●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 20, 2021 ●● ● Jun 20 [00:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vhqbitmpxhgdg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 20 [03:27] *job (~job@faedm9en5b78c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/FlipperTGibbit/status/1406412876185804807 [03:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FlipperTGibbit: @schestowitz Lol most meat eaters perfectly understand where that food comes from. We know the animals that are kil https://t.co/UTeaETmRvQ [03:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FlipperTGibbit: @schestowitz Lol most meat eaters perfectly understand where that food comes from. We know the animals that are kil https://t.co/UTeaETmRvQ [03:50] schestowitz " [03:50] schestowitz Lol most meat eaters perfectly understand where that food comes from. We know the animals that are killed for food. (Some of us even raise our own!) [03:50] schestowitz Now, what are you so scared of during an ultrasound? [03:50] schestowitz " [03:51] schestowitz https://twitter.com/JamieAdeana/status/1406265706556055554 [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JamieAdeana: Deal. https://t.co/xjFlsjclxX [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Some people want to pass laws that force people to watch ultrasound of an embryo before abortion. But instead, how https://t.co/prDYPKFAJm [03:51] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BethieBeemer/status/1406252109318733829 [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BethieBeemer: Card-carrying member of "grew-up on a farm" club. Presenting us with a picture of a calf before we can order a stea https://t.co/b4BjLNNn4T [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BethieBeemer: Card-carrying member of "grew-up on a farm" club. Presenting us with a picture of a calf before we can order a stea https://t.co/b4BjLNNn4T [03:51] schestowitz "Card-carrying member of "grew-up on a farm" club. Presenting us with a picture of a calf before we can order a steak ain't going to change anything. " [03:51] schestowitz https://twitter.com/TTasticDesigns/status/1406214161055506433 [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TTasticDesigns: @BlueelvisEric @LesterDent @schestowitz Is still not a human baby [03:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/TTasticDesigns/status/1406214609493708800 [03:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TTasticDesigns: Im old enough to remember the restaurants where you can pick which live lobster you want to eat from a tank. I do https://t.co/0hfEJrSrdK [03:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TTasticDesigns: Im old enough to remember the restaurants where you can pick which live lobster you want to eat from a tank. I do https://t.co/0hfEJrSrdK [03:52] schestowitz "Im old enough to remember the restaurants where you can pick which live lobster you want to eat from a tank. I dont think cow is to big of a stretch, your attempt at a point here though" [03:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/nbartlett/status/1406194959825387522 [03:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nbartlett: Do vegans think meat eaters dont know what a cow looks like...? https://t.co/VvcYlbiX2Z [03:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/LibreOfficecz/status/1406141445950435328 [03:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LibreOfficecz: Prce na GTK4 portu pokrauj https://t.co/stlDTnikP7 [03:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Caoln McNamara: GTK4 Port: #oubleDecker Notebooks https://t.co/1E6gSH85sg #libreoffice ● Jun 20 [04:01] MinceR i think the cows might suffocate ● Jun 20 [05:40] *job has quit (connection closed) ● Jun 20 [06:00] *job (~job@faedm9en5b78c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, throwing red paint on them and handing out Ryan the chicken literature isn't helping. [06:04] DaemonFC PETA actually had a pamphlet where they named the chicken Ryan. [06:05] DaemonFC It's the Steve the Pencil trick. [06:05] DaemonFC ;You name a pencil Steve and then snap it and a part of everyone in the room dies. [06:05] DaemonFC Because it had a name. [06:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jun 20 [09:00] *job has quit (connection closed) [09:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 20 [10:04] Techrights-sec is there a better alternative to Google Translate which can reveive URLs? [10:04] schestowitz I wondered the same recently (did some work for a relative in his 90s), but I know of none. Not been following babelfish for ages... [10:06] Techrights-sec Ok. [10:06] Techrights-sec I saw one alternative mentioned somewhere but when I checked it out, the [10:06] Techrights-sec site was only empty marketing and was like a brochure not a service. [10:06] schestowitz we also need alt for google news [10:07] Techrights-sec Yes. It has gone (further) to crap lately. Some of its RSS feeds have been [10:07] Techrights-sec dying and a manual (or bookmarked) search on the same keyword results [10:07] Techrights-sec only in far-right whackdoodlery turning up in the search results. [10:07] schestowitz for politics, that's why I deleted those feeds [10:08] Techrights-sec A political slant is tolerable if they would stick to facts but those [10:08] Techrights-sec I've seen in the search results have fastidiously avoided any facts. [10:11] Techrights-sec Well the topic of 'censorship' is getting co-opted, same for first [10:11] Techrights-sec Amendment / Free Speech. The far left whackdoodles are agitating against [10:11] Techrights-sec both 1A and Free Speech and trying to conflate it with anything / everything bad [10:11] Techrights-sec With the help of Facebook and Twitter and the others, they are gaining a lot [10:11] Techrights-sec of headway in that direction. [10:11] Techrights-sec It's been happening for more than a few years already. [10:11] Techrights-sec Both sets of whackdoodles avoid the point that crime and incitement to crime [10:11] Techrights-sec are not covered by 1A or Free Speech. However, I think the main goal with [10:11] Techrights-sec all that is more likely the press and the elimination of independent press [10:12] Techrights-sec entirely. Look what's left after 20 years now, in any area of coverage. [10:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190621.html#tJun%2019%2023:40:22 [10:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 19, 2021 [10:44] schestowitz I've just nudge out the IRC blog post of today ("Missed Schedule"). I wanted to ask, do you want to have a go at making a substitute to Google News, limited to tech issues. TuxMachines already has a good starting point: http://tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources basically, seeing how bad the media became and how neglected Google News is (lots of noise, plagiarism, and spam), competition will be easier [10:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tuxmachines.org | News Feeds | Tux Machines ● Jun 20 [11:23] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:23] *schestowitz (~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:23] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [11:33] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 20 [12:34] *job (~job@bfjdrpzm6v77y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 20 [13:36] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 20 [14:03] Techrights-sec Google News is kind of complex in the back-end of things. [14:03] Techrights-sec I could build a bot for that but it'd take a lot of time to (re)design and [14:03] Techrights-sec to tune. [14:05] schestowitz there are some search utilities out there, some of which I tried before, and we have spare CPU capacity, but getting people to adopt such a thing is easier said than done. chicken and egg thing... [14:05] schestowitz solr might be suitable when there is a large set of sites being indexed [14:06] Techrights-sec I helped write such a bot in the distant past, but maybe something else is [14:06] Techrights-sec available in a current project. It'd be an aweful lot of work either way, [14:06] Techrights-sec as far as I can tell. [14:27] Techrights-sec Yes, but how much time and work would this be worth? It could be re-used [14:27] Techrights-sec for other topics of course but perhaps there is an easy way available instead. [14:29] schestowitz yes, but it's always worth doubled-blind testing [14:32] Techrights-sec Various papers on the topic used to be public but seem to have been [14:32] Techrights-sec vacuumed up by unscrupulous etities and locked behind paywalls. 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