●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 21, 2022 ●● ● Aug 21 [00:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:21] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [00:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 21 [02:54] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Aug 21 [05:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [05:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 21 [06:28] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 21 [07:10] schestowitz__[TR]
  • [07:10] schestowitz__[TR]
    A response to Martijns blog
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    [07:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pine64.org | A response to Martijns blog | PINE64 [07:10] schestowitz__[TR]

    To sum up this response post; Martijn has his reasons for leaving and we should all respect those. We are also thankful for all the work he, and the entire postmarketOS has, poured into the Linux smartphone space and the PinePhone in particular. That said, we dont want to leave the claim that we do not listen to our development community unanswered because it is unfair and demonstrably [07:10] schestowitz__[TR] false. We are not mindless marionettes unable to make up our own minds about what course to pursue either. As a project, PINE64 is not afraid of taking responsibility or admitting to a fault, and surely there are many mistakes that the management of the project has made in the past, but blind favoritism or unwillingness to listen to our community are not on the list.

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  • [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 I made 4 videos at the end [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 I think this workflow is more efficient [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 prepare topics, then record several in a row, then process in parallel [07:28] schestowitz-TR2 I'll try to stick to that [07:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 21 [08:03] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 21 [09:08] schestowitz-TR2 ---- [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 yesterday in IRC (also Daily Links, but no Ed comment) I took note of a BS article sufggesting clown in place of SSH, which is noted alongside SCP [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 at the start, though SCP is deprecated [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 days ago in gemini and www I saw some articles about neat SSH tricks [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 SSH is small and simple [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 that's not a bad thing [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 it's like saying a cipher is bad because only one developer made it [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 it's just math [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 ssh is also like that [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 simple and works [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 more layers of oibfuscation means more risk, and making auiting a lot harder [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 you could do disk encryption or comms encryption with one line of code, depending on lang [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 it's like JPEG compression or zip, the underlying principles are redicible to a function [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 or a set of them [09:21] Techrights-sec the risk seems to be the side effect of the goal : decommodification through [09:21] Techrights-sec gratuitous complexitty and proprietary interfaces [09:22] schestowitz-TR2 like citrix [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 my sister just told me on the phone how she cannot figure out how to fix some bugs [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 because of the complexity of some of the SDL code [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 c++ [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 she was recently promoted [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 I also have a cousin who works at citrix and she got swpats, as the company demands those [09:24] schestowitz-TR2 I didn't read them, but you can imagine they're all BS [09:34] Techrights-sec yep [09:34] Techrights-sec I think the mentality is facilitated by the media conflating attacks with [09:34] Techrights-sec breaches. They can then point to the logs and say, "lookit all those attacks", [09:34] Techrights-sec use our Proprietary Lock-in and avoid all that. [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 the media goes further and attributes some items in the logs to nations... "nation attacks..." [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 n korea, iran, china, russia [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 while cherry-picking for political goals [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 I very much doubt iran has a potent cybercrime unit [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 too budy kneeling on carpets and stuff... [09:35] Techrights-sec likely so, any SW patents at this point are BS and even most of the existing [09:35] Techrights-sec ones are neither unique nor innovative. [09:40] Techrights-sec ack [09:43] schestowitz-TR2 this morning when rianne was walking around here I told her tuxmachines was evolving to do a lot more than html [09:43] schestowitz-TR2 and she understands all that because she sees the stages after posting new nodes (incidentally, my sister checks out the new site) [09:43] schestowitz-TR2 rianne also hates the looks of new zdnet, but I think the new focus is on infinite scroll to fake "enagagement" [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 it says sjvn has a phd in history [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 like spamnil, he comes from non-tech background [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 but anyway, i don't know how mqtt can latch onto things so as to make notifications more useful [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 hence I did some search around gnome and kde the other day [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 the protocol for messages passing seems to be mostly a bot for other bots [09:46] Techrights-sec :) [09:46] Techrights-sec yes it looks like ZDNet is going for the mobilephone infinite scroll crap [09:46] Techrights-sec some custom python scripts are possible if the blocking of self-signed [09:46] Techrights-sec certificates can be circumvented. prior to that blocking, it was dead simple [09:46] Techrights-sec to script various monitors, triggers, or postings [09:46] Techrights-sec the protocol sends a message of n bytes to authorized, subscribed clients [09:46] schestowitz-TR2 infinite scoll: force-feeding to people articles they did NOT ask for in order to claim more "views" (of things that appear outside view) [09:46] schestowitz-TR2 the new cargo cult of "hit"-obsessed people [09:46] schestowitz-TR2 they could just stuff 100 images in one page and then claim huge increase in "hits" [09:47] Techrights-sec not quite the right application of the epithet "cargo cult" but otherwise [09:47] Techrights-sec spot on [09:47] Techrights-sec people spend 15 minutes and 50 clicks doing what used to take 2 minutes and 3 or 4 clicks, yet the a-holes now assert that the former is an improvement because [09:47] Techrights-sec of increased "engagement" [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 to borrow an analogy or use case, to read an 'article' you now scroll through 20 "tweets" and "give impression" to 100 comments (crap) along the way [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 good for measurable "enegagement" [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 but instead you could read a 10-paragraph article in newswaffle with an image on top [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 also, the accuracy of such an article is likely to be high [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 i did a video on the new service around newswaffle yesterday, just hours after the announcement [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 btw, I am getting code at unicode because I recognise how helpful it is at dodging images [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 if your system already has all the glyphs, then just invoke these [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 to render at the client side [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 32-bit (as in literally 32 zeros and ones) should be enough [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 and keep the server easier to figure out [09:51] schestowitz-TR2 new tuxmachines is usually just one page, one image at most [09:52] Techrights-sec ack [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 if you check TR git (git show ..) you can see further changes made to the tuxmachines IRC stuff [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 google.com seems to have already indexed and is now listing about a third of new TM [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 OK, same for images [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 it has like 70 images from the site in Google Images [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 that's a pretty fast adoption [09:55] schestowitz-TR2 for a new subdomain ● Aug 21 [10:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:21] Techrights-sec checking [10:21] schestowitz-TR2 a lot of that is a residue of older things, from the social control media era... before it ended [10:21] schestowitz-TR2 let me find you something from last night [10:21] Techrights-sec ok [10:22] schestowitz-TR2 [06:30] "...be careful not to fall into a trap of mistaking social media engagement from the actual community-seeking that you need." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220820_social_media [10:22] schestowitz-TR2 i see more and more people who say things like that -- not something I'd see years ago [10:22] schestowitz-TR2 there is growing recognition of several persistent and also newer issues [10:29] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:29] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:48] Techrights-sec ack [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 persistent and also newer issues [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 can you examine the git commit just made [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 and maybe push to live for quick testing? [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 i think it has fuctional advantage [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 and pses no issues to older browsers [10:51] Techrights-sec checking ● Aug 21 [11:04] Techrights-sec a problem is that the ::after part, as it stands, will afflict also the "Read On [11:04] Techrights-sec links [11:07] Techrights-sec ok [11:07] Techrights-sec another is that it duplicates a little of CamelCase.pm [11:07] Techrights-sec but the idea of improved attribution is important [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 i didn't regard this to be a problem, but maybe you dislike it [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 the idea is predictability and attribution by source name [11:09] schestowitz-TR2 yes, I was well aware of camelcase, also in sight of you pushing a commit an hour or less ago [11:09] Techrights-sec it would be advanatageous to minimize needing to maintain parallel data sets [11:09] Techrights-sec though CamelCase.pm is in a different repository :/ [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 one option is to write a scanner/parse fuction to produce a subset of camelcase [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 maybe there is also a way to factorise, with css class, some of the style [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 obv. we should avoid jquery/js [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 with them, it's possible to extract domain of url [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 but the domain does not always say much [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 camelcase has two portions of interest in each like [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 a simple sed can yield a css thing [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 but thousands of lines there are not relevant to TM [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 hence I chose some commonly linked sites and sropped there [11:14] schestowitz-TR2 did not even properly indent the thing, just wanted to test the impact [11:15] Techrights-sec I agree, no js, [11:15] Techrights-sec There are over 3800 hosts / domains listed in CamelCase.pm atm [11:15] Techrights-sec even a subset would make the CSS file monsterously large, all for just one rule [11:15] Techrights-sec extra per post. So I would think that something in the script would work.. [11:15] Techrights-sec The "Read On" link is easy to identify and thus modify from within the [11:15] Techrights-sec tm-add- script [11:17] schestowitz-TR2 that would then extend to gemini and other (future) protocols [11:17] schestowitz-TR2 as in, check tld, compare to camelcase, if match found, append [11:18] Techrights-sec yes, I think that would be feasible to use in Gemini too [11:18] Techrights-sec For the XHTML documents, would adding a title attribute to the ReadOn link [11:18] Techrights-sec be good? That will be visible on mouseover. Or should there be something [11:18] Techrights-sec in the main text? [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 good point, if you already do O(n) pass on each URL (of this class, or many any class in a list of links too) [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 then you could append title="" as well [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 from a usability POV, hovering should not repeat the anchoir text [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 and if the domain is appended [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 and status bar typically (by default) shows target url [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 when what's left for title to say? [11:21] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:21] Techrights-sec [11:21] Techrights-sec right [11:21] Techrights-sec The name of the site in plain language would be possible, with the [11:21] Techrights-sec lookup module. [11:23] schestowitz-TR2 so you want title to contain site name [11:23] schestowitz-TR2 (of note: sometimes in sections like Security and such we have URLs to more political sites, like those in camelcase) [11:23] Techrights-sec Yes, so this one, [11:23] Techrights-sec http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/What_Is_a_Login_Shell_in_Linux.shtml [11:23] Techrights-sec would have title="Make Use Of" in the "Read On" link [11:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines What Is a Login Shell in Linux? [11:25] schestowitz__[TR] https://jsfiddle.net/z42r2vv0/2/ [11:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jsfiddle.net | Edit fiddle - JSFiddle - Code Playground [11:26] schestowitz-TR2 maybe "Read the original in [site name]"? [11:31] Techrights-sec that sounds good and can be added, but now the question keeping [11:31] Techrights-sec the module up to date arises [11:31] Techrights-sec It'd be nice to have it part of the work flow but not sure how to do it [11:31] Techrights-sec 1) easily, 2) reliably, 3) safely [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 maybe "Read the original in [site name]"? [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 https://jsfiddle.net/z42r2vv0/2/ [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 I'm working on CSS to make title display on hover [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 just pushed cutom title [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 it takes the title and presents it on hover, to the right hand side [11:46] schestowitz-TR2 with OK contrast, I hope [11:46] Techrights-sec it's not in the CSS but the XHTML itself, [11:46] Techrights-sec ... [11:55] Techrights-sec the :hover is redundant since the browsers show the title in a small box near [11:55] Techrights-sec the mouse cursor on hover anyway [11:56] schestowitz-TR2 right, it can just be there all the time [11:56] schestowitz-TR2 I think only the "previous" and "next" text contain title at the moment [11:58] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Aug 21 [12:28] schestowitz-TR2 earlier in the kitchen I realised I had missed an opportunity to use camlcase to convert domains into site names in the url.sh script [12:28] schestowitz-TR2 I've just added that [12:28] schestowitz-TR2 it'll improve irc, showing.e.g. "uni Toronto" instead of utcc [12:28] schestowitz-TR2 the change required was about 2 lines long, testing now, will push shortly ● Aug 21 [13:01] Techrights-sec there are about 1600 unique host names from the links in tm-new's document root [13:01] Techrights-sec checking and adding to CamelCase.pm if needed, but a proper workflow will be [13:01] Techrights-sec needed for daily updates [13:01] schestowitz-TR2 a lot if not all links in TM get across to Techrights eventually [13:01] schestowitz-TR2 so if they're covered in TR, then TM also [13:02] Techrights-sec it turns out there is not much overlap just over 1000 new hosts from TM [13:58] schestowitz-TR2 "The number of people affected by hunger globally rose to as many as 828 million in 2021, an increase of about 46 million since 2020 and 150 million since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic (1), according to a United Nations report" https://www.who.int/news/item/06-07-2022-un-report--global-hunger-numbers-rose-to-as-many-as-828-million-in-2021 [13:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.who.int | UN Report: Global hunger numbers rose to as many as 828 million in 2021 ● Aug 21 [14:00] Techrights-sec exceeding the carrying capacity even more ... [14:00] Techrights-sec https://www.overshootday.org/ [14:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.overshootday.org | Earth Overshoot Day 2022 home - #MoveTheDate [14:00] Techrights-sec https://www.footprintnetwork.org/our-work/earth-overshoot-day/ [14:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.footprintnetwork.org | Earth Overshoot Day - Global Footprint Network [14:00] schestowitz-TR2 #thoughtsAndPrayers [14:00] schestowitz-TR2 + 1000 likes +10 shares [14:01] schestowitz-TR2 hunger solved [14:01] Techrights-sec https://www.france24.com/en/environment/20220728-earth-overshoot-day-comes-earlier-every-year [14:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.france24.com | EarthOvershoot Daycomes earlier every year [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 in nature, overpopulation gets balanced by predators [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 with humans, the predator is other humans [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 i.e. war [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 (or starvation due to too much competition over edible resources) [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 past a certain point, even war cannot rebalance nutritional quotient [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 that's where culling gets done [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 to help some survive [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 culling can be done within a tribe [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 not universal [14:05] Techrights-sec yes and there is a predator-prey boom-crash cycle; humans have it too except [14:05] Techrights-sec that they are their own worst enemy; this time there is 1) only a single global [14:05] Techrights-sec civilization 2) we've pulled up the ladder [14:05] Techrights-sec so when this one crashes, there will be no return [14:05] Techrights-sec anyway, looking at the matter of title="" there in TM, there seems to be no [14:05] Techrights-sec practical way to accomplish it; technically it is possible but it would [14:05] Techrights-sec be problematic all the way around to keep such a list up to date [14:05] Techrights-sec even if it were integrated into the suite of scripts [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 thanks for at least looking into it [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 I can implement this at my end [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 using url.sh [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 it won't always add a title, just sometimes [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 is that OK with you? [14:10] schestowitz-TR2 also, can you integrate the latest commit? [14:20] Techrights-sec sounds fine [14:20] Techrights-sec checking the commit [14:20] Techrights-sec the new CSS file is in place now [14:28] schestowitz-TR2 can you please deploy again to the site? [14:28] schestowitz-TR2 I think I left out a crucial bit [14:28] schestowitz-TR2 just testing before I spend time implementing the title thing at the data entry level ● Aug 21 [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 one of us, maybe me, "locked" ytalk, I guess [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 ctrl+s/q helps me resume it, I think [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 can you deploy the latest push, minute old? [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 that should do the trick, then I'll do url.sh [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 you can see the latest page in the site for example of what the button looks like [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 the GPD Micro PC [15:03] Techrights-sec probably [15:03] Techrights-sec ok [15:06] schestowitz-TR2 url.sh looks at cmelcase for most probable match, adds that as title="" [15:06] schestowitz-TR2 the css then does the rest [15:06] schestowitz-TR2 rianne and marius do not have camelcases on their PCs, so for now I can send her a copy [15:07] Techrights-sec if it is done it is more efficient to do centrally rather than on individual [15:07] Techrights-sec machines [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 yes, but then the addition of title="" would have to be done by tm-extract... [15:08] Techrights-sec that would be the most efficient [15:34] Techrights-sec that would be the most efficient [15:34] Techrights-sec su -c 'cd /var/www/tuxmachines.org/; git pull origin master' -s /bin/sh git [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 I will fix the ugly shadow around images now [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 experimenting in LibreWolf on the dry [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 this image style (css) must hgave been around for 8 years [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 I will add hover effect, too [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 excellent, thanks for this tip [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 you can see the new image layout in the GPD page [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 I will now changew my html layout to just use proper css [15:37] schestowitz-TR2 not the lazy hack we have used since 2014 [15:38] Techrights-sec in your Git clone, [15:38] Techrights-sec cp .git/hooks/pre-commit.sample .git/hooks/pre-commit [15:38] Techrights-sec please set up checking for trailing whitespace etc [15:38] schestowitz-TR2 done [15:51] schestowitz__[TR] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Videos_Shows_This_Week_in_Linux_DistroTube_and_GNU_World_Order.shtml [15:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, DistroTube, and GNU World Order [15:51] schestowitz__[TR] the image layout thing works better now, more tidy and organised, less harsh on the eye [15:52] schestowitz__[TR] I assume you want to do the camelcase thing for readOn button inside tm-extract? ● Aug 21 [16:05] Techrights-sec that would be the place to do it, but the question is how to do the upkeep [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 funny story: I 'borrowed' the code from the css of the old site [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 I had put it there around 2014 [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 it had two rules, for muktware and themukt [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 back then spamnil was already starting to change between domains (5 in total so far), thinking the issue was the domain and not the material getting worse [16:08] Techrights-sec ack [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 tfir is the fiffth domain for the same site [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 fifth culumnist si what he became [16:08] schestowitz-TR2 the list of domains no longer changes a lot, so maybe a local current copy on tm would be the reference [16:09] schestowitz-TR2 and can be manually updated about once a year [16:09] schestowitz-TR2 if at all ● Aug 21 [17:18] Techrights-sec they seem to teach js instead [17:18] Techrights-sec js provides more vendor lock-in [17:18] Techrights-sec keeping it simple and sticking strictly to standards allows competition ● Aug 21 [18:56] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [18:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Aug 21 [19:00] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 netsurf deals very well with the latest changes [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 it does nto do "before" and "after" or rounded corners or shadows [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 but the visual fllbacks are good [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 not that we need to optimise for a browser so few people use [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 I notice that in netsurf the bottom "menu" shows up vertically, one item per line [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 unlike the top "menu" [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 not sure why [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 also, in the svg it gets the colour palette wrong [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 maybe they should teach kids in college, in html/www classes [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 make it work such that it shows ok in this browser, netsurd [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 otherwise you get an f [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 otherwise they teach them to optimise for bloatware [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 and that further contributes to the issue, inc. monoculture [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 rianne's first time in eu is 10 years some time in ~3 weeks from now [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 there's no place in the world that is truly stable atm [19:17] schestowitz-TR2 factors like war, climate, immigration, and poverty [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 norway is one hop away from putin [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, norway is in nato [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 a friend of mine from oslo was deployed to kosovo [19:18] Techrights-sec ack [19:18] Techrights-sec they seem to teach js instead [19:18] Techrights-sec js provides more vendor lock-in [19:18] Techrights-sec keeping it simple and sticking strictly to standards allows competition [19:45] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 21 [20:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mvbitbkzkjyau.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Aug 21 [21:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:15] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:59] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 21 [22:02] schestowitz-TR2 the find program in busybox is not compatible with gnu, so as I work to make git tm (prototype) visible in gemini I need to make major xhcnages [22:02] schestowitz-TR2 I don't want to change the find program for fear it might break something we built already [22:07] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:34] schestowitz-TR2 ok, done, gemini.tuxmachines.org/git [22:34] schestowitz-TR2 for now just latest version of each file [22:35] schestowitz-TR2 retreieve every 30 mins, subject to latest pull [22:48] schestowitz-TR2 gemini.tuxmachines.org/git/all_changes/ ● Aug 21 [23:39] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:40] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell