 gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/welcome_new_tm.gmi [13:41] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 17 [14:19] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:26] schestowitz is it just lagrance, or does gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/What_s_the_difference_between_apt_get_upgrade_vs_dist_upgrade.gmi show latin letter for apostrophe? [14:26] schestowitz-TR2 *lagrange [14:35] Techrights-sec2 checking [14:35] Techrights-sec2 in which part? The body renders ok in Amfora; the problematic characters [14:35] Techrights-sec2 are removed from the URL / slug because both Amfora and Lagrange seem to choke [14:35] Techrights-sec2 on them even though they seem like they ought to be perfectly valid [14:35] Techrights-sec2 lagrange is not in the Devuan repository [14:37] schestowitz-TR2 checking gain, the title is showing up ok in the index of articles [14:37] schestowitz-TR2 *again [14:37] schestowitz-TR2 then, in the page itself, 3 places where slanted apostrphe is ussed "smart quotes") shows up as "a" with accent on top of it [14:37] Techrights-sec2 not heree :/ [14:38] schestowitz-TR2 good, so it's a lagrange problem [14:38] schestowitz-TR2 thanks [14:38] Techrights-sec2 np [14:41] Techrights-sec2 can you quote a phrase where the problem can be seen? I can check specifically [14:41] Techrights-sec2 then, but for now the who page renders ok in Amfora. [14:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@iy34hbyygb484.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:42] schestowitz-TR2 ytalk does notsupport such accents, but the title and end of body have 3 such cases in total [14:42] schestowitz-TR2 I tried changing fonts just now and no difference was made [14:43] Techrights-sec2 it is important to have the surrounding words [14:43] Techrights-sec2 It'd be a matter of characterset not font / typeface [14:43] Techrights-sec2 "Be aware we're..." [14:43] schestowitz-TR2 i guess utf is so [u]niversal that some clients don't process it right [14:47] Techrights-sec2 neith lagrange nor amfora seem to allow it in the URLs [14:56] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:56] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [15:52] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 17 [16:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:46] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 17 [17:13] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/meet-brainjs-javascript-library-deploying-neural-networks [17:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Meet Brain.js A JavaScript Library for Deploying Neural Networks [17:13] schestowitz " [17:13] schestowitz Brain.js is a JavaScript library for deploying a neural network in the browser or on Node.js, writes Richard MacManus. It uses a computers graphics processing unit (GPU) for calculations, or pure JavaScript when GPU isnt available. [17:13] schestowitz A key benefit of Brain.js, says MacManus, lies in its use of JavaScript the worlds most popular web programming language. [17:13] schestowitz In this article, MacManus explains more about Brain.js, describing its origins and how it can be used. [17:14] schestowitz " [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 Oh, I get "Unable to connect" error [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 when trying to modify or add a node [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 "Lookup error" [17:30] schestowitz-TR2 that would explain why Marius could not add a page [17:30] Techrights-sec2 checking [17:30] Techrights-sec2 I was just able to add a page [17:33] Techrights-sec2 At that stage the database is all set, and the connection problem would have [17:33] Techrights-sec2 been with the MQTT broker [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 oh it was modified ok after all [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 I wonder that this alert is about [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 and I am mosty, guessing if marius didn't add the page becausae he tried [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 never mind, false alart [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 except it did show an alaert [17:33] schestowitz-TR2 after "Pinging via COVID-19 Death Toll This August More Than 10 Times Higher Than in August 2020 (So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/17/covid19-august/ [17:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Death Toll This August More Than 10 Times Higher Than in August 2020 (So Far) [17:58] schestowitz-TR2 is it OK for me to remove the test page? foo bar? ● Aug 17 [18:00] schestowitz-TR2 done. record deleted. my first time :-) [18:05] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 needed some confidence, it names that as node 648 [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 wow, we sure add nodes fast [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 about 1500 per month [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 i assume number is primary key and the algo leaps past "missing" numbers after sorting by id [18:07] Techrights-sec2 excellent [18:07] Techrights-sec2 I figure it will be a rarely used function so it is not parto f the wrapper [18:07] Techrights-sec2 scripts [18:07] Techrights-sec2 :) [18:08] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:08] Techrights-sec2 yes it is a key but my ineptitude with SQL shows and much of what could be [18:08] Techrights-sec2 handled automatically via SQLite3 is managed inside of the perl scripts. [18:08] Techrights-sec2 There wasn't time to go back and fix that before it went live ;P [18:08] Techrights-sec2 I can experiment with some stuff offline later on and see what I can learn [18:08] Techrights-sec2 about keys, foreign keys, references, and cascading deletions. [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 all the needs are met already and there are no technical issues except external ones [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 site archive pages or search are very muchb peripheral to the whole thing in the sense that they are read-oinly operations [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 I'm VERY garetful for this CMS [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 maybe we should give it a name at some point [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 even phoronix gave its CMS a name [18:11] Techrights-sec2 np it's a relief for me to see the simplified UI [18:11] Techrights-sec2 a rude name? [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 I used to chat with michael about it [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 he did another microsoft post today [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 after one yesterday [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 I'm cynical about the whole thing [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 wecahatted about his old cms giving very cryptic urls like hashes [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 not even numbers [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 he said he would "fix" it and eventually did [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 today in the shower I had a thought about drupal [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 easy toi install [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 like birthing a kid [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 but then get ready to patch it every month for the next decades [18:14] schestowitz-TR2 MattL from SFF compalined about wordpress being like this (over a decade ago) [18:15] Techrights-sec2 SLOC Directory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted) [18:15] Techrights-sec2 3692 top_dir perl=3548,sh=144 [18:15] Techrights-sec2 Totals grouped by language (dominant language first): [18:15] Techrights-sec2 perl: 3548 (96.10%) [18:15] Techrights-sec2 sh: 144 (3.90%) [18:15] Techrights-sec2 Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 3,692 [18:16] Techrights-sec2 Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 0.79 (9.46) [18:16] Techrights-sec2 (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05)) [18:16] Techrights-sec2 Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 0.49 (5.87) [18:16] Techrights-sec2 (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38)) [18:16] Techrights-sec2 Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 1.61 [18:16] Techrights-sec2 an advantage to most static site generators is that they don't have any [18:16] schestowitz-TR2 ack [18:16] Techrights-sec2 web-facing parts. 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