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[09:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 20 [10:33] schestowitz-TR Microsoft criminals are fighting against the Internet, EFF won't even name Microsoft! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/scrapin [10:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Deeplinks Blog | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:33] schestowitz-TR g-public-websites-still-isnt-crime-court-appeals-declares [10:33] schestowitz-TR [10:14] BillBC is a lying machine with a private financial agenda. Now it leverages the LACK of data due to Easter [10:33] schestowitz-TR to falsely claim that numbers are decreasing. Yes, well... number of tests have decreased. Lowest since 2020. We're meant to hide the [10:33] schestowitz-TR problem? [10:33] schestowitz-TR [10:22] BillBC is turning the British public into careless COVIDiots so that rich sociopaths who don't mingle with [10:33] Techrights-sec ack [10:33] schestowitz-TR the 'hoi polloi' can get richer [10:33] schestowitz-TR [09:08] I would hope that the EFF can somehow be slavaged <- i mean, they could jump off the roof [10:47] schestowitz-TR With About 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in Hospital (Worse in More Than a Year!) BillBC/BBC Lies to the Public Again http://schestowitz.c [10:47] schestowitz-TR om/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/bbc-lies/ [10:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: schestowitz.c; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.c ) [10:47] schestowitz-TR I am assuming, based on Daily Links that I saw (about 4 links), that it's the same in the US and elsewhere [10:47] schestowitz-TR the policy comes from businesses like airlines and shops [10:47] schestowitz-TR we're not factored in at all [10:47] schestowitz-TR also known as gaslighting [10:47] schestowitz-TR soon the new "cranks" and "idiots" will be people who -- OMG! -- still talk about this virus [10:47] schestowitz-TR now that rich countries bought their doses, slowly, for high prices [10:47] schestowitz-TR so there is less money left to be made [10:47] schestowitz-TR moderna's shares have crashed [10:48] Techrights-sec ack [10:48] Techrights-sec ack [10:48] Techrights-sec yes notice the analysis of the decision the "judge" made [10:48] Techrights-sec cranks and idiots have been appointed to the bench [10:48] Techrights-sec yes but that won't result in a decrease in price nor will it inmprove [10:48] Techrights-sec efficacy, a new / diffefent vaccine process is needed for that [10:49] schestowitz-TR "customer retention" [10:49] schestowitz-TR I was a bit shocked that a judge at this level was appointed just 8 years after finishing law school [10:49] schestowitz-TR what has society become??? [10:52] Techrights-sec a farce [10:52] Techrights-sec M$ has lead the way by example, everyone sees that it is a farce but few to [10:52] Techrights-sec none dare speak up rather most choose to play along because they can then [10:52] Techrights-sec reapply those principles elsewhere in business [10:53] schestowitz-TR ota, doing video about our energy supplier ● Apr 20 [11:19] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:51] schestowitz-TR ota, doing video about our energy supplier [11:52] schestowitz-TR Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Conside [11:52] schestowitz-TR rably http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/eon-next-energy-limited-predatory-tactics/ 6 msgs included for full contextBB [11:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Considerably [11:52] schestowitz-TR B [11:52] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 20 [12:22] schestowitz-TR btw, ot-ish: [12:22] schestowitz-TR the github series did not end [12:22] schestowitz-TR I'm waiting for the right opportunity or time to resume [12:22] schestowitz-TR seeing that alex, miguel and nat left Microsoft [12:23] schestowitz-TR (or pushed out) [12:23] schestowitz-TR I am waiting for something else to happen [12:23] schestowitz-TR there is an ongoing attempt to settle and scuttle SLAPP [12:23] schestowitz-TR so that's a bit of a deadlock [12:23] schestowitz-TR sometimes it is better to keep the 'dirty' [12:23] schestowitz-TR things than to throw them all out in the open all at once [12:23] schestowitz-TR I think migael and net were scared of what might come next [12:23] schestowitz-TR posting teasers led them to issuing communications that are face-saving [12:23] schestowitz-TR for 15+ yeras we've neutralised the mono agenda [12:23] schestowitz-TR or weakened it [12:23] schestowitz-TR to the point where the media and the people would rather not brag about it [12:23] schestowitz-TR and were treated with suspicion everywhere except Microsoft [12:23] schestowitz-TR we need to do the same to github, wsl etc. [12:23] Techrights-sec ack [12:23] Techrights-sec or pure spin [12:24] schestowitz-TR few sites are still asp-based [12:24] schestowitz-TR I think some nhs stuff still uses it [12:24] schestowitz-TR but then again... nhs has long been a microsoft shop [12:25] Techrights-sec yes though M$ still tries to dump toxic waste around the net in the form of [12:25] Techrights-sec dotnet [12:25] Techrights-sec few but too many nonetheless, though in truth even one would be too many [12:27] schestowitz-TR there is a sort of -- for lack of better term -0- critical mass argument [12:27] schestowitz-TR you need to lower the numbers down to the point where it's too expensive [12:27] schestowitz-TR for microsoft to still go at it, e.g. zune, kim... maybe iis next [12:27] schestowitz-TR if it is no longer financially viable, then it pays off and it's time to [12:27] schestowitz-TR move to the next target [12:28] Techrights-sec yep [12:31] schestowitz-TR There was something else I wanted to say but forget [12:31] schestowitz-TR and that does not matter, this is informal irc chat [12:31] schestowitz-TR BailoutBiden won't be able to rescure them forever; I wait for the next netcraft report [12:31] schestowitz-TR and hopefully I'll have enough free time to properly cover it [12:31] schestowitz-TR unlike last month's [12:31] schestowitz-TR I am working again tonight, last time [12:31] schestowitz-TR rianne goes to town, worrying that some places have begun [12:31] schestowitz-TR removing plastic screens at tills [12:31] schestowitz-TR if you act normal, they hope, things will get back to normal [12:31] schestowitz-TR I am checking the numbers evbery day and mortality reports every week [12:32] Techrights-sec I'm not sure, they do havea cult following in government on "both" sides [12:32] Techrights-sec and among the permanenet staff; they also have been in and out of the [12:32] Techrights-sec whitehouse like a chea[ motel since the election which theuy weasled their [12:32] Techrights-sec way into the campaign [12:32] schestowitz-TR Chris Kerbs [12:32] Techrights-sec a microsfoter [12:37] Techrights-sec among many with open admission to the current administration's politicians [12:37] schestowitz-TR When it comes to COVID data portals, those that are new to me can more easily mislead me [12:37] schestowitz-TR I find that they seek transparency as long as they can slant it somehow [12:37] schestowitz-TR comparing apples to oranges [12:37] schestowitz-TR or adding 2700 deaths to PAST days when noone pays attention [12:37] schestowitz-TR but the totals/tally is harder to forge [12:49] Techrights-sec yes I think that many have disappeared and that quite a few are [12:49] Techrights-sec adjusting their analysis to mislead at least slightly [12:49] Techrights-sec and they are more and more hidden; some of the old ones are gone and [12:49] Techrights-sec return only 404 errors despite being at official government sites [12:59] schestowitz-TR i am digging very old gov docs [12:59] schestowitz-TR and seaming them together [12:59] schestowitz-TR atm [12:59] schestowitz-TR eta 10 mins [12:59] schestowitz-TR someone need to be a thorn on the side of gov. propaganda [12:59] schestowitz-TR Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/ [12:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com 2022 April 20 [12:59] schestowitz-TR covid-perspective/ [12:59] Techrights-sec ack [12:59] Techrights-sec yes too few hold their feet to the fire and basically none of the mainstream [12:59] Techrights-sec media do their job in that regard [12:59] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 20 [13:19] schestowitz-TR anorher one coming [13:19] schestowitz-TR Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 'Missing' (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Bei [13:19] schestowitz-TR ng Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (It's Only Getting Worse) http://schestowitz.c [13:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: schestowitz.c; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.c ) [13:19] schestowitz-TR om/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/no-sign-of-covid-slowing-down/ [13:20] Techrights-sec ack [13:20] Techrights-sec if they don't count the bodies, there is no data and therefore, in the eyes [13:20] Techrights-sec of the press, no problem [13:22] schestowitz-TR it is very difficult not to count all the bodies, given that each person has a name [13:22] schestowitz-TR and deaths have a certificate, plus NHS has potential whistleblowers [13:22] schestowitz-TR the testing numbers are very low now, lowest in years [13:22] schestowitz-TR but deaths are deaths [13:22] schestowitz-TR and I follow numbers that are possible to hide only TEMPORARILY [13:23] schestowitz-TR maybe for spin's sake [13:23] schestowitz-TR hence, there needs to be devil('s advocate) [13:23] schestowitz-TR it's clear what the current objective is [13:23] schestowitz-TR and how that overlooks many other issues [13:23] schestowitz-TR covid aside [13:30] Techrights-sec yes ● Apr 20 [14:40] Techrights-sec back (briefly) [14:40] Techrights-sec one of the recent links in the daily links had good analysis and historical [14:40] Techrights-sec overview of IBM, and other companies', involvement in the wrong side of WWII [14:40] Techrights-sec can't find it though, [14:40] Techrights-sec her's another [14:40] Techrights-sec https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/ [14:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theatlantic.com | Hitler's Willing Business Partners - The Atlantic [14:43] schestowitz-TR it is very difficult not to count all the bodies, given that each person has a name [14:43] schestowitz-TR and deaths have a certificate, plus NHS has potential whistleblowers [14:43] schestowitz-TR the testing numbers are very low now, lowest in years [14:43] schestowitz-TR but deaths are deaths [14:43] schestowitz-TR and I follow numbers that are possible to hide only TEMPORARILY [14:43] schestowitz-TR maybe for spin's sake [14:43] schestowitz-TR hence, there needs to be devil('s advocate) [14:43] schestowitz-TR it's clear what the current objective is [14:44] schestowitz-TR and how that overlooks many oth[08:04] Opinion | They Are the Heirs of Nazi Fortunes, and They Arent Apologizing - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/opinion/bmw-porsche-nazi-germany-quandt-flick.html Source: nytimeser issues [14:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | They Are the Heirs of Nazi Fortunes, and They Arent Apologizing - The New York Times [14:44] schestowitz-TR covid aside [14:48] Techrights-sec yes, thats the one [14:48] Techrights-sec https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ibm-and-quot-death-s-calculator-quot-2 [14:48] Techrights-sec (old) [14:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org | IBM & "Death's Calculator" [14:50] schestowitz-TR maybe they should make a movie or book [14:50] schestowitz-TR The IBMer Next Door (Operation Paperclip references, a real book) [14:50] schestowitz-TR a [14:50] schestowitz-TR a love story about Red Hat staff that become patriotic for IBM [14:50] schestowitz-TR and decided to pursue patents on systemd and spread it to the whole of EUrope [14:50] schestowitz-TR became it got bombed to shits [14:50] Techrights-sec I doubt M$ will stop selling to Russia and is even more unlikely to [14:50] Techrights-sec stop providing "updates" there as well. The Pentagon would lose a lot of [14:50] Techrights-sec backdoor capabilities if either were to stop. [14:51] schestowitz-TR where the media deserts or media deserters covering these issue? nowhere [14:51] schestowitz-TR and the security coverage is focus on anything but Windows [14:51] schestowitz-TR Even CIA won't name it [14:51] schestowitz-TR you need to read between the lines [14:52] schestowitz-TR *CISA [14:55] Techrights-sec yep distracting, and acting, if only theatrics, against *everything* except [14:55] Techrights-sec the faulty product line. [14:55] Techrights-sec CISA is a frequent host for microsofters as visitors [14:55] Techrights-sec they're now both ignorant and corrupt, who knows how long they've been that [14:55] Techrights-sec way, but they're sure that way now if consulting M$ for advice on *anything* [14:57] schestowitz-TR months ago digivegan wrote that proprietary s/s was inherently not secuee [14:57] schestowitz-TR he explained why [14:57] schestowitz-TR and he teacxhes cybersecurity [14:57] schestowitz-TR rms responded by saying that's untrue [14:57] schestowitz-TR and that writes secure programs is hard [14:57] schestowitz-TR digivegan responded by amending the text a bit [14:57] schestowitz-TR but rms was using thr straw man there [14:57] schestowitz-TR as proprietary software is often written to not be secure [14:57] schestowitz-TR and we know this thanks to snowden [14:57] schestowitz-TR well, wait, we know this based on things predating snowden, but we can more [14:57] schestowitz-TR easily prove that using material disclosed by snowden [14:59] Techrights-sec appeasement does not become RMS [14:59] Techrights-sec yes though snowden has become a lone voice repeating that message and now [14:59] Techrights-sec the world situation requires that he keep a very low profile [14:59] Techrights-sec RMS is probably too set in his ways to pick up on that message even where [14:59] Techrights-sec it overlaps strongy with software Freedom. ● Apr 20 [15:00] schestowitz-TR I think he worries about fakes like tidelift hitting back with a bunch of logos [15:00] schestowitz-TR buzzworda and fake 'studies' of selective 'stats' on how "Open Source" [15:00] schestowitz-TR has a "supply chain" problem and Microsoft et al even met in the White House [15:00] schestowitz-TR to speak 'for us' about this [15:00] Techrights-sec M$ "research" is just a marketing arm where they throw a pittance in the [15:00] Techrights-sec direction of some starving researcher in exchange for silence [15:01] schestowitz-TR now we have "Linux Foundation Research" [15:01] schestowitz-TR They are a phantom Microsoft et al [15:01] schestowitz-TR in "Linux" clothing [15:01] schestowitz-TR which is even more powerful because they can pretend to be one's opposition [15:01] schestowitz-TR or "controlled opposiitoon [15:01] Techrights-sec M$ "research" is just a marketing arm where they throw a pittance in the [15:01] Techrights-sec direction of some starving researcher in exchange for silence on software [15:01] Techrights-sec Freedom and maybe a mention or use of M$ trash in place of real tools [15:01] Techrights-sec LF is a front for M$ more or less [15:01] Techrights-sec s/is/has become/ [15:02] schestowitz-TR [14:36] OSI has just changed its Web site [15:02] schestowitz-TR [14:38] OSI now calls its blog "Voices of Open Source". But some of these voices are MICROSOFT employees pushing PR [15:02] schestowitz-TR OPRIETARY GitHub!! Appalling. [15:10] Techrights-sec there is a push to reframe OSS as originating and provided by M$ [15:10] Techrights-sec it's more of the same in regards to pretending that closed source is open [15:10] Techrights-sec source because it is distributed free of charge, more muddying the water and [15:10] Techrights-sec confusing newbies and non-technical people [15:10] Techrights-sec look at the lies and misdirection they circulate around VSC [15:41] schestowitz-TR Social control media = waste of time. "Ever think about how most of the debates we have on social media seem to fade in and die out a [15:41] schestowitz-TR fter a day or so?" https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/ [15:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tedium.co | The Great Stirrup Controversy: Lynn White, Jr.s Spicy Medieval Take [15:41] Techrights-sec yep [15:41] Techrights-sec a day at the most, thus the epithet "twacktivism" [15:43] schestowitz-TR "It is insane to me that cryptocurrencies are still a thing." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/clever-cryptocurrency-theft.html [15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Clever Cryptocurrency Theft - Schneier on Security [15:44] schestowitz-TR dnd [15:44] schestowitz-TR or pogz [15:44] schestowitz-TR monopoly money [15:44] schestowitz-TR fantasy [15:44] schestowitz-TR self-delusion [15:44] schestowitz-TR waste [15:44] schestowitz-TR mostly the last [15:44] schestowitz-TR "I have nothing useful to do, I cannot program, so I will just let this thing run and pretent [15:44] schestowitz-TR pretend I have a little wall street in a box" [15:47] Techrights-sec yes the experiement with cryptocurrencies more or less ended in 2009 [15:47] Techrights-sec but then some techbros lifted some of that out of the trash can and [15:47] Techrights-sec ran with it [15:47] Techrights-sec ^that = the discarded, completed experiment [15:49] Techrights-sec some even started as jokes but then idiots started throwing real money [15:49] Techrights-sec that direction and it got out of control at that point [15:52] schestowitz-TR the 'luneex gamer' bryant did a video propping that up [15:52] schestowitz-TR like buying a home with 'crypto' [15:52] schestowitz-TR but that was around the time he joked about selling to disney [15:52] schestowitz-TR while not joking about selling space to valve which needed influencer [15:52] schestowitz-TR [sic] because without them "deck" become dreck, forgotten and ignores [15:52] schestowitz-TR shortly after launch press release [15:52] schestowitz-TR jason evangelu vanished the moment I called him out on it [15:52] schestowitz-TR youtube is full of scams [15:52] schestowitz-TR gold [15:52] schestowitz-TR "crypto" [15:52] schestowitz-TR supplements of all sorts [15:52] schestowitz-TR among others (I could name a dozen) [15:53] schestowitz-TR gulag did not mind for a long time [15:53] schestowitz-TR I think it's trying to tackle this now [15:53] schestowitz-TR while leaving in tact worse things if it's politically beneficial to gulag [15:53] Techrights-sec yes he also stopped mentioning anthing FOSS AFAIK [15:53] Techrights-sec good [15:53] Techrights-sec LBRY is even worse though for similar but not quite the same reasons [15:54] schestowitz-TR i went to odysee front page once [15:54] schestowitz-TR logged out, no cookie, nothing [15:54] schestowitz-TR I got lols seeing them recommending a video where alady sells farts inside jars [15:54] schestowitz-TR I did not click, but that resonated with me [15:54] schestowitz-TR odysee - the fart-selling site [15:55] Techrights-sec Odysee only is even remotely worth the time if one makes an accoutn [15:55] Techrights-sec and then spends a *long* time blocking dozens if not hundreds of accounts [15:55] Techrights-sec there after it becomes palatable (almost) as long as you don't look at [15:55] Techrights-sec the "recommendations", but that is similar to Google's YouTube [15:56] schestowitz-TR speaking of which, about a decade ago I "followed" the mostg popular gulagtuber [15:56] schestowitz-TR (at the time; number of subs, IIRC) [15:56] schestowitz-TR and he dia a video about how there was this channel in gulagtube that was just [15:56] schestowitz-TR basically a gallery of fart [15:56] schestowitz-TR someone uploading many videos of oneself farting into a phone camera (IIRC) [15:57] schestowitz-TR and that channel became very popular [15:57] schestowitz-TR welcome to the Internet [15:57] schestowitz-TR TheInternetIsForFartFetish ● Apr 20 [16:02] Techrights-sec :/ [16:02] Techrights-sec although rule 34 almost certainly applies, much of that was probably [16:02] Techrights-sec youngsters exhibiting very sophmoric humor [16:04] Techrights-sec ack [16:04] schestowitz-TR it was more popular than spamnil [16:04] schestowitz-TR smae category ● Apr 20 [17:27] schestowitz-TR Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/after-easter/ [17:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) [17:28] Techrights-sec There may be a wave after Easter especially if it is combined with 1 May [17:46] schestowitz-TR i have just started my shift [17:46] schestowitz-TR i am looking at the covvid portal [17:46] schestowitz-TR mentioned earlier [17:46] schestowitz-TR to see if I can make sense of it [17:46] schestowitz-TR knowing that politicians have chosen "capitalism" over people [17:46] schestowitz-TR "we did the best we could, now go back to your cage" (which is not healthy for psychological reasons, as well) [17:46] schestowitz-TR the corona map page gives me a blank page [17:46] schestowitz-TR even with JS on, under Falkon [17:46] schestowitz-TR some nice shiny "stuff" and webdevop you got there... [17:46] schestowitz-TR arccgiv.com [17:46] schestowitz-TR the numbders of deaths run OK until week 10 or 11 of this year [17:46] schestowitz-TR this is common as they have a 'backlog' [17:46] schestowitz-TR so one needs to set a threshold at least a month back [17:46] schestowitz-TR like in here [17:46] schestowitz-TR almost 200 deaths per week for a population more than an order of magnitude smaller than ours [17:46] schestowitz-TR same period 12 months earlier (pre-vaccine) was about 20 deaths per week with many more tests [17:46] schestowitz-TR being conducted [17:46] schestowitz-TR a critical or lateral thinker (or sceptical thinking) would say such numbers debunk efficacy arguments from the [17:46] schestowitz-TR big supplier of patents on some juices that make one ill [17:48] Techrights-sec ack [17:48] Techrights-sec There may be a wave after Easter especially if it is combined with 1 May [17:48] Techrights-sec "web" "developers" both in scare quotes [17:48] schestowitz-TR I never said web developer, I said webdevops [17:48] schestowitz-TR they are to development and the world wide web what "apps" are to applications [17:49] Techrights-sec they are so caught up in their own bullshit that they don't / won't see that [17:49] Techrights-sec the crap they are producing does not work; [17:49] Techrights-sec even the paradigm is faulty. instead of using a stateless client-server [17:49] Techrights-sec arcitecture to serve complete documents, as HTTP is designed to do, theu [17:49] Techrights-sec have make a horrendous kludge where they are attempting to use the web [17:49] Techrights-sec browser as a highly inefficient virtual machine to run aribtrary, [17:50] schestowitz-TR here, with the uk data portal, they send you bloated js and then send data to it. Then, the same things are redrawn over and over again by all visitors. [17:50] Techrights-sec unauthenticated programs of unknown provenance and capabilities on your machine [17:51] Techrights-sec maybe they do see that the crap they produce doesn't work but that they [17:51] Techrights-sec leverage that to sell more of their labor: if a little doesn't work, more [17:51] Techrights-sec is needed [17:52] schestowitz-TR wait, are we talkinmg about the web kludge or about more and more doses? [17:52] schestowitz-TR remember studies were conducted about 5 months ago and showed a 4th jab is placebo at best [17:52] Techrights-sec yes it is profoundly wasteful compared to server-side processing for [17:52] Techrights-sec the same images which will be requested a great many times [17:52] Techrights-sec on a global scale it probably contributes to carbon emissions in a not [17:52] Techrights-sec insignificant amount [17:55] schestowitz-TR far worse than it may seem at first [17:55] schestowitz-TR 1) need a more powerful PC [17:55] schestowitz-TR need a "modern" browser (throw away "old" machine) [17:55] schestowitz-TR 2) energy/battery usage/manufacturing [17:55] schestowitz-TR 3) routing energy (not a good way of passing such data, can be produced 'off-line' [17:55] schestowitz-TR I forgot accessibility aspects, but this one is tricky [17:56] schestowitz-TR I don't know how blind people read charts and which type of charts [17:56] Techrights-sec and a lot of bandwidth... [17:56] Techrights-sec which is of itself a contribution to carbon emissions [17:56] Techrights-sec https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g [17:56] Techrights-sec grauniad :/ [17:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g ) [17:56] Techrights-sec yes though they contest the accessiblity while impeding it [17:58] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Apr 20 [18:00] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:08] schestowitz-TR back to the data, the 1:2 or 1:3 ratio in case:test this year suggests they got all stingy about testing [18:08] schestowitz-TR there are a lot more people testing positive [18:08] schestowitz-TR and barely an effort to catch silent or mild cases [18:08] schestowitz-TR which of course is a self-feeding loop [18:08] schestowitz-TR test less, it'll spread faster [18:08] schestowitz-TR and in turn you will need to test MOAR [18:08] schestowitz-TR just to catch up with the surge [18:08] schestowitz-TR what a stupid policy [18:08] schestowitz-TR is is basically a case of, [18:08] schestowitz-TR if you feel very unwell [18:08] schestowitz-TR and if you think you got "the" virus [18:09] schestowitz-TR come on over, we'll check you [18:09] schestowitz-TR last year the footballer needed to test themselves regardless between games [18:09] schestowitz-TR to avoid the circulation of the virus through family and colleagues [18:09] schestowitz-TR testing to see, "YES! it IS coronavirus!" is sort of pointless [18:09] schestowitz-TR "yes, sherlock, that's why I came here" [18:09] schestowitz-TR like the cardiologist who says, "it's good you came, yes, I can see this issue in your heart" [18:09] schestowitz-TR instead of people taking pulse, blood pressure etc. [18:09] schestowitz-TR so my guess here and elsewhere the "new normal" means "small government" [18:09] schestowitz-TR in the name of 'freedom' and 'the economy' they will embrace a new "normal" death rates [18:09] schestowitz-TR and hospitals will find that wintertime workdloads are the "normal" all year around [18:09] schestowitz-TR this sucks, but makes me complacent about 'rebelling' against the status quo [18:09] schestowitz-TR mostly by inaction, a lack of participation in "the economy" [18:09] schestowitz-TR if more people do the same, we might even get somewhere [18:09] schestowitz-TR I cannot recall which article it was, but earlier this week there was a passage that said, [18:09] schestowitz-TR according to the NY Times, the patent system has been corrupted [18:09] Techrights-sec ack [18:11] schestowitz-TR I have not left Manchester since Jan 20200 [18:11] schestowitz-TR and Rianne convinced me not to travel with her to the aunt [18:11] schestowitz-TR because she can travel on her own (I suggedted train, more chance of empty space than in a coach) [18:11] schestowitz-TR the aunt will come here days afterwards [18:11] schestowitz-TR I akways found long-distance travel wasteful, useful, hardly even enjoyabnle [18:11] schestowitz-TR buit a cultural thing [18:12] schestowitz-TR like sipping "jesus blood" at the church [18:14] Techrights-sec ack [18:14] Techrights-sec be sure Rianne and the aunt have n95 or better masks when travelling [18:14] Techrights-sec depends on whether the church considers it metaphorical or pushes [18:14] Techrights-sec transubstantiation [18:14] Techrights-sec but for most, either way, it is simply a cultural habit [18:14] Techrights-sec a problem with travel is that there is financial incentive for some clusters [18:14] Techrights-sec of businesses to promote unnecessary travel and in the general business [18:14] Techrights-sec community there is a dick measuring contest related to the wastefulness o [18:14] Techrights-sec of the travel [18:14] schestowitz-TR away from home -> no place to sleep -> need to pay for a second bed (the one at home unsused) [18:14] schestowitz-TR similarly, divorces help sell or occupy more homes [18:14] schestowitz-TR so bad (for family, environment etc) thinks get promoted by external and hostile forces [18:15] Techrights-sec i guess this goes back to the discussion of forced debt so that time [18:15] Techrights-sec and other finite resources are spent on school, crappy cars, and travel [18:15] Techrights-sec holidays instead of building communities and/or families [18:18] schestowitz-TR what makes others weak can give you power over them [18:18] schestowitz-TR not limited to loans (mort - gage!) [18:18] schestowitz-TR but also level of education, feed them bible, BS news, incite etc. [18:18] schestowitz-TR the idea is, you get less competition when people scroll up and down crap and press [18:18] schestowitz-TR "like" [18:18] schestowitz-TR they can never develop mentally and won't pursue a real change [18:18] schestowitz-TR so when I see people becoming "gamers" or sitting on the toilet doing "work" [18:18] schestowitz-TR on the phone, I'm sort of OK with it... [18:18] schestowitz-TR "waste your life away, I'll get reall stuff done in the meantime..." [18:19] Techrights-sec It seems that the goal of that and other things it to keep them individually [18:19] Techrights-sec and collectively in a constant state of crises so they are merely reacting [18:19] Techrights-sec viscerally and not able to plan ahead [18:20] schestowitz-TR debt means anxiety [18:20] schestowitz-TR kids mean debt mean anxiety [18:20] schestowitz-TR social rat race means wanting to travel FAR, buy EXPENSIVE car, have MANY kids [18:20] schestowitz-TR but never mind planning ahead, you are busy trying to survive [18:21] Techrights-sec I guess it's related to the details layed out in "The Shock Doctrine" [18:21] Techrights-sec debt is, unfortunately, now the main currency used globally not actual currency [18:23] schestowitz-TR yes, commondreams and counterpunch had some articles about this recently [18:23] schestowitz-TR alex graveley lived with his dad [18:23] schestowitz-TR using a mac and telling endless lies about how he was a big shot millionaire worth 200 million [18:23] schestowitz-TR and "semi retired" [18:23] schestowitz-TR of course his wealth was fakecoins [18:23] schestowitz-TR and he could barely afford a car [18:23] schestowitz-TR lived in his g/f apartmentsa [18:23] schestowitz-TR and then back to dad [18:23] schestowitz-TR in his 40s [18:23] schestowitz-TR but those are too ad hom for me to write about at this time [18:23] schestowitz-TR it would not in any way help the series [18:25] Techrights-sec yes [18:25] schestowitz-TR andrew lee is "debt-rich" ("king of debt" - Lee) [18:25] schestowitz-TR alex jones has a debt empire (at one point, he went too far) [18:25] schestowitz-TR a lot of so-called 'news' sites were 'rich' in VC money [18:25] schestowitz-TR our company is rich... in promises and bullshit :-) [18:26] Techrights-sec them too [18:26] Techrights-sec the debt allows them to pretend but keeps them on a short leash nonetheless [18:26] Techrights-sec . and posturing [18:27] schestowitz-TR posturing is contagious [18:27] schestowitz-TR they probably implicitly teach that in "business" "schools" [18:28] Techrights-sec tacitly not necessarily on the syllabus [18:28] schestowitz-TR it can be extracurricular [18:28] schestowitz-TR you learn from classmates [18:28] schestowitz-TR who exaggerate all sorts of things [18:31] schestowitz-TR the practical equivalent or renting a sport car for a night to get sex from a lady [18:31] schestowitz-TR whose "designer" stuff might be borrowed from a friend or is the sole "asset", purchased [18:31] schestowitz-TR with "credit" (debt) cards [18:31] schestowitz-TR of course these relationship blow up very fast and the ones getting the last laugh are [18:31] schestowitz-TR merchants of "lifestyle" "goods" [18:31] schestowitz-TR of course they also date in some very expensive restaurant and pretent coffee must cost north of 5 dollars [18:32] Techrights-sec 5 would be relatively cheap these days unfortunately [18:33] schestowitz-TR the 227 grams I bought is about 30-40 spoonfull [18:33] schestowitz-TR I make about two teapots (~800ml) with each spoon [18:33] schestowitz-TR to keep it diluted and now be high on cafeeine [18:33] schestowitz-TR water and electricity cost more than the rest! [18:33] schestowitz-TR *not be [18:34] Techrights-sec ack [18:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 20 [20:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yevedmyetc9v6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 20 [21:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 20 [22:01] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 20 [23:52] schestowitz-TR the black man meme I put in my PF post about CoC became an empty file [23:52] schestowitz-TR *LF post [23:52] schestowitz-TR I investigated [23:52] schestowitz-TR the timestemp is the same as when I uploaded it [23:52] schestowitz-TR Google seems to have cache of the image [23:52] schestowitz-TR it was in the front page of Lxer [23:52] schestowitz-TR I checked that no other file in its vicinity was 0 bytes in size [23:52] schestowitz-TR that image being made an empty file, with timestamp unchanged [23:52] schestowitz-TR is a tad suspicious to me [23:52] schestowitz-TR I reuploaded the image from the driver [23:52] schestowitz-TR *drive [23:52] schestowitz-TR I do not wish to make false speculations or make something that may sound like [23:52] schestowitz-TR an accusation about someone financially connected to LF vandalisng that file [23:52] schestowitz-TR this is the first time I see such a thing [23:52] schestowitz-TR so at first I wondered if there was a technical issue and maybe a glitch at system level [23:52] schestowitz-TR I am pretty certain the file was OK when I first published it and I did not override it