●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 ●● ● Sep 21 [00:14] *_Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:16] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-k7n.jpm.ql99lf.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 21 [01:12] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:33] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:57] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@7ufimqcfaw9cu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 21 [02:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 21 [03:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) ● Sep 21 [04:51] schestowitz-TR after the reboot TR IPFS machine does not have limits set right [04:51] schestowitz-TR god knows what we did to make the cron job run correwctly [04:51] schestowitz-TR do you remember? [04:51] schestowitz-TR this means today's hashes are not yet available ● Sep 21 [05:19] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@f5ej35izduy64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 21 [06:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [06:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:15] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [06:24] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@f5ej35izduy64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:48] Techrights-sec I am not familiar with the IPFS set up in any way. :/ [06:57] schestowitz-TR still working to make ipfs work again [06:57] schestowitz-TR I can run it manually again [06:57] schestowitz-TR and then you can pick the output file [06:57] schestowitz-TR running manually [06:57] schestowitz-TR ok, see if the output file is OK now ● Sep 21 [07:01] *techrightsalpine4 (~techrightsalpine4@2y2jdjjk6mrgn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:03] Techrights-sec Ok [07:03] Techrights-sec checking [07:05] Techrights-sec Seems ok [07:06] schestowitz-TR thanks, after you get the file I will return to trying to get the cron job running [07:06] schestowitz-TR I didn't take notes of how it had been solved last time [07:06] schestowitz-TR it's about the cron being able to set ulimit for ENV [07:06] schestowitz-TR ok, I will carry on trying [07:06] schestowitz-TR and taking notes this time [07:06] schestowitz-TR as we lose that after a reboot [07:20] schestowitz-TR we've moved a lot of the irc stuff to techpol so that politics is in another channel [07:20] schestowitz-TR so far, so good, i think [07:20] schestowitz-TR I also did implement some bot changes to that effect [07:57] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [07:57] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Sep 21 [08:00] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:01] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) ● Sep 21 [09:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[09:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:58] Techrights-sec iirc hv is still in need of a reboot ● Sep 21 [10:32] schestowitz-TR this is truly time-consuming (almost all morning so far) [10:32] schestowitz-TR but I learn from trial and error how ulimit works in alpine [10:32] Techrights-sec tuning is needed so that it can resume properly automatically on its own after [10:32] Techrights-sec any reboot, so this is a good chance to fix and annotate [10:32] schestowitz-TR exactly [10:36] schestowitz-TR the short story is, [10:36] schestowitz-TR there is a sort of hierarchy of limits [10:36] schestowitz-TR but the error message don't help you [10:36] schestowitz-TR root [10:36] schestowitz-TR userspace [10:36] schestowitz-TR script [10:36] schestowitz-TR cron [10:50] Techrights-sec cron will work across reboots, but must be added by hand after a new installation [10:58] Techrights-sec There is now an open-rc service for the primitive IDS via tmux. [10:58] Techrights-sec So that should come back up when the system restarts. [10:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:58] schestowitz-TR thanks, I'm still a little frustrated by ulimit [10:58] schestowitz-TR but am feeling close now [10:59] schestowitz-TR last time I did not take noted of what I had done ● Sep 21 [11:03] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:05] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:08] Techrights-sec I cannot recall much of anything regarding ulimit other than that something [11:08] Techrights-sec was looked up. :/ [11:08] Techrights-sec Busybox NTPd now enabled. The clock should get back in sync soon. ● Sep 21 [12:31] schestowitz-TR I got stuck [12:31] schestowitz-TR could use your help [12:31] schestowitz-TR no matter what I try, in scripts or in cron I cannot set Sn and Hn in ulimit to anything higher than 8K [12:31] schestowitz-TR the script from cron still writes to /tmp/foo [12:31] schestowitz-TR I worked on this on and off since around 5am [12:31] schestowitz-TR so I feel insanely unproductive [12:32] Techrights-sec checking [12:32] Techrights-sec Do you have notes from security.limits.conf ? [12:32] Techrights-sec A package is required for that, IIRC it is installed. [12:32] Techrights-sec IIRC those, too, require a reboot to take effect. Thereafter limits.conf [12:32] Techrights-sec can be used. [12:33] schestowitz-TR I reinstalled the 3 packages you had added before [12:33] schestowitz-TR not sure if that altered anything major [12:33] schestowitz-TR update-index.sh near the top shows many things that were attempted [12:34] schestowitz-TR on home/xxx/ [12:34] schestowitz-TR it's called from crontab [12:34] Techrights-sec Which machine / path for update-index.sh ? [12:44] Techrights-sec IIRC it was the cron part which had the problem with ulimit [12:46] schestowitz-TR yes, I cannot set ulimit -Sn and -Hn to anything higher than 4096 [12:46] schestowitz-TR no matter what I try [12:46] schestowitz-TR so maybe this limitation is hard-coded somewhere [12:59] Techrights-sec $ ulimit -a | grep files [12:59] Techrights-sec open files (-n) 16384 [12:59] Techrights-sec So it must be something with cron [12:59] Techrights-sec Can you try the cron again now? ● Sep 21 [13:06] schestowitz-TR thanks, will try now [13:06] schestowitz-TR haha!!! [13:06] schestowitz-TR aha [13:06] schestowitz-TR rather [13:06] schestowitz-TR seems to have worked [13:06] schestowitz-TR let's see if it completes the whole job from the cron job :-) [13:19] schestowitz-TR made by day, so far.. [13:19] schestowitz-TR the page shows up ok now [13:19] schestowitz-TR i'll clean up a few things and get rest [13:19] schestowitz-TR thanks for solving it so quickly [13:22] Techrights-sec (ulimit in /etc/init.d/crond as a possible kludge) [13:22] Techrights-sec :) ● Sep 21 [14:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 21 [15:11] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:20] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-gj4.hf0.k9nair.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:27] Techrights-sec np [15:27] Techrights-sec Can we schedule a reboot of hv soon, in part to verify the automation? [15:28] schestowitz-TR one issue her, the irc network [15:28] Techrights-sec ack ● Sep 21 [16:48] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:54] Techrights-sec Can TR or TM receive donations via GNU Taler yet? [16:54] Techrights-sec https://taler.net/en/features.html [16:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-taler.net | GNU Taler [16:57] schestowitz-TR I have not thought about this for a whole [16:57] schestowitz-TR a) i think taler is connected to gnunet but not sure [16:57] schestowitz-TR gnunet is not yet condieered stable [16:57] schestowitz-TR b) our scarcity atm is time rather than funds [16:57] schestowitz-TR c) we had a hailirious incident yesterday and my colleagues were lying to clients [16:57] schestowitz-TR which I was very unhappy about [16:57] schestowitz-TR I don't wish to publicly share the details, but I don't facepalm anymore [16:57] schestowitz-TR that's how bad the company became [16:57] schestowitz-TR re (b) thanks for helping, I was getting rather miserable pouring out a TON of time in vain [16:57] schestowitz-TR (the ulimit issue/enigma) [16:57] schestowitz-TR I am racing through my ress eeds now to make time for articles/videos ● Sep 21 [17:30] schestowitz-TR --- [17:30] schestowitz-TR there are still some junk 'articles' (parrots) about rust and linux [17:30] schestowitz-TR some cite sjvn, an lf (via zdnet) operative [17:31] schestowitz-TR it's too late to turn this around, unless someone forked the kernel -- an infeasible task [17:31] schestowitz-TR they kepyt saying we need to attract more newbs to kernel dev [17:31] schestowitz-TR I don't see how adding a SECND language achieves this [17:59] Techrights-sec np [17:59] Techrights-sec Adding a second language ossifies the project. Instead of one group of [17:59] Techrights-sec developers of varying skills and experience, you end up with at least four: [17:59] Techrights-sec Those good in C but not Rust, those good in Rust but not C, those good in C [17:59] Techrights-sec and familiar with Rust, those good in Rust and familiar with C. You generally [17:59] Techrights-sec have to be good at a language to spot subtle mistakes in design or implementation so few even have the opportunity for gaining a good overview. Furthermore [17:59] Techrights-sec huge questions surround Rust maintenance, govenernance, and control. [17:59] Techrights-sec LT /could/ fork the kernel himself but I think they have his balls in a vice and [17:59] Techrights-sec so he won't. He still controls the trademark, too. He could take that with [17:59] Techrights-sec and use it for the fork. There is enough corporate control over what would [17:59] Techrights-sec be the old kernel, that it would live on in more or less its current form [17:59] Techrights-sec long enough for a smooth transition. [17:59] Techrights-sec Or so I would guess. ● Sep 21 [18:00] schestowitz-TR maybe linus thought about this already, but not aloud [18:00] schestowitz-TR maybe you should email him these thoughts [18:01] Techrights-sec I dont know him and vice versa. Without being able to offer any technical work [18:01] Techrights-sec I think there would be very little point him getting a mail from someone he [18:01] Techrights-sec does not know. [18:04] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:29] schestowitz-TR i wonder the professionalk background of canonical/ubuntu product managers3~ [18:29] schestowitz-TR at one point thy were hiring/advertising with wsl crap [18:29] schestowitz-TR draft [18:29] schestowitz-TR maybe oliver came from micosoft [18:29] schestowitz-TR i did not check [18:29] schestowitz-TR screenshot just added [18:30] schestowitz-TR the name of the workere is generic [18:30] schestowitz-TR I think I looked him up in the past [18:30] schestowitz-TR there is no linmk to a unique id/username [18:30] Techrights-sec reading [18:30] Techrights-sec It's likely, but microsofters tend to try to cover their tracks a little [18:30] Techrights-sec these days. [18:30] Techrights-sec He's connected with a lot of M$ WSL training and articles/ [18:32] schestowitz-TR can you give some URLs? [18:32] schestowitz-TR that can help further [18:32] schestowitz-TR I still work on the text a bit [18:32] schestowitz-TR to cover more points, concisely [18:32] Techrights-sec https://nitter.it/ubuntu/status/1493918498992668677 [18:32] Techrights-sec https://ubuntu.com/blog/author/local-optimum [18:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Ubuntu (@ubuntu): "Leverage the power of an #Ubuntu development environment on #Windows using Windows Subsystem for Linux (#WSL). Join Kyle Harper (Dell) Oliver Smith and Jean-Baptiste Lallement (Canonical) on a tour of Ubuntu on WSL. 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