●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 21, 2022 ●● ● Apr 21 [00:34] schestowitz-TR In case it is an FS thing, I've checkeded the video dir for zero-size files and nothing there [00:34] schestowitz-TR now I test TM backups on TR [00:34] schestowitz-TR the one for apr 19 returned an error, 16 also, 17 OK, 15 not OK (gunzip fails), 13, 14, 20 also [00:34] schestowitz-TR damaged [00:34] schestowitz-TR "invalid compressed data--format violated" [00:34] schestowitz-TR on TM:/home/boycottn I can gunzip the fole OK [00:34] schestowitz-TR I am now testing TR wordpress backup [00:34] schestowitz-TR 20/04 fails, (same error as for TM gunzip), 19/04 fails also, 18/04 works OK, 8gb not compressed, [00:34] schestowitz-TR 17 fails, 16 fails, 15 fails, 14 (oldest) fdails also [00:34] schestowitz-TR so of all the backups only 18-04 iis usable for TR wordpress, I checked head and tail of the dump too [00:40] schestowitz-TR in /var/log/messages I see nothing of interest. with wiki db dump, gunzip ok with 20-04,19-04, NOT 18-04, [00:40] schestowitz-TR 17 through 14-04 are all OK. AFAIK, we never properly tested any of the backup on this new server until [00:40] schestowitz-TR this month, so maybe gzip running so fast on many cores leads to it? I'm only guessing. Best check/safe [00:40] schestowitz-TR than be sorry later. [00:45] schestowitz-TR drupaldatabase is a lot smaller, 14,18, and 20 fail to gunzip, the rest are OK ● Apr 21 [01:03] schestowitz-TR I've tested the hypothesis this is an old issue, undetected until now [01:03] schestowitz-TR I tried to uncopmpress 5 files (one 2022, 2 2021, 2 from 2020) and they all worked fine [01:16] *schestowitz has quit (*.net *.split) [01:16] *rianne_ has quit (*.net *.split) [01:16] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [01:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@joseon-b0g.0m6.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:16] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [01:16] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell [01:17] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [01:17] *rianne_ has quit (*.net *.split) [01:17] *schestowitz has quit (*.net *.split) [01:17] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Server shutting down) [01:17] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). 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[09:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:38] Techrights-sec we do have the temporary machine to test backups on for a few more days [09:38] Techrights-sec whois $(host itwire.com 2>&1 | awk '/address/ {print $4; exit}') | grep "^Org" [09:38] Techrights-sec :( [09:38] Techrights-sec AFAIK a recent change [09:38] Techrights-sec ack [09:38] schestowitz-TR woke up afteer belated easter rest [09:38] schestowitz-TR will catch up here shortly [09:38] schestowitz-TR want to post some links, catch up with irc, and gemini first [09:42] schestowitz-TR OK, I am ready now [09:42] schestowitz-TR checking itwire [09:42] schestowitz-TR I don't have whois installed and prefer to minimise number of new packages [09:42] schestowitz-TR what does the output show? [09:42] schestowitz-TR Also: [09:42] schestowitz-TR 1) did you see the gemni ling about long covid and taste [09:42] schestowitz-TR 2) i suspect the gif meme issue might be a coincidence or it could be anyone, but I assured myself it's a sole casee [09:42] schestowitz-TR 3) after (2) I decided to revisit a week-old issue we forgot about with gunzip, I reckon the dumps are fine, [09:42] schestowitz-TR compressing them is the issue [09:46] Techrights-sec try here, it's installed [09:46] Techrights-sec 1) not yet [09:46] Techrights-sec 2) ?? [09:46] Techrights-sec 3) strange that gzip is not reliable [09:50] Techrights-sec port xxxxxxx [09:50] Techrights-sec no, but I can guess at what it says about symptoms [09:50] Techrights-sec https://www.nhsinform.scot/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/signs-and-symptoms/long-covid-loss-of-smell-or-taste/ [09:50] Techrights-sec :/ [09:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nhsinform.scot | Long COVID: Loss of smell or taste | Long-term effects of COVID-19 [09:54] Techrights-sec https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0265686 [09:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-journals.plos.org | Persisting olfactory dysfunction in post-COVID-19 is associated with gustatory impairment: Results from chemosensitive testing eight months after the acute infection [09:56] schestowitz-TR "The horrible virus has done my tastebuds in. This is *deeply* annoying and frustrating for me. If I try and eat meat or some forms [09:56] schestowitz-TR of citrus then it tastes of cigarettes." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420 [09:56] schestowitz-TR I'm connected to the server (test), I see it's public_html only, was about to test gunzip on older backups [09:56] schestowitz-TR I choose to think that the gif file becoming empty was an accident, at worse vandalism, at worst 'inside job' (LF) [09:56] schestowitz-TR but the gunzip think seems to be older, it's just that we noticed it thanks [sic] to the TM incident [09:56] schestowitz-TR and last night I realised it was also affecting TR backups ● Apr 21 [10:00] schestowitz-TR testing the 3 TR backups from last night with gunzip, just out of curiousity [10:00] schestowitz-TR tbh, if one in two works OK, then we might be 'safe', but this is not the way it shoudld work [10:01] schestowitz-TR and I saw no system level warnings that should suggest file system level problems [10:01] schestowitz-TR OK, wordpress dump from this morning works OK [10:01] schestowitz-TR i did head and tail on it too [10:01] schestowitz-TR it's 7.8gb [10:01] *Despatche_ has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [10:01] schestowitz-TR this morning's drupal DB is 'bad' (rather, the gz file) [10:01] schestowitz-TR wiki is OK [10:01] schestowitz-TR wiki OK for 2 mornings in a row now, 1.1gb uncompressed [10:01] Techrights-sec ack [10:01] Techrights-sec reading gemini link atm [10:01] Techrights-sec yes I've not unpacked much more than that [10:01] Techrights-sec I'm doing backups again atm and will test the compression in about 20 to 30 [10:01] Techrights-sec minutes [10:01] Techrights-sec troubling [10:01] Techrights-sec could a disk be going bad? [10:02] schestowitz-TR that's what I'd like to know [10:02] schestowitz-TR but other than that meme file becoming zero sized with system datastamp not changed [10:02] schestowitz-TR I did not notice any other problem [10:02] schestowitz-TR also, all the video checksums are always OK [10:11] schestowitz-TR TM and TR are on the same physical host [10:11] schestowitz-TR On TM, last night I attempted to gunzip ther single singhly dump [10:11] schestowitz-TR it waent OK and one minute ago I did this morning's dump too. it went OK. [10:11] schestowitz-TR I'm willing to not write anything for a while just to ensure we test our backups and don't lose site files [10:11] schestowitz-TR other than the meme mystery I could not see any other issue, but you might want to run a seatch for zero-sized files [10:11] schestowitz-TR not sure if awk is needed, I think bash and fnd can do [10:22] Techrights-sec find can do it [10:22] Techrights-sec find /path/ -type f -size 0c -print [10:23] schestowitz-TR do you want to run that or should I? [10:23] schestowitz-TR Like I said, assuming vandalism, even echo '' > file [10:23] schestowitz-TR the time stamp on that empty file would be changed [10:24] Techrights-sec which path? [10:24] Techrights-sec yes in most, but not all, cases [10:25] schestowitz-TR let's try the whole user ~ [10:25] schestowitz-TR see if we can find a pattern of interest [10:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:27] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:29] Techrights-sec ok I will run it, I suppost ionice should be used with it [10:29] Techrights-sec see /tmp/find.log [10:29] schestowitz-TR thanks, looking.... [10:38] schestowitz-TR i [10:38] schestowitz-TR so far it looks OK [10:38] schestowitz-TR the VID files I think I uploaded temporarily there and later flushed them [10:38] schestowitz-TR the rest are things like locks (so far) [10:38] schestowitz-TR we need to back up root /root sometimes [10:38] schestowitz-TR nothing critical there, but if lost, we'd have to restore stuff from there [10:38] schestowitz-TR some of it is ancient (>10 years ago) [10:39] schestowitz-TR I see two "other links" empty, but that's probably by design [10:39] schestowitz-TR EOF :-) [10:39] schestowitz-TR OK, much of that I can justify as "yes, makes sense" [10:39] schestowitz-TR the file that I saw empty yesterday I still suspect was rubbed off [10:39] schestowitz-TR maybe by someone who did not like the meme [10:39] schestowitz-TR but the guzip thing was VERY VERY important to the bottom of regardless [10:39] schestowitz-TR maybe guzip ~/archive/*.gz [10:39] schestowitz-TR to see what's the "earliest" bad GZ file [10:39] schestowitz-TR if you have a copy of that offline [10:39] schestowitz-TR or just -t for testing [10:39] schestowitz-TR which I guess I could do on the live server? [10:39] schestowitz-TR remember: THIS IS MY LIFE'S and SUSAN's and RIANNE'S work, inc. on holidays [10:39] schestowitz-TR and although we're not a "BANK" this data will need to be secured for history's sake [10:39] schestowitz-TR we don't have a bank's budget, but see what happened to Groklaw just a few years down the line [10:40] Techrights-sec ok [10:40] Techrights-sec yes those were probably days when the old file was appened instead of the [10:40] Techrights-sec new file; the new work flow reduces the likelihood of that [10:40] Techrights-sec which GIF? [10:40] schestowitz-TR re the gif file, see what I wrote last night and then pasted again an hour ago [10:41] Techrights-sec remember the -c option [10:41] Techrights-sec yes I will try with the offline copy [10:41] Techrights-sec best not to mess with the live copy [10:41] Techrights-sec either way it will be slow; processing ... [10:41] Techrights-sec yes [10:42] Techrights-sec groklaw made some mistakes (perhaps intentionally) regarding conversion [10:42] Techrights-sec to a static site [10:42] Techrights-sec I don't have the scroll back and did not notice a URL for a GIF either time [10:42] Techrights-sec or a path [10:46] Techrights-sec ack [10:55] schestowitz-TR let's leave that aside, suppose the file system is OK [10:55] schestowitz-TR I did some gulagwandering for forums re gzip/gunzip [10:55] schestowitz-TR assuming maybe the hardware itself can damage the integrity of the archive [10:55] schestowitz-TR because, afaik, since moving to this server we never had to restart a DB [10:55] schestowitz-TR until this month [10:55] schestowitz-TR if we find some bad archives from 2021, then we know it's not a new issue [10:55] schestowitz-TR and predates thec change of physical media in February (IIRC) [10:56] schestowitz-TR I mean, restore a DB, not restart a DB [10:56] schestowitz-TR but we rarely had to restart the DB as well, since the DBs got moved to a container of their own [10:57] Techrights-sec there is also the question of LXC, I don't know how experimental it is [10:57] Techrights-sec It will take a while longer to finish the regular backups and then [10:57] Techrights-sec run gunzip -c on the files [10:57] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 21 [11:01] schestowitz-TR I guess that I should be relieved that as a side effect of this mishap/incident we're made to look [11:01] schestowitz-TR closely into a real issue, and moreover do some sanity checks [11:01] schestowitz-TR there were some blessings in disguide lately, like finding out about obs studio due to noisetorch/kde neon woes [11:01] schestowitz-TR and distributing tuxmachines DB dumbs across 12-hour intervansl, among other things [11:02] schestowitz-TR as I said, writing new nmaterial is far less important than assuring the integrity of masses of old material [11:02] schestowitz-TR not many sites can last this long in an age with a "long term support" is just 5 years [11:02] schestowitz-TR and media shifting, host shifting etc. is routinely required [11:02] schestowitz-TR we already moved this setup a lot, 2 moved (or 3 including initial) under this host [11:02] schestowitz-TR plus a migration to another physical drive, jyst months ago [11:02] schestowitz-TR thgis is 'the fun' of 'IT' [11:02] schestowitz-TR imagine other disciplines being so volatil [11:04] schestowitz-TR *volatile [11:04] schestowitz-TR this will have ramifications on a professional and personal level [11:04] schestowitz-TR already you hear of tons ofm people who "lose all their photos [11:04] schestowitz-TR stolen pphone, bad driver, "clown" shutdown (apropos isteon(TM)) [11:04] schestowitz-TR so by pushing people off physical firm you assure they're forgotten fast [11:04] schestowitz-TR *physical film [11:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@y7jsttnatjcu6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:05] Techrights-sec yes [11:05] Techrights-sec there are interests which benefit from the chaos and churn however [11:05] Techrights-sec (on a general level, globally) [11:07] schestowitz-TR they should transform the NSA into "photo restortation services Inc." [11:07] schestowitz-TR finally some positive use for these drift nets of data [11:07] schestowitz-TR (I have millions of files on my external drives, some are backups for relatives too, like a "vault" of sorts) [11:07] schestowitz-TR (every x years the ccaapcity doubles and the "old" drive can be copied into the new, with spare space leftr) [11:09] Techrights-sec :/ it is probably all there in Utah [11:10] schestowitz-TR 3 years ago it added the 'assange file' to it collectiobs [11:10] schestowitz-TR sent from london [11:11] Techrights-sec yes though even on normal drives, bits can flip for no good reason [11:11] Techrights-sec thus the work on OpenZFS and BtrFS in that regards [11:13] schestowitz-TR microsoft, oracle [11:13] schestowitz-TR not much for them to gain from data integrity [11:13] schestowitz-TR too busy w/ graft [11:13] schestowitz-TR then coverup [11:17] Techrights-sec looking at the backups, some recent backups have not been gzipped [11:17] Techrights-sec drupaldatabase-20220419.dump [11:17] Techrights-sec wikidatabase-20220420.dump [11:17] Techrights-sec wikidatabase-20220421.dump [11:17] Techrights-sec wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump [11:17] Techrights-sec if not also some others [11:17] Techrights-sec they should remaain gzipped, the program has a -cc option to avoid [11:17] Techrights-sec affecting the file itself while decompressing [11:17] Techrights-sec the backup drive on this end does not have infinite free space [11:17] Techrights-sec and mysql dumps compress nicely, when they are not corrupted [11:18] Techrights-sec np [11:18] Techrights-sec ok, rerunning the backup [11:18] schestowitz-TR this is me 'testing' them [11:18] schestowitz-TR sorry about that, yes, I did delete some "bad" files afterwards [11:18] schestowitz-TR I think that only for TM the on-server stack of backups goes years back [11:20] Techrights-sec Apr 19 still is uncompressed in the cache on TR [11:20] schestowitz-TR I have deleted it since because this morning's (21) deflated OK [11:20] schestowitz-TR for this past week, the wordpress backups were mostly 'bad' (the GZ files were) [11:20] schestowitz-TR it is a bit scary to think that we can go on for almost a week if not weeks without a working DB dump [11:20] schestowitz-TR to recover from if needed [11:28] Techrights-sec I will compress these on TR: [11:28] Techrights-sec /home/boycottn/drupaldatabase-20220419.dump [11:28] Techrights-sec /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220420.dump [11:28] Techrights-sec /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220421.dump [11:28] Techrights-sec /home/boycottn/wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump [11:28] Techrights-sec yes, but it is more scary to think about the filesystem or the [11:28] Techrights-sec obsolete, defunct operating system [11:39] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:47] schestowitz-TR yes, I tested this one last night and many more too [11:47] schestowitz-TR for 21 it's OK, also on the local (TM) machine [11:47] schestowitz-TR or ratther, that one alone is OK, today at 5pm we'll see if the remote too is OK [11:47] schestowitz-TR what I'd like to know is, when did we start getting bad dumps and why [11:47] schestowitz-TR I did not sleep well because of this [11:47] Techrights-sec ok rsyncing files to the local drive ... [11:47] Techrights-sec gzip: tm-db-20220420.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated [11:47] Techrights-sec :( [11:47] Techrights-sec gzip: tm-db-20220419.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated [11:47] Techrights-sec ok it the next dump will be at 20:12 or so, server time [11:47] Techrights-sec agreed. it is an important question [11:48] schestowitz-TR what we do know it that it predates the issues we had on the tuxmachines web site [11:49] schestowitz-TR because we checked dumps going a week prior to it [11:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:51] Techrights-sec https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-1271 [11:51] Techrights-sec probably not relevant but indicative of a need to upgrade [11:51] Techrights-sec tm-db-20220418.dump.gz is ok [11:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-1271 ● Apr 21 [12:03] Techrights-sec yes [12:09] schestowitz-TR rianne is posting in TM now [12:09] schestowitz-TR I will try to focus not on posts today but more pressing stuff [12:09] schestowitz-TR anyway, one slow week in two decades is not a big deal [12:09] schestowitz-TR there's a lack of important news anyhow (not just in software) [12:10] schestowitz-TR seems like it was a lot more dynamic 10+ years ago [12:10] schestowitz-TR not latest android, or apps, or clown... the industry is stagnating for sure [12:10] schestowitz-TR there is nothing exciting in the new release of ubuntu [12:10] schestowitz-TR and vista * became a shoddy, restrictive "apps" and "advertisiing" (spying) platform [12:10] schestowitz-TR you merely rent to be used [12:10] schestowitz-TR when you give "the people" very shoddy tools (phone and apps) their ability to organise [12:10] schestowitz-TR and make meaningful change ism impeded greratly [12:10] schestowitz-TR and centralisation means you can 'switch people off' [12:10] schestowitz-TR like therew was remorse 'up there' about giving peopple too much power and autonomy [12:10] schestowitz-TR and now it is hip to have spy home ("smart") and rent culture in spotify/netflix [12:10] schestowitz-TR and sharing something with neighbours is like terrorism [12:10] Techrights-sec there are only a small fraction of people at work as tech journalists [12:10] Techrights-sec nowadays compared to even 10 years ago and of those that remain, most [12:10] Techrights-sec are on the payroll of m$ directly or indirectly [12:10] Techrights-sec tm-db-20220417.dump.gz is ok [12:10] Techrights-sec their general productivity goes down and they have to struggle to stay [12:10] Techrights-sec afloat [12:14] schestowitz-TR [10:21] "The UK has an obligation not to send any person to a place where their life or safety is at risk and the g [12:14] schestowitz-TR overnment must not abdicate that responsibility." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se [12:14] schestowitz-TR nt-to-home-sec-for-approval.html | Source: IT Wire (sadly, this site was outsourced to Microsoft criminals) [12:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se ) [12:14] schestowitz-TR I wonder [12:14] schestowitz-TR 1) what this means to work tools of Sam (Email 'collaboration [12:14] schestowitz-TR 2) pressure from above, inc. "suggestions" of topics to cover [12:14] schestowitz-TR His "sauce" blog had its rss feed break many times over the years [12:14] schestowitz-TR they used mambo, then joomla iirc [12:14] schestowitz-TR their site is technically quite a mess [12:14] schestowitz-TR sometimes very slow, sometimes clownflare, sometimes JS a must [12:14] schestowitz-TR stan beer left and now there's some guy I never heard of [12:14] schestowitz-TR their home it to make a profit by some ads, job ads, and puff pieces [12:14] schestowitz-TR sam is not very technical, but he always had a big mouth and was non-conformist [12:14] schestowitz-TR we used to chat a lot behind the scenes [12:14] schestowitz-TR he did get told off my management, iirc, to the point where they removed some [12:14] schestowitz-TR of his articles [12:15] Techrights-sec checking all the gzipped dumps stored here will take a while [12:15] Techrights-sec well the seem to have given him a stout kick in the ass with this recent move [12:19] Techrights-sec "change the system from within" is at best appeasement, which ... [12:19] Techrights-sec ack [12:20] schestowitz-TR you know, I always laughed at this whole "change the system from within" [12:20] schestowitz-TR unless you are an evil mole like elop [12:20] schestowitz-TR aral balkan joked about greta thunberg joining exxon [12:20] schestowitz-TR or the people joining the army to reform it... as if they could [12:20] schestowitz-TR now, in sam's case, he has always worked alongside very troublesome colleagues [12:20] schestowitz-TR many vanished, I still remember some names [12:20] schestowitz-TR some are microsoft boosters in other sites now [12:20] schestowitz-TR e.g. dave winder in forbes [12:20] schestowitz-TR sam stayed there very long [12:20] schestowitz-TR whitney webb started her own blog late [12:20] schestowitz-TR chris hedges is having his work purged [12:20] schestowitz-TR first truthdig [12:20] schestowitz-TR and now gulagtube [12:20] schestowitz-TR there's a lesson to be learned from all this, but if you don't teach people basic technical skills [12:20] schestowitz-TR their blog will collpase at some point and data will be lost [12:20] schestowitz-TR that goes back to the point I made above ^^ about keeping people powerless [12:20] schestowitz-TR dis-empowering people for collectiuve control over them [12:20] schestowitz-TR inc. journalists [12:25] schestowitz-TR sorry to go on a tangent here, but I do think the nature of our hosting (OS upgrade due) gives us high poitential [12:25] schestowitz-TR and advantage, both for TM and TR [12:25] schestowitz-TR phoronix has contraints to do with cost, e.g. electric bills [12:25] schestowitz-TR other sites need to hire expensive tech support to keep going [12:25] schestowitz-TR we have one such client with SLA at work [12:25] schestowitz-TR they are activvists for human rights [12:25] schestowitz-TR but must get support contracts for the tech side [12:25] schestowitz-TR LXer linked to pro-Microsoft article yesterday [12:25] schestowitz-TR they linked to us days ago (as noted today), the traffic they bring these days is minuscule [12:25] schestowitz-TR like x10 less than 10-15 years ago [12:25] schestowitz-TR Linux Today the same [12:25] schestowitz-TR but at the same time social control media becames only/mostly politics/gossip, by intention (to "look big") [12:25] schestowitz-TR right now we attract sources and whistleblowers simply because they have nowhere else to turn [12:25] schestowitz-TR some got censored elsewhere, e.g. Medium vs Lewis [12:25] schestowitz-TR EPO has muzzled even its own union using threats [12:26] Techrights-sec costs tend to increase pressure even when they are meetable [12:26] Techrights-sec I've stopped reading LXer long ago. [12:26] Techrights-sec It's not like they have anything interesting with great frequency any more [12:26] Techrights-sec the worst is so-called and formeer journalist pretending that social control [12:26] Techrights-sec media is a source of information [12:30] schestowitz-TR One has to self-censor a lot when copies go to Twitter [12:30] schestowitz-TR that applied to me too, more so after some sanctions [12:30] schestowitz-TR which were not even for the most "strong" or "controversial" opinions [12:30] schestowitz-TR mostly things to do with Bill and Big Pharma [12:30] schestowitz-TR when I got off all these platforms the tone changed because I didn't have [12:30] schestowitz-TR to justify myself to moderators [12:30] schestowitz-TR so all these former journalists, as RMS might say (citing Chomsky actually; he told this to me in Oxford), [12:30] schestowitz-TR are limited to a very narrow range of permissible views [12:30] schestowitz-TR anything outside the Twitter spectrum is outlandish and puts your very existence at trisk [12:30] schestowitz-TR *risk [12:30] schestowitz-TR the media promotes this idea that Twitter will be "safe" (for now) so long as you are [12:30] schestowitz-TR now some GOPKKK politician or David Ike or some other but [12:30] schestowitz-TR *but [12:30] schestowitz-TR > nut [12:30] schestowitz-TR but the broom goes further and further each year [12:33] schestowitz-TR politician get paid not to tweet but to read law and assess what they are doing [12:33] schestowitz-TR unlike the public which is already over-occupied 9-5+ commute+kids etc. [12:33] schestowitz-TR I give much credit to people who all along saw that social control media was [12:33] schestowitz-TR harmful short-term gratification like smoking [12:33] schestowitz-TR all this "social" stuff goes up in spoke [12:33] schestowitz-TR like Digg.com did, not even many years after it was "talk of the town" [12:36] Techrights-sec How are they able to get so much leverage over the union(s) without turncoats [12:36] Techrights-sec within? [12:36] Techrights-sec yes twittier is one means "they" use to shift the overton window on a great [12:36] Techrights-sec many topics [12:36] Techrights-sec https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/us/politics/overton-window-democrats.html [12:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How the Politically Unthinkable Can Become Mainstream - The New York Times [12:36] Techrights-sec except they do the opposite now [12:36] Techrights-sec https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow [12:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mackinac.org | The Overton Window Mackinac Center [12:36] Techrights-sec digg sucked from day one; it always blocked and hid anything and everything [12:36] Techrights-sec related to both OpenDocument Format and open standards at a time when [12:36] Techrights-sec both were otherwise being discussed across the industry [12:38] schestowitz-TR I could do a TR search on this topic as we did cover how Digg and others had covered -- or had not -- ODF [12:38] schestowitz-TR you would struggle these days to explain to people what the site was, who was there, what was discussed etc. [12:38] schestowitz-TR I put an online copy of all my submissions there [12:38] schestowitz-TR about 10k of them iirc [12:38] schestowitz-TR I also left about 13k comments [12:38] schestowitz-TR all are gone now [12:39] Techrights-sec it was a badly biased site, though perhaps not as bad as conde nast's reddit [12:42] schestowitz-TR the bias if the business mode [12:42] schestowitz-TR *model [12:42] schestowitz-TR many accused it of being very pro-apple [12:42] schestowitz-TR maybe because of the co-founders [12:42] schestowitz-TR but it was also far too soft on microsoft [12:42] schestowitz-TR reddit was starting to emerge [12:42] schestowitz-TR sucking up even harder to microsoft [12:42] schestowitz-TR and then twitter [12:42] schestowitz-TR along with FB [12:42] Techrights-sec which only ever pretends to have open discussions, when it reality [12:42] Techrights-sec they are very tightly controlled and censored [12:44] schestowitz-TR they do not claim to be "free speech"; they use other terms [12:44] schestowitz-TR but, to me, gemini and blogs with rss try to rectify this [12:44] schestowitz-TR even replies should not be in blog posts themselves [12:44] schestowitz-TR but in your own turf [12:44] schestowitz-TR e.g. Re: Leaving Gemini [12:44] schestowitz-TR this way censorship is not a problem at all [12:45] schestowitz-TR and you don't rely on the mercy of other platform owners [12:45] schestowitz-TR or their ability to keep their sites online [12:45] Techrights-sec yes the business model is mass manipulation of public opinion [12:46] schestowitz-TR you mention busiuiness models [12:46] schestowitz-TR look at event brochures of LF [12:46] schestowitz-TR not for attendees [12:46] schestowitz-TR for for sponsors [12:46] schestowitz-TR then you understand what Twitter means to them [12:47] Techrights-sec I think old, pre-sale Slashdot scared them in that regard since for a few [12:47] Techrights-sec years it ws the single most influential site on the net but not under control [12:47] Techrights-sec of either M$ or its aligned interests [12:47] Techrights-sec yep [12:47] Techrights-sec yes, the optimal approach is to have one's own site or blog and post [12:47] Techrights-sec responses there [12:47] Techrights-sec their brochures show what they are really about. however there is a lot [12:47] Techrights-sec of wishful and "magical" thinking going on among the general population [12:47] Techrights-sec including the general developer and FOSS developer population [12:50] schestowitz-TR it is hardly shocking that LF shilsl GitHub [12:50] schestowitz-TR they think alike [12:50] schestowitz-TR and speaking of "LIKE", they want "measurable" things [12:50] schestowitz-TR again, see how the brochures put it [12:50] schestowitz-TR and wjhat services are on sale [12:50] schestowitz-TR maybe they throw some "free" voucher in for spamnail spamtalk [12:50] schestowitz-TR coming soon: get booth, now limited offer of "gratus" tweet from Jono Bacon," [12:50] schestowitz-TR one "Let's Talk" and "To the Point" with spamnil, and one puff piece with Christine [12:50] schestowitz-TR of FOSS Farce [12:50] Techrights-sec LF is stocked with microsofters and other GPL -hostile entities [12:50] schestowitz-TR [09:25] Ericsson literally worked with terrorists. Now it has TWO seats in the board of the Linux Foundation. https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/ericsson-cannot-estimate-impact-of-doj-breach-notices.html | Source: IT Wire [12:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Ericsson cannot estimate impact of DOJ breach notices [12:52] activelow GPL itself can be dangerous to "free software", because it enables undesireable changes by those who can push most of those (GTK1-2-3-4, thats no progress for free software, that's an attack against it, in the name of GPL) [12:52] activelow GPL without _standards_ that is [12:53] activelow I remember 10 years ago Microsoft hit a record of most monthly commits to linux kernel (with their virtualizatin stuff iirc) [12:54] Techrights-sec yep andthere will be no repercussions for their actions, not even [12:54] Techrights-sec (or especcially)) economic contraints [12:54] schestowitz-TR activelow: just code [12:55] schestowitz-TR greg k-h complained about it [12:55] schestowitz-TR LOC ~= quality [12:55] schestowitz-TR number of commits can be a sign of many errors [12:55] Techrights-sec yes, I saw that, the HTTP site can be releagted to a mirror of the Gemini [12:55] Techrights-sec site but it ought to be retained if for no other reason than to drive [12:55] Techrights-sec attention to Gemini; However, it's their choice whaichever way. [12:57] schestowitz-TR Gemini is still growing [12:57] schestowitz-TR USENET not does some of the comms, but as some paut it, better to have discussions across capsules [12:57] schestowitz-TR an online https archive of the mailing lists (read-only) sort of defeats the purpose and spirit of the project [12:57] schestowitz-TR anyway. I am finding many gemini:// links these days, sometimes gopher too [12:57] schestowitz-TR some are lengthy and good use of time ● Apr 21 [13:00] Techrights-sec yes though the list would have helped [13:00] Techrights-sec that's a drawback to automation; there are a number of good sites which [13:00] Techrights-sec I /ought/ to check but since they are covered reasonably well by the automated [13:00] Techrights-sec feed agregator there is little incentive since I already have information [13:00] Techrights-sec overload as it is [13:01] schestowitz-TR moreover, the project is now "big enough" to grow on its own [13:01] schestowitz-TR with or without email to "talk about" Gemini [13:01] schestowitz-TR we need to talk less ABOUT Gemini [13:01] schestowitz-TR and instead USE and LEWVERAGE gemini [13:01] schestowitz-TR to make new and unique "content" [13:01] schestowitz-TR I added 2 or 3 GemLogs saying it this month after drew had moaning that Gemini talks about itself too much [13:01] schestowitz-TR in techrights we barely cover Gemini anymore [13:01] schestowitz-TR and the automated updates have worked OK for days [13:01] schestowitz-TR so I mostly forgot about those [13:01] schestowitz-TR information is a pyramid [13:01] schestowitz-TR if properly organised (i.e. notm BillBC) [13:01] schestowitz-TR then you choose the level you want [13:01] schestowitz-TR granularity [13:01] schestowitz-TR and if time permits you go deeper or further down the pyramic [13:01] schestowitz-TR in techrigghts we divide by topics [13:01] schestowitz-TR so it's easier to skip things you do not relate to [13:04] Techrights-sec yes [13:06] schestowitz-TR [12:52] GPL without _standards_ that is [13:06] schestowitz-TR like formal satndards? [13:06] schestowitz-TR you could argue that GPL overcomes some of these things [13:07] schestowitz-TR both GPL software and 'standard' can be bloated [13:07] schestowitz-TR like MPEG [13:26] activelow schestowitz-TR: motif widget toolkit is an example, which type of standard together with GPL protect software freedom [13:26] activelow in this case it is an IEEE standard, which guarantees stability and software freedom [13:27] activelow it is not possible to attack motif anymore, because it is guarded by both mentioned standards and GPL [13:28] activelow if the IEEE standard was dropped from motif, this permitted any changes to it in compliance with GPL license terms [13:28] activelow and this is exactly what happened to GTK2/3/4; it was attacked in compliance with GPL, it was GPL itself which killed GTK stability [13:29] activelow otherwise i don't know the details of MPEG and standardization, patent claims etc. [13:31] activelow and the irony with formerly proprietary motif widget toolkit which RMS objected to, nowadays motif is more "free" than FSF/GNU endorsed GTK/GNOME [13:31] schestowitz-TR You've long pointed out, correctly, lockin associated with bloat [13:31] schestowitz-TR which becomes a freedom issue [13:31] schestowitz-TR FSF and GTK/GNOME are GNU [13:32] schestowitz-TR or related to GNU [13:32] schestowitz-TR I don't think FSF specifically endorses or recommends GNOME [13:32] schestowitz-TR GIMP maybe [13:32] schestowitz-TR GIMP is GNU [13:32] schestowitz-TR not GNOME [13:32] schestowitz-TR and GTK is developed by ICBM mostly [13:32] activelow furthermore, i consider GPL copyleft too weak, GPL copyleft does not prevent "incorporation" into proprietary products (FSF is lying if they claim GPL copyleft did) [13:33] schestowitz-TR GPL is sued a lot in proprietary [13:33] schestowitz-TR like clown computing [13:33] schestowitz-TR then there's affero [13:33] schestowitz-TR most clown BS runs proprietary "webapps" [13:33] schestowitz-TR they use GPL for OS and stuff [13:33] schestowitz-TR then there's LGPL [13:33] activelow sued how? even without GPL copyleft violations, the GPL copyleft clause itself is too weak [13:34] activelow LGPL is even weaker copyleft [13:34] activelow yet ordinary GPL copyleft is too weak already (another suspicious FSF stance when they imply GPL copyleft was strong) [13:35] activelow if, IBM, as a major GPL copyright holder and/or author, if IBM chose _not_ to enforce GPL copyleft, then the entire copyleft claim is void [13:36] activelow because, i think, it is _only_ the copyright holder which can enforce copyleft [13:36] schestowitz-TR in court? [13:36] schestowitz-TR or gentleman's agreement/settlement? [13:36] schestowitz-TR sometimes contacting an author is enough [13:36] schestowitz-TR and then the code is released "back" [13:37] schestowitz-TR which I think is preferable [13:37] schestowitz-TR more consensual, no lawyers necessary [13:38] activelow btw. i do support GPL and copyleft, yet GPL (regardless of LGPL) is too weak and unspecific, concerning both undesirable and desirable copyleft [13:38] schestowitz-TR don't mind me asking, but... have you released some programs to the public? [13:39] activelow schestowitz-TR: yes, i released the most efficient and most secure symmetric block cipher [13:40] schestowitz-TR is it public somewhere? [13:40] schestowitz-TR I want to assess [13:40] activelow github [13:40] activelow although, since there wasn't any feedback about this, i didn't push any update anymore [13:40] schestowitz-TR ok, nobody is perfect ^_^ [13:40] activelow and, i do not work for zero income [13:41] activelow https://github.com/agg1/scram88 [13:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-GitHub - agg1/scram88: scram88 polymorphic scrambler matrix crypto stack [13:41] schestowitz-TR you can self-host [13:41] schestowitz-TR even on your own PC [13:41] schestowitz-TR with DNS set up righ [13:41] schestowitz-TR I need another machine [13:41] schestowitz-TR rekonq gives me blank pages in shithub [13:42] activelow for BaphometOS my connection is too slow: 2mbit uplink [13:42] activelow and i am not willing to outsource anywhere into clown where i do not have full control over the server [13:44] activelow furthermore, i fear, if i released BaphometOS, then GPL copyleft enforce did catch me, because i cannot publish without any ROI while others capitalize upon GPL [13:44] schestowitz-TR "lite" is the non-commercial? [13:45] activelow lite means i got another variant of this, nonetheless lite doesn't weaken the cryptographic strength at all [13:45] schestowitz-TR you are one month older than me [13:46] activelow and for studying puproses of non-primitive recurse LFSR the lite variant is more suitable [13:46] activelow meanwhile, i removed the entire dm-crypt API from kernel here, and implemented an even simpler variant [13:46] activelow which i won't publish either [13:47] schestowitz-TR the code could use more comments (just saying') [13:47] schestowitz-TR *sayin' [13:47] schestowitz-TR also, patents don't work as exclaimed there [13:47] schestowitz-TR maybe a misunderstanding [13:47] schestowitz-TR they're something you must apply for [13:47] activelow schestowitz-TR: i don't f**ing care [13:47] schestowitz-TR in this case, software/maths [13:48] schestowitz-TR the attorneys know how to cheat the corrupt EPO [13:48] schestowitz-TR to get patents on abstract things, even other people's work [13:48] activelow i don't think it is a patent issue anyway, it is an issue of "author's rights" and "berne convention" [13:48] schestowitz-TR anyway, it's GOOD that people still work on crypto [13:49] schestowitz-TR the "official" stuff is not trustworthy [13:49] activelow furthermore, i do disagree with RMS and "intellectual property", meaning, my reading of "intellectual property" is "author's rights" [13:49] schestowitz-TR BND along with six-eyes hunt down anyone who makes crypto not "approved" (e.g. weakened) by them [13:50] activelow lol, you know, i "downgraded" the most recent implementation to 32bit [13:50] schestowitz-TR I think calling them "rights" at all is a disservice to the concept of concrete rightrs [13:50] schestowitz-TR rights to food, water, due process... [13:50] activelow i mean, i am looking forward to their argument, why and how 256bit crypto is advertised, while i am totally happy with 32bit [13:50] schestowitz-TR 64bit being too hard to figure out in the processor sense? [13:50] schestowitz-TR doesn't matter how many bits [13:51] activelow the cipher strength cannot be easily estimated with amount of bits [13:51] schestowitz-TR if it doesn't work, it doesn't work [13:51] schestowitz-TR right [13:51] schestowitz-TR it's a cock-measuring content [13:51] schestowitz-TR *contest [13:51] activelow the key to understanding is: "known plaintext attacks" [13:51] activelow and my design is not prone to it [13:51] activelow so i can happily live with 32bits advertised [13:52] activelow furthermore, ECB is the best choice, in practice; off-topic, just saying, ECB isn't the problem [13:52] schestowitz-TR I agree that they measure the wrong thing [13:53] schestowitz-TR heh, ECB [13:53] schestowitz-TR European Central Bank... (Also) [13:53] activelow electronic codebook mode [13:53] activelow wikipedia is lying about it [13:53] schestowitz-TR how many "bits" was ENIGMA? [13:53] activelow don't know [13:54] activelow nonetheless, enigma was a brilliant piece of engineering [13:54] schestowitz-TR iirc, they modulated signals [13:54] schestowitz-TR and the way it was encoded/decoded was by mechanical instruments [13:54] schestowitz-TR before semiconductors [13:57] schestowitz-TR The patents that kill https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/ [13:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Corruption in Drug Patents: Take Away the Money - CounterPunch.org ● Apr 21 [14:00] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:01] activelow GPL is missing another clause, such as, _everyone_ (not copyright holder only) has the right to enforce copyleft of any GPL piece of software [14:01] activelow the solution of the FSF, was insisting on copyright assignment to FSF (GCC) [14:03] activelow yet even then, FSF only as copyright holder of GCC could enforce copyleft, not me [14:03] activelow meanwhile, GCC dropped copyright assignment to FSF, which isn't that relevant anymore anyway, because copyleft clause of GPL is too weak [14:08] activelow it may have been the intention of GPL, yet the copyleft clause should have read such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_" [14:08] schestowitz-TR who would you have enforced it against and why? [14:09] activelow ok, furthermore GPL does _not_ prohibit "incorporation" into proprietary/commercial products (microsoft WSL) [14:10] activelow not that i wanted to see the source code of Microsoft Windows, certainly not, yet i want _everyone_ to have the opportunity to see it, what Pentagon had for sale [14:10] activelow and, even if, such as GNOME, is hiding the truth in plain sight, even then it isn't recognized what is endorsed, spyware [14:12] activelow and my vision of FSF is, they continue lying about it (supposedly strong copyleft, invalid intellectual property, spying) [14:12] Techrights-sec It looks like about 40 of the acrhived files are bad. The first one [14:12] Techrights-sec may be tm-db-20220106.dump.gz and a few days in a row there are bad [14:12] Techrights-sec then again quite a few from there on out [14:12] Techrights-sec see /tmp/gunzip.log on the RPi [14:12] Techrights-sec and /tmp/gunzip.err [14:13] schestowitz-TR how many files do you have prior to jan 6th? I'm trying to understand when the problemn began as we might be able to associate that w [14:13] schestowitz-TR with some change to the site [14:13] schestowitz-TR last night I tried 2 dumps from 2021 and 2 from 2020 (TM) [14:28] Techrights-sec the above list is a check of the full set here [14:28] Techrights-sec both files include the list of corrupted gzip files but the .err one has the [14:28] Techrights-sec specific error message too [14:28] Techrights-sec If I were to guess I would say the gzip files are corrupted in-place [14:32] schestowitz-TR so it started around Insurrection Day? [14:32] schestowitz-TR The files from 2020 and 2021 that I tried were OK [14:32] schestowitz-TR 4 of them in total [14:33] schestowitz-TR testing 3 files from Dec 2021 [14:33] Techrights-sec yes those are the bad files I can make a diff showing the suspected good files [14:35] Techrights-sec The first corrupt file is from the anniversary of the insurrection but [14:35] Techrights-sec that is probably a coincidence. I would suspect something with LXC if [14:35] Techrights-sec I had to take a wild guess or the drive upon which the data is stored, but [14:35] Techrights-sec do not have the means to check the latter nor the knowledge to check the [14:35] Techrights-sec former. [14:40] schestowitz-TR the physical drive was changed around February [14:40] schestowitz-TR so the errors persisted after that [14:40] schestowitz-TR that's why it's useful to trace it back to dates [14:40] schestowitz-TR trying 5 more from Nov 2021 [14:40] schestowitz-TR they are all OK, too [14:40] schestowitz-TR so in total 12 files from 2011 that I tested uncompress OK [14:40] schestowitz-TR Jan 6th onwardd 4 nights in a row it failed [14:40] schestowitz-TR Maybe patching at HV? [14:40] schestowitz-TR so far I saw no such error in TM, but I could only check 2 dumps [14:40] schestowitz-TR it would be worth seeing if this affects just one VM [14:40] schestowitz-TR as they use a different OS version [14:44] schestowitz-TR activelow: fsf does not endorse gnome afaik [14:44] schestowitz-TR it does recommend gnu [14:44] schestowitz-TR and gnome is barely even doing justice to the g [14:44] schestowitz-TR in 2009 some a-holes tried to remove gnome from gnu [14:48] activelow FSF does promote GPL, and GPL without _standards_ applicable to GTK ruined gnome [14:49] activelow furthermore, FSF does endorse and promote distributions which ship with gnome [14:49] schestowitz-TR a distro can contain 2 thousand components [14:49] schestowitz-TR even more [14:49] schestowitz-TR if you count their repos [14:50] schestowitz-TR it doesn't mean fsf endorses all these components [14:50] schestowitz-TR btw [14:50] schestowitz-TR gtk can make other DEs [14:50] schestowitz-TR and it does [14:50] schestowitz-TR so gtk/gnome duality wasn't always this tight [14:50] schestowitz-TR ICBM made it so [14:50] activelow and, for example, if epiphany(gnome)/chromium/mozilla were expelled the FSF/GNU/Linux would loose almost their entire user base and many developers [14:51] activelow i consider GTK itself compromised, even when systemd/dbus are entirely removed (which is possible still) [14:52] activelow and again, FSF/GNU/Linux cannot ditch GTK entirely without loosing almost their entire userbase and most developers [14:52] activelow and strengthening GPL is impossible [14:53] activelow such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_" [14:53] Techrights-sec I can check TR's backups too but those were just for TM since you mentioned [14:53] Techrights-sec it most recently. [14:53] activelow and "GPL source code is prohibited from incorporation into all non-free software" [14:53] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec: [14:53] schestowitz-TR how far back did the TM tests go? I mean, maybe I duplicate effort here [14:53] schestowitz-TR each such backup is about 160,000 "posts" [14:53] schestowitz-TR in table drupal.node [14:53] schestowitz-TR which incidentally is easy to use to make a file dump to GemText files [14:53] schestowitz-TR it will be something like ADD ... or INSERT and then the HTML stuff for body and a field for title [14:53] schestowitz-TR so no need to even scrape any pages [14:54] schestowitz-TR activelow: who would you sue? [14:54] schestowitz-TR or rather, do you worry the authors (FSF, CLA) will deny ou access to code they get back? [14:54] activelow with regards to my individual interests? [14:55] activelow i would sue Deutsche Telekom, German employment agency, and hundreds of "human resource" offices [14:55] activelow unrelated to free software [14:55] schestowitz-TR they are too conencted to the state [14:55] schestowitz-TR you would not win [14:56] activelow damages due to violation of my rights accumulates to millions of cash already [14:56] schestowitz-TR DT is like pseudo-private [14:56] schestowitz-TR like BT here [14:56] schestowitz-TR asking state courts to hold the state accountable is hard [14:56] activelow add to this damages to public interest of hundreds of millions [14:57] activelow the latter being difficult to quantify, as the amount of jobs lost in east-germany, for example [14:59] schestowitz-TR they would need proof. But anyway, this is diverging away from the original topic. [14:59] schestowitz-TR which was GPL ● Apr 21 [15:01] activelow i got proof for this: bavarian officials threatening me with incarceration [15:02] Techrights-sec see /tmp/gunzip.all for the full list [15:02] Techrights-sec grep -v -F -f /tmp/gunzip.log /tmp/gunzip.all [15:02] Techrights-sec will show the good ones, with the except of odd names like tm-db-20220412-damaged.dump.gz [15:04] schestowitz-TR I don't think we changed anything that month, but maybe system updates were applied to HV (not [15:04] schestowitz-TR that I am aware) [15:04] Techrights-sec applied or needed [15:11] schestowitz-TR thinking 'aloud': [15:11] schestowitz-TR the issue started before and persisted after disk change [15:11] schestowitz-TR the "bad" file (gif) was apparently one of a kind, maybe perpetually a mystery [15:11] schestowitz-TR we have no potent evidence that the physical disk is to blame [15:11] schestowitz-TR we could, for a few nights, try another compression program [15:11] schestowitz-TR there are a few ones that compress better [15:11] schestowitz-TR but our scripts look for "gz" specifically [15:11] schestowitz-TR I have just checked and xz is installed on TR [15:11] schestowitz-TR one experiment can be, alter the script to compress with xz [15:11] schestowitz-TR after a week or so test all the backups [15:11] schestowitz-TR the syntax for xz is the same as .gz [15:12] schestowitz-TR this would: [15:12] schestowitz-TR 1) help us get better backups [15:12] schestowitz-TR 2) help us pin-point the issue [15:12] schestowitz-TR 3) leave us with scripts that offer several compression options [15:12] schestowitz-TR (some of these scripts are over 10 years old) [15:25] schestowitz-TR Just chatted with Rianne about this [15:25] schestowitz-TR and explained to her the situation [15:25] schestowitz-TR inc. OS upgrade [15:25] schestowitz-TR minutes ago I finished other links+combined [15:25] schestowitz-TR so I will focus on Daily Links today, videos and posts not a priority [15:25] schestowitz-TR I plan to check this evening's backup [15:25] schestowitz-TR With the sites doing 8/hits second and Gemini running OK I am not too worried [15:25] schestowitz-TR about focusing on new leaks [15:25] schestowitz-TR and IRC is budy regardless [15:25] schestowitz-TR *busy [15:25] schestowitz-TR not much trolling lately, which is better than budy and disruptive [15:25] schestowitz-TR *busy [15:25] schestowitz-TR the irc network has also been adopted by other projects, such as decloudflare [15:25] schestowitz-TR (not logged) [15:25] schestowitz-TR so there are parallel efforts in one place, with commonalities [15:25] Techrights-sec ack [15:25] Techrights-sec I wonder about automation. Verification of proper compression ouught to [15:25] Techrights-sec be possible but I don't like the idea of working around errors of unknown [15:25] Techrights-sec cause [15:25] Techrights-sec excellent that IRC is improving [15:25] Techrights-sec excellent. cloudflare is a bigger problem than most people who are even aware [15:25] Techrights-sec of cloudflare usually know [15:25] Techrights-sec and there are relatively few that are aware even of cloudflare [15:25] Techrights-sec any idea how hard it is to set up BigBlueButton on a RPi? [15:27] schestowitz-TR We set that up at work like 7 years ago [15:27] schestowitz-TR I was not involved in thgat project [15:27] schestowitz-TR I saw the link aboput Moodle and BBB [15:27] schestowitz-TR FSF used MNumble and BBB [15:27] schestowitz-TR as noted in the RMS talk, which also used outsourced IRC [15:27] Techrights-sec I hope it is easier now. [15:29] schestowitz-TR We used openfire a lot (jabber) [15:29] schestowitz-TR before the idiots like sarin and The Liar came [15:29] schestowitz-TR and decided that it wasn't "clown" enough [15:29] schestowitz-TR and maybe tougher to 'police' [15:29] schestowitz-TR the management brought the jabber server down at least once if not twice [15:29] schestowitz-TR based on false protexts [15:29] schestowitz-TR to thwart the possibility of stuff chating/uniting [15:29] schestowitz-TR *staff [15:31] Techrights-sec yes that's a main reason that "Slack" is pushed on workers, all communicatins [15:31] Techrights-sec even "private" ones are logged and available for perusal by management [15:31] Techrights-sec I figure "Slack" rode in on the name confusion with Slackware. Managers were [15:31] Techrights-sec recipients of targeted marketing for "Slack" and asked their technical staff [15:31] Techrights-sec what they though of "Slack". Thinking that the managers meand Slacware, [15:31] Techrights-sec the answer was "great". Or at least that's one scenario. [15:31] schestowitz-TR In tuxmachines there is atill a "Slack" category [15:31] schestowitz-TR but it's about the distro [15:32] Techrights-sec [15:32] Techrights-sec It was always about the distro until a few years ago when [15:32] Techrights-sec some garbage proprietary surveillanceware rode in over the name [15:32] Techrights-sec and no trademark dispute was made [15:33] schestowitz-TR it would be hard to win [15:33] schestowitz-TR 1) generic dictionary word [15:33] schestowitz-TR 2) not a distro [15:34] schestowitz-TR 3) I forgot.... never mind lack of registration, but there was another basis I had in mind, doesn't matter, this is just IRC [15:34] Techrights-sec Well the garbage proprietary surveillanceware did use a name based on [15:34] Techrights-sec it [15:34] Techrights-sec 2) it's a "technical [15:34] Techrights-sec " thing and thus confusion among managers. However, being able to monitor [15:34] Techrights-sec all communication via the surveillanceware was probably the main selling [15:34] Techrights-sec point [15:36] schestowitz-TR I think you 'downplay' this piece of malware [15:36] schestowitz-TR it tracks a lot more than conversation [15:36] schestowitz-TR and Microsoft rode the tails of it, turning Skype for Business into "productivity-measuring" malware (Team) [15:36] schestowitz-TR now trying to bundle this malware [15:36] schestowitz-TR with highly notorious practices that the pandemic helped to normalise [15:36] schestowitz-TR *Teams [15:38] Techrights-sec M$ tries to bundle its own malware with anything it can get away with [15:38] Techrights-sec The host may not survive the paracitism though. [15:38] Techrights-sec Most companies rarely survive partnerships with M$ for very long [15:38] schestowitz-TR watch out, Sam! ;-) [15:39] Techrights-sec yep [15:39] Techrights-sec I would like to be wrong but both his employment and his employer are not long [15:39] Techrights-sec for the world. He'd be wise to polish his resume, but there are so few [15:39] Techrights-sec workplaces to consider any more. [15:40] schestowitz-TR it looked like his name was "borrowed" for puff pieces disguised as articles [15:40] schestowitz-TR which made his RSS fedd intolerable to me [15:40] schestowitz-TR whereupon it was just dropped [15:40] schestowitz-TR too long to scoop up his real articles [15:40] schestowitz-TR the webspam outnumbered those ● Apr 21 [17:01] schestowitz-TR ota [17:01] schestowitz-TR new epo doc [17:01] schestowitz-TR COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Conti [17:01] schestowitz-TR nues to Climb http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/21/over-600-deaths/ [17:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Continues to Climb [17:22] schestowitz-TR draft ● Apr 21 [18:04] schestowitz-TR it is always important to know where one stands [18:04] schestowitz-TR even when it nois not convenient [18:04] schestowitz-TR self-deluding mindset is a ticking time bomb [18:04] schestowitz-TR being cynical about onself and about life is healthy [18:04] schestowitz-TR humour is a coping mechanism [18:04] schestowitz-TR (there is nothing funny about a plague though) [18:04] schestowitz-TR speaking of humour, i've made a yo dawg meme [18:04] schestowitz-TR let's see if it gets deleted ;-=) [18:04] schestowitz-TR I've added a draft about gemini, very short [18:04] Techrights-sec The "Yo Dawg" meme usually involves some kind of obvious reference to [18:04] Techrights-sec recursion [18:08] schestowitz-TR Yes, but I could not think of something in a someting in this context [18:08] schestowitz-TR my energy provider is the same. rianne watched part of the video I made yesterday. I also added 3 [18:08] schestowitz-TR more messages to my blog post afterward. [18:08] schestowitz-TR Charge more, do less. [18:08] schestowitz-TR Before the "successful bankruptcy" [18:08] schestowitz-TR I told him, [18:08] schestowitz-TR businesses come and go [18:08] schestowitz-TR and you woulg go faster if you treat clients like this [18:08] schestowitz-TR banks are the same [18:08] schestowitz-TR at this point they do very little [18:08] schestowitz-TR some4 excist only on paper or some aws 'account' [18:08] schestowitz-TR but still, I'd rather put money there than in fakecoints [18:08] schestowitz-TR or perishable items that lose value very fast [18:23] Techrights-sec ok [18:23] Techrights-sec ack [18:23] Techrights-sec you'll note that almost all the cryptocurrency aritlces for daily links [18:23] Techrights-sec fall under the Energy category, because they do nothig more than was [18:23] Techrights-sec electricity and emit fossil carbon [18:25] schestowitz-TR for a few years I was a bit sympathetic but abundantly hesitant to consider those myself [18:25] schestowitz-TR in recent years perception shifted not because of FUD [18:25] schestowitz-TR but because the cost of "minting" this shit (so-called 'mining') became rather [18:25] schestowitz-TR ludicrous [18:25] schestowitz-TR plus, too many out there, plus NFT-like BS [18:25] schestowitz-TR didn't live up to the promise, created many charalatans though [18:25] schestowitz-TR "bros"; [18:32] Techrights-sec I made the choice in 2009 not to participate in what was already then a [18:32] Techrights-sec massive waste of electricity; furthermore, there is a limited and small [18:32] Techrights-sec number of bitcoins *and* the transaction cost in time, money, and electricty [18:32] Techrights-sec is so high as it has no value as a currency even for large transactions [18:32] Techrights-sec there was no promise. [18:32] Techrights-sec some charlatans found satoshi's leftove notes in the trash at the end of [18:32] Techrights-sec his experiment and have been running with it ever since [18:32] Techrights-sec https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-wallet-b2045846.html [18:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Bitcoin from Satoshi-era wallet suddenly activates after 11 years | The Independent [18:32] schestowitz-TR craig wright epitomises the type [18:32] schestowitz-TR and even alex graveyley [18:33] schestowitz-TR people "worth" $200 MILLION and living with dad, having to rent a car and staying at the gf's home [18:38] schestowitz-TR IME, some people lack patience and instead of work work for many years they seek a get-rich-fast [18:38] schestowitz-TR method [18:38] schestowitz-TR my dad noticed the sake [18:38] schestowitz-TR so they reach out to high risk all all-risk stuff [18:38] schestowitz-TR like exchanging the little money they do earn into some dubious crap [18:38] schestowitz-TR on the net, a SHOCKING number of fakecoin sites exist and have entered gulag noise [18:38] schestowitz-TR I see them all the time [18:38] schestowitz-TR they seem to be preying on those [18:38] schestowitz-TR the only way to grow the value of the scheme is to add more people to it [18:38] Techrights-sec yes, seen that [18:38] Techrights-sec ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme [18:40] schestowitz-TR NFT seems like the sake old scam [18:40] schestowitz-TR with alluring graphics instead of fake (fictoon) coin being presented as some shiny golden coin with a B [18:40] schestowitz-TR with two lines going through it [18:40] Techrights-sec NFT is bizarre, one can see that there is no resale value [18:41] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-says-he-has-465-billion-for-twitter-takeover-bid/a-61547494 [18:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Elon Musk says he has $46.5 billion for Twitter takeover bid | News | DW | 21.04.2022 [18:46] schestowitz-TR NFt 4 LSD [18:46] Techrights-sec https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkp9wg/leaked-shill-price-list-shows-wild-world-of-crypto-promos [18:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vice.com | Leaked Shill Price List Shows Wild World of Crypto Promos [18:47] Techrights-sec Ha. I would like for both of them to lose. Twitter is overdue for closure [18:47] Techrights-sec and or bankruptcy [18:47] Techrights-sec one downside of a purchase would be that there would be an infusion of money [18:50] schestowitz-TR You know, I was thinking earlier today or yesterday [18:50] schestowitz-TR with offers like these, which might not even be legally binding (can be PR stunts) [18:50] schestowitz-TR there is a lot of potential for [18:50] schestowitz-TR 1) buy share in twitter [18:50] schestowitz-TR 2) offer to buy [18:50] schestowitz-TR 3) sell shares you've just games [18:50] schestowitz-TR knowing that [18:50] schestowitz-TR 4) you would walk away, claiming to have been inslted or somethin [18:50] schestowitz-TR where would SEC BE!? [18:50] schestowitz-TR This is a modus operandi we did see in the past [18:50] schestowitz-TR the mobsters can't be blind to it [18:50] schestowitz-TR he built empires of fake valuations, based on nothing but lies ● Apr 21 [19:02] Techrights-sec lies and, well, more lies [19:07] schestowitz-TR the fun thing about frauds and charlatans is, [19:07] schestowitz-TR they're usually on borrowed time [19:07] schestowitz-TR among the banksters, they are very "senior" (old) [19:07] schestowitz-TR so sooner or later you get to see their sandcastles collapsing [19:07] schestowitz-TR sometimes they even take their own life before they reach what's left of it [19:07] schestowitz-TR "well, he's dead" [19:07] schestowitz-TR so you go back, minding your own business [19:07] schestowitz-TR not relying on schemes, loans, and a chain of lies so complex (a web) [19:07] schestowitz-TR that you cannot keep up with it [19:07] schestowitz-TR and then you become king of freenode, a kingdom of nobody [19:08] Techrights-sec Not necessarily all on borrowed time, some stay half a step of the tar and [19:08] Techrights-sec feathers. Others simply pass the torch and another fraud picks up as the [19:08] Techrights-sec previous one gets run out of town on a rail. [19:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@446jbhab3kewc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:32] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:35] schestowitz-TR mind if we use this approach [19:35] schestowitz-TR after gz is made [19:35] schestowitz-TR run gunzip -t $file [19:35] schestowitz-TR I just have, for evening TM dump [19:35] schestowitz-TR it's OK [19:35] schestowitz-TR then, if there is output, create or add to file [19:35] schestowitz-TR this operation seems to be a lot faster than actually extracting [19:35] schestowitz-TR I don't think we have that in git, so I will write directly on the server [19:35] schestowitz-TR I am starting with a test line for the drupal dump alone [19:35] schestowitz-TR will add more if it works as expected [19:35] Techrights-sec ack [19:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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