●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 19, 2022 ●● ● Sep 19 [02:23] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:23] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [03:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:57] Techrights-sec2 yes, there's not a stable way to keep it going continuously, it should be back [03:57] Techrights-sec2 after a few seconds but that's not always reliable either. the software [03:57] Techrights-sec2 it uses is apparently not quite ready. [03:58] schestowitz-TR it's back :) [03:58] schestowitz-TR we had cake last night [03:58] schestowitz-TR spent time with the swans ● Sep 19 [04:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [04:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:37] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 19 [06:55] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [07:30] schestowitz-TR 07:30] DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: UNIQUE constraint failed: rawtext.recno at /usr/local/bin/tm-add-entry-sql.pl line 789. [07:30] schestowitz-TR [07:30] (just now, my side [07:35] Techrights-sec2 I think it was [07:35] Techrights-sec2 (try again please I was just thinking about that race condition, it may mean [07:35] Techrights-sec2 rewriting part but I'll have to read up on it) [07:35] Techrights-sec2 It should work now for him, too. [07:37] schestowitz-TR thanks, we will retry [07:37] schestowitz-TR same outcome when I try to add again the Gemini links (cluster) [07:37] schestowitz-TR same error message shown [07:42] Techrights-sec2 checking [07:42] Techrights-sec2 Found it. Thanks for spotting the problem. One-off work-around in place, [07:42] Techrights-sec2 it should work now properly for adding and editing. However some changes [07:42] Techrights-sec2 are needed for deleting. [07:42] Techrights-sec2 Please try now. [07:45] schestowitz-TR trying same post [07:45] schestowitz-TR now it works/ed [07:45] schestowitz-TR and I see the test page, too [07:45] schestowitz-TR should I ask that guy to try again too? [07:48] Techrights-sec2 I'll try deleting the test page now [07:50] schestowitz-TR thanks, good time to test things while it's quiet [07:51] Techrights-sec2 Fortunately it was not the race condition I worried about, but that might have [07:51] Techrights-sec2 to be addressed anyway for prevention perhaps. [07:51] Techrights-sec2 Try one more and if it works, then have him try again too. [07:56] schestowitz-TR I don't have any material left atm ^_^ [07:56] schestowitz-TR but I see arindam added a page moments ago [07:56] schestowitz-TR I will pst today in TR [07:58] Techrights-sec2 Excellent! [07:58] Techrights-sec2 I'm still worried though about what happens when two people add at the same [07:58] Techrights-sec2 time since I am still a novice at SQL and may have guessed wrong about how [07:58] Techrights-sec2 to prevent that. Yes [07:58] Techrights-sec2 which script? [07:59] schestowitz-TR you added some debug options, I think [07:59] schestowitz-TR unknown options r and b [07:59] schestowitz-TR 3 times over [07:59] schestowitz-TR but it completes OK [07:59] schestowitz-TR page shows up [07:59] schestowitz-TR in add script ● Sep 19 [08:03] Techrights-sec2 I see it now. The optons were actually reoved from the underlyingscript [08:03] Techrights-sec2 s but now need to be removed from the wrapper ● Sep 19 [09:13] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@zx4r4gr9htgby.irc) has left #boycottnovell (Leaving.) ● Sep 19 [10:10] *roy (~quassel@freenode-8e624o.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:10] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [10:11] *roy (~quassel@freenode-8e624o.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:11] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [10:11] *roy (~quassel@freenode-8e624o.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:11] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [10:11] *Techrights-sec has quit (Z-lined) [10:11] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [10:41] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [10:41] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [10:42] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [11:34] schestowitz-TR "trends" posted 2 pages already [11:35] schestowitz-TR he is thankful [11:35] schestowitz-TR OTA in a moment [11:35] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:55] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:59] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 19 [12:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:22] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:26] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:30] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:31] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [13:29] Techrights-sec2 checking [13:29] Techrights-sec2 title needs reworking somehow [13:29] Techrights-sec2 A line about why UEFI / Restricted boot is problematic, perhaps in conjunction with a link [13:29] schestowitz-TR dreaft [13:29] schestowitz-TR just modified the text as you suggested [13:32] schestowitz-TR --- [13:32] schestowitz-TR I find it improbable this a) is true and b) not accidental [13:32] schestowitz-TR will need soem research [13:32] schestowitz-TR major scandal otherwise [13:32] schestowitz-TR also, codecs ~= DRM [13:32] schestowitz-TR DRM is DRM [13:32] schestowitz-TR codecs can deal with encryption )secret translation) in streams [13:32] schestowitz-TR but that's not the same, it is the transport layer [13:32] schestowitz-TR so I am left scratching my head over that claim [13:32] schestowitz-TR gnome (IBM) wants uefi enables for 'secure' boot [13:33] schestowitz-TR Red Hat pushes this into Linux [13:33] schestowitz-TR irc got interesting todayn around 6am [13:48] schestowitz-TR bellard did not write anything for drm ;-) [13:49] schestowitz-TR vlc does not count, nor does qemu [13:55] schestowitz-TR uefi is mnot one thing [13:55] schestowitz-TR they are not all the same [13:55] schestowitz-TR diff vers and implementations [13:57] Techrights-sec2 Yes, there are many different distos of UEFI. They seem to be a general [13:57] Techrights-sec2 category of full OS (though not a general-purpose OS) without standardization [13:57] Techrights-sec2 or uniformity. ● Sep 19 [14:13] Techrights-sec2 Security holes and all... [14:14] schestowitz-TR microsoft tells nsa how to breach its stuff [14:14] schestowitz-TR before bothering to patch anything [14:14] schestowitz-TR even when it's actiovely exploited microsoft just waits [14:14] schestowitz-TR we know this [14:14] schestowitz-TR boot level: BEFORE any OS starts [14:14] schestowitz-TR so OS-agnostic [14:14] schestowitz-TR but now HW-agnostic [14:18] psydroid2 general-purpose computing is dying, it's DRM slavery now [14:19] schestowitz-TR maybe [14:19] schestowitz-TR but if it's true that [14:19] schestowitz-TR DRM is creeping that is built on top of DRM [14:19] schestowitz-TR not just the Vista DRM [14:19] schestowitz-TR but also 'secure' boot [14:19] schestowitz-TR then proof would be needed [14:19] schestowitz-TR the xplanation might be simpler [14:19] schestowitz-TR and also, Mint developers would know what's going on [14:20] schestowitz-TR and someone would blurt it out [14:20] Techrights-sec2 Limited to x86 ... so far [14:20] schestowitz-TR i meant not, 'now' was a typo [14:23] schestowitz-TR "Not my king" implies that another king can or should exist. "Not accepting kings" would be a clearer statement, but social control media giants (like Twitter, owned partly by the Saudi ROYAL family) control hashes and tags, trends and visibility. [14:36] Techrights-sec2 ack [14:39] schestowitz-TR head a biy overloaded today with things that I wanted to say but forgot to say [14:39] schestowitz-TR but I am managing to catch up with forgotten thoughts though [14:39] schestowitz-TR mostly mnemonic taactics, note-taking [14:39] schestowitz-TR I thought about doing a video on FSF, GNU, and SFC, but I am not 100% sure what goes on there [14:39] schestowitz-TR it's a bit cryptic [14:39] schestowitz-TR some internal fights and internal comms [14:39] schestowitz-TR trademarks, owership, copyrights [14:39] schestowitz-TR it is important to not say something thaty later turns out to be untrue [14:39] schestowitz-TR there is a lack of transparency [14:39] schestowitz-TR also notice how quiet fsfe became [14:47] Techrights-sec2 ack [14:52] psydroid2 "a deeply corruption institution" -> "a deeply corrupted institution" [14:56] schestowitz-TR ah, thanks!! [14:56] schestowitz-TR Our New Unelected Queen is Liz Trump (TruSS), Selected Undemocratically by About 1 in 1,000 Brits (0.1%) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/19/liz-trump/ [14:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Our New Unelected Queen is Liz Trump (TruSS), Selected Undemocratically by About 1 in 1,000 Brits (0.1%) ● Sep 19 [15:02] schestowitz-TR RANT: [15:02] schestowitz-TR I'm truly stick and tired of straw men args in the media [15:02] schestowitz-TR when looking for articles about liz and covid [15:02] schestowitz-TR I found so-called 'fact checkers' [15:02] schestowitz-TR they checked claims tht VACCINES killed Liz [15:02] schestowitz-TR not that the virus itself weakened her [15:02] schestowitz-TR which it did, she openly admitted it [15:02] schestowitz-TR I use searX [15:02] schestowitz-TR but it's not doing its own crawling [15:03] schestowitz-TR so it inherits the prtopaganda from those that crawl, sort, deliver [15:03] schestowitz-TR The WWW is a "shit machine" [15:03] schestowitz-TR end RANT [15:03] schestowitz-TR *sick and tired [15:03] schestowitz-TR *straw man [15:03] schestowitz-TR I dread even entering the name bill gates [15:03] schestowitz-TR and find what BS was upvoted or promoted [15:03] schestowitz-TR while deranking not cranks [15:03] schestowitz-TR but factual article that billG wants to hide [15:03] schestowitz-TR remember he pays Gulag for ads [15:03] schestowitz-TR youtube was full of ads of his [15:03] schestowitz-TR prior to the divorce at least [15:03] schestowitz-TR he pays Microsoft's competitor [15:03] schestowitz-TR that is how desperate he is to whiten his name [15:08] schestowitz-TR regarding note-taking, I heard this thing before about playback, but I think it was from you [15:20] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [15:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:21] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@r4f7aecfmiahk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [16:00] Techrights-sec2 ack [16:00] schestowitz-TR you talk about pentagon taking control of computing [16:00] schestowitz-TR and then the channel starts talking about genders and stuff [16:00] schestowitz-TR muddying the well/water [16:04] Techrights-sec2 on purpose [16:19] Techrights-sec2 Would you be able to ask the editor of LinuxGizmos about their CMS? [16:19] Techrights-sec2 https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Flinuxgizmos.com%2Fgps-rtk-raspberry-pi-hat-offers-high-precision-positioning-in-real-time%2F&charset=%28det [16:19] Techrights-sec2 ect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 [16:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-validator.w3.org | Markup Validation of https://linuxgizmos.com/gps-rtk-raspberry-pi-hat-offers-high-precision-positioning-in-real-time/ - W3C Markup Validator [16:19] schestowitz-TR it is wordpress [16:20] schestowitz-TR they moved to that when the old site was salvaged [16:20] schestowitz-TR it spews out some char atg the end of the first para that TM cannot handle [16:20] schestowitz-TR I think an invisible space [16:20] schestowitz-TR or second paragraph [16:20] schestowitz-TR based on the automateds links [16:21] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure which of these errors is choking the perl module used by our [16:21] Techrights-sec2 RSS/Atom feed processing scripts but it is something. The output of WordPress [16:21] Techrights-sec2 is most unsatisfactory. [16:21] Techrights-sec2 Maybe we'll have to run it through tidy first. :/ [16:21] Techrights-sec2 Hundreds of validation errors there. [16:22] schestowitz-TR like google.com [16:22] schestowitz-TR the master of the www [16:22] schestowitz-TR lead by example ● Sep 19 [17:56] Techrights-sec2 Yes, looking at the moment. Even running the document through tidy does not [17:56] Techrights-sec2 help. The source is a mess. WordPress has reached the end of its line and is [17:56] Techrights-sec2 over. It had a good start but turned to worse than shit in recent years. [17:56] Techrights-sec2 Found it. The problem is a bizarre, nested set of
elements. [17:56] Techrights-sec2
should not be used since HTML 3.2. And it should never, ever be [17:56] Techrights-sec2 nested like WordPress is doing. [17:56] schestowitz-TR it is an old site ● Sep 19 [18:08] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:09] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Sep 19 [19:17] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:18] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:32] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:47] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:56] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 19 [20:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [20:13] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:21] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-2jf.qio.h2f43n.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [20:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:23] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:27] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [20:29] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-cfa.eh6.29gqr1.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [21:52] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [22:00] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [22:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:54] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 19 [23:12] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [23:14] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-86u.1mh.2jtbps.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [23:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [23:16] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@mztzs6dkpajw6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell