●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 ●● ● Jan 18 [00:45] schestowitz-TR nobody knows [00:45] schestowitz-TR except liars who claim to k [00:45] schestowitz-TR now [00:45] schestowitz-TR *know [00:45] schestowitz-TR or claim to control the future [00:45] schestowitz-TR no single person has THAT much power [00:45] schestowitz-TR not even Putin [00:46] schestowitz-TR having said that [00:46] schestowitz-TR 1) keep healthy [00:46] schestowitz-TR 2) keep good knowledge [00:46] schestowitz-TR with (1) you are safe for the top of the pyramid of "needs" (Maslow) [00:47] schestowitz-TR (2) is good if you want gainful employment in the future [00:47] schestowitz-TR some people let (1) and (2) stagnate ● Jan 18 [01:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [01:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jan 18 [02:41] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:41] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 18 [03:01] techrigthssec that was probably when I ran an update of the packages but it said nothing about\ [03:01] techrigthssec removing anything, just updating afiak [03:01] techrigthssec by the way there were / are a lot of hotlinks in the tm gallery [03:01] schestowitz-TR in the original (old) or static )new)? [03:01] schestowitz-TR i didn't even know gulag analytics was in there [03:07] schestowitz-TR OTA [03:07] schestowitz-TR should I do a video about MSFT layoffs? or no need? (mind you, it's in "the news" already; we 'don't matter' now) [03:07] schestowitz-TR 8k+ requests over gemini https proxy yesterday [03:07] schestowitz-TR msft layoffs and mjg [03:07] schestowitz-TR OTA [03:07] schestowitz-TR biab [03:09] *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2 [03:23] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:23] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jan 18 [04:31] techrigthssec The screen shots are probably now complete in the tm-new gallery [04:31] techrigthssec There are still some hotlinks in there somewhere, but I have not hunted them [04:31] techrigthssec down. There are however some accidental captures of the tm main page and [04:31] techrigthssec they can be removed and the links to them replaced with links to tm-new, but [04:31] techrigthssec that will take a bit of thought first. [04:31] techrigthssec Maybe the orphaned file names could be culled too. [04:31] techrigthssec Should any javascript at all be allowed to remain? [04:31] schestowitz-TR i think js is only in the dropdown box for screenshot res [04:35] techrigthssec I haven't tested if it evem works in the archived version. I presume that it [04:35] techrigthssec ought to though. [04:35] techrigthssec Nope. It seems not to. The link below it does work, however. [04:44] schestowitz-TR draft [04:48] techrigthssec checking [04:50] techrigthssec The bold face text near the bottom is broken [04:50] techrigthssec s/If I could do this/If I can do this/ [04:50] techrigthssec Remember that m$ makes journalists toe the line to retain their "access" to [04:50] techrigthssec official channels of information. Link to the relevant PXE from Comes v M$ [04:50] techrigthssec The phrase "XBox sales lose the company money!" is what should be highlighted [04:50] techrigthssec in bold, not the rest [04:50] techrigthssec A few words about how/why Azure is failing could be useful. [04:55] schestowitz-TR editing, thanks [04:55] schestowitz-TR i assume current msfters might watch the video [04:55] techrigthssec Xbox has not ever really been much about being a games console but has been [04:55] techrigthssec about making a test bed for DRM and other lock-in using commodity hardware. [04:55] schestowitz-TR and try to convince them to leave [04:55] schestowitz-TR can i quote that? [04:56] techrigthssec loose paraphrasing is preferable if possibe [04:59] psydruid even saying something like not buying any games from companies that get acquired by Microsoft is seen as hostile instead of a decision any person should be able to make for themselves ● Jan 18 [05:16] techrigthssec Well put! [05:17] schestowitz-TR just added a url for letter to hobbyists at the end [05:17] schestowitz-TR to show how far back this goes [05:17] schestowitz-TR psydruid: it is a hate crime [05:17] schestowitz-TR corporations are people, my friend. MinceR likes that quote [05:20] techrigthssec Excellent addition [05:22] schestowitz-TR i could add a reference to the pharma/vaccine business, but it would alienate and distract from the topic at hand [05:22] schestowitz-TR scicnece is now "political" and "divisive" [05:22] schestowitz-TR my nhs "record" can "prove" I support trump and lex jones and... (straw man) [05:22] schestowitz-TR there is that twitter leak about pharma companies asking twitter to censor activists for generic vaccines [05:22] schestowitz-TR i.e. no patents [05:22] schestowitz-TR yes, those "terrorists" who think public-funded stuff should be... gasp... public [05:43] techrigthssec Pharma would be a distraction ● Jan 18 [07:19] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:19] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 18 [08:00] schestowitz-TR whoa [08:00] schestowitz-TR pinkish sky this morning [08:00] schestowitz-TR and snow [08:00] schestowitz-TR very odd hue [08:17] schestowitz-TR -- [08:20] schestowitz-TR tesla makes budget cars [08:20] schestowitz-TR "budget" AYE QUE [08:20] schestowitz-TR buy this green car [08:20] schestowitz-TR that runs on power made elsewhere [08:20] schestowitz-TR don't pay attention to Tesla whistleblowers, they are just terrorists sceming a mass shooting [08:20] schestowitz-TR *scheming [08:20] schestowitz-TR Tesla cultists make me more sick than Apple cultists [08:20] schestowitz-TR but both engage in financially self-harming behaviour, so I'm sort of fine with that [08:38] techrigthssec ack [08:41] schestowitz-TR they would be better off SupportingTheEconomy(TM) by spending local [08:41] schestowitz-TR not feeding CultOfApple and MuskCult/OPccult [08:41] schestowitz-TR back in a biot [08:41] schestowitz-TR worming exercise [08:41] schestowitz-TR we started feeding the birds near us lately, they hang in the trees and are visible from binuculars [08:41] schestowitz-TR they are visible from where we exercise, they come to the garden when the cats are not around, and once [08:41] schestowitz-TR they locate one feed the rest follow [08:41] schestowitz-TR bbl ● Jan 18 [10:28] schestowitz-TR strategically iw would help to know WHAT and WHERE microsoft does cuts [10:28] schestowitz-TR a bit too early to check atm [10:28] schestowitz-TR because of gossips HR 1-to-1 meetings today [10:28] schestowitz-TR on my 'TODO' [10:28] schestowitz-TR I hope they cut off lots of "OS" stuff [10:28] schestowitz-TR that would help gnu/linux grow [10:45] techrigthssec Maybe they are cutting "coders" because, given the quality, they can be replaced [10:45] techrigthssec with ChatGPT which does a better job they they generally do. ;) [10:45] techrigthssec More seriously cutting the OS stuff would make some sense but what they do [10:45] techrigthssec seldom makes sense. I guess it is about where they see the strongest chances [10:45] techrigthssec for maintaining a monopoly or if they will transition further to "financialization" like Apple has. [10:45] schestowitz-TR catching up [10:46] schestowitz-TR draft [10:46] schestowitz-TR (reading your message) [10:46] schestowitz-TR I am not saying OS staff/stuff gets cut [10:46] schestowitz-TR but would love to know if t hey do [10:46] schestowitz-TR maybe we'll never find out easily [10:46] schestowitz-TR drawing blood froma rock and from liars [10:52] techrigthssec It would be difficult to find out in advance and to a certain extent even after [10:52] techrigthssec the fact, for the reasons you mention. [10:54] schestowitz-TR we enjoy the news nonetheless [10:54] schestowitz-TR the collectiev achievement of millions of gnu/linux advocates [10:54] schestowitz-TR ebuzz, DT, groklaw etc. [10:54] schestowitz-TR they can only try to undermine, infiltrate etc. [10:54] schestowitz-TR like paying OSI to call plagiarism "HEY HI" [10:54] schestowitz-TR OSI is finished [10:55] schestowitz-TR Android (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/ [10:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Android (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | Techrights [10:56] schestowitz-TR gonna check on the bird now to relax [10:56] schestowitz-TR and round of coffee [10:56] schestowitz-TR only slept 4 hours [10:56] schestowitz-TR rianne woke me up to tell me abotu the perl issue ● Jan 18 [11:02] psydruid they find it hard enough to hire people who are familiar with their technologies, because a whole generation of developers has grown up with free software [11:03] schestowitz-TR the thing is, they bought github [11:03] schestowitz-TR we need to present good reasons NOT to use it [11:03] schestowitz-TR so their takeover turns out to be WORTHLESS [11:03] schestowitz-TR and still make losses [11:03] schestowitz-TR the copilot PLAGIARISM is a good reason to avoid it [11:03] schestowitz-TR and even SFC, which took Microsoft money, decided to tell people to boycott github [11:03] schestowitz-TR so that's a plus [11:04] techrigthssec One can hope that the new generation represents a return to Free Software. [11:09] schestowitz-TR back with coffee [11:09] schestowitz-TR hundreds of small birds outside in the snow and trees [11:09] techrigthssec Schools tend to search for such students though so that they can be weeded out [11:09] techrigthssec and those that progress down the M$ pipeline generally lack not just skills but [11:09] techrigthssec aptitudes necessary for gaining ICT skills. [11:32] techrigthssec Many good reaons are listed in the lawsuit against m$ over its using to strip [11:32] techrigthssec both licensing and attribution from the code that chumps have left in GitHub [11:33] schestowitz-TR [rant] just spent 20 minutes digging through over a dozen "news" reports on the layoffs [11:33] schestowitz-TR lots wrong with them and barely clues about which divisions affected [11:34] schestowitz-TR IOW, not journalism, just parroting, parroting, parroting [11:44] techrigthssec PR dressed up as journalism [11:45] schestowitz-TR AIM has not done attack pieces on Linux [11:45] schestowitz-TR after we called them out on it [11:45] schestowitz-TR it featured in LinuxToday etc. [11:45] schestowitz-TR I'm sure they noticed [11:47] techrigthssec Or "churnalism" dressed up as news [11:47] techrigthssec Churn for the sake of keeping m$ in the news. [11:47] techrigthssec but without critique, analysis, or investigation [11:47] techrigthssec let alone actual criticism [11:47] techrigthssec Yes but they are still M$ "partners" so their goal is to promote M$ above all [11:47] techrigthssec else and their backing off is only a tactical move and most likely just [11:47] techrigthssec temporary at best [11:48] schestowitz-TR if the financial "perkjs" steop [11:48] schestowitz-TR lewiis calls them bribes [11:48] schestowitz-TR then they will move to other "topics" [11:48] schestowitz-TR or focus on other companies, potential "partners" [11:48] schestowitz-TR that would at least be a step in the "right" direction [11:48] schestowitz-TR so we need to keep at it [11:48] schestowitz-TR it does work [11:50] techrigthssec yes [11:51] schestowitz-TR tryint to think of more angles to cover [11:51] schestowitz-TR to be a thorn on their side at a time they hurt a lot [11:51] schestowitz-TR like market share erosion [11:51] schestowitz-TR I could not find out which divisions are affected [11:51] schestowitz-TR except when reading anon gossip sites [11:51] schestowitz-TR but it should be feasible for good journalists to extract [11:51] schestowitz-TR info from insiders [11:51] schestowitz-TR they JUST DO NOT TRY!!! [11:51] techrigthssec Anything in the SEC filings or are they still too sanitized to provide [11:51] techrigthssec an assessment of any kind? [11:53] schestowitz-TR for SEC they change the buckers [11:53] schestowitz-TR product/brand names [11:53] schestowitz-TR and umbrellas [11:53] schestowitz-TR e.g. "entertainment" [11:53] schestowitz-TR very value [11:53] schestowitz-TR and they can add/remove things from that reporting "silo" [11:53] schestowitz-TR so SEC is designed badly in case informing shareholders was the intent [11:54] schestowitz-TR they have inside/r info [11:54] schestowitz-TR we need insiders [11:54] schestowitz-TR I have some contacts [11:54] schestowitz-TR and this time I was spot on, even the date [11:54] schestowitz-TR 5000+6000=11,0000 [11:54] schestowitz-TR those WORKERS only know MICROSOFTISM [11:54] schestowitz-TR so finding another job is VERY HARD [11:54] schestowitz-TR not just because of the economic "climate" [11:54] schestowitz-TR I hope they change occupation [11:54] schestowitz-TR do something that does not harm society [11:56] schestowitz-TR according to gemini stats page, there is another topic/theme now competing with the layoffs :) ^_^ ● Jan 18 [12:01] schestowitz-TR adding an over-encompassing wiki page belatedly? [12:01] schestowitz-TR it would lend "credibility" (notability) [12:02] techrigthssec Not sure [12:06] techrigthssec gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/12/jan-17-layoffs-rumour/ is missing the\ [12:06] techrigthssec assessment that the downsizing can be about one third of the microserfs [12:06] techrigthssec currently on the payroll [12:08] schestowitz-TR i saw no such numbers [12:08] schestowitz-TR msft says 11k out (not "officially" yet) [12:08] schestowitz-TR same as FB [12:08] schestowitz-TR 11k, one of 3 waves apparently [12:08] schestowitz-TR 10%, 10%, 10% (some believe) [12:08] schestowitz-TR but that's FB, not MSFT [12:09] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to see much deeper cuts [12:09] schestowitz-TR but nobody is investigating [12:09] schestowitz-TR and what they "reported" oin Sky was easy [12:09] schestowitz-TR the only advantage they have is, it is "official" news site [12:09] schestowitz-TR and they asked MSFT [12:09] schestowitz-TR MSFT said, "no comment" [12:10] techrigthssec For what it's worth, you could ask m$ too so that you can point out, too, [12:10] techrigthssec that they responded with "no comment" or failed to respond at all ... [12:10] schestowitz-TR reminds me of the time around 2007 when we emailed microsoft's legal dept. [12:10] schestowitz-TR asking for a patent licence for mono [12:10] schestowitz-TR or similar [12:10] schestowitz-TR and they did reply [12:14] schestowitz-TR i wanted to tell you earlier, but reckoned you were already busy with links, [12:14] schestowitz-TR that it would help to have another pair of eyes on: [12:14] schestowitz-TR - how many laid off [12:14] schestowitz-TR - divisions [12:14] schestowitz-TR - another round this coming july? [12:14] schestowitz-TR as an aside, in tuxmachines I enter many summaries into pages but they vanish as pages age [12:14] schestowitz-TR one way to "do them justice" would be deriving from the DB a weekly/monthly page [12:14] schestowitz-TR that contains the "description" for each page [12:14] schestowitz-TR so that SEs can pick that up too [12:14] schestowitz-TR and navigation also becomes simpler [12:14] schestowitz-TR we have date, not categories [12:14] schestowitz-TR and that it fine, spare us the extra work needd in drupal ("taxonomy") [12:15] techrigthssec The few articles on th etopic have been weak and not included details like that [12:15] techrigthssec but the hint is that there are likely more rounds of layoffs to come. [12:15] techrigthssec It would be possible to extract title and description from the db and make [12:15] techrigthssec a fresh page. Can you make a mockup? [12:15] techrigthssec (in plain html) [12:17] schestowitz-TR I am going to make a mock-up later today [12:17] schestowitz-TR for date, afaik there are too fields. not secondary/primary keys: date added, date last modified [12:17] schestowitz-TR the code would be super-similar to the code that creates the main gemini page and front page [12:17] schestowitz-TR except the query SELECT part [12:17] schestowitz-TR time range specified [12:18] techrigthssec Title + Description for last n days sorted descending by date? [12:21] schestowitz-TR yes, those two can suffice in long lists, with limits that contrain page size, e.g. 2023 week 1 [12:21] schestowitz-TR or 1/1/2023 archive [12:21] schestowitz-TR January 2023 would be like 1500 links [12:21] schestowitz-TR search engines penalise pages with over 200 (Google) links, IIRC [12:22] schestowitz-TR have not checked for over a decade [12:22] schestowitz-TR but they won't crawl these deep [12:22] schestowitz-TR can also be split by author, e.g. WHERE author=joebloggs [12:22] techrigthssec I'm thinking only one page which would be updated either daily or once [12:22] techrigthssec per edit, which ever is a shorter interval. It is not good to have too many [12:22] techrigthssec redundant pages cluttering things. [12:22] techrigthssec Yes, it can be split by auther. [12:22] techrigthssec ^authhor [12:22] techrigthssec ^author [12:22] techrigthssec grouping is not a problem [12:25] schestowitz-TR such a page can be generated at the end of each month manually or by cron [12:25] schestowitz-TR or, if daily, by midnight cronjob [12:25] schestowitz-TR for gemini and https it only takes a few seconds to run and spew out the output of the query [12:25] schestowitz-TR linking to the resultant pages can be done manually, e.g. as par tof end-of-month tasks [12:25] schestowitz-TR but 1500 links in a page is too much, I think [12:25] schestowitz-TR for usenet I used to make calendar-like links that then link to subpages, made with MonARCH (ruby) [12:25] schestowitz-TR *mhonarc (iirc) ● Jan 18 [13:51] schestowitz-TR "Alas, 2023 is not likely to be any different and will probably be even more chaotic than last year" https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/18/the-uk-a-return-to-the-past-masquerading-as-the-future/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The UK: a Return to the Past Masquerading as the Future. - CounterPunch.org ● Jan 18 [15:31] schestowitz-TR Twitter censorship for patent cartels https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-pushed-twitter-to-hide-vaccine-equity-tweets-new-report-reveals/ | Source: TruthOut [15:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Big Pharma Pushed Twitter to Hide Vaccine Equity Tweets, New Report Reveals - Truthout ● Jan 18 [16:49] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Sounds legit Bill gates doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft and hasn't for years" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org ● Jan 18 [19:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:43] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 18 [21:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4veutsvi92ric.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 18 [22:18] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:19] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 18 [23:48] techrigthssec still polishing the gallery archive, redoing some processes on a RAM disk [23:48] techrigthssec next iteration, for speed