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schestowitz-TRdraftJul 20 06:57
schestowitz-TRI will make the amendments now, thanks!Jul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2checkingJul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2might raise the importance of TTN not being a law firm by using that fact Jul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2in the first sentence which introduces itJul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2the nature of the "harmonization" across fields can use a word or two         Jul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2hintng/reminding as to its natureJul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2In the title and other descriptions "intrepid" might be taken the wrong wayJul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2if the sarcasm is missedJul 20 06:57
Techrights-sec2npJul 20 07:03
schestowitz-TR3 significant changes madeJul 20 07:04
schestowitz-TRat least I know what a "blind copy" reader lackJul 20 07:04
schestowitz-TRI'll send you parts 11-12 soonJul 20 07:04
schestowitz-TRkaniini is getting interested in GeminiJul 20 07:04
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 07:04
Techrights-sec2lynx is a good approximationJul 20 07:04
Techrights-sec2:)Jul 20 07:04
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schestowitz-TRparts 11-12 sentJul 20 07:43
Techrights-sec2okJul 20 07:44
schestowitz-TRthese parts give you a "head start"Jul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRgemini had lots of traffic yesterdayJul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRthe update to the pi did not break anything, but reboot would be needed to see if it fixed somethingJul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRI'll back up /home over rsync nowJul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRwipo has not yet rules on "debian"(TM)Jul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRI'm off work todayJul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRI want to be of work for good by year's endJul 20 07:59
schestowitz-TRif they buy more time, OK, I get paid more in the meantime, at least we've already begun site migrationsJul 20 07:59
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schestowitz-TRI went back and forth thinking whether to reboot after the backup, but decided that no... no needJul 20 08:08
schestowitz-TRtoo many things to reconnected to, short gemini uptime, chace of some services not coming back Jul 20 08:08
schestowitz-TRon their own, or even the pi itself not coming backJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRwill wait until there's no choice but to reboot, e.g. outageJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRthen will go through the list of things (3 things I think) that I want to work again as tey did beforeJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRsometimes it's better to let the reboot happen "on its own" or "in its time"Jul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRLinux or any OS should not be like this, but this is how it isJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRjust checked mai  laptop's uptime, it's 92 daysJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRwith kde neon a reboot after updates is even more risky as almost the whole system gets swapped over Jul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRrunning tmux now on tuxmachines-newJul 20 08:09
schestowitz-TRat some point we'll pass monitoring to the newer OSesJul 20 08:09
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 08:09
Techrights-sec2yes with major updates, especially when crucial libraries get updated,Jul 20 08:09
Techrights-sec2it is often best to have a full reboot to ensure that all daemons reloadJul 20 08:09
Techrights-sec2alternatively, one can restart all the daemons manuallyJul 20 08:09
Techrights-sec2but that's not so efficient  Jul 20 08:09
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schestowitz-TRiirc, last pi "reboot" (power cut) it came back with gemini-proxy not runningJul 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRI don't have that mnonitoredJul 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRbut iirc, I set systemd to auto-restart it on bootJul 20 08:11
schestowitz-TRI also have todo list of checks/tasks for each type of oputside (server, network, irc...)Jul 20 08:11
schestowitz-TR*outage, not "oputside"... whatever that typing is... memory muscleJul 20 08:11
schestowitz-TR*muscle memoryJul 20 08:11
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Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 08:15
schestowitz-TRdoneJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRsome of the people who destroyed freenode have entered our irc channelsJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRI try to put them offJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRbut they keep coming back Jul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRkaniini kicked out one of themJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRrianne and "her" black cat are gardening today, rain expected fridatJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRthe grass is yellowing here, the gracevard looks dryJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TR*graveyardJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRit's usually very green, part of a large parkJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TR2018 we lost a lot of public grass areasJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRthey were done for to the coreJul 20 08:18
schestowitz-TRsome never recovered sinceJul 20 08:18
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 08:19
Techrights-sec2still getting through the logs, it can take a bit since it's not all in oneJul 20 08:19
Techrights-sec2goJul 20 08:19
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 08:20
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schestowitz-TRotaJul 20 09:01
schestowitz-TRdone, 30 mins totalJul 20 09:01
schestowitz-TRmentioned zemlin as weak leader who cannot dissent against firmsJul 20 09:01
schestowitz-TRthanks for the links, catching up nowJul 20 09:01
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 09:05
Techrights-sec2looking at the SQLite3 database structure.  The body table will need redoingJul 20 09:05
Techrights-sec2in order to implement a limited full-text search capabilityJul 20 09:05
Techrights-sec2yes, it's kind of a decapitation tactic of sorts, a huge distraction / ruckusJul 20 09:05
Techrights-sec2keeps people from noticing what actually went onJul 20 09:05
schestowitz-TRseems like a trendJul 20 09:05
schestowitz-TRput the wrong people in chargeJul 20 09:05
schestowitz-TRdebian, LF, OSI...Jul 20 09:05
schestowitz-TRlobbyists have asserted control of ewpoJul 20 09:05
Techrights-sec2how important would full-text searching be for TM in the future?Jul 20 09:07
Techrights-sec2I'd like to avoid useing postgresql instead of sqlite3 but the latter hasJul 20 09:07
Techrights-sec2some severe limitations in text and blob fields.  The blob is good for Jul 20 09:07
Techrights-sec2storage but cannot be searched.  Ok.  Jul 20 09:07
Techrights-sec2ohJul 20 09:07
schestowitz-TRsearch is not so importantJul 20 09:07
schestowitz-TRdsearch is for original worksJul 20 09:07
schestowitz-TRnot a "daily fix" of links to other sitesJul 20 09:07
schestowitz-TRsince susan left we've not published anything in-depathJul 20 09:07
Techrights-sec2searching by title or date is easy to set up in SQLite3 since those areJul 20 09:12
Techrights-sec2contained in fields which are short enough to remain as textJul 20 09:12
schestowitz-TRthis is usually enough, but if we use the same VMS in TR later, than didffernt use caseJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRcurrent use ncase:Jul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRvisitors often use gulag search for the domainJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfor rinanJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRand IJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRwe rely on browser history/autocopleteJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRwifor recent and related titlesJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRe.g. tuxedo (OEM)Jul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfailing that, checking by title would be enoughJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TResp. if the searches are prioritised by recencyJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRso that we can add updates in the right pageJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfor visitors I think search is not important as all they want is quickl updates with pointers to news of interesta dn relevance to themJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRthis is usually enough, but if we use the same VMS in TR later, than didffernt use caseJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRcurrent use ncase:Jul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRvisitors often use gulag search for the domainJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfor rinanJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRand IJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRwe rely on browser history/autocopleteJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRwifor recent and related titlesJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRe.g. tuxedo (OEM)Jul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfailing that, checking by title would be enoughJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TResp. if the searches are prioritised by recencyJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRso that we can add updates in the right pageJul 20 09:14
schestowitz-TRfor visitors I think search is not important as all they want is quickl updates with pointers to news of interesta dn relevance to themJul 20 09:14
Techrights-sec2okJul 20 09:18
Techrights-sec2considering modification to one table anyway, it'll take a bit of planningJul 20 09:22
schestowitz-TRthanks, I reckon TM will be around for decades moreJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRif not www, then gemini etc.Jul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRkaniini and I spoke about it in #techrights yesterdayJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRshe thought what we too had thoughJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRgenerating p;ages or exporting to multiple formats/protocolsJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRit's even simpler with gemtextJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRe.g. Jul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRquotesJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRand '''' (slanted, 3, not 4)Jul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRtuxmachines pattern is simpleJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRwe have about 4-5 templates Jul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRthat apply to aggregation styles)Jul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRbtw number of people online in irc increased in recent monthsJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRthe protocol that refuse to dieJul 20 09:25
Techrights-sec2as long as the discussion is on-topic there, that is goodJul 20 09:25
schestowitz-TRtrolls can be drowned out or ignoredJul 20 09:27
schestowitz-TRor you can pick a dailt link that's provocativeJul 20 09:27
schestowitz-TRto shift the focusJul 20 09:27
schestowitz-TRThe Modern Web's Many Single Points of Failure gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-20-the-modern-web-s-many-single-points-of-failure.gmiJul 20 09:33
schestowitz-TRbbl exercisJul 20 09:33
Techrights-sec2goodJul 20 09:33
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schestowitzx https://itwire.com/it-people-news/education/microsoft,-uts-launch-new-course-to-%e2%80%98help-solve%e2%80%99-technology-skills-shortage.htmlJul 20 09:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Microsoft, UTS launch new course to ‘help solve’ technology skills shortageJul 20 09:45
schestowitz-TRwhy itwire is nothing to me...Jul 20 09:45
schestowitz-TRsam barely has any relevant output anymoreJul 20 09:45
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Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 09:49
schestowitz-TRiow, giving it any 'goioglejuice ' (gulagjuice??) would mean amplifying all that other crap and all in all increasing the damage to uswJul 20 09:50
schestowitz-TRhereas linux9-5 (9to5l Jul 20 09:50
schestowitz-TRlinux) would meanm helping the causeJul 20 09:50
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 09:56
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schestowitz A moment of self-reflection?Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzDear colleagues,Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzIn its recent sessions, the ILO-AT has been taking a clear stance on the freedom of association, and how the EPO administration has been implementing it with Social Democrazy 1.0 (CA/D 2/14).Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzThe Tribunal quashed the way the administration interferes with Staff Rep elections (Judgment 4482); declared the regulations on strike illegal (Judgments 4330-4335); gave back the access to mass email (Judgment 4551); and lifted the limitations on who the Staff Representation can nominate in the Appeals Committee (Judgment 4550) – all judgments are worth a read.Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzWe should not forget that all of this Social Democrazy 1.0 was aimed at hindering staff – and its representation – to make a stance against the administration, and that it came before a never-ending series of far-reaching and consistently detrimental reforms which have turned the EPO into an organization many of us do not recognize anymore – and that many of us cannot recommend to anyone anymore.Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzWe can only hope that management will come to the inevitable conclusion that it might have been a good idea to listen to staff and its representation all along: the fundamental flaws the Tribunal ruled upon, were the ones we had been pointing out to the administration all along.Jul 20 13:45
schestowitzIt is still possible to turn the tide, for the administration to work with staff, rather than against it.Jul 20 13:45
schestowitz-TR----Jul 20 15:15
schestowitz-TRmaking some progress on the true story of nat and miguelJul 20 15:15
schestowitz-TRsniff out one piece of shit person, get a cliqueJul 20 15:15
schestowitz-TRsniff out a clique, make a whole company shiverJul 20 15:15
schestowitz------------------Jul 20 16:00
schestowitz[SUEPO] Appeal Education Reform Post secondary - TODAY sent by email to all SUEPO TH membersJul 20 16:00
schestowitzDear SUEPO member,Jul 20 16:00
schestowitzOn 24 February 2022, SUEPO provided model review requests to its members to challenge individual aspects of the Education and Childcare reform related to the definition of direct/indirect costs for Primary/Secondary and Post-Secondary Education.Jul 20 16:00
schestowitzSome of you submitted a review request (RfR) and received a negative decision from the administration.Jul 20 16:00
schestowitzDue to the nature of the reimbursement system the deadlines to submit an appeal are spread across the year, in any case within 3 months period from the date of your RfR rejection.Jul 20 16:00
schestowitzFor some of you is therefore already the time to file an internal appeal related to Post-Secondary Education. SUEPO has engaged a renowned law firm to draw up model internal appeals. If you are a member of SUEPO TH, please check your email as the following required documents were emailed to you today:Jul 20 16:00
schestowitzInstruction on how to file the Appeal with important informationJul 20 16:00
schestowitzAppeal Template – Post-Secondary EducationJul 20 16:00
schestowitzList of Annexes.Jul 20 16:01
schestowitzUpon completion, email the appeal, attachments, and proof of payment to the Appeals Committee at xxxxxrg and copy to xxxxxorg and request acknowledgement of receipt!Jul 20 16:01
schestowitzYour SUEPO TH CommitteeJul 20 16:01
schestowitzPs: we would like to remind you that SUEPO is preparing another Appeal Template related to the non-adjustment of the ceilings of the Education and Childcare Allowances. Please check your email regularly for update on this case.Jul 20 16:01
schestowitz-Jul 20 16:01
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schestowitz-TRdraftJul 20 18:20
schestowitz-TRcleaning feeds nowJul 20 18:20
Techrights-sec2just moved the DocumentRoot on the mockup; it is now a clone / checkout of Jul 20 18:30
Techrights-sec2the TM Git repository; not all the files are represented in the repositoryJul 20 18:30
Techrights-sec2but not all should be -- at least not where they are now.Jul 20 18:30
Techrights-sec2Also there is the possibility of playing with HTML forms.Jul 20 18:30
schestowitz-TRniiice...Jul 20 18:30
schestowitz-TRtryint it nowJul 20 18:30
schestowitz-TRthe layout is a lot better nowJul 20 18:33
schestowitz-TRsearches can be used for ddos, anything that caused a script to runJul 20 18:33
Techrights-sec2yes, that is a risk -- if we decide to finish the search testJul 20 18:35
Techrights-sec2though the number of concurrent processes is limited by the server            Jul 20 18:35
Techrights-sec2automatically Jul 20 18:35
schestowitz-TRsometimes it is a search engine, as drew devault pointed out a few months agoJul 20 18:36
schestowitz-TRI think the current TM site comes under heavy load when overzealous crawlers click on things that are not properly cached or optimisedJul 20 18:36
Techrights-sec2alpine has nftables available to filter misbehavior address rangesJul 20 18:38
Techrights-sec2good point about caching, perhaps there is a header which can be addedJul 20 18:38
Techrights-sec2to the HTTP daemon to encourage caching for a longer periodJul 20 18:38
schestowitz-TRdid 16 posts in 24 hoursJul 20 18:58
schestowitz-TRdespite oversleeping 4 hoursJul 20 18:58
schestowitz-TRmostly owing to abandonment of gulagJul 20 18:58
Techrights-sec2excellentJul 20 18:59
Techrights-sec2it's a timesaving move to avoid junk like Google News and various Jul 20 18:59
Techrights-sec2social control media interfacesJul 20 18:59
schestowitz-TRremind yourself you did not make an error while they were still modest and decentJul 20 19:00
schestowitz-TRit's how they changed over time that ruined them, and in turn your mindJul 20 19:00
schestowitz-TRs/n ratio, ui, visibility of what's relevant (twitter and identica were ok at this at the start)Jul 20 19:00
Techrights-sec2they;re about "engagement" not performanceJul 20 19:01
schestowitz-TRas you put it, interfaces is what they asreJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRnois-adding or filtering uisJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRalso, for a while I used twitter accounts as rss feedsJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRfor very particular accounts such as zoobabJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRtwitter played a game of whack-a-mobile aginst proxies such as theseJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRdeath blow in 2018 iircJul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRmaybe 2019Jul 20 19:03
schestowitz-TRso I told zoobab to reconsider how he produced outputJul 20 19:03
Techrights-sec2not just the UI but the "information" they promote and demote is designedJul 20 19:05
Techrights-sec2to alter public opinion under the illusion of communicationJul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TReach time someone tries to "fix" FB or Twitter by offering some tools like twitterdeck of rss feeds they get all angry that the shit, which they DO NTIOTJul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TREVEN CREATE (serdom) is now presented the way "INTENDED"Jul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TRSo they start mass banningJul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TRI heard it kept happening in FB tooJul 20 19:05
Techrights-sec2yesJul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TRnot just ad blockingJul 20 19:05
schestowitz-TRmay things that try to "fix" the UIJul 20 19:06
schestowitz-TRuser iinterface that fucks your mind up "IS NOT OPTIONAL!"Jul 20 19:06
schestowitz-TRlast nigth in the video i help up a duovenir that says berlin Jul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TR*sJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRI don't have fond memories, and not because of any unusual inccidentJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRin wintertime it's not a pleasant placeJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRsure, some flight departure delays sucked too, but at least I was typing articles aboutJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRpatents in the airportJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRnow, with expectations of distance, it's not even remoately an optionJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRand I told rianne not to take us/coach as insulation there is worseJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TR*busJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TRshe leaves 11am, so should be quite vacantJul 20 19:10
schestowitz-TR10 pounds return to yorkshire (aunt)Jul 20 19:10
Techrights-sec2I hope the air is safe on the busJul 20 19:11
schestowitz-TRtrain. I said no coach, we also boycott that company for reasons I think I blogged about at least onceJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRjourneys to liverpool mostlyJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRthe coaches are generally more spacious than a busJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRshe will stay indoorsJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRaun't hunsband died some months agoJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRaunt'sJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRa good old friend of mine in Flordian is still in hospitalJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TRand I worry he won't leaveJul 20 19:13
schestowitz-TR*FloridaJul 20 19:13
Techrights-sec2ahJul 20 19:14
Techrights-sec2same for the train Jul 20 19:14
Techrights-sec2I hope he gets better but health care in the US is quite industrial and notJul 20 19:14
Techrights-sec2about curingJul 20 19:14
schestowitz-TRhis kids can afford to get him the best careJul 20 19:14
schestowitz-TRwe shall see, he's that blogger in his 90sJul 20 19:14
Techrights-sec2it's about insurance though  Jul 20 19:15
Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 19:15
Techrights-sec2that's a rough age to have any of those kinds of emergenciesJul 20 19:15
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schestowitz-TR2 of his sons are doctors and I'm in touch with bothJul 20 19:18
schestowitz-TRI'd rather not think about it too much as thinking leads to spculationJul 20 19:18
schestowitz-TRanyway, I'll try to clean the feeds, then napJul 20 19:18
schestowitz-TRI'm pleased when I'm productive wrt articlesJul 20 19:18
schestowitz-TRthose are long-term items, I just need to ensure they edue the "progress" of "tech" (treadmill)Jul 20 19:18
schestowitz-TRwordpress 12 will be out in a few years ;-)Jul 20 19:18
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schestowitz-TR> "Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the Linux Foundation, was invited to participate," but he knows absolutely nothing about security and his wife is a Microsofer https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/takeaways-from-the-white-house-cyber-workforce-and-education-summit/Jul 20 19:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxfoundation.org | Takeaways from the White House Cyber Workforce and Education Summit - Linux FoundationJul 20 19:26
schestowitz-TRWho Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/Jul 20 19:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | TechrightsJul 20 19:26
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Techrights-sec2ackJul 20 19:54
schestowitz-TRthis week's new is pleasant so farJul 20 19:55
schestowitz-TRnot much anti-Linux BSJul 20 19:55
schestowitz-TRso farJul 20 19:55
Techrights-sec2where is gitshell for Alpine?Jul 20 20:09
Techrights-sec2^git-shellJul 20 20:09
schestowitz-TRi am not so familar with alpine yetJul 20 20:09
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> We're Back to 1,000+ COVID-19 Deaths Per Week, Reports About Excess Mortality Suddenly Stop https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/20/july-covid-mortality/Jul 20 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » We’re Back to 1,000+ COVID-19 Deaths Per Week, Reports About Excess Mortality Suddenly StopJul 20 20:15
Techrights-sec2found it...Jul 20 20:15
Techrights-sec2tightened down the git account to use only the git-shell Jul 20 20:21
schestowitz-TRexcellent, assumign we later move git@TR to the other OS, the steps will be the sameJul 20 20:21
Techrights-sec2 Jul 20 20:22
Techrights-sec2git activities work, but not other programsJul 20 20:22
Techrights-sec2assuming they can be remembered :/Jul 20 20:22
schestowitz-TRgit pull works Jul 20 20:25
schestowitz-TRlots of green plusesJul 20 20:25
schestowitz-TRI'd give that a "Jul 20 20:25
schestowitz-TRlike"Jul 20 20:25
schestowitz-TRso you can collect "likes" ans cash them in at the local bankJul 20 20:25
Techrights-sec2git-shell is now the shell for the account and the git-shell-commands directoryJul 20 20:26
Techrights-sec2is in use, tooJul 20 20:26
Techrights-sec2great, that's as it should beJul 20 20:26
Techrights-sec2on the blochain tho?Jul 20 20:26
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schestowitz-TRdistributed bartering logs do not scale wellJul 20 20:27
schestowitz-TRyou end up using up energy and network capacityJul 20 20:27
schestowitz-TRbut it's a nice japenese experimentJul 20 20:27
schestowitz-TRfrom the wastebasketJul 20 20:27
schestowitz-TR(if the story is true)Jul 20 20:27
*spazzz is now known as spazzJul 20 20:34

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