●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 18, 2022 ●● ● Jul 18 [01:58] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:59] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [06:44] Techrights-sec excellent [06:46] schestowitz-TR I've only installed openssh so far, we should write down all the steps and things we install [06:46] schestowitz-TR we can also migrate links, git etc. [06:55] schestowitz-TR One forecast tells me tomorrow it'll be 40 degrees here -- an all-time record AFAIK, but 2 other forecasts/sources do not agree [06:56] Techrights-sec can the new system reach the old system via the internal LAN? [06:56] Techrights-sec If so, that route would be the fast way to use wget to spider the old [06:56] Techrights-sec site into static pages for the archive [06:56] schestowitz-TR for now I don't plan to copy across the old nodes, as they have things in them that depend on Drupal [06:57] Techrights-sec ok, so we'll leave the old stuff in drupal. how long will the drupal archive [06:57] Techrights-sec be left running? It should be converted to static at some point. [06:59] schestowitz-TR yes, but not yet. copying from one container to another is simple, but I don't want to f* around with susan's multi-page stories [06:59] schestowitz-TR there are many of them [06:59] schestowitz-TR you can access the new TR container via hv in the usual way lxde-attack *IIRC [06:59] schestowitz-TR *lxd [06:59] schestowitz-TR and then adduser git [06:59] schestowitz-TR adduser linkx etc. [06:59] schestowitz-TR apk add openssh [06:59] schestowitz https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/ [06:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/ ) ● Jul 18 [07:00] schestowitz-TR we've left systemd behind for now [07:02] Techrights-sec The ability to delete records is now available in the mockup [07:02] Techrights-sec it's getting closer to a proof-of-concept tool [07:02] Techrights-sec Next, adding navigation capabilities to the extraction script [07:02] Techrights-sec TR or TM_ [07:02] Techrights-sec ? [07:02] Techrights-sec ok [07:02] Techrights-sec excellent, though we don't know what is brewing in that regard over in redmond [07:02] Techrights-sec there's been nearly complete silence regarding their acquisition of lennart [07:02] Techrights-sec so they must have some nasty plans in the works [07:02] schestowitz-TR on tm vm, run ps aux [07:02] schestowitz-TR and see how thin it is [07:02] schestowitz-TR I plan to pay kaniini soon [07:03] Techrights-sec I've done that before and appreciated the leanness [07:04] schestowitz-TR kaniini wants us to keep tidy,, with git or ci or... [07:04] schestowitz-TR which I agree with, now we have a chance to tidy up a lot [07:04] schestowitz-TR whilelegay still runs OK, we can pass things over one at a time without any deadlines [07:12] Techrights-sec ok git ought to be the first thing installed then [07:12] Techrights-sec I've added the package Git [07:12] Techrights-sec later, the hard part of adding and managing a repository [07:12] Techrights-sec I presume we should have system accounts for all participants? [07:13] schestowitz-TR *while legacy [07:13] schestowitz-TR yes, I think it's how it works now, with keys [07:25] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:32] schestowitz-TR I think you can migrate /home/git as is, to the new machine [07:32] schestowitz-TR then I can register git.techrights.org to point to the new machine [07:32] schestowitz-TR piece-widse migration [07:36] Techrights-sec no that's the TR Git repository, the TM one is a separate project [07:36] Techrights-sec or, wait, which one are we talking about? I've been thinking about TM [07:36] Techrights-sec but should we look at TR first? [07:38] schestowitz-TR ah, ok, you want to have TM with its own new repo, which makes sense too [07:38] schestowitz-TR can adduser git and set that afresh [07:38] schestowitz-TR there can be git.tuxmachines.org with the same ip as "news" [07:38] schestowitz-TR you can set your commits as anon username [07:38] schestowitz-TR the TR git has just a few bits and pieces from TM but not much [07:39] schestowitz-TR we can migrate those files over [07:40] Techrights-sec ack [07:42] schestowitz-TR at some point we can move tmux over as well, with monitor-techrights.sh [07:42] schestowitz-TR I recreated the session last ight after tghe reboots (rather, vm restarts for xfs)repair) [07:42] schestowitz-TR you can read that in the irc logs circa 10pm ● Jul 18 [08:07] Techrights-sec added tmux to TM-new also [08:09] schestowitz-TR thanks, after 12 years (even 12 years, 3 months) we can leave the boycottn username behind too, I suppose [08:09] schestowitz-TR the old domain is still used a lot [08:09] schestowitz-TR some scripts will need changing if the username gets changed, but at least the reasons [08:09] schestowitz-TR aren't IBM and Microsoft claiming "offence" [08:11] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:13] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:21] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:21] schestowitz-TR finishing work in 40 mins [08:21] schestowitz-TR around midday we'll be out to cycle for food, so 4 hours from now [08:21] schestowitz-TR price of things went up, but discounts exist still, just a tad harder to find (where and when) [08:24] Techrights-sec tm-update can go by record number (not pratical, but precise) or by URL [08:24] Techrights-sec to either update or delete now [08:26] schestowitz-TR url is good [08:26] schestowitz-TR to explain workflow in nutshell [08:26] schestowitz-TR rianne or I found article [08:26] schestowitz-TR we knew we had seen it [08:26] schestowitz-TR opened browser [08:26] schestowitz-TR typed in headline similar, e.g. mint [08:26] schestowitz-TR it autompletes [08:26] schestowitz-TR "that's the one I wanted to add to" [08:26] schestowitz-TR so the address is easy to retrieve [08:26] schestowitz-TR I think ideally the update will go at the top [08:26] schestowitz-TR and then the node needs to be bumped up in the site to indicate the update [08:27] Techrights-sec yes, though it is a bit brittle but that's the cost of customization [08:27] Techrights-sec I figure it's a bit easier and takes out unnecessary extra steps and cognitive [08:27] Techrights-sec effort [08:27] Techrights-sec The updated nodes get bumped to the current day, hours are not tracked [08:28] schestowitz-TR iirc, most irc clients will detect change in date (or title with "Update" added) [08:28] schestowitz-TR and then display as new [08:28] schestowitz-TR not irc lients [08:28] schestowitz-TR rss clients [08:28] Techrights-sec ack ● Jul 18 [09:00] *britney has quit (connection closed) [09:02] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:29] schestowitz-TR today 2 videos and one manually curated, devuan [09:29] schestowitz-TR going to clean all the stuff there, then record re epo [09:29] schestowitz-TR i slept too well, knowing we have the two new vms [09:29] schestowitz-TR overslept by 3.5 hours [09:29] Techrights-sec excellent. the EPO stuff is strategically important [09:29] Techrights-sec that's good on occasion [09:29] Techrights-sec probably needed this time [09:31] schestowitz-TR it's still weekend anyway [09:31] schestowitz-TR today's links will be quick to clean, you added just 3 to an already-small pool of automated [09:31] schestowitz-TR I want to work on the sites later [09:31] schestowitz-TR but I fell behind on epo videos [09:31] schestowitz-TR partly because it's too hot here to record comfortably [09:31] Techrights-sec today is Monday already [09:31] Techrights-sec yes it varies but on average keeps getting smaller [09:31] Techrights-sec I've been working on ideas for the navigation. [09:32] schestowitz-TR when I said it's weekend I meant the news cyclke has not begun yet [09:32] schestowitz-TR so better to sleep more now, less the following night [09:32] schestowitz-TR strategic storage of capacity to work [09:33] Techrights-sec yes. the weekends are even slower. now it is also the middle of summer for [09:33] Techrights-sec the northern hemisphere [09:35] schestowitz-TR I remmeber summers as a student in the faculty looking for linux picks in summer [09:35] schestowitz-TR they had events like LinuxWorld (IDG) [09:35] schestowitz-TR so no lack of news [09:35] schestowitz-TR just a little slower [09:35] schestowitz-TR but that was 16 years and and I was paid by netscape to post some stuff [09:35] schestowitz-TR like Linux gadgets when the OS was not yet de facto standard [09:35] schestowitz-TR and growing fast nevertheless [09:35] schestowitz-TR a lot still used wince [09:46] Techrights-sec ack ● Jul 18 [10:32] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 18 [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:54] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 18 [12:37] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [12:37] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR ● Jul 18 [13:04] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:05] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [13:05] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR [13:26] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [14:00] Techrights-sec some simple navigation has been added, and the workflow.sh file tweaked slightly [14:07] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [14:24] schestowitz-TR back, new epo material [14:24] schestowitz-TR new food [14:24] schestowitz-TR catching up [14:24] schestowitz-TR the epo issues are very relevant to many orgs [14:24] schestowitz-TR and the ilo rulings become precedents [14:24] schestowitz-TR it's a long doc, will take a while to htmlify (and tsxity/gemify) it [14:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [15:02] Techrights-sec ack [15:02] Techrights-sec ack [15:03] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:31] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [16:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [16:50] Techrights-sec ack [16:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 18 [19:11] Techrights-sec just tweaked the nav menu css to center much better [19:11] Techrights-sec in the mockup [19:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zidwjyvg9uxzg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:33] Techrights-sec it looks like SQLite3 could still be used even with a local search function: [19:33] Techrights-sec https://www.sqlite.org/lockingv3.html [19:33] Techrights-sec since multiple concurrent reads are ok [19:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.sqlite.org | File Locking And Concurrency In SQLite Version 3 [19:34] schestowitz-TR readsing draft [19:34] schestowitz-TR excellent, having an index for it accessible would enable a lot of slicing [19:34] schestowitz-TR and without the extra complexity of durpal schemas [19:34] schestowitz-TR they change every major release of drupl [19:34] schestowitz-TR very dumb design, I know [19:34] schestowitz-TR have you done further work on the new VMs? [19:35] Techrights-sec ack [19:35] Techrights-sec not since earlier, added Git and tmux but did nothing more [19:35] Techrights-sec it was too big a change in thinking and I was on a roll for a while with [19:35] Techrights-sec the scripts [19:36] schestowitz-TR for me it is a game of survival with the heat [19:36] schestowitz-TR trying not to sweat [19:36] schestowitz-TR took a nap a while ago [19:36] schestowitz-TR I will clearn my rss feeds before work [19:52] Techrights-sec siesta [19:52] Techrights-sec the tm-extract-posts-sql.pl script now adds minor navigation links to each [19:52] Techrights-sec static page as part of the generation of each page. 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