●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 19, 2023 ●● ● Feb 19 [00:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [01:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [02:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [02:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [04:09] schestowitz-pi i kept a copy of rrrrr07.py [04:09] schestowitz-pi and made a lousy patch that interjects my scripts into it [04:09] schestowitz-pi block of stuff thrown in [04:09] schestowitz-pi and some more at the header [04:09] schestowitz-pi sort of undoing and aborting atm [04:09] schestowitz-pi as it would have too many drawbacks [04:09] schestowitz-pi like a script writing to two separate files [04:09] schestowitz-pi and one doing it serially, another in parallel [04:09] schestowitz-pi maybe the better option is to align firefox and kate in the same virtual desktop somehow ● Feb 19 [05:39] schestowitz-pi i have made a few changes to mine [05:39] schestowitz-pi the main issue with it at the moment is error handling [05:39] schestowitz-pi which needs extra exceptions [05:40] schestowitz-pi the merge efforts I'll leave canned for now [05:40] schestowitz-pi it was not a good idea [05:40] schestowitz-pi it's good that I changed my mind when it was still early prototype [05:40] schestowitz-pi maybe I can graft some error handliing bits from it [05:40] schestowitz-pi they both use the same lib to process feeds ● Feb 19 [06:33] schestowitz-pi let me upload the latest.... 1 min [06:33] schestowitz-pi ok, overriden [06:33] schestowitz-pi on /tmp [06:33] schestowitz-pi the main issue was handling the weird responses [06:33] schestowitz-pi bak in 2 hours (wholesal ● Feb 19 [09:39] schestowitz-pi bak in 2 hours (wholesale) [09:39] schestowitz-pi wow, thanks, gonna try this now [09:39] schestowitz-pi today we saved 'only' about 50 pounds [09:39] schestowitz-pi no protein shakes founds, but we bring them in faster than we can finish them [09:39] schestowitz-pi ok, fetcing the scripts [09:39] schestowitz-pi in recent days the daily links alone can be close to 7000 lines in bulletins [09:39] schestowitz-pi and I spend very little time on memes these days as they are not a priority [09:39] schestowitz-pi and not useful for gemini [09:42] schestowitz-pi gemini://ten2.one/recipes-from-afar.gmi [09:59] schestowitz-pi have chedked all 4 files, or the 3 new ones [09:59] schestowitz-pi ./rrrrrr.08.py --open --citation ../roy-feeds.opml > 08.html [09:59] schestowitz-pi am i missing some parameter for output file name? [09:59] schestowitz-pi the other two I've not run/used yet ● Feb 19 [10:16] schestowitz-pi i think i am using it wrong [10:16] schestowitz-pi the output file is the same with the suggested command [10:16] schestowitz-pi and I've not tried roy.opml.py [10:23] schestowitz-pi on /tmp feedlist.html shows the output of feedlist.py [10:23] schestowitz-pi with all its limitations [10:23] schestowitz-pi i see now in the code that it uses xhtml for citation [10:23] schestowitz-pi xsl definition [10:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [11:10] schestowitz-pi ok, i can see the misunderstanding now [11:10] schestowitz-pi the python file makes opml from the list [11:10] schestowitz-pi it is then fed into rrrrr [11:10] schestowitz-pi feedlist.py and feedlist.html show what was done [11:42] schestowitz-pi to explain in words, rrrr takes opml file and extracts strings from it, then building a tree [11:42] schestowitz-pi of links, wheras feedlist uses a flattened opml file (which beame just a list of strings) [11:42] schestowitz-pi and thengoes through each at the time, with output of item/entry bosy included [11:42] schestowitz-pi why i wanted to use rrrr: its handling of tough feeds is more robust [11:42] schestowitz-pi the existing script seems to convert backwars the list of feeds into an opml file [11:49] schestowitz-pi fwiw, the exception handling in quiterss was never great either; for both myself and rianne it [11:49] schestowitz-pi would sometimes crash if a site went offline and it would take hours to track down the culprit [11:49] schestowitz-pi i.e. which feed to delete/disanle to prevent the whole application crashing ● Feb 19 [12:15] schestowitz-pi i was thinking, at first, that grafting some parts from rrrrr would help tackle some tough ones [12:15] schestowitz-pi then tries to go the other way, embedding things in the loop of rrrrr [12:15] schestowitz-pi thanks for the new option in rrrr [12:15] schestowitz-pi and for the opml builder [12:15] schestowitz-pi i am going to try to identify the 'offending''''''''''''''''' rss feeds instead [12:15] schestowitz-pi while maintaining the currently workflow [12:15] schestowitz-pi the more i thought about this for weeks, the clearer it became those needed to [12:15] schestowitz-pi remain separate [12:15] schestowitz-pi but i enby the good exception handling in rrrr [12:15] schestowitz-pi i am going to spend sunday separating good feeds from bad feeds [12:15] schestowitz-pi apropos, had i imported this opml into quiterss (haven't done so), [12:15] schestowitz-pi I'd then need to disable quite a few important entries in order for it to refresh [12:15] schestowitz-pi without crashing [12:16] schestowitz-pi HECK :-) in the process i might as well remove feeds that are known to be more noise [12:16] schestowitz-pi than signal [12:21] schestowitz-pi task well overdue, also removing urls of stuff already in riss_since and maybe foreign langs [12:21] schestowitz-pi unrelated: strikes in german arirports; travel has become risky and unreliable [12:21] schestowitz-pi you book and pray it'll go as planned [12:31] schestowitz-pi it'll take a long time, but it was wishful thinking, thinking dumping 1000+ feeds into a python lib [12:31] schestowitz-pi would be effortless and work well [12:31] schestowitz-pi it's just that back then I did not know what tools would become available later [12:34] schestowitz-pi we now have [12:34] schestowitz-pi ompl flattener [12:34] schestowitz-pi sincd 2 years ago [12:34] schestowitz-pi list of feeds -> opml [12:34] schestowitz-pi list (flat) -> body dump [12:34] schestowitz-pi rrr -> opml-to-html [12:34] schestowitz-pi they all process of expose news data in diffeent ways [12:34] schestowitz-pi *or [12:42] schestowitz-pi 1) informing people of ANYTHING RSS reminds them people use these, so that is good [12:42] schestowitz-pi 2)seeing phoronix atm, low s/n ratio [12:42] schestowitz-pi 3) will devote all day to improving workflow, i estimate productivity went up 20-40% [12:52] schestowitz-pi somebody who works WITH FSFE had some doubts and asked about pocock and other [12:52] schestowitz-pi criticisms [12:52] schestowitz-pi he later suggested I can edit wikipedia if it needs correcting [12:52] schestowitz-pi but seeing what pocock wrote about FSFE breaking Wikipedia rulesa [12:53] schestowitz-pi and seeing how OSI is manipulating Wikipedia [12:53] schestowitz-pi I'd not bother with that stupid sitee [12:53] schestowitz-pi waste of time [12:53] schestowitz-pi it's run by people with jobs, like reputation laundering jobs [12:53] schestowitz-pi I would be just some 'volunteer' ● Feb 19 [13:13] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [14:30] schestowitz-TR2 Jos insecurity exploited to make people's lives 1) miserable. 2) less safe (pandemic) https://gizmodo.com/amazon-return-to-office-remote-work-big-tech-1850129574 [14:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | Amazon CEO Says Employees Must Return to Office Starting May 1 [14:55] schestowitz-pi *job [14:57] schestowitz-pi when sites change their feed url, evenif they announce it, it can doom them for good [14:57] schestowitz-pi our feed urls in TM and TR have been the same for ages [14:57] schestowitz-pi a regular loyal reader can be thousands of visits [14:57] schestowitz-pi Google 'search' does not give that [14:57] schestowitz-pi Most people no longer use bookmarks [14:59] schestowitz-TR2 And somehow Lunduke, who used to worm for Microsoft, cannot explain why Windows sucks? Only its competition sucks? https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-all-sorts-of-suck-mega-event [14:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | The "All Sorts of Suck" Mega Event! - by Bryan Lunduke ● Feb 19 [15:24] schestowitz-pi i've been removing, along the way, feeds that are in rss_since [15:24] schestowitz-pi to avoid seeing the same things several times [15:24] schestowitz-pi still waiting for todaay's Links batch ● Feb 19 [16:09] schestowitz-pi one fish started staying lower then usual, and swimming with head elevated somewhat [16:09] schestowitz-pi not sure what to make of it, have read https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/ [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/ ) ● Feb 19 [17:14] schestowitz-pi going to sleep in a bit [17:14] schestowitz-pi that fish, observed a lot today, is not doing too badly [17:14] schestowitz-pi but I observe and take note of patterns to avoid reponding when it's too late [17:14] schestowitz-pi i put some potions in the water [17:14] schestowitz-pi and cleaned the filter among other things [17:14] schestowitz-pi she turns 1.5 next week [17:14] schestowitz-pi my posting workflow improved a lot today [17:14] schestowitz-pi it was time well invested and i now use rrrr-v08 ● Feb 19 [21:11] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [22:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cqsdsa6g92swu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 19 [23:11] schestowitz-pi merged and other-links for Sunday not uploaded [23:11] schestowitz-pi can they still be reconstructed for a prior date? [23:11] schestowitz-pi checking the opml files now, thanks! :) [23:12] techrights[sec] Tidied the feeds you had. See /tmp/roy.feeds-round02.opml [23:12] techrights[sec] Some feeds listed as good are only technically correct and consist only of [23:12] techrights[sec] filler or placeholders due to mistakes either in the CMS configuration or [23:12] techrights[sec] design. [23:12] techrights[sec] /tmp/roy.opml.py (more annotations for the defective sites)