IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Thursday, May 20, 2021

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wh0careswh0: https://t.co/aYSzUcSlIc https://t.co/7b5HZZZWMP

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Release: Police Report About Arrest of Bill Gates Engineer for Pedophilia (Detained at Residence of Bill Gates) | Techrights

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EmeraldRobinson: Bill Gates claiming that his long friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was just an attempt to win the Nobel Pe… https://t.co/xSWVa8vX4N

https://twitter.com/wh0careswh0/status/1395078051525013505

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wh0careswh0: @EmeraldRobinson Birds of a feather flock together https://t.co/aYSzUcSlIc

https://twitter.com/oGrandeAlberto/status/1395028628451303426

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@oGrandeAlberto: "Release: Police Report About Arrest of Bill Gates Engineer for Pedophilia (Detained at Residence of Bill Gates)" https://t.co/jDICdyDLZr

https://twitter.com/uliwitness/status/1395006962102849536

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@uliwitness: Huh. Seems there's something weird going on with Freenode (the IRC server) and a lawsuit: https://t.co/x2OGzM9lUc… https://t.co/e2Po3FyzNX

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Andrew Lee of Private Internet Access/London Trust Media Increasingly Owns and Controls Freenode (Updatedx2) | Techrights

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@uliwitness: Huh. Seems there's something weird going on with Freenode (the IRC server) and a lawsuit: https://t.co/x2OGzM9lUc… https://t.co/e2Po3FyzNX

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Huh. Seems there's something weird going on with Freenode (the IRC server) and a lawsuit:

http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Andrew Lee of Private Internet Access/London Trust Media Increasingly Owns and Controls Freenode (Updatedx2) | Techrights

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My brain doesn't work well with the format of IRC (more a fan of asynchronous chat like Twitter, Slack or Discord), but a few projects are on IRC only. This is sad.

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https://twitter.com/fleming77/status/1394927239519772677

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fleming77: The newly ultraconservative court has agreed to hear a direct challenge to the landmark 1973 abortion case https://t.co/1i4OQiPxaM

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ The Supreme Court May Have Just Signed Roe v. Wade’s Death Warrant https://t.co/zX6JbaIJzj

https://twitter.com/kvbcarter/status/1394912896442724352

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kvbcarter: @schestowitz @GOPLeader You should resign. You do not represent American values. The big lie is Biden won-Enough is… https://t.co/Zdie30n3ri

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kvbcarter: @schestowitz @GOPLeader You should resign. You do not represent American values. The big lie is Biden won-Enough is… https://t.co/Zdie30n3ri

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@GOPLeader

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You should resign. You do not represent American values. The big lie is Biden won-Enough is Enough!! Democrats go it alone. The GOP doesn’t give a shit about governing. Face with symbols over mouthSquared sos #McCarthyIsATraitor

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https://twitter.com/jriddlecult/status/1394895360783491072

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May 20 01:49

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jriddlecult: @schestowitz That's got to be the shortest article ever.

May 20 01:49

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[08:26] <schestowitz__> [08:01] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx it is a "the owner of PIA is suing freenode for control of freenode" issue

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[08:26] <schestowitz__> [08:01] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you probably want to cover this

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[08:26] <schestowitz__> [08:08] <schestowitz__> thanks, I will amend

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[08:26] <schestowitz__> [08:08] <schestowitz__> http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/

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[08:26] <schestowitz__> [08:14] <schestowitz__> Updated

https://nitter.cc/go_show95/status/1395181960302141442#m

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● NEWS ● #CraigMurray ☞ Bypassing the Road Block https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/04/bypassing-the-road-block/

May 20 04:00

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"We will release a drop in replacement for ownCloud in a few weeks so that users and customers can easily upgrade to Nextcloud to benefit from the new bugfix and security improvements and features. Nextcloud GmbH will provide free support for all current ownCloud customers to simplify a transition."

May 20 04:00

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Bypassing the Road Block - Craig Murray

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May 20 05:15

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | GoShow95 (@go_show95): "techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Fo…" | nitter

May 20 05:15

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<li>

May 20 09:43

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<h5><a href="https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461">My resignation from freenode</a></h5>

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461">My )

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<p>As it is now known, the freenode IRC network has been taken over by a Trumpian wannabe korean royalty bitcoins millionaire. To make a long story short, the former freenode head of staff secretly "sold" the network to this person even if it was not hers to sell, and our lawyers have advised us that there is not much that we can do about it without some of us risking financial ruin. Fuck you Christel, lilo's life

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work did not deserve this.</p></blockquote></li>

https://nitter.cc/JulianKlode/status/1395282819958681603#m

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May 20 12:01

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "FreeNode is now controlled by Andrew Lee. Andrew Lee links to blog post by Roy Schestowitz. Roy Schestowitz is known associate of Dan Pocock, who runs a bunch of hate speech attack centers against Debian and related communities." | nitter

May 20 12:01

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"FreeNode is now controlled by Andrew Lee. Andrew Lee links to blog post by Roy Schestowitz. Roy Schestowitz is known associate of Dan Pocock, who runs a bunch of hate speech attack centers against Debian and related communities."

May 20 12:01

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https://nitter.cc/JulianKlode/status/1395283454280011776#m

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "This turns FreeNode to the rhetoric of the right wing, complaining about "cancel culture" and supporting aggressive mobbers." | nitter

https://nitter.cc/JulianKlode/status/1395282818301837318#m

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "One of the two major free software IRC networks has been taken over by an enemy. It's a bad day." | nitter

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https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/stallman-isn't-out-of-touch-with:4

May 20 12:20

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Stallman ISN'T OUT OF TOUCH With Technology!

May 20 12:20

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dozens and monopolists and their front groups cannot lie to everyone forever. They've mostly harmed themselves at the end, in an attempt to distract from the messenger.

May 20 12:20

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Doctorow has been working against the idea of monopoly itself, rather

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than playing whack-a-mole with the many that pop up.

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However, as for RMS, the truth of his situation and accuracy and practicality

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of his stated positions are getting known finally. Rather than 4th or 5th

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hand lies.

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I wrote thousands of articles about Novell. But often I focused more on the brand than the issues. I no longer do this.

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But realize that the smears against RMS from within FOSS have been going for at least 15 years, that I know of.

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Yes, it is the principles which are involved which matter. The

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miscreants change. It's hard to imagine but decades ago Google was

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rather good. M$, however, never was, not even for a moment.

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What are your gut feelings re freenode? We might be writing a lot more about them for a while.

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I don't know enough about Freenode or the due who bought it out.

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I may be quite wrong but it looks like he has been, in practice, in

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posession of it for quite a while. It also looks like the person

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who sold it had no right to do so but the courts would take a while

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to solve that and getting them involed would be a lot of time, work, and money

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which no one has to spare.

https://markets.ft.com/data/announce/full?dockey=1323-14313024-5DUR5O5ID0FMAGA88BVMR01M86

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I would look to see how many of the

May 20 12:38

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original FreeNode components have already moved to Libera.Chat and

May 20 12:38

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also check how many (if any) remain at FreeNode.

May 20 12:38

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May 20 12:54

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-markets.ft.com | Proposed acquisition of Private Internet Access – Company Announcement - FT.com

May 20 12:54

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There are a lot of M$ GitHub links about the FreeNode situation.

May 20 12:55

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lots of abusive comments there too

May 20 12:55

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Yes, M$ GitHub is mostly a waste of time but unfortunately a few

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of the principals for FreeNode have posted there.

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(in their role as staff)

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I pointed this out in my article,

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The self-hosted ones are the ones to prioritize, IMO

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It's good that the article connects those who joined the attack letter against

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RMS so one can see the cross over between that letter and various troubles

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elsewhere

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I've read the article now, it is quite thorough.

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I don't think freenode staffer intended so, but what they do is a strike at the very core of many projects. Microsoft could NOT BE ANY HAPPIER. Heck, dumb "SHITTY IRC" and "COME OVER TO GITHUB and enjoy FREE SPACE of Microsoft censors"

May 20 13:21

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"*dump

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*saffers

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Yes. There is plenty of friction anyway, but when they have the chance,

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M$ always tries to feed it and / or put sand in the gears. That's how they

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have always worked.

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IBM will ship the popcorn to Redmond

May 20 13:23

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Basically.

May 20 13:24

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I'm still not sure what IBM gets out of buying RH just to look like shutting

May 20 13:24

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it down.

May 20 13:24

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I think they tried to attack the communities to make Red Hat (and SUSE) the only "good" choice for "business", but they clearly play with fire and now they lose Red Hat brains

May 20 13:25

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Do they think they have enough of the market to take it fully proprietary in

May 20 13:25

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practice?

May 20 13:25

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They are certainly looking like they are hemorrhaging their key employees.

May 20 13:28

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see all the stuff I've been quoting lately from thelayoff.com

May 20 13:28

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stupid MBAs killing the company for short-term gains

May 20 13:28

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They are certainly looking like they are hemorrhaging their key employees.

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After a certain percentage go, the remainder won't be effective and

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new talent will be unavailable because of that.

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Yes, I've seen that but the layoff.com is a site which always should

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be followed up with verification.

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I'm not sure the MBAs will even get short term gains out of this.

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It looks motivated by ideology and not bottom-line profits, since the

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latter are missing.