●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 18, 2023 ●●
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[01:17] schestowitz-pi the full html comes from my script
[01:17] schestowitz-pi i'm going to try to identify what code eats the whitespaces and why
[01:17] schestowitz-pi my guess is that it is something in perl
[01:17] schestowitz-pi where it analyses urls
[01:17] schestowitz-pi going to first progress on news-reading till 3am
[01:17] schestowitz-pi so far i see mostly good news
[01:17] schestowitz-pi germany ratifying upca is noa a shock
[01:17] schestowitz-pi it's what comes next that will be interesting
[01:17] schestowitz-pi i see more layoffs in companies i strongly dislike
[01:36] techrights[sec] Which script? I can look.
[01:38] schestowitz-pi there is a chain of scripts running when I call finalise script from dialogue in menu.sh on
[01:38] schestowitz-pi my machine 'vonick'
[01:38] schestowitz-pi i forgot the order in which it runs, but toc is part of it, and iirc it also pulls the latest camelcase file
[01:38] schestowitz-pi from git before it runs the rest
[01:38] schestowitz-pi there is the thing that culls empty n
[01:39] techrights[sec] something there is eating the whitespace at the end of the line and adding
which seems to be the problem
[01:56] schestowitz-pi there is the thing that culls empty nodes in the tree
[01:56] schestowitz-pi end of line is not the issue as that's to do with how the rss feeds are formatted
[01:56] schestowitz-pi the main issue is, when some text is bolded or linked the spaces
[01:56] schestowitz-pi before and after are removed
[01:56] schestowitz-pi I've not yet checked it
[01:56] schestowitz-pi as I try to gather enough material before the bulletin cutoff
[01:56] schestowitz-pi and fell behind yesterday as I did about 5 things in town
[01:56] techrights[sec] Is it the culling script? Which part of the chain is eating the spaces?
[01:58] schestowitz-pi checking....
[01:58] schestowitz-pi perl ~/Git/Links/links-interleave-social-control-media.pl \
[01:58] schestowitz-pi links-after.html > links-clean.html
[01:58] schestowitz-pi i think that _might_ be it
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[02:04] schestowitz-pi wait, maybe it happens before that
[02:04] schestowitz-pi grep href links-after.html | grep -v h5
[02:04] schestowitz-pi grep href links-clean.html | grep -v h5
[02:04] schestowitz-pi both lack the space
[02:04] schestowitz-pi perl ./links-cull-empty.pl links-clean.html | \
[02:04] schestowitz-pi perl ./links-toc.pl > links-after.html
[02:05] techrights[sec] checking
[02:07] schestowitz-pi oh i see now with git show
[02:07] schestowitz-pi are you ok with me testing this in 30 mins
[02:07] schestowitz-pi for the next batch of links?
[02:07] schestowitz-pi then i can report the outcome
[02:07] techrights[sec] sure
[02:09] schestowitz-pi backed up previous version, put new one in place instead
[02:09] schestowitz-pi will report soon....
[02:23] schestowitz-TR2 Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/16/latest-updates-stanford-president-under-investigation-for-research-misconduct/
[02:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct
[02:25] schestowitz-pi [rant] academia is full of frauds
[02:25] schestowitz-pi i cannot tell if
[02:25] schestowitz-pi 1) the phenomenon is new
[02:25] schestowitz-pi 2) it is old
[02:25] schestowitz-pi 3) it is just becoming MORE VISIBLE in the modern age
[02:25] schestowitz-pi a fish rots from the head down
[02:25] schestowitz-pi it's the same in corporations
[02:25] schestowitz-pi propelling to the top a bunch of frauds with plenty to hide
[02:25] schestowitz-pi so they bully honest people, whom they try to keep below and out of decision-making
[02:25] schestowitz-pi frauds like to hangs out with like-minded people
[02:25] schestowitz-pi and they LOVE power
[02:28] techrights[sec] I suspect it has gotten much, much worse in recent decades. The poseurs
[02:28] techrights[sec] were generally culled and unable to disturb a core. Now the core is gone
[02:28] techrights[sec] and those that would have made a core, marginalized.
[02:28] schestowitz-pi happens in admin and "research;'
[02:28] schestowitz-pi like people who forge results to "get ahead"
[02:28] schestowitz-pi and peer review cannot always catch them
[02:32] techrights[sec] Admin is the main proble: empire builders, microsofters, and such
[02:44] techrightssec peer review has mostly stopped working, and that is part of the problem.
[02:44] techrightssec that is mostly caused by the state of academic publishing and the current
[02:44] techrightssec business models which have been encouraged to develop over the last half
[02:44] techrightssec century
[02:44] techrightssec Where the whitspaces preserved
[02:44] techrightssec ?
[02:44] schestowitz-TR2 it seems to be fixed now!
[02:46] techrights[sec]
[02:46] techrights[sec] Excellent
[02:46] techrights[sec]
[02:47] schestowitz-pi i am still adapting, will improve over time
[02:47] schestowitz-pi but for now tma nd tr
[02:47] schestowitz-pi contain some extra formatting and links aside from the "main" link
[02:47] schestowitz-pi and that's a positive step forward
[02:47] schestowitz-pi sometimes these links are authoritative
[02:47] schestowitz-pi links original pdfs
[02:51] schestowitz-pi for example see last item in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml
[02:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[02:51] schestowitz-pi or this: http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_Leftovers.shtml
[02:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Debian Leftovers
[02:51] schestowitz-pi in TM, the line length limits get eliminated, but not in TR
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[03:04] schestowitz-TR2 TikTok Focused View Promises Emotion Tracking to Advertisers https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/tiktok-focused-view-promises-emotion-tracking-to-advertisers/
[03:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/tiktok-focused-view-promises-emotion-tracking-to-advertisers/ )
[03:34] techrights[sec]
[03:34] techrights[sec] checkin
[03:34] techrights[sec] g
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[04:15] schestowitz-TR2 Roblox Reports Nearly $1 Billion Net Loss in 2022 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/
[04:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ )
[04:47] schestowitz-TR2 The problem is not the burning but the people who react to these https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/norway-dispatch-annual-police-threat-assessment-highlights-risk-of-extremism-in-the-wake-of-quran-burnings-elsewhere-in-scandinavia/
[04:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jurist.org | Norway dispatch: annual police threat assessment highlights risk of extremism in the wake of Quran burnings elsewhere in Scandinavia - JURIST - News
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[13:28] schestowitz-pi i wanted to share something while offline
[13:28] schestowitz-pi forgot, but it was not important anyway
[13:28] schestowitz-pi meanwhile, in irc there was some trolling
[13:28] schestowitz-pi not severe case of trolling
[13:28] schestowitz-pi but maybe I should be selective who to reply to
[13:28] schestowitz-pi i really would rather post links and such
[13:28] schestowitz-pi then all sorts of other possible uses of time
[13:28] schestowitz-pi *then
[13:28] schestowitz-pi *than
[13:28] schestowitz-pi still getting accustomed to a new arrangement of days
[13:28] schestowitz-pi and workflow
[13:28] schestowitz-pi going to use firefox in a moment
[13:28] schestowitz-pi discounts at the local stores for "fresh" foods are getting harder to find
[13:28] schestowitz-pi often empty-handed visits
[13:28] schestowitz-pi so wholesales will become preferable too, as long as they last...
[13:40] techrights[sec] ack
[13:41] schestowitz-pi just spoke to relative in yorkshire for an hour
[13:41] schestowitz-pi says many more people in streets, some in tents
[13:41] schestowitz-pi in centre of town
[13:41] schestowitz-pi and it was not like this before
[13:41] schestowitz-pi spoke about health and other issues
[13:41] schestowitz-pi reached conclusion that living in an island if better than bunker
[13:41] schestowitz-pi owing to isolation, distance
[13:41] schestowitz-pi but some islands are attracting too much attention now
[13:41] schestowitz-pi getting congested and "projects"
[13:41] schestowitz-pi after 2020 many homes outside towns, not apartment, rose in "value"
[13:41] schestowitz-pi living in overpriced shoeboxes is not so trendy anymore
[13:41] schestowitz-pi with frugality and longtime savings we can 'run on empty' for over a decade
[13:41] schestowitz-pi and assess the situatio
[13:41] schestowitz-pi n
[13:57] schestowitz-pi sorry to be talking about rather off-topic matters, back to more relevant powwow,
[13:57] schestowitz-pi i wonder how to 'streamline' our two scripts so as to get the html/body and the summary/overview
[13:57] schestowitz-pi in one fell swoop
[13:58] schestowitz-pi i am going to look at the code later to study overlaps
[13:58] schestowitz-pi i think it is a massive improvement to have in-line formatting for blockquote parts in TM and TR
[13:58] schestowitz-pi other syndicators lack that, through old-tm does have a syndication component that includes such
[13:58] schestowitz-pi bits
[13:58] techrights[sec] cat | tidy | de-duplicate.pl
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[14:01] schestowitz-pi btw, engadgetbecame a spamfarm akin to cnet, similar tactics and overlap
[14:01] schestowitz-pi zdnet is barely active, looks like editors do 1-2 times a week rota now
[14:01] schestowitz-pi so they publish in bursts, then go silent
[14:01] schestowitz-pi same cms and company as cnet
[14:01] schestowitz-pi when you see full body html it's rather blatant, like URLs 4 lines long all over the place (referrer parts)
[14:01] schestowitz-pi it's seo and spamfarming
[14:02] techrights[sec] A lot of sites have diminished and/or turned to spammishness. Others have
[14:02] techrights[sec] just plain closed down.
[14:02] schestowitz-pi indeed
[14:03] schestowitz-pi the former category was handed over to 'cleaners' or monetisers
[14:03] schestowitz-pi milking what's left and selling the horse to a delicatessen
[14:03] techrights[sec] India seems to still have investments in media and journalism, but tech
[14:03] techrights[sec] coverage is very, very weak.
[14:05] schestowitz-pi be careful, a lot of their english-speaking media reposts the same texts in many domains
[14:05] schestowitz-pi and i suspect some of it is composed elsewhere and presented as "original"
[14:05] schestowitz-pi if you compare paragraphs you can see they are recycling
[14:05] schestowitz-pi but spamnil is miles worse, he's not even editorialising things
[14:05] schestowitz-pi he and monika just copy-paste corporate spam
[14:05] schestowitz-pi spwmnil is still violating youtube TOS, but fewer videos to click
[14:06] techrights[sec] It is difficult to find and follow quality sites. Many appear to be mostly
[14:06] techrights[sec] plagiarism.
[14:06] techrights[sec] TOS and CoC only apply to opponents of M$
[14:07] schestowitz-pi coc = "professionalism" = submissive to power (oligarchy
[14:07] schestowitz-pi that does not mean that coc violators are freedom fighters
[14:07] schestowitz-pi many are actual asshole, but risky to generalise
[14:07] schestowitz-pi that's how a coc gets sold
[14:14] schestowitz-pi a motto for TMis, no need to editorialise news if you can boost the original
[14:14] schestowitz-pi and curate what's important
[14:14] schestowitz-pi phoronix is considered "blogspam" in reddit
[14:14] schestowitz-pi because it can be biased for the originals
[14:14] schestowitz-pi and no ads
[14:14] schestowitz-pi but if you have nothing original to report, why not link to the developer's platform?
[14:14] schestowitz-pi either way, just curation and management of the signal can go a long way
[14:14] schestowitz-pi linuxtoday i cannot bear because you must open a ling with js and ads just to open the
[14:14] schestowitz-pi original story
[14:14] schestowitz-pi and they post very olkd and unimportant stuff, maybe 4 items per day
[14:14] schestowitz-pi while missing the actually emergent/breaking/important news
[14:14] schestowitz-pi linuxtoday invested way too much time building audience in tw
[14:19] techrights[sec] Twitter is and always was a massive waste of time and e
[14:21] schestowitz-pi nobody -- least me -- thought it would go down THIS fast
[14:21] schestowitz-pi india offices shuttered
[14:21] schestowitz-pi funnelled traffic to elonmusk
[14:21] schestowitz-pi now worth $44,000,000,000
[14:21] schestowitz-pi not even $44,000,000
[14:21] schestowitz-pi *lest
[14:21] schestowitz-pi *not
[14:21] schestowitz-pi sorry, still typoing
[14:21] schestowitz-pi need to change terminal font
[14:24] schestowitz-pi bringing the screen closer too
[14:24] schestowitz-pi it's the raspi400
[14:24] schestowitz-pi very weird day today, lots of mumble and experimentation with things
[14:24] schestowitz-pi lots of coffee, too
[14:32] schestowitz-pi i use the percolator
[14:32] schestowitz-pi got some blends at the wholesale market
[14:32] schestowitz-pi 2 litres of coffee help suppress appetite
[14:32] schestowitz-pi but only about once a week
[14:32] schestowitz-pi the rest is tea or protein shakes
[14:32] schestowitz-pi we keep finding more protein shakes than we can finish
[14:32] schestowitz-pi helps with weight lo
[14:35] schestowitz-pi if properly dressed, i can job in the streets on my way to errands
[14:35] schestowitz-pi as done yesterday and today
[14:35] schestowitz-pi cardio
[14:35] schestowitz-pi the consensus today was, many people known to people get sick
[14:35] schestowitz-pi some permanently
[14:35] schestowitz-pi i got invited to a party but turned it down
[14:35] schestowitz-pi too many people
[14:35] schestowitz-pi /s/job/jog/
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[14:51] schestowitz-pi of note: quality of stories in hackaday fell shrply about a year ago when they
[14:51] schestowitz-pi changed the editor
[14:51] schestowitz-pi but it is still better than some of the equivalent sites, of which
[14:52] schestowitz-pi of which there are very
[14:53] schestowitz-pi few
[14:53] techrights[sec] I stopped reading Hackaday for the most part
[14:53] techrights[sec] It still has occasional gems though.
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[15:16] schestowitz-TR2 Working from home attracts people from big cities to the suburbs https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html
[15:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html )
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[15:23] schestowitz-pi today I spoke about living in an island
[15:23] schestowitz-pi but the issue that came up was
[15:23] schestowitz-pi too many tourists
[15:23] schestowitz-pi and industrialisationm
[15:23] schestowitz-pi so what you root for today can change profoundly over time
[15:23] schestowitz-pi serene places won't stay that way if they get "discovered"
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[22:49] schestowitz-TR2 Internal review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents Alzheimers research, colleagues allege https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/internal-review-found-falsified-data-in-stanford-presidents-alzheimers-research-colleagues-allege/
[22:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents research, colleagues allege
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[23:35] schestowitz-pi it would take very strong evidence to prove there were special intents and forces trying
[23:35] schestowitz-pi to drive mycroft out of the market for privacy reasons
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