●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021 ●● ● Nov 20 [00:15] *altlink_6eb has quit (connection closed) [00:15] *altlink_8a0 (~altlink_8a0@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:40] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 20 [01:00] *techrights_guest|61 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:24] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:24] *activelow (~activelow@s3gpcdb5iajbw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:40] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:58] schestowitz this page was automatically created and is linked to from the wiki index, however it doesn't work (not sure why) gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium/ ● Nov 20 [02:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pww2tyv3ameeu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:38] *techrights_guest|14 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:48] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Nov 20 [03:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@42f9jyz5rt2k8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [04:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jjhadpbwk6kf4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [05:35] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jjhadpbwk6kf4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [06:09] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Nov 20 [08:43] *techrights_guest|14 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Nov 20 [09:07] Techrights-sec Directory index disabled. [09:07] Techrights-sec There's nothing in the directory itself so I'll look into that, probably [09:07] Techrights-sec the process fails somewhere before completion. [09:07] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium/ [09:07] Techrights-sec does not exist [09:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium/ - Techrights [09:07] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium [09:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium - Techrights [09:08] Techrights-sec exists, so there might be a broken link pointing to the first one somewhere [09:08] Techrights-sec One problem is that the wiki is interpreting the literal blockquote and [09:08] Techrights-sec making a mailto: link: [09:08] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/Why_are_we_giving_out_the_Office_2000_formats [09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Why are we giving out the Office 2000 formats - Techrights [09:08] Techrights-sec Is this page broken or missing? http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/px03078.pdf [09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 404 Not Found [09:08] Techrights-sec Work around for now is to ignore all mailto and treat as normal text [09:08] Techrights-sec pushed to Git [09:08] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/Why_are_we_giving_out_the_Office_2000_formats#Full_Exhibit has a wonky link [09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Why are we giving out the Office 2000 formats - Techrights [09:09] schestowitz-TR yesterday I added two new pages to the wiki, hence I noticed this. Maybe when I have spare time I should tidy up existing stuff rather than write new? Always a trade-off, but surely the wiki could be improved a great deal [09:11] Techrights-sec there is a lot of benefit from periodic tidying. If possible, can we [09:11] Techrights-sec rename pages with paths containing ; " ' and & in them? It would [09:11] Techrights-sec not only simplify things, it would (IMO) add another layer of safety to [09:11] Techrights-sec the scripts, especially anything shell script related. [09:12] schestowitz-TR aliasing pages in the wiki would prevent bad links, but I sort of forgot how to do it, I just know it can be done. [09:13] schestowitz-TR BTW, letting people have read-only direct access to git would be problematic if hiding your initials is required [09:13] schestowitz-TR I've just studied the latest 3 commits [09:16] Techrights-sec ack [09:16] Techrights-sec Yes, they are there in the commits. I figure we should make another repository for the public, read-only edition. [09:16] Techrights-sec "plan to throw one away" so to speak [09:16] Techrights-sec this one has been for practice and there are still a few important tasks [09:16] Techrights-sec to master before publishing, I would say. [09:16] schestowitz-TR OTOH, this can encourage people to get a gemini client [09:17] schestowitz-TR I took two days OFF next week, rianne took the weekend off (she usually works weekends only), now working towards naturalisation [09:20] Techrights-sec Excellent. [09:21] Techrights-sec Is there a projected timeline for naturalization? [09:21] Techrights-sec As for promoting Gemini clients, that would mainly happen via good packaging [09:21] Techrights-sec in a few key distros. Debian is still upstream from the most popular ones. [09:22] schestowitz-TR rianne will be meeting a lawyer from a .org next week, I think the prospects are good, but I won't be joining as covid-19 is a risk and maybe soon even meetings won't be possible at al [09:27] Techrights-sec Yes, that (and the other pandemics) get worse rather than better. The vaccines [09:27] Techrights-sec do little to prevent contagion. They reduce the load on the ICUs but not [09:27] Techrights-sec much more and they need refreshing every six months at 25 Euro pe [09:28] schestowitz-TR more [09:28] schestowitz-TR I know the prices [09:28] schestowitz-TR it''s a bloody racket [09:28] schestowitz-TR I try to mention it along the way in almost every video about patents [09:28] Techrights-sec [09:28] Techrights-sec Fact-checking has become more and more ideological and less and less related [09:28] Techrights-sec to the statement of empirical facts. The doses have a cost. Yet discussion [09:28] Techrights-sec gets quieted or shut down completely. [09:28] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [09:29] schestowitz-TR I still want to know the total production cost; remember that legal liability isn't a component as they waive that away [09:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [10:13] *rianne_ is now known as s [10:14] *s is now known as [10:15] * is now known as cg [10:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9m9ztyuhqvsx4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [11:56] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [12:16] *altlink_8a0 has quit (connection closed) [12:16] *altlink_2b9 (~altlink_2b9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 20 [14:36] *techrights_guest|61 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Nov 20 [15:27] Techrights-sec Is this site legitimate? [15:27] Techrights-sec https://newsnationusa.com/news/technology/nasa-apparently-needs-to-swot-up-on-its-open-source-knowledge/ [15:27] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsNation [15:27] -altlink_2b9/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: newsnationusa.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsnationusa.com/news/technology/nasa-apparently-needs-to-swot-up-on-its-open-source-knowledge/ [15:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-newsnationusa.com | NASA apparently needs to swot up on its open-source knowledge - News Nation USA [15:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | NewsNation - Wikipedia [15:27] schestowitz-TR fake [15:27] schestowitz-TR I know it [15:27] Techrights-sec Ok I'll add it to the filter. thanks [15:27] Techrights-sec Pushed to Git now. ● Nov 20 [16:20] Techrights-sec There has been a big upswing in clearly (and not so clearly) dodgy sites [16:20] Techrights-sec posting many detailed articles about FOSS and GNU/Linux in particular. [16:20] Techrights-sec The has been the case for a month or so at least. [16:26] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [16:33] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [17:13] schestowitz this was picked up correctly gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo/ [17:20] Techrights-sec excellent. the new changes to the wiki will get picked up daily via RSS [17:20] Techrights-sec unless they have ; & ' " in the title. [17:20] Techrights-sec It's not necessary to ban those but having them can in principle be problematic [17:20] Techrights-sec for any shell scripts that might be in use. [17:21] schestowitz-TR I've only just published many historical data points about IRC, maybe I will follow that up tomorrow [17:23] Techrights-sec for any shell scripts that might be in use. [17:23] Techrights-sec Perl scripts contain those properly, with the right methods. [17:23] Techrights-sec Good, IRC is important too. [17:23] schestowitz-TR MSM pretends never to have heard of it, never mind if I've used it as long as I've been a teen [17:24] Techrights-sec Mainstream media pushes "Slack" over IRC and like to pretend that IRC does [17:24] Techrights-sec not exist. [17:24] Techrights-sec Anything which raises the profile of IRC in a good way benefits the open Internet [17:24] Techrights-sec back in about 30 minutes ● Nov 20 [18:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@s5ekei3qmiqye.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [19:48] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 20 [20:12] *techrights_guest|80 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zvq6hxt9rta2a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:49] *asusbox (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Nov 20 [22:21] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)