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schestowitz> Hi RoyMay 21 01:12
schestowitz> May 21 01:12
schestowitz>  May 21 01:12
schestowitz> May 21 01:12
schestowitz> Thanks for the positive response. I will be a bit short as I have beenMay 21 01:12
schestowitz> working since 8 am today and have also some deadlines to catch andMay 21 01:12
schestowitz> pressure from studentss during this exam period.May 21 01:12
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schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> First, I am glad that we will do the book with you. As I said in myMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> previous emails, you have covered certain issues better than anyone elseMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> (esp. the propaganda aspect) and I promise to give you additionalMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> information that is important, and hopefully, Ingve will do the same.May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz>  May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> I am very much interested in getting your work in mainstream. It’s notMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> about popularity but worth status and impact. Please do not worry aboutMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> copyright and open access issues, the issue is not simply about gettingMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> some money if the books becomes successful but impact also – people willMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> get to know about things that others try to suppress. Also, you writeMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> much faster than me, so any information you give, you can re-write itMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> easily in a slightly different way.May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz>  May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> Things I am going to do this week:May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> I would like to invite Glyn Moody in the project and my understanding isMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> that he is actively looking to increase his income because real activistMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> work takes a lot of time. That’s why I need to organise this carefullyMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> and need to secure some good selling prospects for all authors and here,May 21 01:13
schestowitz> the writing style will come under discussion. I will make the contactMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> with him and if you can tell him a good word about the project, it willMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> be good. If this is not possible, no worries.May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> In the past, I asked Gerald, a French activist who did a lot of workMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> through APRIL but he has now given up. He told me that the whole archiveMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> of APRIL is available to me but I cannot do everything. So, I need toMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> aim genuinely at some good book contract in order to encourageMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> participants and completion of the project. I am going to tell Glyn,May 21 01:13
schestowitz> also. When I send him the email, I will let you know and if you give aMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> supportive follow up, it will be good.May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz>  May 21 01:13
schestowitz> May 21 01:13
schestowitz> I am going to compile a list of issues on democratic governance and theMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> patent system and you can give comments and suggestions about what weMay 21 01:13
schestowitz> can cover.May 21 01:14
schestowitz> May 21 01:14
schestowitz>  May 21 01:14
schestowitz> May 21 01:14
schestowitz> I will also  write few pages about an issue in order to try variousMay 21 01:14
schestowitz> writing styles, again for comments and discussions.May 21 01:14
schestowitz> May 21 01:14
schestowitz>  May 21 01:14
schestowitz> May 21 01:14
schestowitz> I will get back to you soon.May 21 01:14
schestowitz> You can use my new article in its original manuscript version that IMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> have uploaded on SSRN:May 21 01:15
schestowitz> https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3600384May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
schestowitz>  May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-papers.ssrn.com | The Impact of the European Patent System on SMEs and National States by Dimitris Xenos :: SSRNMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> As you can see, SSRN takes some days to approve it, but the file isMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> there and you can download it.May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
schestowitz>  May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
schestowitz> If you want to use the publisher’s version, you can take some partsMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> only. Copyright infringement is assessed in relation to ‘substantialMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> part’, so you can copy and paste passages as long as their overallMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> quantity is not ‘substantial’. For the original manuscript, you have myMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> permission and also the pictures I sent you with the statistical piesMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> come from the manuscript, as the published work places a square frameMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> around the pies which I do not like.May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
schestowitz>  May 21 01:15
schestowitz> May 21 01:15
schestowitz> Re: as to when you should publish this. If you can wait for the SSRNMay 21 01:15
schestowitz> approval, it will be good. Again, it’s up to you, the manuscript is inMay 21 01:16
schestowitz> the public domain now. If you require any information or explanation onMay 21 01:16
schestowitz> the article’s information, please let me know.May 21 01:16
schestowitzMaybe I will wait until a relevant subject comes up, whereupon I can instead cites and maybe 'borrow' those images for support. I think they'd be restrictive wrt to copyrights.May 21 01:16
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schestowitz>> It's the image resizer in mediawiki IIRCMay 21 01:22
schestowitz> If any interns with coding interests turn up, that might be one thing toMay 21 01:22
schestowitz> look at, unless it is already fixed in a newer version of the mediawiki.May 21 01:22
schestowitzI suppose attempting, offline at least, a migration to a newer version of the software would be worthwhile.May 21 01:22
schestowitzI very much doubt we have people with the right skills for it and the wiki db has passwords in it, so a lot of trust would also be needed.May 21 01:22
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schestowitz>> I suppose attempting, offline at least, a migration to a newer versionMay 21 06:53
schestowitz>> of the software would be worthwhile.May 21 06:53
schestowitz>>May 21 06:53
schestowitz>> I very much doubt we have people with the right skills for it and theMay 21 06:53
schestowitz>> wiki db has passwords in it, so a lot of trust would also be needed.May 21 06:53
schestowitz> I was thinking that such work would be done with a separate installationMay 21 06:53
schestowitz> and not on the live one.May 21 06:53
schestowitzWe would need similar data.May 21 06:53
schestowitz>> "M$ is spamming a lot of industries"May 21 07:06
schestowitzThey're more shameless about it than mostMay 21 07:06
schestowitzBTW, Dell seems to have delayed its Linux announcement.May 21 07:06
schestowitzI wonder if they did it because I gave away the 'secret'...May 21 07:06
schestowitzLunduke's site has become a sad shitfest of "Lunduke and friends" random chats, an utter joke with one-liner old jokes as "articles", and occasional clickbait. In the past he was reposting his older IDG material and also uploaded some episodes, but he's running out of material.May 21 07:12
schestowitzLeave the RSS feed in tact, as occasionally there's something of value in it (maybe 20% of the whole), but when he started this whole Lunduke Journal thing, having decided to keep off social control media (he broke that promise) it was at least OK for a while.May 21 07:12
schestowitzTo make matters worse, he's again bashing Android and Linux while shilling for Microsoft and Bill.May 21 07:12
schestowitzLunduke is an unpredictable person, hardly consistent, which is why I never regarded him to be an ally. Like the types who would stab RMS in the back if they see potential gain in it...May 21 07:12
schestowitz>>>> I suppose attempting, offline at least, a migration to a newer versionMay 21 07:26
schestowitz>>>> of the software would be worthwhile.May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>>>May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>>> I very much doubt we have people with the right skills for it and theMay 21 07:26
schestowitz>>>> wiki db has passwords in it, so a lot of trust would also be needed.May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>> I was thinking that such work would be done with a separate installationMay 21 07:26
schestowitz>>> and not on the live one.May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>May 21 07:26
schestowitz>> We would need similar data.May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>May 21 07:26
schestowitz>>May 21 07:27
schestowitz> Manually scraping 5 or 10 articles could be part of the task.May 21 07:27
schestowitzOne day we might simply move to static, yeah? ... I think you're in favourMay 21 07:27
schestowitzI envision the possibility of having an "old", shelved site, then something newer which places focus on the "next best thing" --- whatever that may be... we don't know yet until we can predict the future.May 21 07:27
schestowitzVideo is shit. I'd never go back to making videos. It's time-consuming, bw-intensive (hard when you don't host with surveillance companies) and so on..May 21 07:27
schestowitzMy general view is, the Internet is shit..May 21 07:27
schestowitzA lot of what's on the Net - esp. these days - is shit...May 21 07:27
schestowitzThat's actually unflattering to shit. Shit is at least useful for compost... some of the 'reporting' these days is a lot worse than shit and actually harmful.May 21 07:27
schestowitzLinux.com links again (today) to Black Duck crap...May 21 07:27
schestowitzOf course it participates in the Microsoft googlebombing this week...May 21 07:27
schestowitzI think we need a strategy and maybe need to identify more sites that are still good. We lose them faster than we gain any, e.g. TruthDig (it never came back)May 21 07:27
schestowitzLinux news was slow this week, since Monday... and I don't envision it getting better. TM moved to covering more programming stuff to fill the gap.May 21 07:27
schestowitzWe might need to organise better with FFII, which nowadays is mainly if not only Ben. He's on IRC dropping some tips in DMs.May 21 07:27
schestowitzThe intern for TM can help Techrights by means of posting programming stuff, which in turns makes its way into Daily Links in TR as well. I see that we're now adding about 0.5mb of compressed text per day. I can post even faster, but we need to be reluctant and careful when adding a new RSS feed to the Perl job. May 21 07:27
schestowitzI wish there was some 'magic filter' for "give me the better articles from RSS feed X and Y and Z"; sadly, it's all or nothing, so you can be left with cruft (HRW and others we once entertained). Attached is a script that's work in progress. It's assigned to mouse button number 5 among other shortcuts (for variations).May 21 07:27
schestowitzPS - some of the comments I received in social control media are so so shit that I cannot even post them in IRC and won't. The Internet k00ks were always bad; all lock-down and unemployment and it's 'downtown Beirut'.. maybe it's time to stop reading comments in MINDS as well... although Pleroma/Fediverse nowadays has its share of loons too... and you can see some of the stuff I'm willing to paste in from Twitter. They're totally May 21 07:27
schestowitzfull of "qanon", which is thriving there.May 21 07:27
schestowitzMind you, I was ALWAYS very strict about reading ALL comments. But at some point the comments get so appalling that you have to wonder, "why am I ever reading this mindless cretin? I should instead report this to the FBI..."May 21 07:27
schestowitz>>>> "M$ is spamming a lot of industries"May 21 07:28
schestowitz>> They're more shameless about it than mostMay 21 07:28
schestowitz>>May 21 07:28
schestowitz>> BTW, Dell seems to have delayed its Linux announcement.May 21 07:28
schestowitz>>May 21 07:29
schestowitz>> I wonder if they did it because I gave away the 'secret'...May 21 07:29
schestowitz>>May 21 07:29
schestowitz> It did seem a bit antagonistic to write about it in the way you did.May 21 07:29
schestowitz> M$ probably came down on them as a result, too.May 21 07:29
schestowitzIf what I wrote about it changed their mind, then they were all along too sensitive. I very strongly doubt decisions at a level this high would be swayed by some blog that merely says Dell profits from freedom-loving people.May 21 07:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18167911#e20fb5107d5a013829df65a8cd8cff9eMay 21 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Version Inflation and Paid-for Media Hype (Googlebombing the Word Linux) Won't Save WSL, the EEE Against GNU/Linux That Has Had Pathetic 'Success' http://techrights.org/2020/05/20/wsl-is-doomed/ #wsl #wsl3 #wsl3 #gnu #linuxMay 21 07:31
schestowitz"Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) I have a real Linux distro, thank you."May 21 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Version Inflation and Paid-for Media Hype (Googlebombing the Word Linux) Won’t Save WSL, the EEE Against GNU/Linux That Has Had Pathetic ‘Success’ | TechrightsMay 21 07:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18166981#ce186ea07d5b013829df65a8cd8cff9eMay 21 07:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: EA is releasing the Command & Conquer source code so you can have better mods http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137840#comment-25120May 21 07:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert Partly Liberated Under GPLv3 | Tux MachinesMay 21 07:33
schestowitz"May 21 07:33
schestowitzMay 21 07:33
schestowitzElectronic Arts will be releasing the TiberianDawn.dll and RedAlert.dll and their corresponding source code under the GPL version 3.0 license What? Whattt??? That EA, the EA we all know and hate, is doing such a thing? Under a libre licence, on top of everything?? Has hell frozen over or something? Come on, seriously... Where's the scam?May 21 07:33
schestowitz"May 21 07:33
schestowitzIndeed and I wonder who's idea inside the company it was... what next? Warcraft 1+2?May 21 07:33
schestowitz*WHOSEMay 21 07:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1263216463915220999May 21 07:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz link?May 21 07:38
schestowitzI did a rebuttal, don't send traffic to Bristows...May 21 07:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Gonzalo_VC23/status/1263150991433662464May 21 07:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Gonzalo_VC23: @schestowitz #WeToldThemSo!May 21 07:39
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schestowitz>>>> you can see some of the stuff I'm willing to paste in from Twitter.May 21 08:43
schestowitz>>>> They're totally full of "qanon", which is thriving there.May 21 08:43
schestowitz>>> That stuff is toxic on purpose.  IMO it is not an end in itself butMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>>> mainly exists to glom onto various topics and incidents and reduce theMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>>> discussion to farse so that the topic in general will get dismissed byMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>>> the public.May 21 08:43
schestowitz>> So it seems sometimes, but one has to provide proof of it, like leaksMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>> from PR agencies... there's that old conspiracy theory about the CIAMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>> being behind conspiracy theories to discredit some discussion topics...May 21 08:43
schestowitz>> but if you check for actual proof of this conspiracy theory, there'sMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>> none... no smoking gun you'll find. So it's circular in a sense. AMay 21 08:43
schestowitz>> conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.May 21 08:43
schestowitz> It grinds one down even if one tries to stay above it.  I recommend anMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> annual fast of at least three contiguous weeks.  Lent is as good a timeMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> as any.May 21 08:43
schestowitz> May 21 08:43
schestowitz> IMO one of the goals of the bullshit is just to overload people, notMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> necessarily push them one way or another.  That comes later once theyMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> can no longer keep up and/or can't discern fact from opinion.  Keep inMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> mind that overload is one of the "benefits" of moving to M$ products inMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> a large business with lots of internal politics.  It keeps all theMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> otherwise annoying workers in crisis mode and unable to be "difficult"May 21 08:43
schestowitz> about most work-related issues: Deploy M$ in house and within a year orMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> two management will have a distressed, inefficient but completelyMay 21 08:43
schestowitz> malleable work force.May 21 08:43
schestowitz> May 21 08:43
schestowitzx https://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-security-report-finds-library-induced-flaws-in-70-of-applications/May 21 12:48
schestowitz=May 21 12:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techrepublic.com | Open source security report finds library-induced flaws in 70% of applications - TechRepublicMay 21 12:48
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schestowitzhttps://lwn.net/Articles/821094/May 21 19:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lwn.net | GNOME resolves Rothschild patent suit [LWN.net]May 21 19:10
schestowitz"May 21 19:10
schestowitzAll good for OSS. The patent lives on, and can now only hurt closed source software. Win for all.May 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 15:49 UTC (Thu) by higuita (guest, #32245) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitzAll software patents are bad and stupid, even if one open source project isn't affected by itMay 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 17:00 UTC (Thu) by pkern (subscriber, #32883) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitzThat's not what the settlement said.May 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 17:02 UTC (Thu) by hannada (subscriber, #4633) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitzA real win that the settlement covers all OSI-approved licenses, and NOT just one Open Source project. The Pro-Bono legal team accomplished a stretch goal.May 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 17:27 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitzSounds like they attacked with bows and arrows, and suddenly realised that Gnome had a Gatling Gun.May 21 19:10
schestowitzCheers,May 21 19:10
schestowitzWolMay 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 17:35 UTC (Thu) by obrakmann (subscriber, #38108) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitz> There is no mention of what the foundation had to give — if anything — for this settlementMay 21 19:10
schestowitzAccording to Neil McGovern on Reddit, "not a penny": https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/gnseuh/patent_cas...May 21 19:10
schestowitzGNOME resolves Rothschild patent suitMay 21 19:10
schestowitzPosted May 21, 2020 18:01 UTC (Thu) by neilm (subscriber, #28422) [Link]May 21 19:10
schestowitzHighly unusually, the settlement is not subject to a non-disclosure agreement as I wanted to make sure that those protected by it could read it. If you are an upstream author, you can email me (via director@gnome.org please!) and receive a copy of the full agreement so you can study it yourself and see what we had to give grounds on. I can confirm that we have not paid RPI or Leigh Rothschild for this settlement.May 21 19:10
schestowitz"May 21 19:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Patent case against GNOME resolved : linuxMay 21 19:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gratifymenow/status/1263596996411002882May 21 23:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gratifymenow: @schestowitz CuntMay 21 23:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RonPaul4Constit/status/1263537297930072065May 21 23:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RonPaul4Constit: @schestowitz Better yet, build your own. It's not that hard.May 21 23:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DaughertyMJ/status/1263459440554119169May 21 23:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DaughertyMJ: I’m from Michigan. That Governor is a fascist liar. You’re too far away. https://t.co/bNbcXOlgolMay 21 23:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #rollingstone ☞ #Trump Is Treating #Michigan the Way He Treated Ukraine. Well Done, Senate Republicans https://t.co/7DM5byyqIFMay 21 23:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WillowWyse/status/1263459350141493249May 21 23:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WillowWyse: I predict that absent a successful legal challenge, the army, who appear to running the show, will do this in the UK https://t.co/RWMcCsujHfMay 21 23:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #eff #Privacy ☞ International Proposals for #Warrantless Location #Surveillance To Fight COVID-19 https://t.co/UfzvTdVq9XMay 21 23:30
schestowitz"I predict that absent a successful legal challenge, the army, who appear to running the show, will do this in the UK"May 21 23:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/prfnv/status/1263458677400522754May 21 23:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@prfnv: Fuck @Facebook https://t.co/McklZW5yvnMay 21 23:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #bloomberg #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook to Limit Offices to 25% Capacity, Require Masks at Work https://t.co/kefqULRzDMMay 21 23:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/reinhardX/status/1263421530693828609May 21 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@reinhardX: @schestowitz @TheAwkwardGOP and #Hydroxychloroquine has made #Trump an even more complete sociopathMay 21 23:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AmsyarLau/status/1263419785968119808May 21 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AmsyarLau: and this #racism disease has been spreading and infecting politicians since the beginning of #Politics https://t.co/3K4Rsk6TnrMay 21 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "While race is a reality, racism is a virus that continues to contaminate life in Malaysia and politics." https://t.co/ze0jJN8P6fMay 21 23:31
schestowitz"and this #racism disease has been spreading and infecting politicians since the beginning of #Politics"May 21 23:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2Fflandro/status/1263404082175369216May 21 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz GOTO #bloomberg for all Globalist Pushed Propaganda. https://t.co/wdwCbYRuHWMay 21 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.amazon.com | May 21 23:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18175508May 21 23:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@freemedia@framasphere.org: this is the president of **pour l'appropriation collective de l'informatique libre** (facil): https://framasphere.org/people/c8af67a012210137ba96525400366617 he is a member of the #fsf and the president of my favourite **free software organisation**. i think "free computing" is a very important concept-- it integrates free software (explicitly free software-- not "open source") along with free culture and privacyMay 21 23:56
schestowitz"May 21 23:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> framasphere.org | Framasphere* - Sign inMay 21 23:56
schestowitzthis is the president of pour l’appropriation collective de l’informatique libre (facil):May 21 23:56
schestowitzhttps://framasphere.org/people/c8af67a012210137ba96525400366617May 21 23:56
schestowitzhe is a member of the #fsf and the president of my favourite free software organisation. i think “free computing” is a very important concept-- it integrates free software (explicitly free software-- not “open source”) along with free culture and privacy-- this organisation has the potential to strike the right balance of concerns, without needlessly dismissing parallel efforts towards digital freedom. i am very happy that #May 21 23:56
schestowitzfacil exists, and i hope in the future there will be other chapters worldwide.May 21 23:56
schestowitz"May 21 23:56

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